The History of Pakistan after Partition and the Creation of Imran Khan - Muzamil Shah -
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Anchor, Journalist and Thinker, Syed Muzammil Shah, comes back o the podcast for a detailed overview of PTI and Imran Khan's politics; we go into the history of Pakistan, comparing it with India, to see where they went right, and where we went wrong, and what can both countries learn from each other.
• The History of Pakista...
Is Imran Khan Anti-Establishment?
Why Pakistan struggled after 1947?
Does Pakistan even want good relations with India?
Find out this and more on this week's episode of The Pakistan Experience.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
01:11 Muzammil joining Bol and Imran Khan's narrative building
13:50 Establishment’s mistakes and loss of power
23:57 Supporting PDM vs Supporting PTI
28:47 PDM’s operation against PTI and Anti-Establishment Politics
37:41 Imran Khan’s health and Democracy
44:50 How Pakistan began
54:00 Military’s role, separate electorates, Pakistan’s relationship with Religion
1:04:04 US Aid & Ayub Khan, Musharaf’s fake secularism, and the 1965 war
1:13:42 Relations with our neighbors and India and Abhinandan
1:20:32 The COAS position, Pakistan’s declining geopolitical status and our inability to compete economically
1:28:35 Moral stances, conflicts of interest and things India has done right
1:39:53 Pakistan’s identity crisis a real issue?, are economic issues the root of all problems
1:49:09 The TTP and the Establishment
1:58:50 18th amendment, a step back in 2018 and the suffering of Pakistan’s politicians, and university politics
2:08:40 Urdu as a national language and the Pakistani identity and cricket with India, the dream of an open border, secularism and identity politics
2:24:35 IK’s stance on Covid and his savior complex
2:40:56 Summarizing what we need to learn
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Here's the history of Pakistan 1947 we cannot live with hindus 1953 we cannot live with ahmedis 1971 we cannot live with Bengalis 1980s we cannot live with shia 1990s we cannot live with muhajirs 2000s we cannot live with pashtoons 2020s labbek labbek labbek sabke sar tan se juda
@sonukumarchoubey4510
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂👌
@asmrahman4775
Жыл бұрын
Well said about Pakistani Army,Elites and Bureaucrats.
@globalcitizen1856
Жыл бұрын
The fight for an Islamic caliphate started in 8th century by Md.Qasim. Only the name was decided in 1947.
@pax10report
Жыл бұрын
so true .. what a shame for a country ... 71 migrated bihari population dosent have an ID(nationality) OF THE COUNTRY ,TILL TODAY ..what a shame
@KanishQQuotes
Жыл бұрын
@@globalcitizen1856 hejaz bin yusuf burned mecca and took the black stone with him. He sent his nephew Qasim after family of prophet
Thank you,Hindu for accepting a every Religion,ethics,Culture.Long live India.From Christian community Of Northeast India
@LUCIFERSTAR17
3 ай бұрын
Brother, Are there any major development projects going on in North-East India under current government? I want to know
@swati2899
2 ай бұрын
@@LUCIFERSTAR17yes rapid infrastructure development in North east states under this government . Recently sikkim got its first railway station . Arunachal pradesh got it's first airport under this government. Border areas of North east states are getting connectivity with other part of india under this government
@lalzuimawiahmar513
2 ай бұрын
@@LUCIFERSTAR17 Still developed than Pakistan and Bangladesh
@youtubersdub4339
Ай бұрын
I am hindu and I love our Christian brothers❤❤❤❤
@nitinacharya8375
Ай бұрын
@@LUCIFERSTAR17 Like Pakistan where the Army and Establishment are dominant and have grabbed power without any legitimacy...In India, the power was grabbed by the Congress in the name of freedom fighters. But now the people of India has understood the real root cause of the problem of the nation... they have been uprooted from the power and by the grace of God...we are on the right path since 2014. 😊😊😊
Only 40 % Indians know about India's Army General name.. In India he is just a top executive...( or atmost will be learned for GK exam ) . But 90% Indians surely know who is chief of Pakistan Army. Thats the problem...
@kishorchaudhari9445
11 ай бұрын
Vr true.only 20%
@user-zk5md7gm9k
6 ай бұрын
Knowing your enemy is the problem?😂😂😂
@nikhilv4499
3 ай бұрын
same even i write the same comment everywhere
@sushmawalia4747
2 ай бұрын
Because army generals are thieves so they famous.lol
@Anonymous-8080
2 ай бұрын
More like only 15% will know Indian army general
I have listened to a lot of Pakistani KZreadrs, intellectuals and Podcasts, but the 1 person worthy of respect is Syed Muzammil Hasan . One fun fact is that Indians regardless of being right or left or liberals love to hear him.
2:13:39 I am an Indian Christian btw and I have to say this clear and loud . Bharath Ganarajya 🇮🇳 stays 'Secular' because of its 80% Pluralistic Major Hindu Population. The existence of Hindus in majority inside India is Paramount and Non Negotiable. The day Bharath looses it's Hindu population , it will stop being 'Secular'.....got it ?. Cuz either it will be an Islamic Shariah State like Afghanistan OR Communist state. We the Indian Abrahamics inside India - ( Jews , Muslims and Christians ) are 10,000 % safe regardless of us also being Hindus Civilizationaly and Culturally... This Evangelisation of Monotheism is a Cancer started by Middle East due to which we the Indians have lost our Sacred Motherland's Vedic Territories (starting from Gandhara / Kaabul).
@ahlawatabhishek
Жыл бұрын
🙏🏻
@shreyaskhot6176
Жыл бұрын
Proud of you bro
@04_amrutprakash29
Жыл бұрын
Dude is more indian than me
@vik8860
Жыл бұрын
I cant be sure whether you're a fake account or not, but it's shocking to see you are openly saying this fact which is a matter of common sense.
@PiyushKumar-ru6io
Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir for acknowledging this. Most Hindus, Christians, and other education-oriented groups in India want to have a better future and not indulge in anything bitter. I always think of myself as a Human first and then a Bhartiya.
How many got here just to hear Syed Muzzamil?
@MunawarAzaad2025
Жыл бұрын
I am his big fan . Great asset of Pakistan
@yashashsgowda6662
Жыл бұрын
It's a podcast with him, so obviously everyone?!😂
@kyadekraheho7584
Жыл бұрын
+1
@ThePakistanExperience
Жыл бұрын
Everyone? 😅
@saramona8914
Жыл бұрын
🙋♀️🙋♀️🙋♀️
I'm an indian & huge fan of Syed muzamil bcz of his rationality & critical thinking..
@user-yw5zs3pw8g
Ай бұрын
But supported kasmir ki India zulam kr rha hai
@SapiensHaiHum
Ай бұрын
@@user-yw5zs3pw8g Whatever. Rational thinkers accept facts if presented. He'll speak what facts he knows.
I think Syed is one of the very few people from Pakistan who have progressive thinking and can think beyond religion. Stumbled upon his one short video somewhere..first video or podcast from Pakistan that I found interesting n actually finished it..good job guys! Love from 🇮🇳 ❤
@jahangirsamtio8690
6 ай бұрын
We also love arundhati Roy ❤
Whether or not Pakistani hate India, they do hate Hindus. This has been my experience dealing with Pakistani for over 10+ years now. It shows up, often in form of off-the-cuff remarks, followed up with an admission-- an uneasy mix of being startled and general awkwardness. I used to pass these things over but now If I sense a shred of Hindumisia, let the other person know of my reservations.
@meikylawan3148
Жыл бұрын
Bhai hamara mulk hi hindophobia pe bana hai poora
@asma-mushtaq
Жыл бұрын
@@meikylawan3148 Speak of your own values and perspective. Pakistan hindu hatred per kabhi nahin bana. Ajeeb sauch!
