Amazing video You really broke down men’s fashion over the course of hundreds of years and did it very comprehensively. Thank you Fashionlover4, you’re making the best fashion content on KZread.

@fashionlover4

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

i like this channel a lot bc it feels like im just gossiping w a pal lol

@pseudo148

Жыл бұрын

Why does this make so much sense

@fashionlover4

Жыл бұрын

Lol gonna go back to doing more gossip after all the fashion history vids

@jharrim

Жыл бұрын

Parasocial

The transition from Ye to Virgil's LV got me teared up a little not gonna lie. Plus points for the Junya explanation and including HBA in the picture somewhere there. This is literally one of the most important fashion video in youtube.

I really like how in depth you went whilst still keeping it concise. I think it's really important for people who care about modern fashion to understand it's history and this really helps us to understand why fashion trends happen even in the mainstream.

Sooo a clip of Hedi Slimanes Dior Homme FW03 collection that had 97 views on KZread was claimed so I had to remove the whole segment from the video which kind of ruins the continuity.. Anyway here's what it said so it makes sense. Nothing was really happening visually on screen just showing the collection so I don't really mind cutting it out, but if you would like to see it, I left a link in the description to the uncut video. Or you can just read what I had to say below instead. The cut happens at 12:18 where it skips to the style zeitgeist magazine cover. "Hedi Slimane was doing the opposite in youthful menswear with Dior Homme. His AW03 collection epitomises his unapologetic edgy rock and roll inspired looks. Similar to Raf, Hedi offered an alternative to the younger generations, he presented a more mainstream casual look on younger skinnier models which related more to the average younger man than the jacked chiseled models of other brands. Hedi Slimane's skinnier looks were becoming a massive success and with the backing of a huge fashion house like Christian Dior he catapulted into the mainstream. He was one of the first designers to reach a much wider audience outside of fashion diehards and I'd say he's responsible for getting a lot of guys into fashion in the first place which is possibly one of the hardest things to accomplish with menswear, just getting men to take that first step and take some interest in fashion. Hedi Slimane probably had the widest reach in the 2000s with his clothes. By this time many new styles had been established and were being remixed by many brands that hadn't come with the ideas first themselves. Over the next 10 years, there wasn't much variation in the mainstream for menswear fashion but there were a couple of notable underground brands that started to gain traction, particularly in online menswear fashion forums like stylezeitgeist"

I think overlooking Hedi Slimane is a bit of an injustice... his influence on everyday wear is absolutely crucial. Before him, wearing something form fitting (ie acknowledging your body through your clothes) wasn't really accepted. He's the one who led us down the path of accepting that men too can be looked at for their bodies, and though it obviously led to a lot of issues for men too, it was freeing in a big way. Plus, he was basically the biggest change that happened to men's formal wear in decades.

Tiny detail but i would call Rose Bertin, the dresser of Marie Antoinette, the first stylist. Some even consider her being the first ‘designer’

@fashionlover4

Жыл бұрын

I meant men's stylist, I should have included that, you're absolutely right

I love how you tell fashion with all historical, economic, sosıological context, man you are good in this

getting to be a teenager during the 2010s swing of men’s fashion was a privilege

I loved this video because of how informative it was to where the base of fashion came from but also , at the same time I’m so glad you touched based on steetwear and how Kanye is the one to really build it on, and then wrapping it up with Virgil’s best show, it’s crazy because I got into fashion as a og carti fan in 2015 and now being 22 I have the framed image in my room above my bed of carti walking the runway of that show, while he was also the first and last look of the show. Crazy but loved this more than I can say

@ltzdawn

Жыл бұрын

@mo2chvc Not many have the same story or relate to what I said, so yea lol

@glizzycodm2842

Жыл бұрын

@mo2chvc goofball

Love your dissection of fashion history and how it’s so relatable today. Your videos are true gems. My name is Drew but I go by Kelectrik, keep going my friend ⚡️

CDG FW93 my favorite fashion show ever. Glad you brought it up.

