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Hi, I'm Daengchoong, the No. 1 Top Ivern Player in KR server I'm very happy to be introduced in the video
@seamusic6627
11 ай бұрын
damn man, now everyone will spam ivern top in my games and i dont know how to counter that now. haha im kidding, great playstyle
@lukex1337
11 ай бұрын
You are awesome 👏🏽
@tanky3021
11 ай бұрын
Well played. But now everyone gonna start running it with Ivern Top in my ranked games xD
@athoanghuu8658
11 ай бұрын
@@tanky3021 dang bro I played Ivern top in S9 and S10, it was so annoying for the enemies but now it's a whole new level of annoying XD
@Waelly17
11 ай бұрын
YEA I PLAYED AGAINST AN IVERN TOP IN szn like 10 and holy crap he mushed me into bits, it was harder than any other matchup imo
I faced that thing and I had to witness the fact that daisy is no longer your friendly forest golem that takes care of kittens, but an unholy horror that drinks blood for Breakfast and breaks spines for fun.
@despairge
11 ай бұрын
ah yes especially when he's in ur team 0/10
@minh385
11 ай бұрын
Well said
@jackharbor3347
11 ай бұрын
This is so OP, played Garen into this abomination, there was no counterplay at all. Broken BS
@fth2780
11 ай бұрын
I played rumble vs him. In lane pre-6 is easy but once he got 6. It's quite hard. But late game I carried tf with my ults. So he's only a lane bully not teamfighter
@nutsncorn69
11 ай бұрын
@@fth2780ivern players in late game can just click R on the enemy adc(enemy ADC have to deal with a 4k HP 150 Amour and MR bruiser)while playing like an enchanter to help their carry do what they do
glad they decided to turn daisy into ksante
@kazumiyumi153
11 ай бұрын
Yes its daisan'te now
@RoyZennet
11 ай бұрын
:') could we please delete that K'sante :)
@mechanicalsilence1
11 ай бұрын
@@RoyZennet you want to delete k'sante or k'sante ?
@RefRed_King
11 ай бұрын
@@mechanicalsilence1ur mom
@nicobruno9062
11 ай бұрын
Daisante
watching zed die helplessly like that makes me so happy.
@Jacob-ldk
11 ай бұрын
As a Zed Main, I completely agree with you
@Waelly17
11 ай бұрын
Based
@thedeadliest4380
11 ай бұрын
Yah, I hate zed players!
@sadkat9162
11 ай бұрын
le wholesome enchanter tank player
Thank you dobby your varus top video spawned many top varuses in my games Now time for ivern top
I love how this channel produces fun videos and unusual builds without beating around the bush, instead straight to the point
Im disturbed about how badass does Ivern sounds in Korean, compared to how friendly he does in english Lol
@valerianchole
11 ай бұрын
it is the elderwood skin's voice filter
@aname1190
11 ай бұрын
Ivern in English is the one replanting the forest. Ivern in Korea loves the forest bc it helps him hide the bodies
@gannonwilson724
11 ай бұрын
You should listen to the elderwood voice lines in English, some of them are downright creepy
@imluxannabitch9322
11 ай бұрын
Its not about the Korean voice over, its about that Old God skin. It has a dark filter to fit the skinline and yes, it sounds creepy in all languages.
@NukeOverlord
11 ай бұрын
Honestly the korean voice overs in general are terrible. You should hear Fiora. No attempt to capture her personality, just generic pretty girl
That q right click tech is crazy, didn’t even think about it
@TangoDAlpha
11 ай бұрын
Right? I'm mastery 7 with Ivern and never even thought of it 🤯
I think Sion is a counter too, as he can kick Daisy back to you and ult you
I love Ivern since release and to be honest, I was waiting the moment that riot was buffing ivern till he make some dps XD
@nicobruno9062
11 ай бұрын
You wait for so long
2:09 That 'pulling' away dash looks like unforseen feature :O
Ivern truly became "Summoner" class in LoL. WIth his pet being down he's not as useless as Yorick, he still has CC and shields. With Daisy alive enemy team has to spend resources killing his summoned Tank pet. (and with her being able to apply on hit effects, itemization can turn her into summonable bruiser with pocket shield/root, if you play ivern as a jungler Gustwalker passive makes it completely impossible for enemies to skip pet and go for Ivern)
As an occasional Ivern abuser, i absolutely guarantee seeing Daisy solo bolo people is the funniest part of this. It gets to a point you don't even need to do anything besides R+E on daisy. It's just so good
Ivern needed this. He finally gets to shine after being in the dark for so long.
@nsum2885
11 ай бұрын
you can shine without being broken af, not that I'm complaining tho, Ivern top is the most fun I've had since pre durability patch.
@Embrod
11 ай бұрын
Hope for Nunu, Taric return xD
So many helpful details in a video. Keep going bro!!!