@MayankKhemka
Жыл бұрын
@@asma-mushtaqlisten to speeches of your leaders from the point of independence and their view why there is a need for Pakistan
@AbhishekVerma-jk2tt
Жыл бұрын
@@asma-mushtaq Jinnahs statement for creation of Pakistan was that Muslims cannot live with Hindus if they're in majority. That it is impossible for both these societies to co exist. The Hindus didn't ask for Muslims to leave madam. Itihaas padh loh apna
@ali19231
Жыл бұрын
Literally can be said the same about you guys.
Indian constitution is secular not because its written by ink on that paper...its because Hindus were always secular...and Hindus were secular because secularism has a sense of human fareness at its core! So it all comes from culture... Indian culture has roots in enlightenment, and so India always had a head start!
@AliHammadArtist
Жыл бұрын
India is not secular.
@arunn6023
Жыл бұрын
This is 100%true because 50% of lay man on street has never read or knows Constitution.
@harman4718
Жыл бұрын
Brother I totally agree with you Hindus or secular Agar Aap SCST Hai tu kabhi circular nahin Honge
@milindsoman8025
Жыл бұрын
Not only Hindus but all religious communities except islam were/are/will secular. And only muslims, because of their religion islam, can't live/stay/mingle with all other religious communities as anyone can see wherever muslims are in majority, muslims want dirty cruel barbaric age-old islamic law and wherever muslims are in minority, muslims want secular law - even muslims will start agitation by demanding seperate country like in China's western part ujgairs, Russia's Chechen, Mynamar Rohingyas, Phillipines Southern region. Even muslims in Canada start claiming once a while in future, there will be majority islamic community & therefore islamic law will be embraced in near future. Same is the case with most of the European nations.
@anujsethi7845
Жыл бұрын
True but in recent times Hindus organization likes VHP and bajrang dal. Are not follower of hindu philosophy. They filed with hate and obsessed with muslims.
Hats off to these new generation, rational, vocal journalists of Pakistan. I have just subscribed to this channel today and whole day I am watching.
@user-yw5zs3pw8g
Ай бұрын
Go to Pakistan disrespecting Modi saying kashmir Pak hai librandu spotted
Here for muzzammil but the guy on host seat got serious questions with logic and also his own knowledge.. that makes the podcast more effective to audience. Love it ❤
In recent history 1. Pulwama happened. ,2. Imran stopped trade and doengraded consular relations. 3. Pakistan PDM government has said it will not import from India even those food items that would make life easier for ordinary Pakistani 4. Your foreign minister Bilawal makes a personal attack on Indian PM. A month later his father, the former President of Pakistan repeats it. 5. Pakistan says that there can be no talks with India unless they reinstate article 370. In effect they want India to make huge concessions just for the privilege of talking to Pakistan?
@zeeshanqamar6117
Жыл бұрын
S. Jaishankar called Pakistan a terrorist country in the UN assembly, and you're wailing our foreign minister made a personal attack on your PM-what an irony! Secondly, you guys talk about the Pulwama attack, while you guys invaded Pakistan in 1971 and disintegrated it. On the other hand, Pakistan never supported the Khalistan movement. Thirdly, I'm glad that our intellectuals have the nerve to speak against our leaders and praise India on several issues. On the other hand, I've never seen any Indians praise Pakistan. Additionally, India has blocked Pakistan's participation in the SOC meeting as of today, March 22. Lastly, Pakistanis never used the anti-India card to win electoral popularity, while it is quite opposite in India. You guys are biased as ever, my friend.
@BasEkKafir
Жыл бұрын
@@zeeshanqamar6117 khalistan movement time pakistan was ready to invade india agar bhindi wale ne khalistan declare kar diya hota.
@BasEkKafir
Жыл бұрын
@@zeeshanqamar6117 bhai terrorist ko terrorist hi bolte hai deal with it. And india tum bhikario ko bahut piche chor chuka hai
@TheShukladhvaj
Жыл бұрын
@@zeeshanqamar6117 1. You have managed to overtake Afganistan in case of terrorism . 2. India had to enter Bangladesh because of the atrocities faced by the population in Bangladesh which led to pouring in of refugees into India. 3. I don't think India has ever blocked pakistan from attending SCO meeting. Provide link to such article. 4. Praise pakistan lol praise pakistan for what exactly? Kaunsa Nasha karte ho bey. 5. Also links of pakistan with khalistan is being investigated. And don't worry we speak with facts unlike pakistan where photos of elsewhere is shown as photos of Jammu and Kashmir. Aur Rahi baat bias ki lol woh toh Hume Pakistanis na bole. Pakistan and Unbiased. 😂
@deveshsahu3218
Жыл бұрын
@@zeeshanqamar6117 bro isn't Pakistan a terrorist country, in which country Osama was, from where attackers of Mumbai came. You blame India for 1971 but read the history which is not written by a Pakistani author and you will know how Pakistan army rap*d and killed Bangladeshi yeah India supported mukti vahini but it was Pakistan who launched the attack first, you are saying Pakistan doesn't support khalistani than tell me why there is only Indian portion of Punjab is covered in khalistan not Pakistani Punjab, you expect from us to praise Pakistan but you are a Pakistani tell me on which front Pakistan is doing excellent work. Bro you said Pakistani don't use anti India politics your politics is entirely controlled by your army and your army's existence depends upon enmity from India.
1:15:40 "Modi to koi pro Pakistan Aadmi nae Hai?"..... yaar Modi is only pro India. It isn't his job to be pro Pakistan, that the job of your politicians. International relations main dosti nae hoti...sirf common interests hote hai
Muzamil shah bro you should write a book about world history and I would be the first one to buy that book. The amount of information you have and it's so fascinating to listen to your voice, so soothing. It's 4.51 am in the morning here in India and i am listening to this podcast since last almost two hours and still feeling fresh. Love from India!❤
Thoroughly impressed by Syed Muzammil Shah's clarity and awareness of the political history of the subcontinent. Subscribed.
Hindusim fundamentally is different. At the core it is secular. Secind Modi ji enjoy popularity not because he is Hindu because he has deliver economically. Also he enjoy support by a lot of Muslims of India.
@the69prophet47
Жыл бұрын
You are wrong in your last sentence. Muslims don’t support Modi whatever the case may be. An Indian muslim at core of his heart is as islamic as a muslim from pakistan.
@iqbalfirdousi9732
Жыл бұрын
I'm an indian muslim and what you're saying is complete bullshit. Modi/BJP has completely radicalised the society and we can feel that on the ground level. BJP supporters don't care about jobs or economy. In their eyes, if you support BJP, you're a "true deshbhakt" otherwise you're called an "anti-national" and will be asked to go to pakistan. They justify each and every decision/policy of the central gov and call it a masterstroke, doesn't matter how shit that may be.
@iqbalfirdousi9732
Жыл бұрын
@@the69prophet47 ikr. Indian Muslims voting for BJP is like a person writing his own name on a death note. yet to find an Indian muslim supporting BJP. Even sane Hindus don't support them let alone Indian Muslims who are their primary victims.
@besam
Жыл бұрын
@@the69prophet47 banning of tripple talaq was hugely popular with Muslim women. Sareshwala is a huge supporter.
@ayushmankar4100
Жыл бұрын
@@the69prophet47 Lol ! Modi has more supporters from Daudi Bohra Muslim community in Gujarat. Soch samaj ke bola karo .
Loved how he mentioned it is easy to be secular country when 80% population is Hindu, which more amicable towards pluralism.
@GauravKumar-ly8ki
Жыл бұрын
Timestamp???
@Anvi777
Жыл бұрын
2:13:00
@kpp2941
Жыл бұрын
@@Anvi777 Glad you got 'approval' from those who themselves seek approval from others.