@Antonio-nk5mx

Жыл бұрын

Keep going btw 🫶🫶

Great video man. You did a great job doing a deep dive in menswear or men's fashioin. I definitely came away with knowing more after watching this

Great video on a topic I was literally thinking about the other day. Laying it out like this properly highlights how far menswear has come, and the role menswear plays in fashion that is all too frequently talked down

@fashionlover4

Жыл бұрын

I agree, I wanted to make a video like this for a while so that it's all in one place, I feel like most people getting into fashion kind of had to piece it together

the Raf Simons FW01 show is exactly what youth fashion looks like current year. Punk x hiphop = Opium. Also, with that metal frame they used on the runway, it must've been the main inspiration for that one Playboi Carti Rolling Loud set.

11:07 I also read in an old fashion history book from the 2000s that Helmut Lang was the first to sell a collection via the internet

@AlexHider

6 күн бұрын

This is not completely true. HL 1998 show was indeed the first time a runway was shown over the internet, but you still needed to go to the store to get the garments. Net a porter launched the same year (I’m fairly certain) and that would be the first e-commerce fashion website we had.

Wow! Thank you!! I'm no longer feel like I'm swimming in the dark when it comes to fashion. And thank you for the early history as well!

Great video and you really wrapped it up in a nice bow with your closing statements. 👏

No runway shows of Ralph Lauren, nor his lifestyle ads. He adapted British prep school looks to the American lifestyle. Ivy League became a very popular style of the American east coast student population. Many of the items taken from their rich parents. Button down shirts, sack suits, Brooks Brothers, Murray's Toggery Shop, Nantucket Reds, Navy blazers with brass buttons, Tommy Hilfiger we're seen everywhere. Armani? Saville Row? The nautical lifestyle clothing, boat shoes, loafers, equestrian, polo. British Barbour jackets? I remember the 70's rock musicians and their colorful clothing. It tricked into bell bottoms for the youth, yellow t'shirts, yellow Harrington jackets. Thank you for your efforts. 40's and 50's movie stars are worth mentioning. Some of the men and woman were so elegant and well dressed. They inspire me today to dress my best whenever I leave the house.

good ass job, appreciate how much effort u put in these videos.

i missed Massimo osti as he was a big part of how menswear came to be. still great work man!

Love this channel 😌 he's very knowledgeable

I didn't get influenced by shows really, but more by going out skating in berlin and 2000s skate culture that I got to know through my uncle. Yes, I wear overly baggy jeans, and have hoodies with sleeves cut off aswell as the entire t-shirt over shirt thing. It's comfortable and awesome, goes extremely well with old, chunky, long lasting (very important) skate shoes.

@alecothegecko

Жыл бұрын

yea I agree, I think skate and black culture's influence were overlooked or missed in this video. Streetwear would be nowhere without them

@Yuvraj.

Жыл бұрын

@@alecothegecko also not enough about Japanese and French influences, but he outright said he was only doing what he knew at the beginning

I walked for the last Kiko show aw23, n if it wasn't for u I wouldn't have known anything about him or the brand so ty! And also this video might just help me study for my fashion history exam lmao

@fashionlover4

Жыл бұрын

That's crazy man, I'm glad I could help!

Nice video! Its interesting to think what fashion will look like in 10 years or even 30 years. One trend I have noticed as of late is that people start to bring back old trends, maybe people will start regularly wearing suits again?

Everything after 1950 you really know your stuff. Before that it is harder to talk about fashion. Not lot's of good books have been written on fashion history.

@fashionlover4

Жыл бұрын

True, that's why I tried keep it relatively brief

@gregorycomey

Жыл бұрын

I leave that to Gentleman's Gazette and VintageBursche

Honestly never subbed to a channel so quick I needed this thank you sir

My favourite show was when I was at Primark waiting in line to try on a £5 polo shirt where in front comes out a middle aged man who was forced to try on the exact polo I was about to put on by his wife with a crying baby dangling from her arms. Man could not be bothered and looked as if he wanted to die on the inside while bickering to himself and quietly to his partner. Those are the kinds of shows that I live for.

