GFriend and Lovelyz have one thing in common: they were supposed to have a comeback this year but were forced to disband without a decent goodbye performance

@pheromone714

11 ай бұрын

Lovelyz has more descent closure than Gfriend. Lovelyz knew already that their Obliviate song was their last comeback and all of them decide not to renew(Aside from Baby Soul), Whereas Gfriend members was totally clueless...

@Siphonophr

5 ай бұрын

@@pheromone714Thats not true. Lovelyz wanted to make one last big album before doing more solo activities except there was conflict between the company and the members so in the end it didnt happen :/

I love them so much. Their discography is so, so good! My girls deserved much better. They didn‘t want to disband without a last comeback but Woollim did them too dirty… :( I‘m wishing the best for their individual careers. And for everyone who was about to stan Lovelyz: do it! Even if they‘re disbanded you can still see the girls together every now and then in live streams, pictures, etc. their bond and chemistry still goes on strong even if they won‘t release music as Lovelyz again any time soon. It‘s worth supporting the girls individually too.

@goeunnie4551

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully they can still make songs together in the future and that woollim doesn't copyright their name Lovelyz. Just look at 2am. Most of them took separate paths already and are in different companies but they're still making songs as 2am. They even had a comeback recently

destiny has not left my playlist since release, really hurts that lovelyz didnt get more time

@MidnightTheories

2 жыл бұрын

I was a casual listener of lovelyz but the chokehold Destiny had on me 😭😭 My favorite lovelyz track

@Pinkladyisv

2 жыл бұрын

Same! Wow! Ends up on my best played list every year.

Achoo is legit such a classic I still listen to it all the time and always find myself humming it throughout the day

Lovelyz was one of my ult groups, and it hurts that they disbanded…

@HOLLYNOELLOBO

2 жыл бұрын

Mine too

@kowalski2406

2 жыл бұрын

aww, i always try to look at the postive and i guess the positive now is that they can be more happier and free with their art.

@HOLLYNOELLOBO

2 жыл бұрын

We don’t have to create fanwars. You don’t have to like Lovelyz, but we were not hurting you by being sad Lovelyz is disbanded, and you were not hurting us by listening to BTS, so we can just peacefully leave each other alone, right?

@jksbutter5466

2 жыл бұрын

@@HOLLYNOELLOBO I don't think my comment is typed with an intention of initiating the fanwar but the majority of kpop fans neglect lovelyz so that's the reason why I label them as a random group. T_T

@hsuhorn

2 жыл бұрын

@@jksbutter5466 maybe because people still cared about the group and not all groups have to be large to have significance to people 💀

They were in the big 4 Christian Horse Girl Music groups IMO (the others obviously being Gfriend, Apink, and OMG). I listened to them so much in 2015-2017, still some of the best vocals of any large GG. Like all of my disbanded or inactive old favs, I hope they have a reunion eventually, but if not, I just hope all the members will be able to do what they love.

Sadly woollim is becoming a company that sucks at promoting their artists. THEYRE really good at making amazing music but without proper promo and funds (theyre clearly struggling with money rn) a group can’t do well. I’m really disappointed seeing the number of comebacks rocket punch has compared to other groups that debuted around the same time.

@basma7806

2 жыл бұрын

@James Henry Smith my point was that they should have so much more. They had 1 comeback and 1 Japanese release this year compared to drippin’s 3 + the universe release and golcha’s 3/2.5 since the promo for the last 2 comebacks were cut to 2 weeks. Idk if they released more but the only releases rcpc has is bim bam bum, juicy, bouncy, and ring ring + the Japanese release of bubble up that nobody noticed. They debuted in aug 2019 THATS NOTHING. Idk if woollim thought pulling a black pink was a good idea where they release v little music to build up hype but that doesn’t work if ur group isnt super popular to begin with 😭 their songs are all bangers but cmon now

