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@JohnQPublic11

3 ай бұрын

I’m not a mountain climber; but I’ve read my favorite book “White Spider” 4 times. What disappoints me more than anything is that nobody has taken the time or effort to recreate the 1938 climb on film in a documentary recording each phase of the climb so that we may experience the original climb of the Eiger through the eyes of someone actually on the mountain. If you could make that happen it would be great.

@RonaldSimkin

3 ай бұрын

I think the confusion could be as simple as the government there thinking of the Hilary Step as a geographical location on the mountain, rather then a couple of specific large bolders. "The Hilary Step is still there, but the new route is to the right of the old route." Or one could say from this idea that the Hilary Step just got easier because the bolders are gone....

@colmhauser9532

3 ай бұрын

Lhakpa Rangdu's photoset for the NTB from 2017 proved conclusively it's gone.

@EverestMystery

3 ай бұрын

@@JohnQPublic11 Great book! And great idea about the Eiger climb in '38. I'm happy you've found the channel!

@woofmeowackwoof3810

3 ай бұрын

Like the guitar

Technically it's not "gone" it's just in a different location lol

@hb1338

3 ай бұрын

It may not longer be intact, in which case it will be in a number of different locations !

@521cjb

3 ай бұрын

Some tourist took it home as a souvenir.

@Oakleaf700

3 ай бұрын

That's so true about it not being technically ''Gone'' I remember reading that matter can never be destroyed, just transformed into it's basic atoms. Hillary Step is still on Everest, somewhere. It's a shame that Everest is so 'populous' now, and so littered with human bodies and oxygen bottles and human waste. {Even though Sherpas are paid to carry it down....}

@thrilledorkilled4958

3 ай бұрын

At the base camp. You can climb it there.

@Oakleaf700

3 ай бұрын

@@thrilledorkilled4958 Haha! Very good

Anyone who is shocked that a government would lie once or repeatedly has a LOT of reading and living to do. History (not the revisionist kind) is a great teacher.

@cameleonfleuri

Ай бұрын

You are absolutely right!

@sparkykitty6870

5 күн бұрын

Amen

If a Sherpa says it is gone, and look! here is the boulder, I believe him. It's their mountain. They know. And you can see that the path changed shape.

@EverestMystery

3 ай бұрын

Absolutely! Lhakpa was totally adamant about it....

@oahuhawaii2141

16 күн бұрын

@EverestMystery: You should've taken several overlapping photos around and above the boulder and have a reference scale in the images, such as you or your Sherpa. That'll allow specialists to construct a 3D model and compare it with the Hillary Step. Of course, we don't expect the rock to be intact and match perfectly.

@oahuhawaii2141

16 күн бұрын

BTW, the government in Nepal should haul the boulder down to KTM and set it up as a tourist attraction. Even unfit tourists can climb it to pose for pictures. As for the geographic feature that's left where the Hillary Step was, it can be called Hillary Stoop.

@kaywaits4616

14 күн бұрын

I’m no expert nor mountain climber, but my eyes tell me that it’s gone. The pictures clearly show the topography has changed. Why the lies is beyond me because Everest is still there to climb with or without the Hillary Step. I would tend to think it is a better deal as anything that assists to make the ascent and descent most especially, easier would be welcome. This just might save a few more lives.

"Because it isn't there."

@JohnBernardon-py7wf

3 ай бұрын

Good one!

@loveofit6498

3 ай бұрын

well played

@Oakleaf700

3 ай бұрын

That's pretty good!

@annvassallo2604

3 ай бұрын

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

@johnred7792

3 ай бұрын

😂

The Hillary Step disappeared a long time ago, I now realize. Hillary and Norgay both carefully described their journey to Life magazine just a few days after they returned. They found a sheer rock face that seemed impossible until Hillary discovered a chimney on the side. Squeezing into the chimney, they shuffled their way up. That was the Hillary Step in 1953. To say that mountains change is an understatement. My grandfather was sent to Canada by a coal company to investigate the Frank slide in 1903. Both my parents were raised in those mountains. The highways there constantly warn of falling rock. The Sherpas would know that avalanches change the mountains. I think he was pulling your leg to say, " That rock came from there." As to the position of the Nepal government, Why not? We live in a world of denial and propaganda and a population that feeds on it. Nepal will bleed every dollar it can for as long as it can.

@ACshinealight

3 ай бұрын

Great post

@goldbug7127

3 ай бұрын

thank you.@@ACshinealight

@creid7537

3 ай бұрын

Interesting story. However, something doesn’t add up to me. My 85 year old father was born in 1939. My grandfathers were born in 1914 and 1915 respectively - both died in their 90s. So, if your grandfather was sent to Frank in 1903 to investigate the slide, you must be about 140 years old now, or older. Pretty cool 😎

@davidpnewton

3 ай бұрын

@@creid7537 your arithmetic is seriously, seriously deficient. Someone investigating an event in 1903 could easily have been roughly 30 years old, so born in about 1870. One or more of their children could easily have been babies or born after that investigation. Up until about 1910 would be standard. Then that person born in 1910 could have had a child at about the age of 30: in about 1940. Said person could easily still be alive now and thus the claim would very much be true. Do try and do your basic arithmetic correctly: it'll make you look much less silly if you succeed.