funny that heels werent actually invented to make people taller, it was a shoe designed for riding horses, first worn by very wealthy men only for the activity, later men would wear them casually to showcase their status and the fact that their passion was riding horses and that they could afford a horse. well they were actually adapted from ancient egypt i belive, at the time (as always) worn to showcase wealth, later also worn by married women to show that they were married

@fashionlover4

Жыл бұрын

You’re right actually I should’ve mentioned that instead of making you taller oops

Glad to see one of my favorite fashion youtuber gaining a bigger following

just to clarify, in ancient Egypt the concept of fashion wasn't present yet, exactly because nobody could really copy the monarchs and because of that nothing styles never changed within the 3000 years of ancient Egypt. fashion only began between the Middle Ages the modern period, because it bothered the monarchs to be copied so they changed their clothing periodically. so yeah, fashion wasn't a thing in ancient Egypt. great video tho.

what a video you do an amazing job explaining the timeline of menswear youre a goat forsure

wow really great video and really great information i can learn fashion more detail ! thank u so much

thanks for always providing some great knowledge within fashion man

Wow wow wow! Amazing video. Love your content

eyo thanks for making this! :)

Smart, opinionated, well researched. Subscribed!

Strange how something hits you in head 20 years later...

I don't know much about fashion, and unfortunately lack a sense of style that I cannot acquire (lol), but I love your videos because you reintroduce me to this art form in such a fresh and exciting way. I've watched every video you've made (well, listened while working on stuff) and it makes me pumped to engage in all forms of creativity. Keep making stuff bruh, hope this introduces you into the world of fashion beyond a commentary perspective (like, gets you a fully-fledged dream career in the field you're passionate about).

@fashionlover4

Жыл бұрын

that's really nice, I'm glad I can help in that way and thanks for the wishes, I'm also hoping this gets me somewhere in future!

Great video, got recommended to me randomly but I very much enjoyed it. Maybe some cuts were too fast paced but otherwise very interesting.

I’m glade I just stumbled upon this channel, keep a the great content 💪🏽

I'm sure it has been mentioned but need to confirm...That was Robert Rauschenberg on the CdG runway. one of the seminal figures for pop art. Love!!!

one of the most amazing video essays i've ever seen, great job bro

this video is fucking beautiful bro i love your writing big inspiration

Super well put together bro 10/10 work 🎉

Tisci at givenchy was game changing to me

Excellent video got me to subscribe

Amazing video bro!

Awesome recap on this interesting history

Thank you for this, great video

Good stuff! Used to work at Barneys at its highest point! Saw the boom in menswear and sold almost everything here to the fashion elite!

I'm not interested in fashion. But it's so interesting to see how a movement is bascally just an answer to another. And how ciclical things are. I wonder what comes next.

I read your content and how you talk about the world of fashion greetings Mexico

Bruh 40k subs I’m gassed for u icl lesgoooo

Do you have any long-form videos by yourself or colleagues you recommend on the history of fashion as a whole? Or an online lecture series? Love your vids ❤

i literally cried when the video showed the Carol Christian Poell ss2004

Dope video once again!

An excellent video. Though I would have to say Stüssy was the first streetwear label.

loved the video, please keep it up

I like your videos a lot. Good informative style and the guy seems nice.

HIP HOP designers like cross colors, Sean jean, fubu, Karl kani,roca wear…where REALLY the forefathers to hypebeat & held everything together in the fold between high fashion merging into street wear…from there “street fashion” was idolized and has transitioned into the culture

@YoogiNation

Жыл бұрын

He’s looking at it through a white lense. It’s like black people weren’t wearing clothes before Ye and Virgil.

