What do YOU think is the #1 hilariously bad Sonic boss fight?

@Useott

4 ай бұрын

Sonic 1 8-bit EDIT: Previously S1 Master System

@Jaime0021

4 ай бұрын

Idk

@Milesprowerboy5

4 ай бұрын

Sonic superstars egg fortress act 2

@XxDramaticBatu

4 ай бұрын

The sonic cd one with the springs thing

@hellooldfriend-ki4uc

4 ай бұрын

the first one for sonic 1 for the game gear/mastersystem (especially game gear with screen crunch)

"it actual feels like the AI has a frontal lobe" *Knuckles constantly running into an invisible wall*

@Magnet_Chaos

4 ай бұрын

That's just part of his brilliant strategy.

@matheusaugusto3091

4 ай бұрын

Well, it has the frontal lobe. It just forgot to get the rest of the brain as well

@samuelrodriguez9801

3 ай бұрын

Sounds like an actual player of a videogame.

@Katharoni

Ай бұрын

You can't be lobotomized without a frontal lobe

@SparklingJam

24 күн бұрын

Nah knuckles got his frontal lobe bitten by an abnormally large golden bear

Fun fact: Knuckles' "Oh no" voice clip is taken from a different VA, from a beta version of the game. If you didn't know that, now you do.

@jamiegioca9448

4 ай бұрын

It was actually the same guy, the only different thing was the voice direction

@Nyaalexi

4 ай бұрын

@@jamiegioca9448 Oh OK.

@FreddyChoppins

4 ай бұрын

Wait, that's the origin of that voice? I've been hearing it for years and just thought it was something clipped off Twitch or something 😄

@andrewkos5560

3 ай бұрын

@@FreddyChoppins In one of the old builds of SA1, Knuckles' va had more of an old timey radio voice. The "Oh no!" clip is from that. For some reason, they used it as a reaction for the boss fight, despite the new version of the line already bring recorded.

@Revel8ns320

2 ай бұрын

oh no

Glad to know I wasn’t the only one who thought Superstars bosses were insane. At first it was like “oh cool the bosses are actually a challenge” to “why is there another phase to this boss it’s been 6 minutes”

@acedelta12

4 ай бұрын

We also need fucking health bars

@MarkerMurker

4 ай бұрын

​@@acedelta12That doesn't change the fights

@genericname2747

4 ай бұрын

​@@MarkerMurkerBut it's nice to know when you're close to winning

@sinteleon

3 ай бұрын

@@genericname2747 then cry in despair when you deal only 5% damage per phase

i love that silver can throw you into space, quite a way to get rid of the iblis trigger lol

@justinarzola4584

4 ай бұрын

I wonder how that even got programmed into the game, 06 has many glitches but that seems intentionally designed.

@sushisugokuumaidesuB

4 ай бұрын

Probably. Like the developers were just probably wheezing in the end

@TARDISES

4 ай бұрын

@@justinarzola4584 It's not intentionally designed. It's a side effect of glitching through the invisible walls meant to keep you in the arena. And someone got footage of glitching through the wall, taunting Silver about it by standing out of his grab range... only for him to promptly teleport dash through the wall and chase them throughout Soleanna until he fell into the water.

@genericname2747

4 ай бұрын

Work smart not hard

@justinarzola4584

4 ай бұрын

@@TARDISESThe Way it happens and how you encounter is obviously a glitch but the fact that something as level design specific like space was put there makes me think it had to be somewhat intentional.

Fang was out for blood in Sonic Superstars.

@sporg5437

4 ай бұрын

I’m screaming on the inside just hearing about Fangs boss battle in Superstars

@HOTD108_

4 ай бұрын

​@@sporg5437Why's that? It's really not that bad. It's not like it's a Cuphead boss or anything.

@sporg5437

4 ай бұрын

@@HOTD108_ okay cool but not all of us are gods at 2d Sonic games

@droidy365

4 ай бұрын

"Snipin's a good job, mate." - Fang.

@brandonp7503

4 ай бұрын

Sonic Superstars levels: 👶 Sonic Superstars bosses: 😈

Its kinda funny how Silver's boss in 06 is actually really easy if you just keep your distance and wait for his audio cue. He can be downed as quickly as an SA1 boss

@blekksverd

4 ай бұрын

I think the biggest problem with the Silver fight is the camera. If it actually focused on Silver, the fight would be ridiculously easy because of how much he telegraphs his attacks, but instead the camera tries to show where you're going like you're just walking through the hub world, so when you try to move away from Silver, you can't see where he is or what he's doing anymore. It's one of those things that make it obvious how rushed the game was. I'm sure the devs would have fixed the camera if they had more time, but when your boss wants the game out for Christmas while half the team is busy with a completely different game, you have to make some sacrifices.