@Nuttyirishman85

3 ай бұрын

If the trajectory makes sense, it could be the step.

The highest hill I ever climbed was the Food Lion parking lot - but even I can confirm - The Hillary Step is definitely gone.

@femalearmyveteran6906

3 ай бұрын

Lol this made me chuckle 😂 I haven't heard 'food lion' in years! especially when if any, a hill is in a food lion parking lot.. it's Abt an inch high 😂😂

@Gizziiusa

3 ай бұрын

you mountaineer you. what kind of equipment do you use to traverse it ?!

@Mike_Baldwin

3 ай бұрын

@@Gizziiusa You need a beer belly and one of them motorized go cart buggies with an oxygen tank. Minimum.

@Gizziiusa

3 ай бұрын

@@Mike_Baldwin Ahhh, the "Geriatric Golf Course Setup" Duly Noted.

@bctesla

3 ай бұрын

@@Mike_Baldwinthat’s funny 😂😂😂

I think anyone with a goal of getting to the summit would not have the Hillary Step being gone change their mind about doing it.

@angelabordack

3 ай бұрын

I have to agree.

@AlexanderNixonArtHistory

3 ай бұрын

I just changed my mind about it. I was thinking of maybe summiting one day. But without the good ole Hilary Step, what's the point?

@RedDawnAviation

3 ай бұрын

Perhaps it should divide the people who conquered Everest into two categories those the had a deal with the Hillary step who are non-trying forever and those who don’t have to deal with Hillary Stepp, who had an easier climb concept thank you for your video very informative based on the pictures I do believe that the other stuff is gone however, if I was inclined, declined the mountain that wouldn’t change my mind

@kathyinwonderlandl.a.8934

3 ай бұрын

Right it wouldn’t make sense to them

@hb1338

3 ай бұрын

@@AlexanderNixonArtHistory As the man himself said "because it's there".

There is no doubt it is gone. Everest is a great climb for those who wish to summit. The Hillary step falling off takes nothing away from that. I would say more individuals could possibly summit because the Hillary step was a very dangerous place. Nepal would make more money because most likely more will try to summit IMO. This has been a great video and very informative.

@ACshinealight

3 ай бұрын

Great point Katherine

@sjb3460

Ай бұрын

The Step is an infamous bottleneck. Many people have died waiting on others to summit and return the same route. If it is gone, then maybe more climbers will be able to find an up route and a down route.

Ya... Not going now that the Hillary step is gone... of course, I wasn't going before, either! I enjoy your channel. Keep it up, amigo! SF.

@EverestMystery

Ай бұрын

LOL, love it, and THANK YOU!

They talked about the Hillary step being gone after the quake in 15, and you could see it was gone in pics back then.

As a lurker on this channel, I'd just like to say thank you for the amazing content as always! It's so informative and easily understandable for someone like me with little mountaineering experience.

@Muslim_Momma

3 ай бұрын

I thought the collapse of the Hillary Step was fairly common knowledge. I remembered it was covered extensively - at least in the U.S. - when it happened. Lots of climbers interviewed talked about how much easier the climb is after the collapse. I’m not at all into climbing, just mildly interested in climbing on Everest as many are.

@EverestMystery

3 ай бұрын

Much appreciated! I'm glad you are here and glad you took the time to let me know

With the Step being on the Glacier in front of the Lhotse Face it makes it a hell of alot easier to climb, That in itself would be a tourist attraction.

@OttoByOgraffey

3 ай бұрын

*a *lot. Two words.

@beeweb1137

3 ай бұрын

@@OttoByOgraffeyMuch like the Hillary Step, Something occurred to my missing space in between to where it is no longer there.

@matthewcollins5344

3 ай бұрын

@@OttoByOgraffeyYou ever get sick of correcting people🤷🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️. Better the OP dgaf😉

@cavalieroutdoors6036

3 ай бұрын

​@@OttoByOgraffeyIf you're gonna file through KZread comments just to correct people on that mistake, you've got alot of work ahead of you

@beeweb1137

2 ай бұрын

@@OttoByOgraffey Thank you for pointing out my space bar missed a cue, I am glad you can feel halfway validated by doing so.

It sounds like if the experts say and show it’s gone, then it’s gone and there’s perfectly good evidence as to why. The government saying it’s still there is perhaps due less to their interest in prospective climbers and more to the devastating loss of the esteemed historic name and landmark. It perhaps lowers the country’s status in their own perception of how the world values them.