@Mira-pm3ni
Жыл бұрын
@@kpp2941 it's not about approval. It's about they admitting the fact and we appreciate it . We don't need approval from others. We know what we are .
@modi8230
Жыл бұрын
@@Mira-pm3ni u r right
i am that person who wore virat kohli jersey and i was caught by cameras eye(live) during pak vs aus Test. and also on facebook pages
@AdamAdam-uy9pu
11 ай бұрын
tu kia karien.. gaa aand marien ab teri kia? Virat KOhli ke short pehn ya kisi aur ke.. no one gives a sh*t
@Anonymous-8080
2 ай бұрын
@@AdamAdam-uy9pu💀🗿
@shashanksanwal6787
Ай бұрын
That's the way forward buddy love people on the basis of their quality not on the basis of their religion. Musalman need to recognise the new world order which have nation state, and not the Muslim ummah , I am not saying hate other Muslims I am just saying view every else on same level and indifferently.
So glad to see a guest like Syed M Shah.... so clearly delineating all the core issues which led to the dismal state of affairs in Pakistan. His honesty and lucidity as well as fact based analysis of how and why Pakistan devolved and disintegrated rather than flourished after 1947 is refreshing.
With all due respect, we indian think that pakistan hurt us by terrorism and wars. Sometimes pakistani forget that whenever india try to reach out, india got hurt in responce
@kapildave5361
Жыл бұрын
Dnt Forgot Wht Guru Said About Muslim,,Hath,,Oil,,Teel,,
@akashnaik331
Жыл бұрын
obviously India is kaafir country for em they will curse us and do jihaad against India but when they feel their country is weak then will start doing altaqaiya by acting with these kind of sugarcoated words bruh, never trust your enemy especially paxtan , we shouldn't even consider em worth to have talk with islamic zombies bruh
@man74468
Жыл бұрын
Kashmiri Mujahideen destroying indian army again is Karma, Chinese Army is destroying indian army in last 5 months, 2023 Khalistan Movement is Karma, Naxalite-Maoist Insurgents destroying indian army again is Karma, Nagaland Insurgents destroying indian army again is Karma, covid crisis against indian cricketers is karma, adani crisis is karma, joshimath and other indian cities sinking is karma, assam and meghalaya fighting each other is karma, meghalaya wanting independence is Karma, measles and aids crisis in india is karma, india is ranked 107th place on world hunger index
@user-yn8gm3fb1t
Жыл бұрын
@@man74468 it's also a isi backed agenda, don't worry 40% population of punjab is hindu n low caste r also not interested in khalisathan
@man74468
Жыл бұрын
@@user-yn8gm3fb1t murder of indira gandhi was karma. 1984 Khalistan Movement was karma. 2023 Khalistan Movement is Karma
As a Indian one thing I can confidently say that Indian election are fair and not influenced by any factor. I know it's really difficult for Pakistanis to believe in this and I don't blame you bcz you never have fair election and democracy.
@71espn
Жыл бұрын
No they aren't completely fair. BJP gets away with a lot of model code violations. The election commission delays announcements of elections sonthat stops could be handed out
@71espn
Жыл бұрын
During the process of polling itself there is next to nothing disturbances but what is more corrupt and opaque than electoral bonds.
@ipak2010
Жыл бұрын
This is not entirely true. Muslim hate and Pakistan hate has always been part of the narrative to bag votes. And. BJPs narrative has been an amalgamation of prejudice towards Muslims and Pakistan
@shaam7433
Жыл бұрын
71 kay election fair ni thay?
@shaam7433
Жыл бұрын
71 kay election fair ni thay?
Impressed by the depth of knowledge and clarity shown by both about your country ''s history, politics, economics and society. The ability to recall facts and weave them into the conversation is amazing.
You two have a superb grip on the political history of the land. So proud to see that we aren’t just producing zombies.
@ThePakistanExperience
Жыл бұрын
🙌
@lamssn
9 ай бұрын
Super grip on shit
Bro election is very very fair in India recently all parties got 3 states Delhi , Himachal , gujrat if you don't know don't speak I am from Himachal and have seen how the whole process works literally armed officer carry ballot and even if one party who were present in polling booth raise a complaint whole process starts again with help of judiciary edit- himachal have congress as state government
@askerman3
Жыл бұрын
Fair elections kept India as one
@praneethjayasimha5943
Жыл бұрын
shame on himachal for voting congress. pray god for your development.
@ralphyyy8679
Жыл бұрын
@@praneethjayasimha5943 who are you to judge whom they should vote It was depenf on Himachal people Not a congress supporter par jo tu bola raha wo bhi chutiya baat hai it was against all norm of democracy
@ralphyyy8679
Жыл бұрын
It was not that india democracy failure It was opposition failure they can give proper fight to bjp Opposition was confused and hopeless Media was controlled by state now by funding not through terror Speak against Modi is like u are anti india or hindu which make no sense
@mayankindian3750
Жыл бұрын
@@ralphyyy8679ndia ki opposition ke pass koi vision hai bas Modi ko Gaali do din bhar bas ye vision hai media fact pe Baat karta hai media dekhna chod do Saari chahe wo right left koi bhi ho fact hoga to dekho
Watched the whole podcast in 7-8 installment due to the paucity of time (bcz I hv to look after my studies as well.) There are few corrections I would like to make- 1. Privy purse was not abolished right after the independence but in 1971 by 26th amendment by Indira Gandhi. 2. Army has never been used against the naxals, it's the duty of state police & then CRPF (Central reserve police force) 3. There were two operations in Golden temple- Operation blue star & Black thunder. In Blue star, Army was carrying the operation & black thunder was civilian operation. 4. Nathuram godse was not from RSS but from Hindu mahasabha, Indian judiciary has confirmed this. Same statement given by Rahul Gandhi, later he had to apologise to RSS. 5.As far as Media is concerned, they enjoy complete freedom in India. If you were indicating the BBC issue, then what BBC said was totally against the judicial system of India. Indian subordinate court, High court & supreme court has given cleanchit to PM modi in Gujrat riots case, that too in Congress era when Congress tried its best to crush modi. So BBC can't start its own judicial proceedings, it had to face the wrath of Indian people. 6. As far as Opposition in India is concerned, they are completely discarded by the people of India as far as Central election is concerned, yes there are many states which are fortress of regional parties & BJP couldn't defeat them. It's not the job of BJP to revive opposition party who are still carrying their earlier style of politics that is Dynasty politics, caste politics, etc. 7.As far as secularism in India is concerned, no party & I repeat no party can dare to alter it. It's the basic structure of our constitution & more importantly, we the people of India (majority) are by nature secular, it's in our DNA. India is secular not bcz the constitution of India is secular but bcz the people of India are secular except for some minor fringe elements. At last my humble request to you brother, I consider you a highly educated, rational & respectful guy, so plz don't say like Modi ne ye kar Diya, Modi ne wo kar Diya. He is the prime minister of the largest democracy of the world & moreover he is highly loved PM. So atleast call modi Sahab or PM modi. Humble request 🙏🙏
@ThePakistanExperience
Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@gunjanloshali3965
Жыл бұрын
@vikrantSharma u mention very well ,thanku for sharing information Jai Hind🌼👑
@sumit6b
Жыл бұрын
7th point - a polytheist religion is always more tolerant than monotheist religion though out the written history. For eg in ancient polytheist Roman Empire, far less Christians were executed compared to Christians killing each other( catholics vs Protestants) Here we have the similar situation again. For a polytheistic majority, other religions are just another god and thus “secularism is in out DNA”
@vinayaknaik2602
Жыл бұрын
Vikrant you have presented the viewpoints of the silent majority so well. You deserve appreciation.