@ZCKSCB

4 ай бұрын

Silver likes his personal space

@BIGTHANKSHEESH

4 ай бұрын

I love that fight and if you main Silver in the story, Sonic is getting DUNKED on

@jacksonteller3973

4 ай бұрын

yeah I never had as many issues with that boss as others did.

@frisby7143

4 ай бұрын

Yeah I was 10 when I played this and even then I quickly figured this out

yeah I remember when playing sonic adventure and battling knuckles I noticed how fast the fight was over, but didn’t point it out because I was too distracted by knuckles saying “oh-no.”

@AyrtonEdwards-bv4fx

4 ай бұрын

oh noes

@genericname2747

4 ай бұрын

Oh no.

@rhys_fries

4 ай бұрын

that line is so iconic its what i think of when somebody mentions sonic voiceacting

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I remember beating Team Dark because they just jumped of the map. The A.I follows the team leader so they all fell off at once. I think my record is like 10 seconds and it could probably be lower

@TheSilvershadow200

4 ай бұрын

My record for one of these battles is two seconds. The victory button is your speed character's tornado (Although Espio's is a bit of a pain). Spam tornado and you are done within 15 seconds almost every time. That two second fight was when all three opponents were knocked out by my very first tornado. As always, first thing I did in the first miliseconds of the fight was tornado and... They all went.

@starbit5065

4 ай бұрын

It’s been a while since I played Heroes so I don’t fully remember how easy/hard the second Team Boss was, but I do firmly remember that if you button mash in power formation and have even the slightest amount of luck you can pretty easily beat every story’s first Team Boss in like 20 seconds.

@galaxian9664

4 ай бұрын

@@TheSilvershadow200 With espio’s tornado I don’t even use it. When he turns invisible the AI doesn’t know where he is and you can spam the shuriken attack.

@ZCKSCB

4 ай бұрын

I think team Rose jumped off when I was playing it on stream last week.

@IosLocarth

3 ай бұрын

I had a weird bug happen in one of them when I died once and when I respawned it just launched the other team off the map and the game just kind of didn't know what to do for 10 seconds before I won

Missed opportunity to call this video "Sonic's rocky history with boss fights"

Knuckles is the reason bossfights are now giant

best fight is obviously sonic vs big, remember that guys...

@SpeedoIsVeryEpic

4 ай бұрын

I know right

@4beesTV

4 ай бұрын

Dang Now I wish I had sonic adventure 1

@Catguyanimations

4 ай бұрын

💀💀

@P-P-Panda

4 ай бұрын

I do man

@Emmanueltheking1233

4 ай бұрын

Did that fight ever happen🤔🤔🤔🤔

The thumbnail looks like Knuckles is shooting sand out of a spout in his face

I own a Nintendo Power magazine with a Sonic Heroes section and it seriously recommends to just spam each Speed-based character's tornado move near the edge to win for every team fight, which really says something about the level of strategy

@MGLpr0

4 ай бұрын

Works only on the GameCube version though. On PC and Xbox it does almost nothing The PS2 version is too trash for me to check, so idk there

Silver isn't even the worst boss fight in 06. That prize has to go to Iblis phase 2 (the one you fight as Sonic & Shadow). Silver might be the less functional but at least it's ok once you know what to do to beat Silver quickly. Iblis will always require you to wait around for ages until the game decides you can hit him. You can speed things up by going into the lava and using i-frames to hit the orbs but this is very risky and if you ie, you have to repeat the whole thing again. And to add insult to injury the final attack which happens minutes into the boss fight, Iblis just removes a ton of the platforms unexpectedly and on a first playthrough, this is extremely likely to kill you. And the final fuck you is the game expects you to do fight again as Shadow. The boss already takes as long as it takes to beat Chaos 4 with Sonic, Tails & Knuckles. Why not just have it be the same boss with a chraacter who basically controls the same

@justinarzola4584

4 ай бұрын

I didn't struggle with that boss, I Found Shadow's version rather easy.

@Lou-yf1jo

4 ай бұрын

06 good

I find it hilarious that Silver has both one of the worst boss fights in the series and one of the best I think one reason Generations rival battles are so good is because they're not limited to what a player can do. The rival battles in Adventure-06 were designed as if you're fighting another person playing the game, aside from maybe a bonus move like Shadow's Chaos Spear. Almost every move they can perform against you is one you could use if you were playing as them. The main reason Adventure 2's rival battles are cooler than the first one's is because they have a better AI. Generations, on the other hand, featured you fighting against someone who isn't restriced to what a player can do. You can't tell me they'd make a Sonic game where you can play as Silver and readily use Meteor Smash, teleport or go out of bounds on purpose. Thus allowing an AI who isn't trying to play a character.