*A wild Ivern Top Main has appeared* Choice: Run *You can not escape*
People are calling Ivern broken and stuff this patch but as a Ivern main I feel like it's just the same situation as people calling Yorick broken, not understanding how to deal with the minions and to stop their dps. They can call Ivern's damage OP all they want but the second 2 people focus DPS on daisy you lose a major part of your kit and all that chase and lockdown. I think when people learn how to play into it properly it won't be seen as strong, still pub stompy though. Curious on what other people think of this idea
@diehleeo1449
11 ай бұрын
I feel like a ton of the clips in this vid the enemies deaths was from them not respecting Ivern level 6 or daisy, walking in to auto and attack her or the minion wave when it's up. I played a lot of Ivern mid and one of the biggest counters was just baiting out daisy and then refusing to fight until they could poke/chunk daisy out and kill her and my ults on CD and champ is pretty uselss in lane w/o her or a lead.
@Speedy-Rabbit
11 ай бұрын
he has 55% winrate in all 5 roles at all elos beyond plat+ lmao
@tombrando5508
11 ай бұрын
Played ivern first time few game its fucking broken as long as you know how to spacing. When i go full ap late game daysy has above 4k health with 3s shield buff chasing them so unless ur team are full of retard you gonna win easy
@diehleeo1449
11 ай бұрын
@@Speedy-Rabbit You so good at looking at winrates they should hire you for the balance team!
This Ivern feels... Like the old Mordekaiser... for some reason...
@duc2133
11 ай бұрын
Why'd you have to remind me how fun old morde was :'(. Still remember one shottign a vayne and then using her to quadra the team
@primary_magic1227
11 ай бұрын
@@duc2133that 3rd Q just hit different man...
@julsegs
11 ай бұрын
Maybe it's Daisy being the equivalent of Morde's Soul Pet, but I'm sure there are other reasons why 🤟😆
@rayhanmahmud6579
11 ай бұрын
@@duc2133 I had had a triple and Baron using master Yi soul 😂 miss that old morde 😥😥
I played with Ivern support two days ago and it was absolutely bonkers. Once you get a lead there's no going back, enemies just evaporate.
Love your videos man
I used to play that Rylay build with the intention of abusing the slow passive with Daisy. It worked well, especially against magic damage dealers. ADC can damage it really quickly because of how Daisy's damage mitigation works against AD vs AP, but nonetheless, Daisy can be a threat to ADC if left unattended. In teamfights, you need to choose wisely whether to distract the ADC for a few 5-6 AA or creating havoc with Daisy against enemies that can't escape it but also can't destroy it easily. Not to mention that Daisy can add a lot to your peeling potential. No, like you need Daisy entirely, but it is worth having in mind that Daisy can peel your backline for free with Rylays while you can help your frontline with Ivern's abilities or vice-versa
Honestly I really like. It has clearly defined strengths and weaknesses, and it's a very unique take on Ivern and rangef toplaners overall. I'd fight that instead of K'Sante or Gragas any day
@ssrubenmf7296
11 ай бұрын
For me I prefer fighting Ksante, being honest... Not gragas tho, I really hate playing against gragas top
@Bodi-Bodi
11 ай бұрын
I don't think you've played against a decent Ivern then. He is so ridiculously op right now. You pretty much can't do anything against him
@ayumuchorizo4486
11 ай бұрын
@@Bodi-Bodi Yeah considering there's only a handful of picks that can outrun Daisy or outdps his combo. Otherwise, that Ivern doesn't know what they're doing lol
@VladDascaliuc
11 ай бұрын
Clearly defined weaknesses? Excuse me? There's at most 2 or 3 champions who can realistically do anything about Daisy. Everyone else is completely helpless if the Ivern is average or above.
@brandonwoodruff5836
11 ай бұрын
@@VladDascaliucI just want to watch yoricks maiden and daisy duke it out top lane. I’m a simple man with simple wants and needs
u forgot graves as a counter. his auto knocks back daisy and also applies a tiny stun.
Counters: Not ignoring Daisy's damage.
@zeal1972
11 ай бұрын
Nobody does that even in jg so why would someone do that in toplane
待ってた
Daisy's been hitting the gym lately
new dobby vid just dropped, lets go
Yorick's rework sounds fire
Finally high elo validation of my AP ivern build. Team always flames me for not building support XD. Never knew about the PTA trick thats really cool! did they recently change that?
It hasn't been long since this was posted and Inters are already playing this in my games.
This lee perfect gank timing is something you will never see in your game
Always amazed by how methodical and clean koreans play.
Actually, this is better idea of Ivern. I always imagine what if a champion can create his own mobile hideout and ambush the enemy. Playing tricks like Shaco or something. I wonder if Rito changes passive in the future
As a rengar main I love playing against iverns. Often they will literally set up bushes allowing me to kill their whole team.
Just played Ivern vs Yorick and it was the toughest pokemon battle yet, we lost to the completely unrelated 15/4/2 Lucian with 4 items though
Would taking smite help, or do you loose all your gold for farming minions instead of jungle camps?