@DarkMuj

Жыл бұрын

He’s talking about high fashion and mainstream fashion. Not hood fashion. Otherwise he’d mention Avirex and Jordache. Not to mention Apple Bottoms and Juicy Couture 🫣

@haventseenhim

Жыл бұрын

@@YoogiNation did u not watch the video. please find a single high fashion runway show prior to 2010s in which streetwear highly influenced almost all runway shows. you can’t because it didnt exist. yes niggas wore fubu and sean jean before the 2010s that doesnt mean that shit was mainstream in runway shoes. yall niggas say anything w/o using yall brains 🤦🏿‍♂️

great vid broski

Babe wake up fashionlover4 uploaded a banger

Have the same kiko hoodie, same color lol. Love the hoodie, love your video as always :)

“But what about (designer name)??” THIS VIDEO IS SEVENTEEN MINUTES

16:48 and Jerry Lorenzo even tho he’s not at a major house. U can say Heron Preston too

Personally I think that the better fashion period ever existed, for man, was the early twentieth century

Awesome video! Unrelated but I would love to hear your thoughts on the upcoming kiko x heaven collab. A LOT of people were not happy lmao (myself included)

@fashionlover4

Жыл бұрын

Lol I thought it was an interesting move but I’ll hold my judgement for when it’s properly released. I think it’s for the women’s line as well which I’m not as familiar with.

@josepholopez2072

Жыл бұрын

yeah I'll wait to see how it turns out as well. I wasn't super excited when they announced the hysteric glamour collab but some of the pieces were quite dope. In laura and deanna we trust!

@Devananta-Rafiq

Жыл бұрын

I shocked when I saw the announcement and immediately thinking what fashionlover4 would feel about this lol

should do one for the last few years. really interesting to look back on that. even every few months

@fashionlover4

Жыл бұрын

That could be interesting actually, thanks

no cause it's the fact that my school presentation starts the exact same way😂

WAKE UP BABE FASHION LOVER POSTEDDDDDD

Awesome video . I just wish you had mentioned armani and Zara as it is the most influential fast fashion brand in the world I would say

Tisci’s Givenchy show in 2011 was insane!!

What are you gonna do about the kiko kostadinov x marc jacobs heavn collab?

nice hoodie

What about Armani? Did he have no influence on menswear? I remember him being referenced a lot in sitcoms and movies...

People be gatekeeping this channel

great video but he forgot to mention the Rick Owens ss16 collection lol

there is a statue of beau in London in the handmade clothing district

whats the video playing in the background called at 7:19

Really loved this video but would love if you could talk a bit slower, I had some issues understanding some words ❤️

Good ass video great work!

My father worked in menswear for almost fifty years, from retail to covering 2.5 million miles as a commercial traveller. If you hear laughter on the edge of hearing, it's probably the old man looking down at today's fashion.

13:50 3rd model is wyatt shears 😍🥰for hugo boss

I love you fashionlover4

Do a vid about underground menswear designers as well

I think to talk about streetwear and not mention black/hip hop culture as a whole was a miss.

Amazing

great vid.

5:29 if they only knew how much a Ford Model T would be worth right now, but I guess you can say the same for any 1965 Ford Mustang

was gonna be upset if there was no hedi mention

Well done video

How do you miss out on talking about dapper dan.

What do you think of Haider Ackermann?

What is the name of the site at 00:35? Wanna read allat shit

it's funny how they like to use the argument that back then men used to wear nail polish, wear high heels, and wear color pink as an excuse to dress like the women today. Sure back then they wear these things, but now it's different, now pink are considered as feminine. So yeah, you are considered as feminine if you incorporate them into your style. like what? i'm sure if the the color pink back them are feminine, men back then wouldn't use them. do men back then wear dress with a corset? yeah, we just tryna be quirky.

Your almost too good at this

Hello, this was an entertaining video and I had a fun time watching it however, I think its missing two distinct players that should be essential in any list mentioning mens fashion. One is Jean Paul Gaultier's protege, maison margiela and the other more recently, marigiela's protege; Demna Gvsalia

@polkunus

Жыл бұрын

@mo2chvc demna is undeniably a key figure in shaping men's fashion. Its subversive and controversial. Just like when rei showed her collection in france and everyone thought it was trash.

I dont really see anyone wearing the newer fashion show stuff

I won't pretend that I know all that much, but I usually hear about Hiroshi Fujiwara as THE genesis of streetwear, and through him came Nigo and Bape which crescendos into the 2016 Supreme era