On the topic of The End's original fight, it's not just Easy that skips it entirely, Normal does the same. So you either beat the original ending on Easy or Normal to get an underwhelming final battle with a quick time event at the end, or you play on Hard or Extreme for the same underwhelming fight but with the hacking minigame again. At least you can switch your difficulty at any time, even during Supreme's boss fight. (except for Extreme of course)

@renumi8591

4 ай бұрын

I was wondering about this.. I found Sonic Frontiers piss easy until the DLC when I kept falling off the buildings.. and that's when I found out you could change difficulty. I was so underwhelemed with all of the bss fights on normal, especially The End

@genericname2747

4 ай бұрын

Normal is supposed to be the intended difficulty, why would they punish you for using by removing the final boss??

@webbowser8834

4 ай бұрын

I really do think one of the Sonic Frontiers devs liked Ikaruga just a lil too much. Like don't get me wrong, Ikaruga is a classic in the curtain shooter genre and I love that it got homaged in the recent Sonic game. But, like, did it really need to be the final boss in a game that literally reinvented Super Sonic battles? Obviously the answer is "no", because DLC noises.

@ZCKSCB

4 ай бұрын

I knew about the frontiers final boss before playing and when i played on normal, It got skipped. I thought it had to do with the region because i bought my copy off of ebay and it was a european copy (im in america). But this video made me understand that there’s an actual reason it wasn’t there.

@TheReZisTLust

9 күн бұрын

Normal nowadays is easy of the 90s sadly​@@genericname2747

This video could honestly just be a list of every boss fight in superstars...

@fdg2208

4 ай бұрын

It could also be a list of Sonic Rush 1 boss fights

@DASH596

4 ай бұрын

@@fdg2208 Oh god, both games' boss fights are THE WORST

@MarwanHadidi

4 ай бұрын

I'm just waiting for Sonic superstars to get cracked so I can know what you're talking about

@MarwanHadidi

4 ай бұрын

And frontiers

@Enthusiasmmm

4 ай бұрын

​@@fdg2208I actually really like the Sonic Rush boss fights! They posed a real challenge, and were really rewarding when I figured out the patterns and defeated them. I also like how the battle gets progressively harder as it goes on. It gives you the sense that Eggman is learning. The fact that elements from the first boss fight are used and expanded on in a later boss fight also gives you the impression that Eggman is learning and improving. It also feels like he's out for blood, especially in that last boss fight with the big robot. I love that fight, but I also hate that one Lazer move.

Actually the reason team rose and team sonic fight is because they think sonic stole cream's chao. it's explained in the first cutscene from team rose's story when you can see the newspaper. But it was actually Metal Sonic.

@TheReZisTLust

4 ай бұрын

True sonic fans know 😢

@mredbadger

4 ай бұрын

No they don’t

@mrmelonman2893

4 ай бұрын

@@mredbadger yea it is, thats the whole reason why they go on there journey in the first place.

@extremmefan7305

4 ай бұрын

It's not really "explained", but you can indeed piece two and two together easily if you remembered the newspaper (but that's assuming you're playing Team Rose first and saw it in their intro).

@mredbadger

4 ай бұрын

@@mrmelonman2893no, not true

Yea i swear there isn't any time in the franchise where the bosses have been consistant game from game. Even then, IN a game like SA1 you have AWFUL bosses with the characters and then the Final Boss in Sonic's and Tails' stories being actually really fun. Weird.

@latsaspege2021

4 ай бұрын

holy french bread mr needlemouse is here

@MarwanHadidi

4 ай бұрын

SA1s final boss is awesome too

@polocatfan

4 ай бұрын

Honestly Sonic 1's bosses are all pretty good. (even Labyrinth Zone.)

@Compucles

4 ай бұрын

@@polocatfan Although, the final boss in "Sonic 1" is rather easy for a final boss after fighting your way through the torturous Labyrinth and Scrap Brain Zones.

I think that if silver is ever playable again, chucking someone into space should be one of his powers

@webbowser8834

4 ай бұрын

Silver being playable in a game that isn't utter trash is a dream of mine. Chucking objects into things and even reflecting bullets Darth Vader style is one heck of a power fantasy.

@hendeyjagger7489

4 ай бұрын

​@@webbowser8834 *cough* Mario & Sonic London

@webbowser8834

3 ай бұрын

@@hendeyjagger7489 Ok sure, I'll grant that Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games is a fine series. Unfortunately I can't live out my very specific fantasy of standing there with my psychic barrier up absorbing a ton of bullets only to let them clatter uselessly on the ground in those series. Sonic 06 *does* let me live that dream, and pretty easily too (theirs a side mission that's basically designed to setup this situation), but the game is utter dogwater and that's just really unfortunate.

Long live the “Oh No!” And “It’s no use!” Boss fights. Great vid btw!