@mariadiallo5786

2 жыл бұрын

@@basma7806 their Japanese debut went completely unnoticed. To make a comparison, ITZY recently released the Japanese version of WANNABE (not a new song) and it had a lot more exposure and recognition. LOONA also had a lot more recognition with their Japanese debut (Hula Hoop) than RCPC. Again, this is a matter of poor promotions and wrong timing. To expand their success in Japan, RCPC should try a sound similar to TWICE's later Japanese releases (from Breakthrough and onwards), at least in my opinion

I would love to see her take on Black Swan and their history

@nikkim119

2 жыл бұрын

ploppy did a two part video on that whole thing i’m pretty sure if you wanna watch that it’s wild

@samiawilliams9117

2 жыл бұрын

@@nikkim119 I know but I would love midnight theories take on it.

@nikkim119

2 жыл бұрын

@@samiawilliams9117 yeah true that would be interesting also

@samiawilliams9117

2 жыл бұрын

@@nikkim119 Most definitely, I hope she would consider doing it.

@OGseoulite

2 жыл бұрын

She already has

I've been a big fan of Lovelyz since their debut. The disbandment news was hard to take in as a long time fan. The news was up there with Gfriend since they were the first kpop group I saw live. I hope we get to see them perform as a group again in the future.

I'm so sad we never got to say goodbye to them... I've been a Lovelinus since their debut and they deserve way better than what they got.

The Lovelyz sound cannot be beat -- very pleasing to the ears and wonderful arrangements. When you watch their live performances, the *real* MVP's are the individuals on the live instruments.

"Woollim's CEO who was know to be committed to his artist" Hahhhhahahahahahahahahahaha 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 good joke

Woollim has the bad habit of not letting their group has a comeback in the year of contract renewal. Other companies will push for more activities and comeback before contract expires but Woollim does the opposite. Eg; Infinite who has 1 comeback each year didn't get a comeback in 2017, went quiet till 2018.

I came into Lovelyz around Destiny era and have loved them ever since. Management was really poor with them after their rookie years it felt like to me. Them going on Queendom I think was a good thing but to perform Sixth Sense was…. a choice lol just that their vocals didn’t really fit that type of song. Afterwards it took them forever just to release their EP while Mamamoo, AOA, Oh My Girl, (G)I-dle and even Bom released something relatively quick. It’s sad they disbanded and I thought they’d stay together longer like I thought Gfriend would. International fans really love to sleep on talent

@andredrw289

2 жыл бұрын

@James Henry Smith it’s like they had the popularity but needed that extra push

@vixxexo6855

2 жыл бұрын

@@andredrw289 I never thought Gfriend will disband right after «mago» that was their biggest hit internationally.

@andredrw289

2 жыл бұрын

@James Henry Smith who me?? Course I do

@shilo2972

2 жыл бұрын

I remember watching the episode where they picked to do sixth sense. I think the girls were nervous yet excited to do a concept so different than what they usually did. Even on the show you see where they have to ask their boss (dont remeber if it was the ceo or manager) if the were allowed to do it because the girls always wanted to try different concepts in their time as a group but the company wouldn't let them stray too far from what they started as. It's sad they weren't allowed to try more concepts even though they did great with the ones they were allowed to do. Hope all the girls are at least happy and healthy these days.

@andredrw289

2 жыл бұрын

@@shilo2972 and that was highlighted by Oh My Girl that they’re concepts are like super similar that they barely do anything different

I’m sad, woolim did not push they as hard as they should have and korea really does love to sleep on talent

@gwenmloveskpopcecmore

2 жыл бұрын

Yep they only care about everyone else and pushed them aside. I wish woolim would’ve pushed them enough for them to be a bigger GG. Sounds like something cube or mld would do. But we should thank Infinite & LovelyZ for making Them (the company) what Woolim is today. If it wasn’t for them, we wouldn’t have Golcha, Drippin, or Rocket Punch

@kyooongie

2 жыл бұрын

it’s not koreans, at least they have a solid fanbase domestically. it’s the international fans specially western kpop stans that ignore every girl group who aren’t from the big3/4 and especially if they do more cute and innocent concepts

