Finally got it done. Enjoy!

@tylerandreasen3078

Ай бұрын

You forgot to put a colon between "Americas" and "Every" in the title.

@chemputer

Ай бұрын

@@tylerandreasen3078 Admittedly, not an English Major, I studied something actually useful most of the time, but is a colon actually necessary there? ChatGPT says no, and it reads fine as is for the intended meaning.

@C.O.B.R.A.-tu9dl

Ай бұрын

Hi Tigerstar! I just wanted to say, amazing video! But there are a few corrections: Rhode Island had always banned slavery Segergation map slightly off I don’t think California banned conversion therapy

@tylerandreasen3078

Ай бұрын

He already fixed it.

@newlineschannel

Ай бұрын

Thank u lil bro 😮

Little Connecticut up there acting like we wouldn't notice that it had segregation laws on the books until 1964.

1:38 Brazil: "Yea gays are fine, so is slavery"

Mexican here (sorry if my English is bad lol), even though Mexico had very advanced Civil Laws, almost none of those laws were actually enforced. Mexico had a neofeudal sistem all the way until the 1910s, the current democratic government (wich dates to the 1920s) just recently had their first real democratic elections in the year 2000, and homosexuality was criminalized by local police all trought the past century. It's important to take this kind of nuances into account when seeing this kinds of videos.

@gabe5225

Ай бұрын

U have gay marage

@bg1052

Ай бұрын

Yeah, a lot of these videos only show what was on the books and not if it was actually enforced. Can't blame them as going into whether certain laws were actually enforced year by year would be a whole new level of digging into historical sources, but still. It is important to acknowledge that what was on paper wasn't always reality

@thenoobcannon9830

Ай бұрын

It's a concept we Anglos struggle with. The notion of local police enforcing a ban on something not prohibited at a national level is rather odd.

@capsaicin938

Ай бұрын

based mexico not enforcing these laws

@TheJosman

Ай бұрын

​@@capsaicin938 we do now, though. It was the 80s when discrimination laws began being enforced. Society still shunned some things until the 2000s/2010s when societal shifts happened again.

60-70s latam speaks a lot. Where the color of universal changes from *blue to red*

@berabingol3231

20 күн бұрын

That was mostly because of the endless amounts of US-backed military coups and the consequencely installed military dictatorships.

@IsaacPrinTheNerd

17 күн бұрын

Yeah, you really just have to wonder what was the common factor behind these quick policy changes. It's almost like there was a concerted effort to change these areas into something more conservative during that time. But who would back such efforts, both politically and militarily, during the height of the Cold War?

French Guyana in the 19th Century be like: - Can we be gay and not die? - _Oui_ - Can we have a vote on that? - _Non_ _You just got Franced_

@stepanotrisal1512

21 күн бұрын

That might actually be preferable for them, given that when gay issues are put to the ballot, it usually doesn't end well for the gay side.

@AlexanderofMiletus

19 күн бұрын

Why we need to subject them to a democratic vote

@SouvenTudu1

11 күн бұрын

What?😂🤣

Props to that one uninhabited Island in the Canadian Archipelago for Universal Sufferage in 1910 Edit: Yes,I know that Island was Norwegian

@EmperorTigerstar

Ай бұрын

That was when Norway claimed those islands, who adopted that in 1910.

@RS_mapper

Ай бұрын

its norway

@tylerandreasen3078

Ай бұрын

@@EmperorTigerstar One little thing, you forgot to put a colon between "Americas" and "Every" in the title.

@Uebeltank

Ай бұрын

@@EmperorTigerstar I genuinely thought that was a really weird mistake.

@Toblehrone

Ай бұрын

@@EmperorTigerstar I'm Canadian and have never heard about that.....legit sounds like an interesting thing to learn about 👀

Controversial Comment

@bruhz_089

Ай бұрын

Uncontroversial reply

@SomeGuyFromMalta

Ай бұрын

That's Insane

@Leonardo_Mantovani

Ай бұрын

Unhinged take

@brokencreativity7266

Ай бұрын

Something something based

@Jesus_Nazareth

Ай бұрын

Man, you should be ashamed of yourself 😢

Props to the furry emperor for making a map that includes the entirety of the Americas. The map community has a strange fixation on only making maps about Europe and the US (and sometimes Canada and China).

@calebr7199

Ай бұрын

"the map community" you can just say reddit, lol

@Iawait

Ай бұрын

​@@calebr7199 ******Biased christian white men is a better description of creators of maps in the internet

@user-zy8cy6hn6o

Ай бұрын

To be fair most people on the English speaking internet are likely from the USA or Western Europe. Maybe you just aren't looking at a lot of content made by Latin Americans?