I like the Casino boss fight in Sonic 3 where Robotnik's plan is to slowly float over to you and drop a green ball on you and just hope it hits you. Whats really funny about it is that if you just stand still, it'll miss you.

Oh thank god, I thought I was just bad at Sonic Generations! I kept thinking I missed an opportunity to attack it, but no, there's just a lot of waiting

The dark dragon boss in Superstars was especially miserable for me because nothing communicates to you that touching Tails/Knuckles will give you bonus rings, and it’s entirely too easy for the boss to pull you into a 2D section right when your ring delivery helper arrived.

Superstars’ bosses brought an easy 8-9/10 game down to a 5-6. Honestly insane how Arzest managed to make some of the worst boss fights in the entire series…

@alptugraakan7490

4 ай бұрын

I think bosses aremt the reason i mean mario wonder had just 2 bosses(4 but the 2 of them are just bowser jr fight) yet it was rated a whoppimg 8.8 in imdb

@dionebrinkley5551

4 ай бұрын

Their too easy because of the emralds powers without them their 7/10

@Hyp3rSonic

4 ай бұрын

I only found like 4 of the bosses(in both stories) not the greatest

@mredbadger

4 ай бұрын

@@alptugraakan7490that just shows that people would rather no bosses at all than Superstars’ bosses lol

@Umbra_Ursus

4 ай бұрын

It's honestly impressive. That first Robotnik fight is fine, honestly, but then every single fight from there to the end is a slog filled with arbitrary invincibility. Why even have the "flashing white" thing if it in no way indicates when you can actually hurt the boss? Even Forces had better fights; Infinite's round 1 and Metal are better than anything in Superstars. Better music there, too. And checkpoints in the final boss fight, too!

Won’t lie the true final boss of Superstars was the absolute pits the first time I played it. I rage quit after a few attempts only to beat at 5 in the morning because I wanted to pop off so hard that morning when I finally beat it

Knuckles boss fights during 3&K and Adventure 1 are so hilariously one sided that I love it. I think the first character battles of Sonic/Shadow and Tails/Eggman in Adventure 2 are also really funny to play, the first Sonic/Shadow one wasn't as easy as the others but it's close. I am glad we get more challenging fights between these pairs and Knuckles/Rouge by the time we get to Space Colony Ark though.

If Knuckles manages to use that glide attack in Sonic Adventure 1, then using Sonic's homing attack results in a stalemate with both falling to the ground, making it an effectively useless attack.

oh, i feel i should mention: the wonky camera controls in "Sonic 06" make the battle with Silver even worse because you can't even SEE him most of the time! also, if he DOES trap you, he keeps saying "it's no use! it's no use!" over and over!

I legit thought I was doing something wrong during the final boss fight in Generations. The slow crawl toward its weak point was just so awkward.

Honestly, I don’t think the fight against silver is bad in principle. Up until this point, running up and doing a homing attack has always been a good strategy, but this fight goes against that by catching you off guard and throwing you back. Teaching you that now you’re gonna have to wait for an opening to attack. Although the issue with it is that the cut scene beforehand tells you nothing about silver abilities, so it was unfair that they would throw such a break in the gameplay narrative without any warning. Maybe the cat seemed beforehand, should’ve emphasized that silver has telekinesis to give you a bit of a warning that simply running up and attacking him won’t do anything? Or maybe the game should’ve started you off with shield, so that you have one free hit to figure out the gimmick of the fight? Of course, that doesn’t count for all the glitches, but that’s just how 06 is. Or even better have the boss fight start with an endgame cut scene for sonic tries doing a homing attack on him, and silver smacks him away with his powers, followed up with a line of dialogue from sonic saying “DARN! I guess I will need to wait for an opportunity to strike!”

@webbowser8834

4 ай бұрын

The boss is not bad in concept, I agree. Heck, I don't even think it's bad design to catch the player off guard and force them to come up with a new strategy on the fly. The issue with Silver really is the execution: His protective field is not well telegraphed at all, has a high probability of chain killing or even softlocking you, and the camera doesn't focus on Silver making it really easy to accidentally stumble into Silver's protective field. Any one of these issues would be a significant mark against the fight, but all three together is enough to write an entire song about how bad it is.

cool video, but i feel like some of the points here are a bit inaccurate -Heroes' team battles can be cheesed by just spamming the tornado attack, or the thunder shoot, but to be fair, this still doesn't really support the rock/paper/scissors element, and still has a chance to fail and go right back to being a chaotic mess -the Silver battle doesn't require you to restart the game, you could just start over from the pause menu, which costs a life, so if you don't have any, then you can just quit to the main menu and restart the fight from there -SIlver throwing you into space doesn't softlock you, although it takes a bit, you hit something eventually -It also usually happens whenever you manage to clip outside the boss arena, which is exactly what's happening in the clip shown off in the video, but this is Sonic 06, so it could probably still happen normally i was also gonna point out that the Team Rose fight had a decent motive, but looking back, that motive is just really inconsistent among cutscenes and dialog. it's either Sonic being a potential culprit to stealing Froggy and Chocola, Amy messing with Sonic to get him to marry her somehow, or Team Sonic fighting them just to get them out of their way