@voidmain9519
Жыл бұрын
Well put Vikrant ji🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Looking at this startup gives me hope for Pakistan ...Love from India 😊
I couldn't believe my ears when he asked that question at 2:13:26, because if anyone in india says on a public platform that india is secular because we have Hindu majority and it wouldn't be possible in an islamic one, he/she would be harshly criticized. Because we believe that secularism is not an option but a necessity. So very brave of you to ask, and I would go one step further that Pakistan wouldn't have been created in the first place if its creators were believers of secularism.
German foreign minister came India to participate in G20 foreign minister's meeting and her plane landed before schedule time. In the meantime she was having here lunch inside the plane but all of a sudden she came out without informing Indian receiving staff. This incident was later clarified by the German and Indian officials. We Indian respect our guest "athithi devo bhava". btw this podcast channel is doing good for pak people.
@praneethjayasimha5943
Жыл бұрын
indian youth are so innocent. no plane will land in india without prior approval. this was a deliberate move by india retaliating her comments in the previous meeting. and she was not idiot to came out of the flight early to embarrass herself knowing that no one will be there to receive her. all the comments made in the media is just coverup by germans. india has not even commented on this incident.
@richarawat4849
Жыл бұрын
Correct
@yashashsgowda6662
Жыл бұрын
No plane lands without permission of ATC, people who invite usually keep in touch with ATC. It was just face saving exercise
@kpp2941
Жыл бұрын
Facesaver story from k-rauts. After barboeck was snubbed on landing in 🇮🇳, k-rauts consoled themselves with above story to save face.
@serotoninboost6336
Жыл бұрын
@@yashashsgowda6662 The story came from German consulate first. It’s not fairy tale. Watch the delegate’s video before you appear as a fool.
Kartarpur happened to woo Sikhs for Khalistan movement. That is why Shah Mahmood Qureshi called it Gugali by Imran khan.
@karamjsrihal4631
Жыл бұрын
I am a sikh and I agree with you 💯. I told all my friends the reason the Pakistanis were doing it to divide Hindus and Sikhs. Personally I don't care about Kartarpur because Guru Nanak preached that you don't have to go to any pilgrimage to find God or get closer to God. Even though he was born Hindu he disapproved of Ganga Snaan and many rituals in Hinduism. He equally disapproved of Muslim going to Haj Pilgrimage. If Guru Nanak appeard today...he will be shocked to see how Sikhs have totally against his teachings.
@ratanshetty9870
Жыл бұрын
I think syed muzamil must stop talking about India if he don't know about India..What do u mean indias election is one sided ..According to u modi get majority that means there is no democracy in India. Modi get majority of vote because of his work..He has put India in Global leader map and we are proud of our PM. ..Actual Problem of all Pakistani are they are not able to digest the success of India.. they now realised .Its not Same India of congess era who use to tolerate Pakistan for all sin .....
@man74468
Жыл бұрын
2023 Khalistan Movement is Karma. adani crisis is karma
@man74468
Жыл бұрын
@@karamjsrihal46311984 sikh genocide
@victorysonhidden
Жыл бұрын
Very true. The results are already there to see in the shape of Amritpal Singh.
It is a pleasure listening to Muzmmil,he speaks so well and points out facts.All the best to him
This guy is very intellect. Muzammil stay strong 💪
The hatred towards India might be a little less compared to Hindu, but nobody can deny that Hindu hate is the core of the existence of Pakistan as a nation because Pakistan was build only and only on Islamic terms. We can see in the history during the national movement, khilafat movement was not for freedom of India from Britishers, but a revolt for the khalifa which was far away from the Indian subcontinent. Had people in Pakistan taught about Indian valley civilisation and their actual identity which dates 5000 years back then things might have been different. The problem comes when there is a sheer ignorance of ancient identity which is found in the subcontinent and dates back to 1000's of years, but instead people search and relate their identity with a religion which was recently born in the middle eastern desert and look for their validation who anyway think that the converted muslims of these south asian countries are nothing but a third grade citizens of pan Islam.
@Screen-Explained
Жыл бұрын
@@DingDong-lh4ixab to pakistan ka lun b khara hona band ho chuka ha😂😂😂 rassi jal gae par bal nhi gya
@ChiggaJoe
10 ай бұрын
True. Pakistan does have an identity crisis and is either running to Arabs or Turks for validation. The fact is Muslims and some Hindus (RSS) etc take their religion too seriously. Either side the hate is I believe not for the country but for the religion. Regardless, being a pakistani I'd never want my country to merge again. I love my liberties and way of life and freedom as much as an Indian enjoys his or her own.
@dinozaurpickupline4221
9 ай бұрын
what islamic?check your phonebooks & look at the high rise women that you know their character or your friends
@MuhammadRizwan-bi1ux
9 ай бұрын
@@Screen-Explainedq teri maa ne bataya kya
@MuhammadRizwan-bi1ux
9 ай бұрын
Bjp k tatte
🇮🇳🤝🏼🇵🇰 "The world suffers a lot. Not because of the violence of bad people, but because of the silence of good people." ❤From India
@HussainImam29
Жыл бұрын
❤
@nishu111ful
Жыл бұрын
Big No to Pakistan
@hirenahir76200
Жыл бұрын
Nepolean Bonaparte the legend himself said that and it's so relatable specially in india or hindus case
@ResponsibleSocialPerson
Жыл бұрын
Sahi bola 👍
@mrphoenix6671
Жыл бұрын
@Hiren Ahir True brother, Islamist in India behead Hindus in name of blAs phemy, murder 1000s of Kashmiri Hindus, led to their genoc ide, now in bengal and Kerala also. Hindus are still silent and can be termed as culprit. Everyone should stand against Jihadi Islamist ideology
came here after you were mentioned by Anurag Minus Verma!! Eagerly waiting for that pod. Please bring Kunal Karma as well. you guys will rock!! we need you to collaborate with these two beautiful minds!! Thank you thank you, this ep. was awesome
Love and appreciation from India (Punjab) I am a sucker for critical conversations, and this one really hit the mark Thanks for a great convo
@ThePakistanExperience
Жыл бұрын
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If Pakistanis think that being compared to Erdogan is a positive thing, that truly shows the sorry state of Pakistani intellect, which the nation itself is a reflection of now…
@mishrabrijesh1984
Жыл бұрын
Inka ammi ka halala jo karta hai Erdogan 😂😂😂😂😂
@salikhanan
Жыл бұрын
why would you say that ?
@deepblue3682
Жыл бұрын
@@salikhanan well, he changed the parliamentary system of turkish democracy into more of presidential one.. with concentration of power to him.. arrest of political dissents, watering down of secularism in turkey which first hand allowed turkey to be a modern scientific oriented muslim majority country..precipitation of majority turkish ethnicity ideas where in a vast minority of more than 30% is kurdish and other minorities in caucus mountains... he might lead to further ethnic violence... his initial support to ISIS, turkey being the gateway to islamic state.. his islamic economic ideas which lead to present day economic collapse of turkey and to counter that him moving to more islamic values in govt to harness support of conservative muslims in country(which mirror early pakistani leader's )
@debanjanbiswas6930
Жыл бұрын
Actually turkey is on the way of becoming another paxtan...
@dharasutar
28 күн бұрын
Most is ditto copy of Erdogan just change the name of religion Islam to Hinduism in your paragraph and you will be reading Mody
i hear many pakistani people say like its a bad thing when an indian leader in 1947 didn't want ki pakistan bane...kon chahega apne desh ka partition yaar....obviously indian leaders that time didn't want the partition.
@ralphyyy8679
Жыл бұрын
U don't understand there context
@huzifavesos
Жыл бұрын
Apna desh? There was no india before 1947.