@lewakar

Ай бұрын

If there's a map for furry's rights

@aballer2809

Ай бұрын

Tigerstar ain’t a furry

Two things to pull from this. Mexico's problem has always been corruption, not freedom. Second, thank god for Earl Warren.

@stephenLarson-vs7fu

24 күн бұрын

Of course, Japanese-Americans would not have said that in 1942, since he vehemently supported putting them in camps.

Seeing all the recent progress in lgbt rights really puts things in perspective. It's genuinely insane how there were places in the US where homosexuality was completely illegal when most of us were alive! Makes you realize that history is not just about old civilizations and wars, it's also about the decisions being made today. Decisions that will be talked about and remembered for generations to come

@iandavidvillaloboswong5180

Ай бұрын

There is constant pressure coming from the U.S so that influences it. The current U.S embassy woman in my country is constantly trying to tell us what to do, even in elections. Its quite irritating, I imagine its a similar story worldwide. And some are easier to convince than others.

@getaids7099

Күн бұрын

The decline of the civilization is seen with the legalization of gays, you reterd

Operation Condor, when most of South America turned red during the 70s. You can thank Nixon for that one.

@augustwolf_2256

29 күн бұрын

Don't forget about Kissinger and his role in it either...

nobody asked but incase you were interested the reason why Canada didn't have universal suffrage until 1960 is because any first nations and indigenous people who lived on reserves, were not allowed to vote (non-reserve indigenous people could, but is tied up with the forced assimilation that the Canadian government was attempting to do) Also the reason why Quebec and ;Newfoundland and Labrador have different times for the adoption of female suffrage is that until 1948 Newfound land was a separate entity from the rest of Canada but a part of the British Empire as a Dominion for a period of time. Quebec on the other hand was extremely culturally conservative for the time with the addition of the Duplessis governments during the 30's to the late 50's Quebec largely did not become a secularized society till the quiet revolution. So women were not granted the ability to vote in provincial elections , but could vote in federal elections until 1940, thought Quebec did not have a single female member of provincial parliament until 1961 largely coinciding with the "Quiet Revolution'.

In the case of Argentina, the map is correct in that the slavery was officially abolished in 1853 by the creation of a new Constitution (which, with many ammendments, is the one we have today), but at that time there weren't that many slaves. Before that, in 1813 there was an assembly that established several things, including "freedom of wombs" (children of slaves would be automatically free), and freedom for any slave that entered the territory (i.e. banning the import of slaves). And while the country in the first half of the 19th century didn't have a centralized government, those declarations were more or less respected. So, I believe in the map Argentina should be orange from 1813 to 1853, and maybe yellow.

@EntrerrianoMapper

Ай бұрын

Was about to comment that. Very inconsistent from ETS

@federicomarintuc

Ай бұрын

Came here to say this. Many cousins of my grandmother were actually sons and daughters of the slaves my great-grandfather brought from Brazil and were freed upon arrival to Santiago del Estero and given his surname

@nombreartistico91218

25 күн бұрын

Argentina is the best country in the world🇦🇷

I really appreciate the many written notes you included. Very good resource, the best always point to their limitations instead of ignoring them. Good stuff!

So much has changed in my life-time already. It will be really interesting to see what maps can be drawn in 30 or even 50 years

the data for Brazil is kinda wrong, indeed in 1831 by the law of feijó barbacena it was declared that all Africans brought to Brazil after its enactment would be considered free. However, enforcement was lax, and those responsible for enforcing the law were often the same individuals profiting from the slave trade. As a result, the law had little practical effect. Something that verify this is that in the 1840's was the peak by number of african slaves coming to Brazil. The slave trade only stopped after pressures from the Uk by the Bill Aberdeen act (which created diplomatic issues between Brazil and the United Kingdom), and only in 1850 that Brazil definitely banned the slave trade, by the Eusebio de Queiros law.

@HeitorS.-dh2wl

Ай бұрын

The law even created an expression to Brazilians at the time, something like "for the English's eyes", meaning "pretending to do something just to get someone out of your back". Very few people use it nowadays though

@bobettethedestroyerthebuil1034

Ай бұрын

Its arguable the slave trade only truly ended when slavery ended, a few ships still slipped by towards the end of the

@FOLIPE

20 күн бұрын

Illegal slave trade still happens today, and it doesn't mean slavery isn't illegal in Brazil or anywhere else

I love how Mexico passed a Anti-Discrimination law earlier than the United States...

@Aecrim1

Ай бұрын

I mean it was kind of logic, Mexico is already a diversified country by its core while US was mostly white ruling

@calebcorrea7556

Ай бұрын

Mexico just elected a woman as their first president as well. In the United States that is looking pretty unlikely that it is gonna happen anytime soon.