I had NO IDEA you could revive teammates in the Sonic Heroes team fights... because they never lasted that long for me. Most times I played, they were over in 10 seconds because either the enemy AI all decided to jump off the edge, or because I was Team Rose and Amy's hammer tornado is BUSTED. (Seriously, open a team fight with it and you will most likely take out at least one opponent right there, if you're lucky you'll get all 3) If that fails, Cream and Big are also hilariously busted.

@micreper

2 күн бұрын

team rose is easy mode for a reason

8:52 I have a theory that these battles are bad on purpose, not because they seek to be bad per se, but because they try to be comical, like a cartoon. The first boss is protected up to the smallest part of the front, but if you stand behind him you already won; a vehicle that has oxygen bubbles as a means of protection, absorbs all the bubbles and is left uncovered; a ship with a small drill, as this one is so small it gets stuck on the thicker platform; a race against an equal... that ends with the loser crashing into a door. They won't be the best bosses, but I think the comical attempt in Eggman's encounters is interesting.

@marzipancutter8144

4 ай бұрын

I agree. While they are whimsical they do present you with a problem to analyze and a solution to find. Sure, they're more fun than threatening, but that's the point, they're FUN. In that sense they are by no means badly designed, despite being "easy", and they outclass all of the other Boss encounters listed in this video. It's a pity people get good design and difficulty confused sometimes. The problem with Sonic bosses isn't when they're easy, it's when they're boring.

@Compucles

4 ай бұрын

@@marzipancutter8144 No, the problem is that they *aren't* fun! The bubble one and the Metal Sonic race are kind of fun, and the final boss is decent, but the rest are boring and/or annoying. The pinball one in particular is *INCREDIBLY* annoying!

@marzipancutter8144

4 ай бұрын

@@Compucles Pinball levels are a common theme throughout Sonic games though, and it had some of the better Pinball physics compared to some of the later games. After playing through an entire Pinball-themed world I think it's fine to give players a pinball-themed challenge, I'll admit that it contains some genuinely tricky jumps where you fall down for failing. you actually need to think about, and it can be annoying that you fall down for failing in a getting-over-it fashion. But you actually have to think about some of the jumps, it tests your familiarity with the physics you should have mastered by playing the previous levels, and it's a blast to optimize in time trial. Actually, almost all of the bosses are perfect for Speedrunning.

@Compucles

4 ай бұрын

@@marzipancutter8144 But "Sonic Spinball" and other games actually have *good* pinball levels. The pinball boss fight is "Sonic CD' is terribly designed and extremely frustrating trying to make your way up the table only to be forced down or to the side on almost every single attempt. There's barely any thinking about the jumps at all! It's almost complete luck, which is part of why that boss fight is so terrible! You can pretty much only jump back in, hit the flippers at an angle you think will work, and then just hope that this is the rare time you don't get blocked or even worse get knocked down further past a part you already got past and then need to redo that part as well.

@marzipancutter8144

4 ай бұрын

@@Compucles Alright then, all I can say in response to that is that my experience with the level differs. I don't want to invalidate your experience or call skill issue, and a level 2 boss isn't supposed to be that hard so it would be bad design even if it was. I've played the level both as an inexperienced child (where I do believe I fell down a lot, but it didn't feel like luck when I eventually beat it, as I slowly figured out a consistent way to get up) and more recently tryharding to make it in a couple seconds, and I don't share your frustrations. I do think though this level gets harder the worse you are at it which I think is questionable. All the bouncers you can use to get up really easily are one time use, and the more you destroy the harder it gets to get up, so not knowing that and making an unfavorable board state is a bit of a pain design-wise.

12:00 From a gameplay standpoint this is actually one of the better boss battles Frontiers has to offer before the DLC funnily enough. 15:06 This I feel also extends to Superstar bosses in general since it's just a waiting game until you get a single hit in. The Egg Reverie and Titanic Monarch in Mania needed you to deal 16 hits total to win their fights, but in ER's case the bosses are always vulnerable when they're on screen and in TM you can hit Eggman multiple times and not once every blue moon. Hell the Great Eggman Robo in Sonic & Knuckles requires a whopping 36 hits to destroy in total but as it was said before, bosses in the classic games before this one rarely required you to wait, and even if they did, you were always allowed to score more than one hit in.