@xijinpig8982
Жыл бұрын
@@huzifavesos there was a British occupied India before independance. British India expanded from Bengal up to the whole of modern India + Pakistan + Bangladesh. There was no difference between western and Eastern Punjab, or western and Eastern Bengal. The British Raj was treated by the British as one full country that is occupied by them. This includes the 500+ princely states. In a normal situation, all of India would have gotten independence as one new country.
@huzifavesos
Жыл бұрын
@Kuch bhi rakhle Ancient texts? Maybe only in Sanskrit texts? Or hindu texts? Look dude, the biggest empire that could be considered as remotely INDIAN was the Maurayan empire and that too was patchy as even at that time Tibet whose capital Lhasa was an independent empire along with Ancient Farsi Fire worshipers. My point is INDIA was never a single entity but a SUBCONTINENT of several different Princely states and empires which changed from time to time and after the arrival of BRITS the name India was coined from Indus which is Of course in Pakistan now. And at the time of Inception of Pakistan and INDIA those states were given independent choices to choose one of the countries. All those names whether it is Bahrat and other complex names in Sanskrit or any other text are actually CULTURAL hallmarks for different Regimes of different empires. Even if you still disagree then I am afraid you have that Typical BHAKT ideology till this day.
@huzifavesos
Жыл бұрын
@@xijinpig8982 Read What I have written for your fellow Indian.
this is a gem of a long dialogue in the era of reels and tiktoks.
@ThePakistanExperience
Жыл бұрын
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Muzammil se BEHTREEN - INSAN , JOURNALIST, PHILOSOPHER HIGHLY INTELLECTUAL IN HIS EVERY BLOG l salute Honorable Syed Muzammil ❤
Answer to the Mushkil Question: Yes, it is. India is secular because it is a Hindu majority. Indian secularism and secular civil discourse do not come from the constitution. Instead, inspiration for a secular constitution is very much drawn from thousands of years of assimilation of diverse and pluralistic thought processes. India was secular even before the word 'Secular' was forcefully introduced in the constitution by Indira Gandhi in late 70's. India was secular even before the first idea of Pakistan was thought out.
@sonukumarchoubey4510
Жыл бұрын
That's why we are bleeding and beheading by secular Islamic friends.
@piyushjaiswal9283
11 ай бұрын
Word secular inserted by Indira Gandhi in emergency period.
@AmAnkt28
8 ай бұрын
India is still secular because Constitution apna tagda h, agar badalney ko rehta toh ho jata ab tak,lekin hua nai, thats coz it is literally impossible to change them, toh please bro, don't be in the delusion ,we r secular coz apne India ka basis hi secularism tha which became soul of our constitution.BJP ne karn hota toh kab ka kar dena th, imagine they aren't doing that, now imagine.Hindu majority is appreciable.Jai hind, allahuAkbar, god bless you
It's hard time to speak truth in Pakistan. Appreciation and Love for both of you ❤️
@ThePakistanExperience
Жыл бұрын
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@vsukhani
Жыл бұрын
Very well capsulated. Pakistan as a society doesn't seem to like people with good IQ. I see and feel so much frustration brewing inside the heart and mind of people with intelligence in Pakistan.
@vivekyadav1
Жыл бұрын
Speaking the truth while denying your own ancestry is always tough. Pretending to be arab or turk or persian isnt going to earn you any brownie points, nor is naming your missiles after afghans going to.
@AsifAli-zp5wu
Жыл бұрын
Syed muzammil has not got a chance to interview the imran khan, so he jealous. State is for the people, agr state people ke against hai to people has every right to decide the power. Loosers are jealous of imran khan.
@hussainnawazz
Жыл бұрын
@@AsifAli-zp5wu bhai teri aqal ko salam hai
I'm from India. I must tell you one thing... Inbetween your conversation, you made some loose talk.... That's the essence of your channel. Though You are discussing very serious thing .but those loose talks will helps us to listen you more . Love you bro... Stay blessed .
syed muzammil shah has the balls to call spade a spade, that too with facts with knowledge of world politics
Dude just realised the scale of Indian consumer market and is extracting it to the fullest. Nothing bad in this.
@universe6798
Жыл бұрын
Exactly😂😂😂
@ralphyyy8679
Жыл бұрын
Bro why show negative i listen his podcast even don't talk about india Because his content is good
@MrReachashish
Жыл бұрын
Exactly 😂😂😂.
@Gappasappa
Жыл бұрын
Agree. But like uzair has discovered, 🇮🇳 content gets maximum views 😀😀
@basitiqbalbutt5647
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, just now, just when you start watching it. Lol. This guy has been doing podcast for 4 years, it is not about India. It is the Pakistan experience. He just happens to be a non toxic desi
The German minister got out of the plane before the protocol time. It wasn't Indian ignorance, ego or mistake. They later accepted they got out of the plane without informing and earlier than the protocol planned time. We indians would never undermine foreign relationship even when we are the richest. We ain't dumb
Thank you Syed Muzzamil for recommending Neil Postman,great insights.Shezhad, You are doing great work through The Pakistan Experience!Although India has progressed much still most of the governance & bureaucratic problems are same as Pakistan.I am a teacher from India & it is great to get enlightened by hearing your thoughts.
@ThePakistanExperience
9 ай бұрын
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Muzamil is a cool guy...I liked his point of view.... interesting people in Pakistan realize the reality and know the truth....
Both folks forget that if Modi is so anti Muslim, KSA wouldn't have given him their highest civilian award!
@nikhilhembrom8952
Жыл бұрын
Cmon rss have 10000 muslim members
@syedmuhammadfaheem8662
Жыл бұрын
KSA is not the standard
@holyindian
Жыл бұрын
@@syedmuhammadfaheem8662 Pakistan is the standard?
@syedmuhammadfaheem8662
Жыл бұрын
@@holyindian Yes it is the sole Muslim nuclear power.
@abhishekdhanger5214
Жыл бұрын
Syed Muhammad Faheem Abe tumari suyi atamik bumse hat hi nahi rahi hai
India uses paramilitary forces or central police force first, in case police aren't able to handle law and order situation. Operation blue star was done by the military as a last resort, after that cleaning up of Khalistani mess was done by Punjab police under the leadership of Gill. RAW, Intelligence Bureau are headed by Police officers. Army is used as last line of defense. eg, Rashtriya rifles in case of fighting militancy in Jammu and Kashmir.
@ThePakistanExperience
Жыл бұрын
Interesting
@kyadekraheho7584
Жыл бұрын
Confirmed +1
@bainsajay12
Жыл бұрын
Even Airforce declined to provide any air support for actions against naxalite including helicopter services.
@vishvajitkumar9497
Жыл бұрын
@@ThePakistanExperience kabhi toda boath study kiya ho tho pata hoga ne
@pinkmankid860
Жыл бұрын
@@vishvajitkumar9497 bhai do news dhek Kr expert bn jate h ye india pr.
its not about pakistan hating india ....its about hating the kafir if you have iman
Downloaded and will watch it later
Muzammil Bhai is love. Can listen to this guy for hours straight, this guy always educates the youth of this nation. Thankyou shehzad Bhai for calling him.
@rahulanand2142
Жыл бұрын
Kyun Bhai wo gaana gaata h ki ghanto tk sunte hi rahoge.
@FahadAli-ei7ns
Жыл бұрын
@@rahulanand2142 😂😂😂
@ABCD-cw3fs
Жыл бұрын
Why Bhikhari are exported from Pakistan..319 Paki Bhikhari deported back to Pakistan from Dubai 😀😂😀😎
@jameelhussain3718
8 ай бұрын
Great 👌 show. Keep it up.
Muzammil's summary of Pakistan's disturbing political path in the early decade brought me to tears because that probably made me realize the mountain of a challenge if we want to change something for the next generations. Decades of wrongdoings can not be fixed quickly, and that too when nobody even wants to mend their ways.