@Jesus_Nazareth

Ай бұрын

@@calebcorrea7556 Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, etc. A lot of Latin America countries already had women as their leaders.

@jesuspompa6031

Ай бұрын

Mexican here (sorry if my English is bad lol), even though Mexico had very advanced Civil Laws, almost none of those laws were actually enforced. Mexico had a neofeudal sistem all the way until the 1910s, the current democratic government (wich dates to the 1920s) just recently had their first real democratic elections in the year 2000, and homosexuality was criminalized by local police all trought the past century. In comparison to the United States, I would argue that after the American Civil War the United States surpased Mexico in terms of Civil Rights.

@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986

Ай бұрын

Implying anybody in Mexico actually obeyed the law 😂

A good reminder that gay rights didn’t start with Stonewall nor do the history of american gay rights apply to the rest of the world. That little yellow dot in south america in 1791, that’s France decriminalizing same sex relationships. Yep.

@AlexanderofMiletus

19 күн бұрын

France gay confirmed

Whoa wtf this vid is surprisingly new?? I came to the comments to give feedback then saw "5 minutes ago" lmao. Nice! Still, Brazil gets marked as orange starting 1831; I'm guessing that's because of the Feijó law passed partly due to pressure from the British, yes? Still, despite the law being a thing, it was really never enforced and effectively only banned imports from Africa directly to Brazil afaik, and imports were still being made through Africa -> someplace in South America -> Brazil. I think depicting that by making Brazil be stripped red and orange would be interesting! Imports were only banned *for real* in 1850 with the Eusébio de Queiroz law. And that was all I could catch! Outstanding video!

@abdulwasilabib16

Ай бұрын

reupload i ges

@wuzzle22

Ай бұрын

I think the video is more concerned with what was De Jure on the books, not De Facto on the ground If it was De Facto on the ground it'd be way more complex and bleak

@Wahrheit_

29 күн бұрын

​​​@@wuzzle22 Yeah, like there weren't slaves in argentina de facto since 1813 due to the law of wombs, and there should've been notes about certain governments, bc there were a lot of dictatorships in the 20th century in latam explaining why these countries went from yellow to blue and then to red and to blue again

@wuzzle22

29 күн бұрын

@@Wahrheit_ Again, I think the video is more concerned with what was De Jure on the books, not De Facto on the ground Plus, I think the viewer can figure out what happened on their own in terms of dictatorships

I love that Brazil was like, "start freeing slaves? We might as well let people be gay!" and then just did that.

Such an interesting concept for a map video, thanks Emperor!

With suffrage, is it right to include countries that nominally allow for voting, but in reality, the government manufactures the results? Venezuela in particular doesn't afford anyone the right to vote for representatives, even if people are able to cast a ballot.

This has been one of your most interesting maps so far. Would love to see the same of more regions!

Can’t wait for more historical content from this channel!

All your map vids are great! Though your best videos are the every day war maps, hope to see more of those! Especially 20th and 21st century wars

This is so well made, such an underrated channel.

The penguins of South Georgia deserve a voice!

@hafda010

Ай бұрын

@LiterallyMahiroOyama Why do you think that

@everythingpizzaandknuckles6268

28 күн бұрын

​@@hafda010 This guy is a troll, ignore them

Now let Luz Noceda and Amity Blight have their wedding!

@everythingpizzaandknuckles6268

Ай бұрын

@@jeffreygao3956 Disney would never 😔😔😔

@MrAlegeniale

Ай бұрын

Fun fact: The Owl House is dubbed to Spanish in Argentina, the first South American country that legalized same-sex mariage nationwide in 2009.

@jeffreygao3956

Ай бұрын

@@everythingpizzaandknuckles6268 The Banner of the Mouse?! They know less than Jon Snow when it comes to quality! They film next to gulags and call Cruella misunderstood! Their Mickey Mouse Protection Act is but the ultimate symbol of their madness! They even dare to have John Ratcliffe slandered when he was the one offering gifts and buy that sleaze bag John Smith’s biased account at face value! Checkmate…Igerites?

@elijahjp2158

29 күн бұрын

I see that we have a fellow Owl House fan here!

@jeffreygao3956

28 күн бұрын

@@elijahjp2158 And still waiting for the Banner of the Mouse to apologize to Terrace the Terrific! They robbed us of a ballet episode along with Luz calling Edalyn Mommy, Vee apologizing for supplanting Luz, and Camila breaking Odalia’s everything.