I NEVER had issues with the team fights in Heroes. Spam the tornado moves and they all go down. It's worked for me since I was a kid. Albeit with Amy or Espio was fickle to use this strategy. But seriously, rinse the other team in seconds

Maybe controversial, but I think I prefer the touhou battle against The end over the DLC fight against it simply for what the atmosphere it's supposed to have: it's Super Sonic and the final Ancient titan against a colossal planet destroying moon. When the game is spent teasing this cosmic threat that wiped out an entire ancient alien civilization that based their entire technology around the chaos emeralds, I EXPECT TO FIGHT THE BLASTED THING AT THE END (heh). And you do in the base game. It's a touhou boss fight, but a fight is a fight. Meanwhile, in the DLC.... actually, let me set the mood for you. The final battle approaches, Sonic has passed all the trials to master this new power in the nick of time. Meanwhile, everyone else has successfully collected all the chaos emeralds. And not a moment too soon. The end has come. A massive glowing moon looms over our heroes. You know it to be a being capable of destroying planets and snuffing out life with a single, powerful strike. And now it's finally free and has descended upon your world. So what does this incomprehensible and all powerful being does?.....it plugs into one of the titans and fights you as much. The final boss is another titan battle. The massive moon with a giant "f you" laser has metaphorically brought itself down to your level for a battle you've already done 6+ times by now. Forgive if I feel like the extinction level threat attaching itself to a marginally smaller scale robot is massively underwhelming conceptually to what we had previously.....

@DataDrain02

4 ай бұрын

Honestly, the DLC as a whole was a letdown. The new story and final boss felt oddly cheesy. And it was kind of a cop out that, Sage didn't do her self sacrifice in this version of events. Sure, she was gonna come back anyway. But, I felt legit really bad for Eggman in the vanilla ending. Only thing missing was Sonic saying something about her passing, sorta mirroring the SA2 ending a bit.

@mechadeka

4 ай бұрын

Touhou? It's literally Ikaruga.

The difficulty in superstars is perfect.

"Its no use!"

@nathisalegend

4 ай бұрын

yes.

@TheDeceptiveHero

4 ай бұрын

“ARIN WINS! SILVER WINS! SONIC WINS!”

Keep up the awesome work and videos chaomix love the video

Respect to chaomix for refraining from making an "ITS NO USE" joke, mustve been difficult

"The franchise has seen its fair share of highs and lows over the years." Me, a loving fan: "Mostly lows."

For the sonic heroes team battles, all I do is switch to flight and spam the same attack over and over. It ALWAYS lets me win.

Give it your best OH NO

How you explained the Sonic Heroes team fights is perfect. I beat all of them but could not for the life of me figure out what I was actually doing and just spammed attacks in power formation because that one's my favorite

Love the new channel intro 🔥🔥🔥

that intro is fire bro!

Chaomix is the only person in history who has ever made the claim that Sonic is even a contender for having some of the best boss fights because of one game

@Windy_Artist-Dev

4 ай бұрын

Sonic 2 Final Boss, S&K Final Boss, (With Super/Hyper Sonic) Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 Final Bosses, Sonic Unleasehd Final Boss, Storybook Series Final Bosses, Sonic Colors Final Boss, Sonic Generations Bosses and Rivals, (Except obviously Time Eater) and well, THAT one game. So yeah.

@maxidation1354

4 ай бұрын

​@@Windy_Artist-Devin terms of hype they excel. But in terms of design they were WAY too easy and the only reason people even remember those boss fights is because of the music and Super Sonic

@RufioTheThird

4 ай бұрын

@@maxidation1354 PEACH! That's my point exactly. Not saying that they're bad, but me personally, I haven't heard anyone make the claim that Sonic has some of the best

Cool video, @chaomix! 👍 Could you make a video called "Top 65 Crazy Sonic Boss Battles"?

I mean if you wanna play Sonic Colors but with good writing, you can just play the superior DS version.

@bagofcrime1772

4 ай бұрын

Based opinion. The ds version is my childhood

@Oceane1803

4 ай бұрын

@@bagofcrime1772 Same. And for a long time I thought the Wii version was better since it's on a more powerful console, but I only thought that because I haven't seen it at the time. The truth is the DS version is better because the writing isn't god awful and because it has the Mother Wisp/Nega Mother Wisp, an extremely important plot point that is completely absent from the Wii version for some reason.

@mredbadger

4 ай бұрын

I’ve always assumed the DS version was made first and the Wii version was thrown together later

@Oceane1803

4 ай бұрын

@@mredbadger Is it the case ?

TIL people feel they got mad skillz for tolerating superstar's boss fights

The thing that amazes me about Superstars is that these games are- no offense- to some degree for KIDS. There's no easy mode, it's just freaking like that!

@mecxu761

3 ай бұрын

Emerald power & super form are easy mode

I disagree with The Black Dragon. Everyone who hates this fight clearly doesn't know the meaning of the word patience. The attacks are easily readable after maybe a couple attempts; so the only reason anyone dislikes it is because "IT'S LONG AND I DON'T WANNA WAIT BECAUSE I'M SO IMPATIENT". Like really guys? Really?