@oahuhawaii2141

16 күн бұрын

The government in Nepal should haul the boulder down to its capital city and set it up as a tourist attraction. Even unfit tourists can climb it to pose for pictures.

Not surprising that something was changed during that terrible earthquake! I was in Langtang in about 1993 with my dad and was so sorry to see the pictures of it completely covered after the earthquake. You can't control Mother Nature. I'm grateful for your report and love your videos!

@stonew1927

3 ай бұрын

I was in Langtang in February 1990. There really wasn't even a village there. Just a tiny hamlet, a few scattered stone structures where the local families lived. Same further at the head of the valley, Kyanjin Gompa (?). I was surprised to read and see reports of so many people killed and how large the village had grown. I'm grateful I got to trek and experience the valley in it's pristine beauty. So sad about so many people perishing there years later.

@bctesla

3 ай бұрын

You two were there . I will just listen .

@mtngrammy6953

3 ай бұрын

(Just to point out, the earthquake took place in 2013, not three years after 1990.). Did you happen to visit the old Lama who lived in the little stone shack with his wife high up on the hillside? I can never forget his smile that was like a ray of light, but happened so fast that you couldn't get a photo! One of the highlights of that trip.

@mtngrammy6953

3 ай бұрын

Oops, 2015, not 2013.

What this does is make climbing Mount Everest just that bit more achievable. As you've said in many of your videos, a lot of people have met their maker on the Hillary Step. The last difficult push, and one of the more difficult points of the entire climb, before the summit. Now it's gone, won't that encourage more inexperienced climbers with more money than sense to attempt the climb? I can understand Nepal's reluctance to admit it's gone on that basis. Great video! Really enjoyed hearing and seeing the clear evidence that a legend has been assigned to memory. Gone but never forgotten.

Glad you covered this topic! Thank you!

Thanks for posting this . Grateful for people like you!! Happy to find your channel

This is fascinating. I am not shocked that the earthquakes in the region, that the topography has been changed, but the "cover up" is just amusing. On another side, I would love to hear something about how the descent works. I know that their is a specific mindset/pattern to the ascent, but you never hear much about the descent. Thanks for sharing this Thom. Great information as always.

@hb1338

3 ай бұрын

Many more people die descending from mountains than ascending them. The main reason is gravity - slipping or stumbling on the ascent usually just slows you down for a short time, whereas losing your balance when travelling downhill can very easily lead to an uncontrolled fall. Other factors which makes descents more dangerous are fatigue and complacency, thinking that the difficult part has been done.

@JohnBernardon-py7wf

3 ай бұрын

Because the descent kills everybody. There’s no one left to talk about it.

@JohnBernardon-py7wf

3 ай бұрын

I guess my own personal act of courage was being an avid fisherman for 60 years without ever having learned how to swim. I used to tell everybody that it didn’t matter to me because the water temperatures that I fish in we’re enough to kill anybody whether you could swim or notI. You know -- cod, pollock flounder, whiting, black fish, all of them cold water fish.

@EverestMystery

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and for the question about what it's like descending.... From the summit Lhakpa and I were back at Camp 4 in three hours flat....

@chucknorris277

3 ай бұрын

@@JohnBernardon-py7wf nobody cares

Amazing content. It is clear from the photos that the Step is no more. Thank you for your clarity and lack of “filler”. Straight to the point. Nice.

I got so frustrated with the conflicting stories that I finally got up from my easy chair, grabbed my coat, and went up to see for myself. Yup, part of it is gone, but most of it seems intact, albeit somewhat more fragmented than before. And thanks for sharing this (seriously).

Im not going to make a judgement (yet... just at 4:20 rn) cause I am not an expert at all when it comes to mountains or mountaineering. But I cant understand why people put feelings over reality. Im not necessarily speaking about the Hillary Step, but about Pluto. People tried to keep Pluto as a planet, although the facts are clear, its not a planet. Why reject reality? I think I will never understand human behaviour... EDIT: Great video! Just one small tip: I was jumping back and forth between 12:48 and 14:00. For somebody with no expertise, it would have been more clear if those pictures had been shown side by side or right after eachother. The sharpie markings really helped a lot though! And to answer the question left open in the original comment: Yeah, I think its gone.

The Chinese have nicked it along with Irvine and the camera

@poutinedream5066

3 ай бұрын

Zactly. That's a rock that'll never be found. They probably ground it up into fish tank pebbles or something. China be on some shit nobody else even thinkin about. They took that mf, who knows why, and yes, they will look you dead in your face and tell you you're looking at something that clearly is not there.

@vahgeuvje10

3 ай бұрын

Lol

@donaldcook3112

3 ай бұрын

. . . And they’re busy copying it - and planning to have (re)installed on any mountain that’s got the ‘white stuff’ to make it ‘look’ … ‘just like Everest’.

@TCK-9

3 ай бұрын

Xi has it in his garden.