Three maps in one, nice

Doesn't make much sense to put "limited male-female suffrage" during the Estado Novo while putting "little to no suffrage" during the military regime. They were both dictatorships that pulled of said rights in practice

@lucasm.bmarochi4779

12 күн бұрын

o mapa que ele fez não mostra o estado dos direitos de facto apenas de jure por grande parte da ditadura militar o cidadão não havia direito a voto nem na lei ja vargas simplesmente não realizou eleições mas manteve o direito na lei

Very interesting video

Thanks for making a map that includes south america :D

En Argentina sucede que en 1813 se declara ilegal la esclavitud pero debido a las guerras civiles, anarquias provinciales y no existir un gobierno nacional simplemente no habia constitucion

@megustaelmate5499

Ай бұрын

Se declara la libertad de vientres, donde hijos nacidos de esclavos eran gente libre. Igualmente desde tiempos del Virreinato del Río de la Plata, para tener un esclavo tenías que cumplir con las demandas impuestas: - Que tenga cama y techo. - Comidas diarias. - Una recompensa por su trabajo. - La garantía de que no le ibas a hacer ningún daño físico. En caso de que un esclavo sufriera algún tipo de daño por parte de su dueño, el esclavo podía ir a denunciar el hecho y el dueño perdería el beneficio de poseer esclavos. Mientras el esclavo sería re ubicado en un lugar donde cumplan con sus demandas. Igual tomemos en cuenta que las actuales provincias argentinas que conformaron el Virreinato del Río de la Plata tenía a la Ciudad de Buenos Aires como principal economía, y los esclavos eran más usados para trabajos de campo. Por eso Montevideo y Rio de Janeiro tenían instalado el comercio de esclavos y era donde llegaban más, mientras que a Argentina llegaban pocos porque en la ciudad no se los consideraba necesarios.

@a.j.c.908

Ай бұрын

No, en 1813 se declaro la libertad de vientres y se empezo el proceso de abolicion, pero la esclavitud no fue totalmente abolida hasta 1853. El mapa igual esta mal.

@VictorBillordo

Ай бұрын

​@@a.j.c.908 también con respecto a la votación, ignora totalmente la ley Sáenz Peña, que hace el sufragio casi universal, los términos para cada país son diferentes, capaz si sólo se atenía a hacer solo el mapa de USA capaz era mejor

Chile started gradually abolishing slavery in 1811 through the Libertad de Vientres, through which the children on enslaved people would be free, though slavery was abolished outright in 1823 as it is pointed in the video.

2:18 Who was the first country in the Americas who gave universal suffrage? Norway. For the exactly 0 people who lived there.

@uniqueegmd

24 күн бұрын

uhm actually there are 3 polar bears living there

Point of note for decriminalization or legalization of same-sex relations: effectiveness varies wildly. Sex acts between two people of the same sex in private was legalized in Canada in 1969, but overall arrests of people on the grounds of homosexuality increased afterwards. People continued to be arrested for 'public' homosexuality (including non-sexual acts, like kissing or hand-holding, or sex acts that occurred in private buildings that had three or more people present) as that was both still illegal and easier to prosecute. There are records of such arrests up to 1988.

Its crazy that dame sex marriage wasnt legal here until 2015

@eatinsomtin9984

28 күн бұрын

Yup, should never have been legal

@zuarbrincar769

24 күн бұрын

​@@eatinsomtin9984 🫡 +respect

@solscobl

23 күн бұрын

​@@eatinsomtin9984 Why?

@eatinsomtin9984

23 күн бұрын

@@solscobl Gods Law

@sTas073-i1e

20 күн бұрын

@@eatinsomtin9984 I don't care about your god, don't shove your religion down peoples throat

I would like to take a moment to salute the brave moderator of this comments section

@marceltelang7825

29 күн бұрын

emperortigerstar o7

So… what’s going on with Paraguay? Why the limited suffrage?

Ooh it'd be cool if you did one of these with speed limits! Like im the same vein as the timezone video.

Schools for Native Americans arent always a good thing (i’m talking about you, Canada)

@cornpopsyum

Ай бұрын

pretty sure they weren't a good thing in the US either lol

@C.O.B.R.A.-tu9dl

Ай бұрын

@@cornpopsyum i mean atleast they weren’t expiermented on

@kenos911

Ай бұрын

@@C.O.B.R.A.-tu9dl ... yes they very much were

@C.O.B.R.A.-tu9dl

Ай бұрын

@@kenos911 only in the Canadian schools

@TheJosman

Ай бұрын

Some Latin American countries had Native "schools" (if you know what i mean) and it isn't shown here. Also, even though countries like Mexico, Colombia and Peru didn't have "residential schools" designed exclusively for Natives, to access education Natives did have to learn Spanish and western culture in order to fit in/to not be discriminated against. Bicultural and bilingual education for Natives is fairly recent. Throughout the 20th century, Native acculturation was the norm in all Latin American countries.