@anotheryoutubeaccount5259

4 ай бұрын

What'd you expect, they're in a hurry to return to beating off to anime waifus

*Suprised you didn’t mention the cakewalk that was the Sonic CD Palmtree Panic Fight. It’s so easy that it isn’t even A cakewalk, it’s A Muffintiptoe.*

There are some real stinkers throughout the entire game series.

Well, smth small I noticed with the Egg Conveyer is that one has to move the conveyor belt I was doing the boss fight with Tails, and I decided to just keep myself in the air to dodge the attacks, but the conveyor belt wasn't moving too much until I started running on it again

NGL, I love the Sonic CD boss fights because rather than brawls like in other games, these ones feel like puzzles you have to solve. Almost like Zelda bosses, but instead of an item you use the move set you've been using the entire game. My favorite is the one from Wacky Workbench, where you have to ride the debris on the ground when gravity flips, but you have to be careful not to get squished. It's a fun boss Anyway as for my worst boss, it's be a three way tie for the spider, oil ocean and underwater boss in hydrocity from Mania. God, they suck so much! None of them are fun and they can all kill you way too easily! Which is a shame, because the hydrocity one is so cool in concept but it sucks so much to fight it. Probably the worst of the three, if I had to pick Anyway, great video. I loved it.

The Wacky Workbench boss was the main reason why I lost interest in beating Sonic CD as a kid. It wasn't even that hard, it was just so tedious that I stopped bothering since I figured it would only get even worse from there.

@Therius

4 ай бұрын

The funny thing is, CD actually gets easier from there. Wacky Workbench is the second to last stage and the boss of CDs final level is hilariously easy 🤣

@kinger41

4 ай бұрын

Nevermind the boss, that whole zone was super tedious imo.

@jacksonteller3973

4 ай бұрын

I found that boss really easy actually.

@jacksonteller3973

4 ай бұрын

I thought it was an interesting, trying to find the robot cage in Act 1 on the other hand was a nightmare, granted it's optional but it took me way too long to find that thing, it's really well hidden@@kinger41

@BinglesP

4 ай бұрын

@@kinger41 That was my main problem with it to be fair, I hated having to go through the zone each time.

Rotatatron and Time Eaters boss themes go SO HARD THO

I had no idea Silver could send you into space LOL!

Oh no

I think the only games with consistently fun fights are Mania, Adventure 2, Unleashed, Generations and Frontiers 4:53

7:02 Best Moment in Sonic 06

Oh hey, that Chao loves to be a badass on beating bosses on nightmare mode!

Awesome list. Haven't played the new Sonic games yet, but I'm definitely familiar with the ridiculousness of character battles in Sonic Adventure 1 and Sonic Heroes. Also familiar with weird bosses in Sonic CD thanks to Sonic Origins Plus

"It doesn't matter now what happens I will never give up the fight"

Wow, I'm glad that I sold my copy of Sonic Superstars before playing it further.

Honestly I like the bosses of sonic CD (except the first one) because they add fun for speed running, in my opinion at least 😊

i'm surprised you didn't mention the constant spam from the other characters going "Its a HOMING SHOT!" during the Time Eater boss, I get that characters repeat lines sometimes but it is annoying lol

damn, i was really hoping to see you talk about the sonic/silver fight from silvers pov because it is, in my humble opinion, genuinely fucking hilarious to just immediately pelt sonic with a million chairs and tables and kill him in three seconds lmao

New intro is 🔥🔥🔥🔥 chaomix!

This man did NOT leave out that pituful excuse of a "final battle" on Sonic Lost World!

@pvzmariosonica8fan

3 ай бұрын

Wii U/PC or 3DS version? Because I have it on 3DS

Chaomix straight up looking like pre-Frieza Gohan.

The final boss fight of Sonic Chronicles. You play as Super Sonic, you take zero damage, and to make matters worse, you also don't run out of rings. If you miss all of the quick time events, it just starts over. And the quick-time events aren't hard. There are POW moves that have harder quick-time events. The boss fight is so easy that it's almost impossible to lose. Which is kind of funny, because the fight before this one is extremely hard.

So... that last part is why I didn't bother with Super Stars.... And why I set King Koco's challenge to easy mode. Like, there are good ways to do difficult bosses. Look at Fromsoft's games. But... King Koco's trial, and Super Stars' final bosses are NOT how you go about it. That's just bullshit difficulty where it has no place to be.

That thumbnail 😂😂 POV: you collect the Chaos Emeralds early in Sonic 3

“Oh no” lol

You’re my favorite Sonic channel!