@gwenmloveskpopcecmore

2 жыл бұрын

@@kyooongie yep unfortunately

@gwenmloveskpopcecmore

2 жыл бұрын

Actually they were popular in Korea it’s just they never got any popularity outside of Korea, as sadly most kpop fans won’t stan any gg who’s not from the big 3/4

@MidnightTheories

2 жыл бұрын

Through my research, Lovelyz was actually pretty darn successful domestically. I even mentioned this in the intro and outro

woollim is insanely incapable of maximizing their idols potential it should be an achievement. like imagine having THE most successful boyband at the time, and screw up so bad no one even talk about that boy group after only 5-6 years (inspirits this is not a shade, I'm one of you i promise. I think we can all agree infinite deserve more)

@sunfvalley

2 жыл бұрын

sorry I know this is about lovely and not infinite, but it's just mind-blowing how woollim managed to debut successful idol groups during their first try but just.. don't do anything to develop the members career?? like they expected the group to just stay successful without them putting any effort?

I was never a big fan of cute concept groups, but I still appreciate Lovelyz for their amazing talent. I watched their Queendom performance of "Sixth Sense" and while it didn't fully pull it off the way I wanted, I applaud them for stepping out of their comfort zone/image and tackling an incredibly demanding song. Netizens need to chill.

besides Achoo and Destiny, i hope everyone would listen to queens For You and Twinkle!! their discography is impeccable and theyre so talented 🥺

@twinkle1082

2 жыл бұрын

Twinkle is one of my all time favorite songs but all their songs aire sooo good tbh. Also their vocals are no joke

absolutely love this channel! Thank you for putting so much effort in to each and every video I really appreciate it!

@MidnightTheories

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching 🔮

I really appreciate how you made this video with a lovely vibe like Lovelyz. At first I though you're gonna talk about what went wrong when a lot of people voted for Lovelyz in one of your polls. I personally want to see that....someday. Their's actually a lot to talk about in the topic of what went wrong...with Lovelyz. I'm still suspicious of why Babysoul, the leader, is the only one who renewed. I still feel sad that they disbanded. I was hesitant to watch this but I did just to get it over with. They are the first and currently only GG I stan but now....they disbanded. I know some of them may continue as a solo artist but in my deepest heart....I want them to reform or atleast debut as a duo, thrio or something.

@MidnightTheories

2 жыл бұрын

I hope I did them justice with this video 🥺 I tried my best to put them in the best light and focus on how much they were dearly loved

I'm going to miss so much lovelyz! I've been a lovelinus since ah-choo era, I'm going to miss them so much! my bias would forever be lee sujeong, but I loved each member, I loved their concept so much, they we're so amazing!

waaitt if they were still a group I would of started stanning them 😭😭😭😭😭

@vinhrua1

2 жыл бұрын

You can still listen to their music and support the members. Btw the group bond is strong so there is possibility of them coming back again in a few years.

I think a vid on btob and how they took on the ballad to revive themselves would be a cool story. They’re chant goes “ btob doesn’t sell albums but emotions” which I think speaks a lot to their journey:)

I really loved lovelyz and did my best introducing them to friends, I wish them all the best, they will always be iconic!

This is well-detailed and informative unlike that other what happened video.

@melikesoysauce3430

2 жыл бұрын

don’t even mention that garbage

@bombituico

2 жыл бұрын

?

I really like internetsnathan. I’m even a patron for his channel. However, Midnight theories (you guys!) goes into so much more detail about these groups we have loved and lost. I am a huge fan of your work, and thank you for giving us accurate info chock full of detailed history. One thing people *cannot* say about you is you are lazy! You guys do hard work, and it shows. You have top-tier content, and I hope your channel grows and grows because you deserve it! ❤️🥰💯🌈

I would love so much if you would do a video about ELRIS 🙏🙏🙏 I admit that there's not much to talk about them since they aren't popular at all, didn't break any records or have any scandals other than one very minor one with member Sohee apologizing for debuting before the group itself back in 2017 I just want more exposure to them since even with being a 5 member group and adding 2 more becoming 7, didn't help and after February 26, 2020 they have had zero comebacks I love them so much and I'm afraid they will disband soon with no one noticing 😭😭😭