What means the suffrage scale? Like, I understand: - Little/No Suffrage: No elections or few offices with direct elections (like Brazil in 1964) - Limited Male suffrage: Vote by class or race - Near Universal suffrage: Vote not allow for illiterates?

@angusb99

Ай бұрын

In the US, the right to vote is withheld from felons. So technically, the right to vote in the US has never been completely universal.

@jackyex

Ай бұрын

In the military dictatorship, Elections where still held, but the elections for executive positions in the state (governors) and the presidency where indirect. The congress and the municipalities had normal elections, they used other methods to keep their majority, like an electoral college, and letting muktiple people of the governing party ARENA dispute mayoral elections while the opposition MDB could only one.

@Argacyan

Ай бұрын

@@angusb99 I'm not a legal expert, but around 6 million people actually lost their right to vote permanently in the US for past convictions, with Florida being around a quarter of that. I think that's significant enough, around 1 in 20 people in Florida permanently disenfranchised, that it should at least be mentioned. Then again, the same problem exists for other things too here.

@diamondgirly2126

Ай бұрын

@@Argacyan This is a good thing, however.

@aAtom596

Ай бұрын

@@diamondgirly2126 No it’s not

What's the story behind that random arctic island with universal suffrage?

@capsaicin938

Ай бұрын

That island was claimed by Norway, which itself was one of the first ever countries with universal suffrage

Really interesting map

I feel there is a significant lack of representation concerning universal suffrage in Mexico during the years 1910-1940, commonly referred to as the "revolutionary period". During this period, many social causes became more prominent, and groups pressured their state governments to stop "exclusionary" practices and ensure greater democratic participation. For example, in 1916 in Yucatan, the feminist movement under the auspices of the first feminist congress of Yucatan gained significant strength, and by 1923, they achieved state recognition of women's suffrage, inaugurating three of the first female deputies in the country's history. Other states followed, such as Chiapas and Tabasco, which granted women the right to vote between 1925 and 1930.

1830 was an important year in Brazil when our emperor Dom Pedro 1 abolished sodomy laws.

@k.umquat8604

29 күн бұрын

The Ottoman Empire unbanned homosexual relations in 1858.

@Argacyan

28 күн бұрын

@@k.umquat8604 I was actually curious about that topic now & spent a minute or two reading a bit into it. From what I could find in terms of information: While pre-1858 there were by some definition laws against it, those laws were little to entirely un-enforced. The definition of homosexuality was also different from western legal codes. In a twist of fate, while 1858 marked a theoretically more liberal law change, the 19th century also saw increased enforcement & harsher definitions of what homosexuality actually means. The law change was seen as technical decriminalization in private, while posing otherwise a harsher ban beyond that. At least according to what I found online.

Who else needs to watch this video at least 3 times to follow?

Never expected Paraguay of all places to consistently be behind.

@iacobibrasiliensium2139

Ай бұрын

Give them a little break they been through a lot...

@Orlando_P

Ай бұрын

The "guerra de la triple alianza" Killed nearly 90% of his young men, any non reproductive action will be luxury more than any other place. And still they don't recovered the numbers at all.

@theuniverse5173

Ай бұрын

Common Paraguay W

@braziliantsar

Ай бұрын

​@@Orlando_PThat is actually a myth and the real number is likely waaaaay lower than 90%

La Asamblea del Año XIII de las Provincias Unidas del Río de la Plata (Argentina) dictó la libertad de vientres en 1813. Es incorrecto el primer mapa.

Paraguay still not having anti-discrimination laws, universal suffrage, or same sex civil unions in 2024:

@MegrelMamba

Ай бұрын

Why are people surprised that most naitons don't follow the liberal democracy norms?

@extazy9944

Ай бұрын

they are still cooking

@xXxSkyViperxXx

Ай бұрын

@@MegrelMamba those people are self-absorbed

@MegrelMamba

Ай бұрын

@@xXxSkyViperxXx But western city bubbles aren't?

@xXxSkyViperxXx

Ай бұрын

@@MegrelMamba what do you mean? it depends on the person

Great video! Though I think the United Provinces of the River Plate should maybe count as "gradually abolishing slavery" since 1813 when a law established that all children of slaves would thereafter be born free; but I don't know which criteria you used for that category, so I could be wrong on that.

Wait I thought this was the. Old video Welp I guess it is nicer seeing newer info

Is there a site somewhere that expands on the terminology you've used? What does "Limited Suffrage" mean in this video? (I realize that historically there have been limits based on property-holdings, age, marrital-status, "literacy-tests" that functioned as racial barriers). What's the difference "Slavery Banned by Law" and "Gradually Abolishing Slavery"? Upper Canada, for example "banned" slavery in 1793 but did not actually emancipate any slave already living there, but is coloured "slavery banned by law" in the map.

Good video.