You do realize you can just hold down parry in Wyvern’s boss fight, right? Don’t get me wrong, I got so pissed when I realized that myself.

thing i can appreciate about CD's boss fights is that they're more puzzle focused fights as opposed to traditional boss fights, they aren't particularly hard puzzles but hey i appreciate the attempt.

The bubble boss fight made me laugh throughout the entire fight. I am probably one few who has laughed over the Sonic cd us boss music unironically.

Video idea: "Why does Eggman want to take over the world?"

I thought I was just bad at games playing superstars, I'm so happy to know I wasn't completely incompetent and it was just the game being on hard mode for every boss battle 😭😭

Honestly I've always loved the boss fights in sonic games but I would love to have more of sonic unleashed and sonic and the black knight bosses again! 😅

Big vs Chaos 6 is a hilariously short fight

No joke, i played superstars on release at the switch. And it took me SO LONG bc of the bosses. I also remember on the true final boss, that knuckles saved me on the last second when i was about to do the last hit with low rings!

I have no idea if it even counts as a boss fight but in Sonic Adventure there is, in fact, an encounter between Big the Cat and Chaos 6, since Chaos absorbed Froggy and you need to save him. Again I have no idea if you can even consider it a boss fight because Chaos 6 has no health bar, it doesn’t attack at all, and the “fight” ends as soon as you hit Froggy (you don’t even need to reel him in like the rest of Big’s stages). It’s honestly the weirdest moment in an already weird section of the game.

Fang at the end of Trip's Story in Superstars may genuinely be a contender for one of the most miserable experiences I've ever had in any game. Who's bright idea was it to have him have instakill attacks? It's bad enough having to wait a full minute between hits, imagine doing all of that, then getting hit by his last laser in phase 1. Oh yeah, that's right. PHASES. Phase 2 is just as bad, if not worse. If you get caught in the electroweb, kiss that attempt goodbye unless you're good at button mashing, because the popgun is ALSO instakill. On top of that, the stupid deflecting bullets thing from the regular final boss comes back in full force. And then at low health, a fun desperation attack of destroying 2/3 of the screen with his also instant death hands, and if you manage to avoid that, GOD HELP YOU if you're standing in the middle, get crushed by the ALSO INSTANT DEATH HEAD! HAVE FUN GOING THROUGH THE SAME 15 MINUTES YOU JUST DID! I'm convinced that not one player actually playtested... Well, ANY of the final bosses in Superstars to see if they were actually fun, but Fang's is especially awful. It's so bad, I haven't even beaten it. I uninstalled the game out of pure miserable anger and don't even want to look in its general direction again. What a shame.

i would say the gamma/knuckles type fights in sa1 are more like mini-boss fights or somewhat

@webbowser8834

4 ай бұрын

Even by mini-boss standards they are still comically non-threatening.

@mytoeisinagony

4 ай бұрын

@@webbowser8834 correct but thats technically most mini-boss fights

It never even registered to me until now that the rival fights in Heroes counted as "boss fights", idk what I thought they were but I just never saw those as true "boss fights" in comparison to other games I'd played by that point in my very young life. Also Silver was an absolute frikken menace in the Sonic storyline omfg, my friend and I probably had to play for an hour straight to finally get past this, and to this day I truly believe it was Luck or the game just taking pity on us cuz idk how we ever beat him, I just know one of us did eventually since we played thru all 3 stories together 😅😂 Sonic Colors first boss was completely forgettable; literally loved Colors to pieces and I completely didn't recognize that boss at all... (Really hoping if you do the Best Boss Fights that Battle will be mentioned, fingers crossed)

The Adventures rival fights were trash, but I'm glad we have them. We probably wouldn't've gotten the _excellent_ Adventure 2 rival fights to fix the issues.

Final boss of Rush was an absurd difficulty spike out of nowhere.

to be fair regarding the sonic heroes team rose fight, the only clue they had for finding chocola and froggy was that they were last seen with sonic (who turned out to be metal sonic), so they were hunting him down partially because of amy’s usual antics but also because of their actual team’s goal

@naitsabes6222

3 ай бұрын

Thank you bruh it feels like people just choose to ignore that fact

Ahh a fellow SA1 stan. Did you grow up with the Dreamcast or the uncut Gamecube version? I had the Dreamcast version and I had to get the disc cleaned like 3 times because of scratches and the poor laser on the system. But once I got it working i beat it like 3 times before it stopped working again.

One defense of Tidal Tempest's boss: You actually land several hits while he's fleeing and setting up. Once the bubbles are set up, the boss is on it's last life.

I'm saying this much rn. Whoever designed Superstars bosses, especially the final three. You deserve the Gerald Robotnik treatment.

Sonic Frontier's final boss just being a reskin of the jsab final boss is something I was not expecting to see in this game

8:27 so Silver is canonically the strongest because he can hurl you to the edge of the universe if given enough time