@Skankhunter420

3 ай бұрын

China has the camera

Outstanding video per usual

Wow nice sharing 👍

Thanks for the video. I had missed this.

I would still climb it. The Ice Fall takes top prize for the most treacherous section climbing up to the summit of Everest. But the Hillary Step is in its own right, equally treacherous, given the fact that climbers at that point are far more exhausted, and have been up in the death zone for many hours, trying to navigate difficult terrain.

@Amanda-uc5jq

Ай бұрын

But which is worse on the way back down, when they are even more exhausted? I dont know how they do any of it, I’ll stick with just a few hours hiking at a time without snow thanks.

Thank you again sir for the great content. I viewed the interview with Sir Edmund on the link you provided. I could see right away that he was so humble just like you. Your respespect for others is awsome. Thanks again.

There was a big puddle outside my house yesterday. Now it's gone and not a word from the government. Not A Word...🤣

@maxr.mamint8580

2 ай бұрын

Ever find out who took it?

@joemtnclimber793

Ай бұрын

@@maxr.mamint8580 the government of course lmao

Absolutely love your videos!! Fantastic content! Love it love it love it

Great video and it's confirmation for me 😊

0:25 you know what's annoying, few people capture the view looking straight down, as in this image. so we rarely get a sense of how dangerous the route is

@aleisterlavey9716

3 ай бұрын

Oh that route is easy peasy lemon squeeze, I could do that in 20 minutes. If you'll excuse me, I'm out of breath from walking to my car. 🤣

@EverestMystery

3 ай бұрын

I really should have put more of that footage in, it's crazy how much exposure there is, right? Thaks for watching....much appreciated!

@dumbcat

3 ай бұрын

@@EverestMystery was not trying to criticize you. sorry. i've noticed this in nearly all of the videos i've watched.

I’m not into mountaineering or hiking but man, is this interesting. Thank you for the content.

It's definitely gone. I paused at the 2 comparisons and looked at the surrounding rocks. To me, i can see that it's gone. I'm into rock hunting, and looking at rock formations is how rock people find things. One of the Grand Tetons lost part of a face a couple of years ago. It was what the locals called the sleeping woman's face. You can find pictures of the before and after on social media. I would still go climb Everest even if though the step is gone. I would like a rock from Everest too. Don't know if that's allowed. I've readed up on some of the rocks on Everest. I think the yellow band is interesting. This is an interesting topic. I didn't know that the government there was saying The Hillary was still there.

@EverestMystery

3 ай бұрын

Really glad you took the time to watch...and interesting about the sleeping woman's face of the Tetons... Rocks from Everest: I have a bunch of bags of cool rocks, and specimens from the Yellow Band, and one from near the summit on the north and south. I got the one on the south, Renan Ozturk got the one on the north for me.

@M00N.L1GHT

3 ай бұрын

@@EverestMystery~ that is so cool! I love rocks too. Thank you so much for your very accessible, interesting, and informative content. I love your respectful vibe and am so glad to have found your channel!

@oahuhawaii2141

16 күн бұрын

Take home the boulder that once was the Hillary Step.

Interesting video, new to the channel, I had no idea that this had happened, but I must say, although is "sad" that the step is no longer there, it should make it less complex to summit. As you said, mountains change, is impermanence of nature. And you can see the change in the photos, the government should not worry about this issue, a climber will go to the mountain, no matter what.

00:19 What a beautiful still captured here ~!! I watch so very many of these mountaineering videos and have never seen this~!! I've never been able to imagine or "picture" the concept of just how steep the mountain is in parts. This is thrilling already~!!

@EverestMystery

3 ай бұрын

Thank you very much! I'm glad that you're enjoying the video....and that you took the time to share your thoughts :)

While not a climber, I did some free climbing as a teenager. I didn’t know about the Hilary step falling. I think it’s amusing that the government is denying it. 😂 I don’t think it being gone will make a difference in someone not choosing to climb. I do think it will make it safer though. Even I know the step is a huge bottleneck. Great video!

As with millions of others, hearing about the 2015 earthquake inevitably leads to genuine questions about the integrity of the mountain and any significant changes to the Everest terrain. As Thom Pollard correctly suggests, surely certain leaders in the Nepali government have genuine concern regarding lost finances and fear people will not want to climb Everest due to this significant change. It's not as if climbing Everest is any less challenging now that the Hillary Step is gone. For most, getting to Everest and attempting a summit is a lifetime dream. Hillary Step or not, being able to summit and survive the descent must be life transforming.

I have heard about your trip to Everest for years. I had at least one of your kids in class at KHS and I think it was the year you did Everest. Thanks for the video.

@EverestMystery

3 ай бұрын

That's very cool, small world!

I don't know about the Hillary step, but one thing I do know is your place looks nice and cozy with the fire in the stove!! ☺

Great video, subscribed

Love your ending statement! 👍❤️

Great video! New subscriber here from lake winnisquam! Made me feel at home when you referenced the old man in the mountain! I’ll never forget staring at it when I was a little boy hoping to someday stand on top of it! Love the information you’re sharing thank you so much!