Argentina during XX century: 🔴🔵🔴🔵🔴🔵🔴🔵

Hispaniola allowed gay people bvefore everyone else interesting

@everythingpizzaandknuckles6268

Ай бұрын

Hispanolia is a W for that

@brianbrady139

Ай бұрын

if you look at Europe, Catholic and romance nations on average did not have anti-sodomie laws as compared to their northern and protestant counterparts, it was still socially unacceptable but you would not go to jail or be chemically castrated for it so it probable tied to that heritage of the region.

music?

Awesome vid! From 🇧🇷.

That War of the Triple Alliance really did a number on Paraguay, huh?

I feel like some of it is simplified outside of just borders. Like the 13th amendment to the US constitution legalizing slavery as a form of punishment even while prohibiting it outside the penal system. You can call it not eliminating a problem entirely, but the "entirely" there is doing some heavy lifting for what is otherwise partially-legalized slavery which was followed by what has been exhaustively analyzed as a period of over-incarceration of the groups of people who were overtly freed into that penal-slavery system.

@EmperorTigerstar

Ай бұрын

That's merely forced prison labor. Slavery takes it further and implies flat out legal ownership of a person, which prisons technically do not do.

@Argacyan

Ай бұрын

@@EmperorTigerstar In overt terms that's debatable, but in plain text the amendment overtly states slavery or involuntary servitude are excepted as punishment for parties duly convicted in those terms. Using the term "slavery", even if this openly implies legal ownership can be sanctioned. I can link to the text of the amendment if necessary.

@EmperorTigerstar

Ай бұрын

It's specifically the involuntary servitude that is excepted for prison labor, not slavery. That's how it's worded. Slavery *nor* involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime.

@Argacyan

Ай бұрын

@@EmperorTigerstar Section 1 is: "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction." Idk if you intended to write a second "nor" into that or not.

@everythingpizzaandknuckles6268

Ай бұрын

While I agree that prison labor is questionable at best, it's rather foolish to debate a historian on whether it should legally be considered slavery or not. I'm nowhere near Tigerstar's level of historical knowledge, but even I know that, at least legally speaking, the two are not the same. Edit: also, did you just not read the "as a punishment for a crime" part?

In Mexico, LGBTQ rights remain a complex and challenging issue. While same-sex marriage is legal and permitted, there is still significant bureaucracy, especially in states like Guanajuato, Aguascalientes, and Queretaro, where civil unions have not yet been performed. Regarding conversion therapies, although they are now illegal nationwide, many states still resist banning them. In my home state of Guanajuato, these therapies are still entirely legal, and the state government has refused to prohibit them. I understand that the map indicates their theoretical illegality, but it's crucial to provide this context. Mexico remains a conservative country in many areas.

Why is Paraguay green even to this day?

Cool but definitely one of the messier more confusing videos in a while. I think the conversion therapy colour should have been a darker purple or something. The chevrons were really rough. I'm also not sure what limited suffrage male/female always means. It seems to cover limitations on race, and class? The islands in the Caribbean could definitely use a legend or zoomed map area because they have A LOT of granularity and are some of the more interesting holdouts but very very hard to see on the map. It's also too bad the map doesn't show the interesting fact that gay marriage was legal in California for a few months in 2008.

With the assembly of the year XIII in Argentina, the slave trade with foreigners was prohibited

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but what’s the difference between “limited male suffrage,” “limited male/female suffrage,” and “universal suffrage?” Is that about racial voting rights?

@thegreatteaman

8 күн бұрын

It might vary. In some places it might be about racial voting rights but in other settings it might be about certain classes. For example in the earliest days of the U.S. only white men who owned property could vote, which effectively meant that only upper class men could vote.

@user-tx8rr7ew2f

5 күн бұрын

It depends. In my country (Brazil), illiterate people couldn’t vote until 1988, for example. Other criterias, such as race and income were also a thing in other countries.

Reminder the spanish didn't have segregation laws

@capsaicin938

Ай бұрын

Hispanismo basado

@nouhowlmao2809

Ай бұрын

They literally had castes much like india

@LSeba91

Ай бұрын

not having segregation laws doesnt mean they didnt enforce a caste system

@TheJosman

Ай бұрын

​@@nouhowlmao2809 they served more like admixture classifications though. Like terms to describe how much Native/European/African DNA someone had. And it wasn't really enforced, a wealthy Mestizo could define himself as "White". Not to mention that wealthy Native nobles (like the Moctezuma family) enjoyed a better lifestyle than a poor Criollo farmily did. However, the Spanish Empire was no "equality paradise" like some Spanish Empire lovers say it was. But for its time, it was better than most places when it came to the treatment of others (discrimination did occur, though).

@nuqjatrh

Ай бұрын

blanqueamiento?