@bachoogranger
Жыл бұрын
Brother i agree. We pakistanis are not even ready to accept our shortfalls and mistakes then how come we will heal our self inflicted wounds?? 😞
@indipacifician3693
Жыл бұрын
the first thing u do is stop reading kuran and stop others also. kuran is evil. it converts anyone reading it from humans to animals
@Matthehousecat
Жыл бұрын
The problem with Muzammil and his fanboys is that dwelling in the past isn’t gonna magically yield anything. Pakistan needs a do-over, and just talking about the alleged mistakes of our forefathers really isn’t gonna do much in the grand scheme of things. The youth is already as polarized as ever, and half-baked revisionism is only going to create more confusion. This guy is a radical, and for some reason his face keeps showing up on every single media platform. He should perhaps stick to philosophy, even at that, his ideas are dangerously Nietzschean.
@indipacifician3693
Жыл бұрын
@@Matthehousecat accepting the mistakes is the first step you idiot. this is not a magic wand where you mass murder thousands of hindus christians and suddenly say i am a saint from today not an islamic terorist. not going to happen in a day
@kulbhushanraimadan1707
Жыл бұрын
No one will listen to these intellectuals. Pak is in the fast grip of clerics and politicians are looting gullible foolish public taking advantage of the state, and pushing agenda of clerics crooks.
Every now and then I forget I have watched this episode already. It's only half way through that I realize it. One of the best episodes deserves every single view.
@ThePakistanExperience
Ай бұрын
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Syed Muzzamil… hope Pakistan realizes your perspective and potential. We need more people like you… on both sides of the border
Syed Muzamil is real gem of Pakistan. Thanks for inviting him.
@ThePakistanExperience
Жыл бұрын
🙌
@user-xh4uk1rh3b
Жыл бұрын
@@ThePakistanExperience *NO TO PEACE WITH HI DU MUZHAB K DUSHMAN AUR HINDUO K QAATIL HINDUSTANI PAKISTANI SO CALLED MUSALMANO*
@mahen1825
Жыл бұрын
absolutely a gem. One of the sane brain of Pakistan.
@inayatgill1522
Жыл бұрын
@@ThePakistanExperience even india has used military in extreme cases , the operation blue star was also done by military with the help of police
@overwatch91
Жыл бұрын
Burger bahan chhh😮😮😮😮😮d
Two of my most fav podcasters - having a wonderful, intellectual, soft-spoken, detailed, enlightening conversation. 💚💙💜
@ThePakistanExperience
10 күн бұрын
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You both are my favourite in Pakistan since you are not biased at all, Also as an Indian and whatever knowledge I have - I don’t think Pakistan can ever get over the Pakistani army since they have control over everything
This is the only place where we can see both Pakistani people and Indian people praising the podcast,content without any hate towards each other...This is my fav youtube channel from pakistan 🙂
@ThePakistanExperience
Жыл бұрын
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@SanjTrip-Topic
Жыл бұрын
Are you blind or deaf..the host seems to have a extremely anti Modi view without any basis. And if he thinks that one book wonder Naxalite Arundhati is an intellectual then he needs to educate himself
@FirstLast-fj1yp
Жыл бұрын
you are certified kafir. You must know what is done with a kafir.
@piranha3037
Жыл бұрын
@@ThePakistanExperience SAHEB, BLACK DAY ON 28TH OF MARCH !!! PAKISTAN FORCEFULLY OCCUPED BALOCHISTAN ON 27TH MARCH 1948. 28TH OF MARCH IS THE BALCK DAY FOR BALOCH NATION. PLEASE WEAR A BLACK BAND ON 28TH OF MARCH.
@seven-ww9sg
Жыл бұрын
@@ThePakistanExperience As an Indian i think pakistan is going through recreational and cleansing stage where facts will resurface and need to be accepted. Pakistan in long term will break and join their parent country (India) and then india will become supreme power from Regional power.
Main reason of Division ? English plan at least 50 years ahead, Hindus also knew that with Muslims around they will never get India. Poonja Chap whom we fondly call Quaid e Azam was a Parsi, he was launched and his CV built up, initially it was said he is Agha Khani, but Ismalis did not accept him. So in 1900 it was revealed he is a Sunni Muslim. Hindus were in the game , they started promoting Poonja Chap as a great Muslim leader. Secondly at end of WW2 Russia, who had defeated Germans , had 5 million strong well trained army and they could just march down to Indian Ocean., American and English , changed plans, Hindu leaders were tasked to create a fear of Hindu majority. Poonja Chap played his part. A buffer state using loyal subjects who helped English regain India in 1857 was created. Hindu Muslims had lived side by side for over 800 years, by inciting riots, Poonja Chap got 1.5 Million Muslim, Women, Children and men Slaughtered and handed India to Hindus, who never had any claims to rule India. Initially English had planned to leave in June 1948, but were told Poonja Chap was about to conk off, so they left immediately in August 1947, Poonja declared independence on 14 August without knowing where are the borders. Once Poonja had played his part Border were announced on 17 August. Rest history we know
quran 9: 123 As an Indian Hindu I love this verse. that the truth of every so called liberal-secular- muslim
@ahmedismail568
28 күн бұрын
Context my friend, you need to look at context, its the same as quoting indian prime minister's address to the public in wartime and saying that india does not want peace with Pakistan at all when its actually only relevant to that situation...also read Quran 8:61
1:45:00 you right, India has Midday meal scheme, which makes students go to school for food & learn from 1960's. Which has given back to the society manyfold times.
A sincere appeal to the host . Since there is a lot of prejudice against hindutva, please invite a "hindutva intellectual " and ask him/her your most difficult questions, then form your opinion 👍🙏😊
@sonukumarchoubey4510
Жыл бұрын
J Sai Deepak 😂he will burn them. This are new born Liberal 😂 he will eat them with indic facts.
@eshadey8214
Жыл бұрын
You mean Hindutva, the political ideology or Hinduism, the religion?
@sonukumarchoubey4510
Жыл бұрын
@@eshadey8214 Don't look everything from the political binary. Hindutva is not a Political Ideology its is continuing from the times of Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaja and it will continue further until we HINDUS Reclaim our Belongings. Only strong resistance makes Hindu survived.
@eshadey8214
Жыл бұрын
@@sonukumarchoubey4510 Hindutva is a politico religious identity and this has been described by J Sai Deepak himself.
@eshadey8214
Жыл бұрын
@@sonukumarchoubey4510 Dude reclaim our belongings? Nobody is stopping anyone from researching about their roots. Isme reclaim kya karna h? Jisko interest h karlo research. India gives you full freedom to practice and propogate your religion toh one can easily research and preach their religion.
As an Indians , we can live with all religions but not radicalism.
One correction - the operation on the golden temple was in fact committed by the Indian Army, not any civilian force. It’s a dark day in Indian history and all Indians agree at least that it should’ve been carried out by a civilian force , if at all!
Two of my favourite gentlemen from across the border.❤. May you both achieve all the success you deserve 🤗. Starting to listen to the podcast now……
@ThePakistanExperience
Жыл бұрын
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@drawingkids6067
Жыл бұрын
@@ThePakistanExperience where is your hindu male actors and cricketers?
@kpp2941
Жыл бұрын
@@drawingkids6067 They've finished them all. Then they make podcasts to make YT money from Indian' views since we're gullible and easy to fool.