@EverestMystery

3 ай бұрын

Howdy neighbor, thank you for the subscribe! I'm glad you enjoyed the video.... Yes indeed sad about the Old Man of the Mountain. Cheers and thanks for watching!

My Mount Everest was a 3700 foot mountain in the Adirondacks of New York. It is called Debar mountain. It was in the summer and we sweat our asses off going up but when we reach the top it was freezing up there. Our greatest hardship occurred when we ran out of insect repellent half the way down. The mosquitoes and black flies had us for lunch! We were covered with bites with blood, running down the sides of our heads from the blackflies. That was the extent of Mountaineering for me.

@EverestMystery

3 ай бұрын

Ever read Thoreau’s Maine Woods? The black flies are REAL, drive people to complete insanity and there’s nowhere to run. I love the Adirondack’s. That’s where it all started for me, along with the White Mountains of NH. Thanks for watching!

@sisterpamop

3 ай бұрын

They are miserable. I got black fly bites that took over 6 months to heal.

Just have to look at how unstable those 2012 pictures look! Surprised 'the steps' lasted so long in that position! Yes lost snow after the earthquake but fresh rock face says it all. Trust the climbers - its gone!

Amazing video. Truly incredible that no Matter how many summit Everest we all Still insist on knowing every detail so intimately what is it with mountains and human beings wishing their conquer ?

I've been debating for years about climbing Everest. Being 65 and a heavy smoker who is afraid of heights the Hillary step always scared me. Now that it is clearly gone I'm going to climb it next year, should be a cakewalk. Wish me luck 🍻

Hold on... You are the Gentleman that discovered Mallory!!!!!😮 My orignal thought was, this is the face of a man that has seen his share of stuffs. I wish i would of read your Bio sooner.. You are a History Book 💪

@ohsweetmystery

3 ай бұрын

I thought that was Conrad Anker.

@leinonibishop9480

3 ай бұрын

@@ohsweetmystery wasn’t just one guy, was a team of ppl, and this narrator was the cameraman on the team.

@LadyGwenuveire

3 ай бұрын

Yes, he is Thom Pollard and the man is a living legend but he is too polite to say anything. Go watch NAT GEO’s Lost on Everest. Thom is in it. He is also in other NAT Geo films. Dude is a LEGEND!! He was part is the team that discovered Mallory’s body! L-E-G-E-N-D!!!

Mount Everest is such an eyesore on the sport of climbing.

@M-dv1yj

3 ай бұрын

Climbers are the issue. Not mountains . Selfish entitled trash (the climbers )

@laurieb3703

3 ай бұрын

All the magic has been sucked out of it 😔

@humboldtharry1289

3 ай бұрын

Seems like it’s time to give this mountain a break. Tons of trash and bodies litter the place all for bragging rights that have become meaningless.

I was reading a Reddit post about some guys account of the difficulty of certain sections on Everest. He was there after 2015. One thing he said that took me by surprise was “the Hilary Step was a cinche”. I hadn’t heard the rumour that the step was gone. Now his comment makes so much sense.

@EverestMystery

4 күн бұрын

You might have seen my post on Reddit. Thanks for watching !

Crazy Fact: Alan Arnette was on the mountain during the famous earthquake and was actually around the same spot where you saw the bolder later on. If it's true that's what you saw, I'm glad the step didn't hit anyone.

@EverestMystery

3 ай бұрын

Yes, that is true....I honestly wish I'd left it in, somehow I drop chunks during the edit. I also edited out a clip from Dumb & Dumber about when the cop pulled them over and he asked what those five empty beer bottles were between them in the Shaggin' Waggin, and they replied 'that's nothing sir', lol

@GrumpyKay

3 ай бұрын

@EverestMystery Yeah I was curious about if him being there would make it in, but since it's more about The Step, I understood why it wasn't. But the sherpa who pointed the rock out to you was new info for me and crazy info if it's true! Which I think it could be because I think the Step is sadly, gone. I sat down and did a side by side with pics and you could see the Step is clearly gone. It doesn't make Everest less appealing. Maybe a little easier, but every part of the climb and the journey, maters. Even the walk to base camp. And anyone who makes it through the Kumbu ice fall has my respect. That thing scares me. I would rather climb the Northside just because it doesn't have kumbu over there. So anyone who makes it through the kumbu has my utmost respect.

Great Video, a very interesting story, thanks for sharing, new sub here!