@gwenmloveskpopcecmore

2 жыл бұрын

Jihoon’s carat did a vid on them

@gwenmloveskpopcecmore

2 жыл бұрын

Apparently some of the members stopped tagging a few of their social medias which is a sign they’ve disbanded. Of course they could’ve been big but you know how Hunus/Stardom is. They’ve ruined potential for Topp Dogg & Evol. Yes it’s sad Elris had their potential ruined too

@Nebulox

2 жыл бұрын

😭😭😭I love them so much, I don't want them to leave, they could just leave Hunus and sign with better company

@Nebulox

2 жыл бұрын

That's good, at least some one is talking about them but it's been almost a year since her video about ELRIS

@gwenmloveskpopcecmore

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nebulox yeah true

gone but never forgotten, forever my queens

still hurting ... thank you very much for this

I already love you for making this.

I'm not their fan, but I must admit their title tracks were top-notch, I can sing all of them because I repeat it so many times It's so sad to see them separated like this

Thank you for covering the full history of my girls with so much care ❤ I really appreciate all the hard work you put in the research to do a great video!

@MidnightTheories

2 жыл бұрын

I hope I did them justice! I wanted to focus on how loved these girls were 🥺

@yunholover4516

2 жыл бұрын

@@MidnightTheories and you did! almost everything is in this video 🥺 Thank you so much

❤❤❤❤THX U FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO ABOUT LOVELYZ

Just as I was about to stan/get into them, they are gonna disband. that's so heartbreaking.

Soooo good, thank you for posting and making my day!

@MidnightTheories

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! You made my day!!! 💜🔮

This video makes stanning lovelyz much easier I think i will enjoy their sound Thank you so much for making this video I can't imagine how hard it must be to gather and organize this much information If it is something you are interested in, i woul love to see a video like this on Oh my girl

As always, an excellent bio.

Obliviate is such a good song. I would have loved to see them pursue the concept more

I love you for making this video 💜💜

i love them so much 😔 i wish i could have been a fan before their disband ughhhhhh

Watched their concert live twice, and showcase once. I must say that they're one of the best groups when it comes to live performances. I miss them.

Hi~ will always have a special spot in my heart.

they had a lot of potential. there were a lot of factors that affected their future success, but the competition during their time was strong. they were sort of going again groups like Red Velvet, Twice, and Gfriend who had almost a similar concept to them. even so, i always thought they had a pretty strong fandom.

i loved them since their debut and i can't believe that this group is gone ;;;

Every time you mention a new start for an artist in these type of videos I get anxiety waiting for the "but" and then saying something tragic happened but I'm glad that didn't happen as much in this video and that Lovelyz had a successful few years as a group :)

I’m sorry I’m late midnight but I’m always happy & excited when u post!!! Also I have a few of their Christmas/holiday songs on my Christmas/holiday kpop playlist!

@MidnightTheories

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for always watching 💜🔮

@gwenmloveskpopcecmore

2 жыл бұрын

@@MidnightTheories 😘❤️

@gwenmloveskpopcecmore

2 жыл бұрын

@James Henry Smith agreed

I'm glad that they are still friends, I liked the group a lot and I'm sad that they disbanded, also comming from a rainnous.

woah amazing video! i rarely like to comment on youtube videos, however you’re literally one of the best kpop channels right now! you always seem to put so much effort into your videos and i never get bored while watching them! i usually struggle with focusing on one thing at a time and easily get bored, but i’ve never had that experience with your videos! 💓 thank you for this great video about lovelyz! as a lovelinus, it made me very happy 🥰

@MidnightTheories

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! This made my day 🔮💜

@sunmirage

2 жыл бұрын

@@MidnightTheories aww no problem! 🥰 i’m glad to hear that!