@moonlightrathore
Жыл бұрын
@@ThePakistanExperience PM Narendra Modi and Pakistani PM Nawaz Sharif met in the Russian city of Ufa on 10th July 2015. A historic joint declaration was released after the meeting which made “terror" the core issue of the India-Pakistan dialogue process. The joint statement didn’t mention Kashmir. It was a first in India-Pakistan diplomatic history, but Nawaz Sharif was heavily criticised for it back home. The result? Just 16 days after it, India saw the Gurdaspur terror attack on 27th July 2015. Three terrorists, believed to be from Pakistan, killed seven people including the superintendent of police. Terrorists targeted a bus and a police station. Gurdaspur is a border town and shares a boundary with Pakistan. 25th December 2015 came again as a surprise with PM Modi’s Lahore stopover while on his way back from Afghanistan’s capital city Kabul. India still believed that its civilian government, headed by Nawaz Sharif, could be given a chance despite the Pak army’s terror tentacles and its terror extensions in India and despite the venomous anti-India rhetoric of its radical establishments. The sudden visit to wish Sharif on his 66th birthday and to attend his granddaughter’s wedding was a big diplomatic signal, but Pakistan failed to respect it. Just seven days later, on 2nd January 2016, India saw the Pathankot terror attack. The Pathankot air force station was attacked by five JeM terrorists from Pakistan. Like Gurdaspur, Pathankot also shares a border with Pakistan. The terror attack by Pakistan-based JeM terrorists killed seven personnel. KARTARPUR CORRIDOR - BETRAYAL EVEN ON FAITH Kartarpur in Pakistan is where Guru Nanak spent the last 18 years of his life. It is symbolised by the Gurdwara Sri Kartarpur Sahib, the final resting place of the founder of Sikhism. The place is religiously and spiritually connected to the Dera Baba Nanak shrine, located in the district of Gurdaspur, in India’s Punjab state. The Kartarpur Corridor links these two places and offers visa-free travel to devotees. India sent two of its union ministers, Harsimrat Kaur Badal and Hardeep Singh Puri, for the corridor’s groundbreaking ceremony on 25th November 2018. Just two months on, 44 CRPF personnel were killed in a dastardly suicide attack by a JeM terrorist in the Pulwama district on 14th February 2019. The opening of the Kartarpur Corridor on 9th November 2019 was welcomed by India and other countries, but Pakistan used this religious and spiritual connection to push separatist sentiments into India. The official video by Pakistan’s Ministry of Information and Broadcasting had posters of three slain Khalistani separatist leaders Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale, Major General (dismissed) Shabeg Singh, and Amrik Singh Khalsa.
@chandrakanthveluri9860
Жыл бұрын
@KP P This fellow blames Modi for not offering olive branch as if they have done us a favor.
After a long time I came across two people from Pakistan who were analyzing the interpretation of the current situation through rational discussion. Many thanks and best wishes for your channel. Form 🇧🇩
I think what you guys are failing to understand is that no other politician in Pakistan these days provide better policies for general public welfare than Imran Khan. So the public support that he's receiving is not out of the blue.
I want to clarify one thing we indian have -100% interest in any relationship with pakistan .
If Pakistani's don't hate India, why does any random dude in Pakistan go on a "Hum Musalmaan hain, woh Hindu hai ..." That a Pakistani wears a Virat Kohli T-shirt does not automatically mean he loves India or Indians. False equivalence ! We understand that an average Pakistani's life may not revolve around hating Indians but scratch them a little, their prejudice against Indians/Hindu surfaces and that's because of their education (not lack of it). Their system feeds them that on a daily basis .
@ThePakistanExperience
Жыл бұрын
Social media highlights the extreme. If you go across Pakistan and talk to Pakistanis you'll find way more love than hate.
@sunisbeautiful8695
Жыл бұрын
That's a lie. In Pakistani textbooks hate for Hindus and India is taught. So many channels show what random people in Pakistan think of India. Also Hindus attacked with bricks for playin Holi in Pakistan.
@Ashishkumar-ks6uo
Жыл бұрын
@@ThePakistanExperience brother sorry but ur history books mai... India or hindu ke khilaf sirf hate hai...... Usko change kro.... ... India ki one book name bta do jisme kuch wrong hai Pakistan ke uper.... Koi book nhi hai.... Hmare yha hate ni pdaya jata.... Jo apke yha hota..... Fir kese accept kr skte...........
@Ashishkumar-ks6uo
Жыл бұрын
@@ThePakistanExperience one more thing..... Ap koi kbi india aaye nhi... Ap me se kisi ko india ke bare mai pta kuch hai nhi........ Bat ese krte... Jaise pta ni kya ho..... Fact hai to bolo...... Exterisium ki bat to... All world ko pta hai... Kha par hai
@vinsin328
Жыл бұрын
@@ThePakistanExperience Not true. Many Pakistani still dream of return of slavery and sharia laws.
"Pehla Pakistani 712 me aaya tha" was epic :) Thanks for opening this channel of communication between people on two sides of barbed wire.
@ThePakistanExperience
Жыл бұрын
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@amankohli9231
6 ай бұрын
They're saying PEHLA Pakistani to (Mohammed bin Kasim) who came to Pakistan in 712. How shamelessly they're Acknowledged a Invader . And who are those people who live there years before 712.. SAALE JAHIL LOG
Miraculously they live in Islamic republic of Pakistan and talk about India's secularism.😅😅
Big fan of Syed!!!! But also fan of interviewer because though he is stand up comedian, he is very intelligent and well aware of politics and life. Very few comedian is as good as him.
I am from India. It was a good show. Hatred apart , this show discussed some technical aspects of politics. Cheers 👍👍
Shehzad mentioned one point where he say Pak didn't retaliate after Indian missile landed in Pak. Sir, Pak has been sending terrorists to Kashmir since 1990's. A lot of Indians have lost lives from Pak sponsored terrorism plus 2001 parliament attack plus 2008 Mumbai attacks. I am not even covering many other attacks. Our govt didn't retaliate even when they had the will of the people on their side. We have exercised extreme patience with Pak. We are all for peace and we have nothing against common people of Pak but as Muzamil mentioned, there are vested interests in Pak whose money minting shop would close if there was peace.
Muzammil Shah.... lots of love from india.
In the present scenario of world, it is a matter of great courage and honesty to speak the truth. The world needs such people.
54:49 India very rarely used the army to quell internal dissent . Most of the anti naxal operations were carried out by central or state police forces which were under civilian Home affairs ministry , not the army. The only 2 situations I can think of the army being involved in internal disturbances is Kashmir and the north east conflicts (Nagas,bodos etc.) . I think this happened mostly due to the fact that these 2 regions are near international borders,close to the already existing area of army influence and operation . The Indian national congress under Nehru and later leaders were paranoid about coups and the power of army , and hence always kept them under tight financial and operational control and at a distance from the general populace . One thing to note though , the military does get involved in relief and rescue operations during times of distress or natural disasters.
@yugmathakkar4023
Жыл бұрын
The insurgency in Punjab was also handled by the military btw
@user-yn8gm3fb1t
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@@yugmathakkar4023 only the time when it goes out of control
@yugmathakkar4023
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@@rohand04 There's many more "alleged" instances where the Indian army has used violence on Indian nationals, as well as innocent foreign civilians. Talk to any Sri Lankan Tamil about the Indian Peace Keeping force during the Sri Lankan Civil War and you'll hear some horrific shit coming from them. We're still leagues better than any other nation's army, but unfortunately we're not as clean as we're taught we are.
@kaushikvedanarayanan177
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@@rohand04 yes that’s another fair point you make , even when used in internal conflicts , the army has seldom been successful nor come out of it with its reputation unscathed .
@akshaysharma2
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The one thing that Muzammil got wrong is that the Golden Temple operation was carried out by the army
@the_Pakistan_experience Ohh Bhai Modi govt had publicly apologised!! Also there was a parliamentary hearing !!!for the missile issue Secondly the officer in-charge of missile launch is facing court marshal. Your govt never apologised for anything !!!