I can only imagine that the decision makers in the government have never actually been to, or understand, Everest so they have some bizarre idea that the Hillary Step was a drawcard for tourists. Because realistically if it's absence makes for an easier, safer climb it should be more of a _boon_ for the govt, with more climbers summiting and therefore more money to be made. Nothing else makes sense to me, because no reasonable person would think that someone going to the effort & expense of an Everest climb is going to be so disappointed by this that they'd cancel or demand lower fees. The summit is the drawcard, after all. I honestly can't imagine that an exhausted climber in the death zone is going to be anything other than _relieved_ that they have an easier climb without it! And even if it was some kind of special drawcard or desired destination, with the rock now being further down the mountain it means even more climbers will potentially have a chance to interact with it. 🤷‍♀️

An eloquent and compelling narrative.

@EverestMystery

3 ай бұрын

Thank you, I'm glad you took the time to watch!

@Bearwithme560

3 ай бұрын

@@EverestMystery As am l!

It's indescribable to actually climb in the same path as Hillary and Tenzing. What dreams are made of. Now the MOST famous pitch is gone. Who doesn't enjoy a mystery. Mebbee Nepal guys have a great sense of humor? Thanks

i worked at the sedona supermax giant screen theater the first imax film we opened with and ran it for one year was EVEREST i saw it possibly 100+ times in my observation i believe the hillary step is gone

@laurieb3703

3 ай бұрын

I remember that!!!! It made me absolutely fascinated with Everest ❤❤❤

Cool video! Thanks. It wouldn't bother me but I also would never be able to make it that far. I enjoy the ocean and beach. Love watching videos about everest thou

Nature isn’t permanent, it is always changing. It’s crazy that the earthquake happened almost a decade ago but this topic is still up for debate- at least according to the Nepalese government.

I'm not going to believe my lying eyes. I'm with the gov, it's still there. At least in my mind whenever I think about Hillery and Norgay climbing it. Hearing him tell the tale of climbing the step was so awesome. Hard to think climbing that first, no safety ropes with that 8k foot drop off. But I'm sure nobody is going to change their minds and not climb if that's their dream. Just that part of following in those two giants steps is gone forever.

@EverestMystery

3 ай бұрын

Indeed, Hillary and Tenzing are giants among men (and all humans). I had the opportunity to interview Sir Edmund in 2004 before he appeared at the 100th anniversary of The Explorers Club. I'll post that amazing talk he gave about the day he and Tenzing made the first ascent. That short interview is on the channel, called First On Top. I've also interviewed his son Peter on multiple occasions, and they are also on Everest Mystery. Here's the clip with Sir Ed: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mmeup8iJntXchaw.html

If true, the real sadness of this development is that Rob Hall might have not perished if it had been gone at that time - his demise was critically linked to inability to navigate the Hillary Step on way down with the other disabled climber. Rob Hall - RIP

@sammc2601

3 ай бұрын

Came to my mind too when watching. RIP, Rob.

Fascinating video - thank you. (The KZread algorithm strikes again!) I know very little about Everest, but I am a first language Welsh speaker, so I can at least share a pronunciation tip. Cwm IS pronounced 'coom', but with the 'oo' in book, not the 'oo' in boom.👍

@EverestMystery

3 ай бұрын

THANK YOU! I have a couple good pals in Wales, one of whom was my first climbing guide. We climbed a bunch in Chamonix back in the late 80's....another does the PR and marketing for the lion whisperer... I HAVE to get to Wales someday, it's in my DNA. Thanks for the primer on how to pronounce cwm!

@rsjmd

3 ай бұрын

Thank you for that tidbit, as I've been an Everest fan/reader/follower since the 96 disaster "into Thin Air." and then several of the classics, Without your phonetic analysis many will have to go back to Buddy Hackett's infamous classic Chinese Waiter comedy routine of the 1950's when he told diners to chose dishes off the menu: "Two from cowum A, one from cowum b:" Then as an aside to the listener he explained "Cowum!...c-o-l-u-m-n! I can spell it, just can't say it!"

Nature is always changing

interesting video, thanks!

New to mountaineering AS A HOBBY OF INTEREST… not climbing anytime soon! But I’m fascinated. Thank you for the content.

Thank you. The CC effects will make it a different climb.

I think it's gone! Clearly, you can tell it's not there anymore. Thank you for pointing this out, with the proof to show it's really not there anymore. I would still make the climb. It's on my bucket list to climb Everest ☺️

@EverestMystery

3 ай бұрын

I agree, and hope you get there so you can see for yourself! Thanks for watching...and, stay in touch so when you get to the mountain I can cheer you on from home!

@poutinedream5066

3 ай бұрын

Omg, Please be careful, and make a steadfast list of turnaround symptoms and situations, and promise your loved ones you'll stick to it.

@Caminiti01

3 ай бұрын

@poutinedream5066 I will, my family already knows what my plans are. I have enough sense to know when to turn around. I will climb Everest if I have to turn around, then it was meant to be. I want to live to climb another day. The mountain is not going anywhere 😉

@M00N.L1GHT

3 ай бұрын

⁠@@Caminiti01 ~ just remember please, that most folks ‘have enough sense to know when to turn around’ when they are planning their ascent. But it’s a whole different thing to have that sense when you are in high altitude, and executive functions are extremely challenged!