Also, in the case of Hispanic America, I think the period of independence wars and the early years of independent republics/monarchies should be highlighted in orange from at least 1810. In many places, the first congresses formed abolished slavery from the outset (this excluding the legislation enacted in Spain that greatly limited the practice and prohibited the importation of more slaves). For example, in Mexico, the first general governing council, led by Miguel Hidalgo, abolished slavery in 1810. Later, in 1813, this was reaffirmed in the Congress of Anáhuac during the issuance of the "Sentiments of the Nation," the first legal acting document with constitutional powers signed in the nation (excluding the Constitution of Cádiz promoted in Spain, which interestingly had similar views on slavery). In the independent Mexico, the legislative bodies of each state made slavery illegal before it was universally abolished in 1829.

The map is good. But i do have some nitpicks, specifically about Brazil, the first abolitionist law was signed in 1871 (Law of the Free Birth) that's where should start the gradual abolition of slavery, also in 1885 the then provinces of Amazonas and Ceara fully abolished Slavery, so i do think they shoukd be highlighted in green in 1885. Also I do think that putting Brazil in little to no suffrage in 1964 until 1985 is a mistake, in Brazil Legislative Elections and Municipal ones were still held, and the Military didnt really change the numbers muchs as they tried to pretend democracy, and ysed other methods "within the law, like gerrymandering and an electoral college to keep their majoriity in congress. I do think a new category should be created or then place it in partial suffrage as you can argue that many of the opposition had their rights stripped but the majority still could "vote". Also in 1951 a law against racial discrimination was created, "Lei Affoson Arinos".

Were the burgos laws are?

@xxx_mussonet_xxx9419

27 күн бұрын

Es gringo, no esperes que sepa mucho.

The slippery slope is undefeated.

“The Arc of the Moral Universe is Long, But it Bends Toward Justice.”-- Martin Luther King Jr.

I believe Kansas gained limited female suffrage in 1861. Otherwise, great video!

Mexico: ...Maybe it was a mistake encouraging youse to live in Texas. Y'all keep talking about taking it away from us... American Settlers: So whatcha gonna do 'bout it? Take away our freedums and libertays? Mexico: Take away the slaves American Settlers: 😧😧😧 ........ 😠😠😠

@everythingpizzaandknuckles6268

Ай бұрын

And it's still a sore spot for the south over 150 years later 😔😔😔

@TheJosman

Ай бұрын

Mexico did enslave Natives though. But government authorities never used the word "slave" to describe the Mayans sold as "workers" to Cuba so it wasn't considered to be slavery.

@deltharion

Ай бұрын

@@TheJosman Those practices were also illegal though. The problem was that many entrepreneurs and elite members found ways to evade the consequences

@iandavidvillaloboswong5180

Ай бұрын

​@@TheJosman All enslavement of the natives was illegal. Anyone who did that was simply going against the law just like you can move 100 tons of hard drugs from Mexico to USA and some guy 500 years in the future wont say that it was a common occurence.

@SoryRN

Күн бұрын

@@TheJosman It was still banned and enforced which is why immigrants from usa even rebelled

Paraguay and Guyana, we need to have a talk…

Utah banning conversion therapy is a surprising but not unwelcome W

@Twinkiepower420

Ай бұрын

Mormons are very image focused and want to be seen as “hate the sin not the sinner”. Despite its supermajority Republican legislature it’s fairly pro gay, pro migrant, and pro refugee, at least in comparison to other red states. It’s also got a libertarian streak to it like much of the west so even the non Mormon conservatives are a bit less inclined to care. On the individual level, I would not wanna be gay in Utah, but there are worse places

@everythingpizzaandknuckles6268

Ай бұрын

Utah is one of the most confusing states not only in terms of its politics, but just in general

@thomasrinschler6783

Ай бұрын

Sam from Wendover did a video on why Utah is so weird that way. kzread.info/dash/bejne/f5OJwdSznLm8lKQ.html tl;dr: Mormons may be conservative themselves, but since they come from a history of intolerance towards them, they tend to be more lenient towards others facing intolerance.

Didn't Argentina have free wombs since 1813? Also I'm pretty sure they had stopped importing slaves too. Good video nonetheless but I'm not sure that you got that right.

I'm sorry but Argentina is wrong about democracy and slavery: male partial democracy, slave trade prohibition and no new slaves laws started all in 1813 (which is basically the reason for independence). The last slaves died around the 1840s and full male democracy started in 1914. Then, the 20th century is a little more complicated with all the CIA backed coups...

Curious to see that the U.S. was sometimes later than its southern neighbors to adopt a more progressive stance on these issues.