With all due respects to Syed Muzamil Shah I want to say that there is a body of people think Imran is the lesser evil. Where will you bring angels to rule this nation of crooks.
We love Syed Muzzamil in India, the phenomenal personality!!
@ThePakistanExperience
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@desi_patriot
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Don't be fooled Avi.. Find out whether this Muzzie loves us......Do chaar meethi meethi baath bol diya aur tum deewane ho gaye..
@AYUSHKUMAR-yw7hj
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Don't say on behalf of every Indian. Many of us don't love any Pakistani including me.
I disagree with you regarding military coup. 'Boys' can't just come up to power in all countries, it depends on how much the democratic values are entrenched in society. Also India is kind of coup d'etat proof. (My understanding comes from reading book of Edward luttwacks coup d'etat) In India army, navy, airforce were separated for the longest of times until CDS was appointed recently, so there was little room for coordination. Except for Syria all coups are done by Army. So if a country makes sure there's decentralisation of power they can effectively fight any attempt of coup d'etat. India's paramilitary forces, border petrol forces (BSF, ITBP,SSB),central police forces, central industrial security force etc. are all seperated from Army for this reason. All 28 states of India have their own police forces and center can't intervene in law and order unless there's an exceptional scenario. So in order to have a coup d'etat in India. Army has to get control of all Indian police forces, paramilitary forces etc. And not just capture New Delhi but all major state capitals while fighting protests all over India. Logistics of it is just enormous.
@ThePakistanExperience
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The military is obviously the most well armed institution in any country. If they want to do it violently, they can. Obviously they've been thwarted in countries too.
@Shivamkumar28117
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@@ThePakistanExperience In india military cannot do that because all the forces separated form each other and there is no co ordination of force in themselves either it is army ,navy or airforce and India is too large , for controlling in india they have to control 1st police of all state and it cannot happen it is impossible
@vinsin328
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It has more to do with culture and history.
Shehzaad ,You have such a vast knowledge about historical events of Pakistan.Keep on rising like this ❤❤❤
@ThePakistanExperience
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speaking of cricket love, I still remember the Day Rawalpindi Express Shoaib Akhter went in the ground in my home town Kolkata wearing my home team Kolkata Knight Rider's jersey playing for our team in IPL, all of us were cheering that day, We are now Invincible, koi bhi batsman bhej do ura dega bhaijan
As Thomas Stephen Szasz - The Hungarian-American academic and psychiatrist used to say -“Clear thinking requires courage rather than intelligence” Salute you guys for your courage and determination to peel the onion to find out the different layers in your quest for the truth which has always been subverted in Pakistan by a few to further their personal interests - Truth prevails only if a generation has to sacrifice for the next generation
@harris566
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Well narrated.
@ratanshetty9870
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I think syed muzamil must stop talking about India if he don't know about India..What do u mean indias election is one sided ..According to u modi get majority that means there is no democracy in India. Modi get majority of vote because of his work..He has put India in Global leader map and we are proud of our PM. ..Actual Problem of all Pakistani are they are not able to digest the success of India.. they now realised .Its not Same India of congess era who use to tolerate Pakistan for all sin .....
hey shehzad i am watching ur podcast from past 2 months ., my favourite pakistanis to listen are muzamil sir , dr ahmed sir , these two are gems of pakistan who talks on facts and my lastest favorite uzair , , i hope u guys one day visit this side of border , i dont know why pakistani thinks modi will destroy INDIA /? which is not even 1 percent true , he is an experienced administrator who worked for gujarat for 15 years showesd its worth and now people of india feels so much proud that modi is leading the country and its true that minor incidents of some radical people try to impose themselves on minority ,but thats a law and order issue , and most of people feels in INDIA that it is modi who will take INDIA forward , and his biggest contribution to our country is , today u will india is more united proactive and full of energy and everybody feels that energy that their country is changing , u wont find that kind of disappointment in people mindset hope u visit my city chandigarh one day u will love it
@ThePakistanExperience
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Syed Muzammil is a gem ❤
I wonder why we Indians are watching Syed.. for me, in a perfect world India nd Pakistan did not seperate.... It would have been too perfect... Thats why ended up on the right side.. Jai hind!
In the age of Youthism, Listening to such sane voices is a breath of fresh air ❤
@ThePakistanExperience
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@zaidmuneeb8254
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Age of youthism...😂😂😂😂 exactly
@samsameena5615
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Absolutely breath of fresh air .
@emeraldknight84
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@@Ahmad-oh6ic and you are a bloody Nobody
You guys are, indeed, doing a marvelous job. Keep up the good work.
@ThePakistanExperience
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48:15 Can someone give reference of any book or article which shows Pakistan army's participation in Korean War.
Navroz Mubarak to everyone,may this year bring peace and prosperity in our beautiful world.
@anshchaturvedi7221
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Which yr is it?
@ThePakistanExperience
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Navroz Mubarak
@saimahirani3836
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@@anshchaturvedi7221 it’s celebrated on 21st March,every year. It is celebrated in iran,central Asia,Afghanistan,India and Pakistan.This festival celebrated in Iran for centuries and through trade,religion and migration it is celebrated now all over the world.
@cyb-m
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@@saimahirani3836 it is the Iranian new year. as usual pakees have nothing original. everything is borrowed from Iran, Arabia, Mongols (Turks). They wont follow anything Indian, coz they dont want to accept the truth that they are india, their forefathers were hindus who were forcefuly converted by islamic invasions.
@Shahid_Vegdani
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@@saimahirani3836Hi Saimah Hirani Ya Ali Madad Kem Cho ?
It's always good to see Muzammil on the podcast! Really meaningful conversation and it was good to see that all the political parties were called out for what they did wrong. Great work Shehzad!
@ThePakistanExperience
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I wanted to hear about various things from Muzammil Shah bhai but some how he was confined to the topic of current political affairs. May be another seating where he gets to talk more and gets to share ideas on various topics would be great. Thanks 😊
Nice to have discovered Muzamil, says it like it is.
Awesome podcast. Nice knowing Pakistan has a next generation that is not only intellectual but also truthful. These podcasts will definitely change the mindset of PPL in Pakistan if not today but surely tomorrow. 👍
@ThePakistanExperience
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@kpp2941
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@@ThePakistanExperience lol intellectual. No matter how 'educated' or otherwise, just scratch one of them, the underlying unkempt dir-tea g-haddi invariably comes out. Poor fellow just trying to make YT money. They need it.
@AYUSHKUMAR-yw7hj
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They have more viewers on our side of border. Bhaii don't get carried away by their words 🙂 , pak was formed because of hatred for HINDUS.
@Screen-Explained
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@@AYUSHKUMAR-yw7hjthat's what I was about to say you can see more than 50% comments are from foreigners especially from india and the rest which are from pakistan you can see a large % of them still stood on their useless beliefs
I am a very blind supporter of IK but hearing your realistic talks I am changing my way. you guys are damn good to hear
@bilalhassanedits
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Us bro us. Now I am feeling that IK lied with Pakistanis.
@ThePakistanExperience
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Welcome to the light you two 😅
@megalokhande3195
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Don't be blind supporter of anyone in your life ...
@bilalhassanedits
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@@ThePakistanExperience Shehzad bhai I was not a PTI Supporter at all but now I am actually realizing the real story of installment of IK in our politics.
@malice-towards-all
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Imran is pied piper and youth is following him blindly … good few have started to see reason after listening to the voices of reason
This is exactly the point , pak plays good cop bad cop , on one hand these moderates speak of almost being Indian and we keep having incidents like 26/11 Mumbai attacks , which these moderates conveniently forget
another excellent interview & discussion of Pakistan's core issues regardless of u guys secular state version in a muslim country which is debatable.. 👍