Thanks, Thom.

H.A. Boom Boom! The mountain has become a carnival attraction. Given little real respect. Hey. Why don't we give it the OHS treatment. Hillary step is slowing people down. We NMA people are very practical people. No Hillary step, no Hillary step. More summits. Less jams. Far more potential fee payers in the future. Simples!!

You’re my favourite channel I just can’t afford to pay for it

@EverestMystery

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! Your comment is worth more than one could imagine. I’m glad you are enjoying the channel 🙏🌄

Interesting. I watch a lot of Mount Everest videos and this is the first I've heard of the Hillary Step missing. And apparently it's been gone for nearly a decade!

I caught a snapshot on another video of an incident that the channel used a photo in two different incidents highlighted but maybe connected. Do you have have a video or information on John Griffith being supposedly harassed by Sherpas on Everest? And is any of it linked Ueli Steck? I would prefer information from your channel.

@EverestMystery

3 ай бұрын

Thanks so much, really appreciate the comment and your sentiment about the channel :) I know a fair amount about the incident that took place, having been told an extremely detailed first-hand account by a well-known mountaineer who was there when the incident took place. I was told that Ueli and Simone thought they were going to die that day....and my gut tells me John felt the same. They weren't the only ones in the crossfire... Thanks for the comment, it puts that story up on my radar, and might make for a great story to do.

@M00N.L1GHT

3 ай бұрын

@@EverestMystery~ yes please. That story sounds very interesting.

So the Hillary Step collapsed! No big surprised there. This "mountain" will continue to break down. More slabs, boulders, chunks and pieces will fall off - more crevasses will open. It's completely normal and natural. It's probably best to stay off that mountain - these events can happen at any time.

I’m so pleased I found this channel. This is some really great info I’ve come across with your videos. I am a long time climber myself with lots of peaks across many continents but only one 8,000 meter summit to my records- last year I summit Choy Oyu with Alpine Ascents and had a decent experience but was off put by a few things.. I now have my eyes on an expedition to finally conquer Everest next year as I have a broken wrist at the moment.. otherwise I would be at base camp right now 😢 but I am considering RMI expeditions (expensive but my life is not worth potential savings going with another team). I’m wondering if any have any good suggestion’s for guys like me weighing my best options - I don’t want to get myself into a situation like many you detail in your videos. Thanks for the content! Maybe a video on how to not get yourself killed choosing sketchy expeditions haha 😂

I think more are jamming up today as far as long lines is because none of these climbers are seeing the Hillary Step. That would and has been a natural barrier for guides to wait. Well, since the Hillary Step is no longer there guides and groups are sending more climbers at once creating slow downs as opposed to the normal bottleneck we used to see at the site formally known as the Hillary Step.

Well this has changed my life profoundly 😅

That rock was teetering on the ridge as it was. It’s no wonder it got shaken off.

My earliest memory was when I was 4 yrs old, it was the conquest of Mt Everest. Ever since I have been obsessed with Mt Everest. Now that the Hillary Step is gone I have canceled my trip and dream of waiting 3 hours to climb the Hillary Step. I shall remain content with my monthly conquests of Mt Monadnock!

Sounds like a classic PR move to boost Interest and Tourism not only in the Mountaineering industry but overall.

Absolutely amazing it's growing

How long before a resort is built on the summit?

Not as bad traffic jams to the top!!!

@isabellind1292

3 ай бұрын

It's the highest garbage dump in the world despite these climbers profess they so respect the beauty and awesomeness of this mountain and then turn around and leave all their human excrement and trash behind because they want to brag and get a pat on the back for their achievement. They'd never climb it if they were the last people on the planet. Selfish people.

It is absolutely gone. Plus, the movie Everest really showed the challenges to climb up Hillary Step and the log jam. It wouldn't make a single difference with the name being gone. I think I speak for ALL climbers when I say the reason anyone would want to climb Everest is, "Because It's There" -Edmund Hillary & George Leigh Mallory, former mountaineer R.I.P Thank you for your amazing documentaries. I am new here and definitely enjoying the episodes. Stay safe and God bless

Definitely looks gone , thank you for your videos ,

Great video, I think the photo comparisons are pretty much confirmation that it is gone. Keep up the great work :)

It didn't change..it just rearranged! I've seen this channel a few times, but I must say the content here is critical.

I've watched tons of videos on KZread and I wondered where it was/went. Maybe I was watching a different route? Thanks for this.

@jesusk1358

Күн бұрын

You can bypass it depending on the amount of ice that season.

The pre-earthquake photos don't seem to be a 40 foot face - had it changed since Ed and Tensing's climb?

We went climbing on Mt. Rainier and in the morning after sleeping on an ice field, we saw a huge part of the face collapse, it was way beyond anything, it felt like the word avalanche was not somehow big enough to cover such a sight!