@bigeboye6000

Ай бұрын

The US is almost always slow to adopt more civil rights post 1800 or so. Several reasons behind this like a federal system being more resistant to rapid change (for better or for worse).

A note: Slave imports were banned in Chile in 1811 (freedom of womb), though with the Spanish Reconquista in 1814, it went null, Argentina did so in 1813, Uruguay in 1830

Loving these new policy related maps

@lucaslima9792

29 күн бұрын

​@LiterallyMahiroOyamaYou bait is very weak

Wow i did not know Brazil was that late to abolishing slavery

@Adsper2000

20 күн бұрын

They had a coup over it too.

De ja vu - I could have sworn you already made this one. Nvm, it was one just about North America.

What about civil wrongs?

@MrFreakHeavy

Ай бұрын

Now listen here, buddy--!

@logica_1989

Ай бұрын

You're forgetting about Civil Lefts.

@peterroberts4415

Ай бұрын

Only net taxpayers should vote (aka no government workers, politicians, or anyone receiving more in welfare than they pay in taxes) maybe? an exemption for the military

@TonboIV

29 күн бұрын

@@peterroberts4415 Well yes, that is definitely a civil wrong.

@shinsenshogun900

29 күн бұрын

How about Civil Neutrals?

I appreciate quite a lot the way that the video is made! Great stuff, as always. I get that this may be because of simplification of the concept, but I would like to add that in terms of female voting rights, Chile had two phases. In 1935 (if I recall correctly) it was legalized for municipal (local) elections, while the date of 1949 shown in the video is when presidential (and national) voting rights were granted. On the other hand, if you reaaaaaaally wanna go that way (which I don't), the dictatorship "granted" universal suffrage for the plebiscites of 1978, 1980 and 1988, although of course the first two elections were rigged, and on the third the communist militants were not allowed to vote, as its party was still legally banned until 1989

3:13 I love how Illinois became the first yellow state (on the right). Our state is buult different

@Barqop

Ай бұрын

It sure is...

Wish these were also available independently; my eyesight isn't that great - I can't read the text.

3:13 what the hell is going on in south America?

@jeankhast

25 күн бұрын

You can thank US for that.

@edneydenis7856

18 күн бұрын

Guerra Fria e o medo americano de ter uma nova Cuba. Vários governos com tendência marxista foram caindo.

The Assembly of the 13th Year (1813) in Argentina banned the traffic of slaves and also gave freedom to the descendants of slaves. By the 1853 constitutional ban on slavery it was almost non-existent

Despite the ideologies and some policies need to be implemented in all countries (even if you don't like it), watching this video is so awesome and it shows how amazing is the mankind itself

isn't the "conversion therapy" label backwards?

This music was so perfect. Just the hope for progress in the future but the sadness of current state for each year... So many generations, so many lives, born and lived and died, under such universal oppression. We owe it to our kids to take not one step back.

@everythingpizzaandknuckles6268

Ай бұрын

Things have gotten significantly worse for queer people these past few years (and for cis women thanks to abortion laws), but you're right; the future will only see more progress.

Oh god damn it Paraguay..

Aqui no Brasil, a abolição foi abolida completamente em 1888, mas antes disso haviam 3 províncias (atuais estados) em que a escravidão já era ilegal: Amazonas, Ceará e Rio Grande do Sul.

nice

*2024* "Is changing gender on ID allowed here?" Most US states: "Of course! :D" Montana, Oklahoma and Tennessee: "Well, you see, sweaty..."

For slavery, you got Argentina wrong. It should be orange/yellow since the Assembly of 1813. And for suffrage, it was universal for men since 1912 and for women since 1946

I think an important one would be if interracial marriage is allowed. Also, I think "same sex activity" is different than "being homosexual". In some countries, it was forbid to be homosexual, even if you didn't perform any homosexual act.

But Emp, you made a pretty big mistake here... The 13th amendment only made CHATTEL slavery illegal. Slavery as a punishment for a crime (and thus slavery in general) is still legal in all 50 United States to this day...

@braziliantsar

Ай бұрын

Going to jail is not slavery

@AhAh-ni2cb

Ай бұрын

@@braziliantsar forced labour in jails is

@legofanaditya

29 күн бұрын

dejure slavery was banned in Western nations throughout the 19th century, but say the US-defacto slavery like Convict Leasing and Debt Peonage persisted until in Dec 1941, FDR, worrying about Axis Proppganda, had a Circular issued which would enforce federal persecution on slavery. They did a pretty good job. Still, the last African Americans emancipated were in 1963!

I think just a slavery map is a bit misleading. Brazil did indeed have slavery until 1888, but Brazil also had equal rights for black (free) people way before (early 1700s I believe). So while in one scale this is right, in the other black people did have rights, could even own slaves of their own (and some did), and pardo people were even part of the elite.