@sunmirage

2 жыл бұрын

@James Henry Smith yes i totally agree! i also stan gugudan ♡

@sunmirage

2 жыл бұрын

@James Henry Smith what? that’s such a weird thing to say. i’m christian but i am also a fan of kpop. both can coexist

You can't deny that the industry is different becuz of their existence. So, even if they're gone, they still left their mark.

Always love them 💗💗

Yeah, last year was a strange time when three giants in the girl-group stage just ended. With IZ*ONE at least we knew it was coming, but GFriend and Lovelyz was sort of out of no where, especially if you weren't following the rumor mill and news outlets so closely. On some good news, 2021 saw the return of Brave Girls, the rise of aespa, and arguably was the year of TWICE. But yeah, losing three big groups like that was a massive blow.

its clear that none of them want to disband since some of them still using lovelyz name on their social media and some others keep saying that they're not disbanded but i feel like the company dont want to give them full support anymore hence why they left the company. eventhough none of the members or the company confirmed that they're actually disbanded i feel like there wont be any possible comeback atleast for now. i just cant see another company willing to support the group post 'disbandment' since they're not big also since their original company clearly dont want to do that on the first place 😭

i'm so excited to see where mijoo goes from here

Lovelyz were my 2nd ult girl group after Red velvet. They might not have been an obvious choice for many as most popular SK girl group but they were actually big in sk. I feel sad that they didnt even get a chance to release atleast a farewell single. Woollim sucks.

I came to kpop right around Obliviate so this was nice to get a history of the group. Best of luck to the ladies on their future endeavors

can you please talk about ukiss, tinyg and c-clown and other gen2 groups were mistreated and failed?? please i have been asking diff channels to do so for over a year but never did :(

I know il late but seeing this make me cry cause my girls deserve soo much and i wish wooollim treated them better and they would have still been together i miss my girls together 😭😭😭😭

Achoo was the song that got me into not only them but Woolim. I pay attention to that company because of the group. They quickly became my ult group along side Gfriend, 2ne1, 4Minute, SNSD and Oh My Girl for helping me with my depression. Hurts to see them disband but I wish they all the best of luck

as a long time inspirit i'm just happy most of the members are freed from woollim now😭 that trashy company is so messy they are just lucky they manage to hire talented ppl who cna capture attention without the company pushinh them enough

i was listening to obliviate some days ago and my mind was completely lost on which song it was. i didnt realize until the chorus. it felt like i lost my memory for a sec when not remembering it

Baby Soul- stranger is a great song

Hello Midnight Theories . Might you please do the history of Nu'est?

Tbh, I haven't heard of Lovelyz until I watched clips of Queendom. It's sad to hear the news. They were amazing.

i found out about them a week after their disbandment :( it was such a shock to me to find out but oh well i hope one day they can all get back together for one last time and make an album i'm sure everyone misses everyone after-all they've spent 7 years together

I remember when they came out with the song goodnight like yesterday 💔

Super! Very nice!!! ❤

OMG LOVELYZ!!

Gone but not forgotten.

I only started following Lovelyz after Queendom. This will sting for a while. Just right after GFRIEND disbanded, too.

lost n found is always in every single playlist i make, it hurts they had to disband without more time ):

My loves :( ❤ Wishing the best for the girls moving forward I also think it's important to note that Yoonsang (the man who co-wrote their early title tracks, such as Candy Jelly Love, Hi~, Ah-Choo, Destiny, WoW!, and Now We) is himself a famous singer-songwriter in Korea, so it made Lovelyz somewhat notable from early on in their career. I feel like we have to thank Yoonsang and his writing partner Space Cowboy (as well as his other collaborators Davink, wan9u, and Shin Yumi who helped write a ton of Lovelyz songs) for giving Lovelyz their iconic and familiar sound.