@M00N.L1GHT

3 ай бұрын

Wow. That sounds amazing. I’d love to hear more about what it was like!

@RawOlympia

3 ай бұрын

@@M00N.L1GHTthnx! it was just too much to see! we went in the summer, which was too dangerous! the guides were nuts, they would tie ropes on pick axes and swing in crevasses. At night, the stars were not only above, but below! You would love it in the MoonLight!

First time i heard one of your videos. You have an innate honesty about you and your voice is relaxing to hear. What an informative video, thank you. My opinion, the Hillary step has changed location i.e. it's gone.😢

It is gone , I am not a climber, but I watch all these doc's on climbing, especially Mt. Everest and can't help what natural disasters do they change land scapes !

@EverestMystery

18 күн бұрын

Yes, thank you for watching!

Don’t think it is for anything nefarious that the Nepali government has denied the lost of the Hilary Step. The Nepalese people are very honourable and have a lot of respect for Ed Hilary for all the work he did for the Sherpa people long after his and Tenzing’s summit. He dedicated has life to the region ( which also cost him the life of his wife and daughter ) So I think it because they have lost something Iconic that honours a man who they deeply respect is the reason why they don’t want to admit that it’s gone… But hey, that’s just my opinion

@teppo9585

3 ай бұрын

Thats like saying the 4 million number of deaths at Auschwitz was held on for so long out of respect for the dead.. No. You need to go with the most accurate truth you can find at every time and acknowledge things aren´t like they used be, or how you thought they were once you know that to be the fact.

@M00N.L1GHT

3 ай бұрын

Did his wife and daughter die on Everest? In any event, I really appreciate your perspective. It sounds right to me, although I think financial factors might also enter into it a little. Thanks for sharing.

Love your channel my friend I wish I could afford membership. I am fascinated by this mountain and the Hillary step is not there guaranteed.

@EverestMystery

3 ай бұрын

Thank you so much, that means very much to me! I'm glad you are here and really appreciate that you are part of the community

At 15:00 the Hillary Step is in both photos. In the photo to the left the step is only partially shown at the upper left of the photo. The snow is different in each photo causing the climbers to choose different routes.

Sure looks like it's gone to me (wow!) It's the area formally called the Hillary Step now! 🗻

Wow so cool you mentioned the old man on the mountain in New Hampshire. I came to comment about the old man and just as I did you mentioned it. Definitely a sad day for all of us in NH but nature has her ways.

@EverestMystery

2 ай бұрын

Fantastic, thanks for watching. So glad you appreciated the Old Man on the Mountain mention!

reminded me of the notorious crystal rapid washed away by the Glen canyon dam flood of 83 described in 'the emerald mile'. they thought that the dam had basically locked the river in it's configuration but then an unforeseen flood cleared it away. Now a piece of legend and history.

We had a small earthquake here, in rural Georgia. I grew up climbing around the mountain ridges here. I knew one part across from our childhood home, very well. After the earthquake, a path I used years before, to rescue my brother from a fall off of a small cliff, is no longer passable since the earthquake( and it was like barely a 2.3, or so! ) I have seen changes due to a huge waterfall where two ridges meet, it washed out logging roads, a road we used to cut wood as a child, to heat with during the winters here. I can tell you by the changes in rock discoloration, shape and depth, those three main boulders with several surrounding smaller ones, on Mount Everest,are gone. We have to remember, their culture, is not ours. We have to think of why it is important for The Nepalese Government to take that stance. This is my opinion, on why they say it is not gone, to protect the sacred Beliefs held of Mount Everest, that the Nepali people have.

I've always wondered this: is there an exact place that is considered the summit? If a group summits together, do you take turns standing in that one exact spot?

@teppo9585

3 ай бұрын

I´d say once your head is above the the highest spot of what you´re summiting and its within your touching distance you´ve summited. There are no trophy ceremonies once you get back down so it´s just that you think you´ve summited that counts whether you stood on the absolute spot that is highest or not.

@SPORT2932

3 ай бұрын

@@teppo9585 I guess I wonder if some climbers regret not standing in the spot they considered the summit but were self conscious about speaking up and then descended.

If the rest of Mt. Everest could now follow in the footsteps of the Hillary Step, I would have a realistic chance of climbing to the summit.

@Michael-sb8jf

3 ай бұрын

Now we just need the 3 steps to become the 3 ramps

Guided trips to the summit of Everest should be stopped immediately. For anyone who wishes to obtain a permit to summit that mountain, participation in a clean up of all the accessible bodies of deceased climbers, and all the trash and gear left there over the years, needs to be the price for admission to the summit. I think of Everest, and what humans have done to it, with disgust and revulsion. There should be a tattoo put on the forehead of everyone who claims some egotistical accomplishment from their climb of Everest that says...."I participated in the ultimate act of human littering". The ultimate metaphor for a world out of balance at the hands of man.