Being a lovelinus was the best decision I ever had

@Iqballinlyz

2 жыл бұрын

" If you wanna~ Lovelyz~"

i would’ve definitely ended up stanning if they hadn’t disbanded :(

my forever ult

thanks didn't know the story of this girl group

Forever lovelinus 💟

I have been following Babysoul since 2011 and lovelyz since their pre debut Era. As a longtime fan, I have seen them grow big and bigger and can guarantee you that they are one of the most talented artists out there. So, I was very disappointed to see them disband like that without the proper respect that a successful artist like them should have got. Though I still follow all of their works and will keep doing that always. Also, woollim needs to treat Babysoul better❤

Lovelyz "Hi" was my favorite

Lovelyz was a beautiful group that failed to reach its potential

Thank you

one of my favourite girl group.... i luv them..

Yeah i remember people worried for the girls performing in winter season with short skirts and light jackets

Lovelyz were my ultimate group

Been a Lovelinus since their debut... Woollim really did them dirty. I was hoping for a comeback that year but instead, it was a disbandment...

My Ult Girl Group of all time. Was and always will be ❤❤

I knew Jiae from RunningMan (E98) since then always following Lovelyz till their disbandment :( Lovelyz popular in Korea but not in international eyes because their music concept and also their company not big like another company. Lovelyz members want to experience and try something new to learn but struggle to keep their concept that company want. Until the end of contract Lovelyz still struggle with company even when they want one last final album before disbandment the company disagree. I got mixed feeling.. I kind happy to hear Lovelyz member went separate way to pursue their own dream, but also sad no longer pure and innocent concept girlgroup as Lovelyz anymore...

missing lovelyz D:

kei is already tried musical via the midnight sun this year

Would you please look into making a Secret video, I wonder what happened to them all the time

THEY DISBANDED ??? i had alr listened to all of their music and was just abt to get into the members and then i see this😭😭

@gwenmloveskpopcecmore

2 жыл бұрын

Yep unfortunately. the only member staying in the company is BabySoul however she’ll be going by her real name. Pls support their individual careers

@sheluvshouyo694

2 жыл бұрын

@@gwenmloveskpopcecmore thats so sad to hear- i’ll support them as hard as i can !!!

@gwenmloveskpopcecmore

2 жыл бұрын

@@sheluvshouyo694 thank u

im so heartbroken they disbanded:(

In my opinion... Woolim is the problem, woolim may have great idea/concept /music type for their group, BUT! in term of PROMOTING each of them are the major problem. 1) During infinite promotion for "The Eye" things becoming chaos when Hoya choose to discontinue the contract, it maybe normal at first but if I pay more attention it seeems that Infinite individual promotion being neglected. 2. Despite debuting many rookies since 2020-present (Rocket Punch, Drippin, Eunbi) tbh all of them are off from the radar, Even Eunbi Debut only hype in the beginning state only and after that woolim just let it go without any explanation. 3. Golden Child may being most busiest group on Woolim. unfortunately... they are lack of any promotion activity aside from performing their comeback song! I mean.. give them variety show or any content on social media or let them have individual actuvity Since GolCha already in their "sunbae phase" in woolim! 4. At last...IF woolim can taking care and see potencial in lovelyz i think Woolim should send them to debut in japan, since lovelyz concept/image is more friendly to asian region especially Korean/Japan rather than U.S/Europe So... yeah thats why i thought when i see this devastating news... i just want the girls feel free to explore their talent after this chaotic situation 😔

@Ciel363

2 жыл бұрын

agree with all your points, especially point number 2. I don't know why they like to debut new groups, but they just let it go, no effort at all. they like to destroy the hype of their groups.

@andreabenita1004

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ciel363 seriously at this point i really shock when i see how Rocket Punch, Drippin and Eunbi as rookie being promoted...like...dear woolim, give them more publicity pls! It such a shame that i love woolim music/mv vibes but the promotion is being too limited for All of them 😐 i even just know that Eunbi have Her fandom on random post from YT Short/IG Reels not from official news

Twinkle is best winter song.

Please do GFriend too. 😭

I don't know if someone pointed it out but at 9:55 when you're talking about their pre-release track shooting star it actually plays twinkle in the background :D but it's fine, i love both songs

I feel like they never actually reached their potential

It's too bad they couldn't release their final album as a goodbye token for fans

💔😢

Can you do the group Speed

1. Destiny 2. That Day 3. Ah-Choo