Hey dobby this was a great watch but there is a certain reptilian creature in the toplane that needs a video do you think that can come out soon? thank you dobby and nice work as usual!
@popoi8810
11 ай бұрын
you mean rek'sai? there is already a video on that
@LoLDobby
11 ай бұрын
who is it~?
@randomguy19166
11 ай бұрын
You can't ask for a video and give hints about it. Gotta use your brain man. Ren, rammus, neeko, shy? They can all kinda fall into that category. Even dobby is asking who it is
@amaurysutre2494
11 ай бұрын
@@LoLDobbyI think he might be refering to Renekton
@derrickdabeast9064
11 ай бұрын
@@LoLDobbyrenekton please q
Pretty cool, though his passive was not mentioned once in the video. I'm surprised that there's no stealing camps section or something like that.
On this next episode of LoL Dobby, we watch Daisy top lane
No comments? Anyways good too see new Dobby video
it's a nice highlight but that cs lead is tough lol @ 1:00
this seriously feeding into bronzies thinking this was a lifehack to climb 😭😂
Man every time I see your posts pop up I instantly click onto them now. It’s like a reflex.
Ever since the rework was on PBE, I was waiting for some full AP lane players to emerge, it has so much potential, he can be very oppressive.
RETURN OF DUNK MASTER IVERN!!!!
what a time to be alive :0
7:51 cool warwick bug. working as intended since 2015
i love how Riot just giving up on making Ivern into a support and just decied to give him a bunch of dmg xD
@MastaFista
11 ай бұрын
Ivern got the rell treatment XD
We all have a fair share of wtf moments when we witness Iverns true potential.
Pog
since when daisy attacks apply Ivern's attack effect? She also deal bonus dmg when Ivern is in bush @@
It's fascinating how a 1 item Aatrox is completely useless against no items Ivern. Good job, Riot.
Daisy solokilling a Zed This is truly the League of Legends of League of Legends
The mark of good Ivern players is always how they use W
Now i want to give it a try 😂 dw, im not playing in ranked 🤙🏼
I hope they don't remove what makes ivern top possible, it's great to be able to play champ like these other than in their main role
@Think-again
11 ай бұрын
they should give him a tiny jungle clear buff, lose a bit less life for example and take away daisy on-hit procs. then you cant buy a lot of items that make him top viable like nashors for example
@brandonwoodruff5836
11 ай бұрын
@@Think-againor no.
@ArielGoV
11 ай бұрын
@@Think-again that would kill the champ again
Is daisy supposed to proc PTA? I feel like thats an oversight
daisy is a raidboss now
they called me crazy i knew i was ahead of my time
But who wins top lane yorick or ivern?
now waiting for muramana ivern to show up
Is "Q out" a new feat?
I always tought Ivern could be a good top lane, but unique thing that disquilify him was how bad Margarida(ultimate) behaves, now she is fast, attack fast and causes effect from itens/runes there is nothing to stop him (except a good nunu/Cho gath, MordrKaiser)
Now thats diablo in LoL
Wise Tree Gameplay
DOOOOOBBBYYYYY DOOOOOWWNNN!!
can you manip tower aggro like yorick?
I was testing Ivern nowadays and i prefer play wuth Grasp, it gives u option to take shield bash (it applies twice per E) and u get acces to revitalize, second i take futures market and cosmic. Rush RoA into cosmic most of the times, i feel like daisy needs to be 16 until she makes real use of nashors. When i play jg i take PtA instead.
lets go
just tried the build using aery, for some reason even after i bought rylai's, the empowered autos weren't applying slow at all. why is that?
@darkgrundi9543
11 ай бұрын
ivern has a few buggs where his W sometimes just straight up doesn't work.
7:50 what happened to warwick R?
in Brazil we have a challenger ivern player
how about jungle Dobby? Do you think this build is still strong as jungle Ivern?
@DevourerDragons
11 ай бұрын
it probably is
I played against this some days ago and there is simply no escaping daisy
This is the most cursed thumbnail i ever saw……..
Is the Ivern bug still live right now or fix? (suggest watch Vandril's 1 min vid of Ivern bug to know the context)
@LoLDobby
11 ай бұрын
I heard it was fixed !
@gallanomarkandrea.1787
11 ай бұрын
@@LoLDobby tnx
I'm wondering why he goes Liandrys and not the new Rageblade with extra onhits? But probably for the CDR mythic passive I guess?
@nsum2885
11 ай бұрын
damage. Ivern scales off ap, not attack speed or ad. Liandrys just gives everything you want. Ap, haste, mana, and %damage
Yea ivern pretty strong rn but I personally think people will now just take some time to get used to him, then he'll be somewhat fine, maybe small nerf but nothing more
former champion TPA Stanely also plays this
He chased Talon down and call him a "slow enemy"
@darkgrundi9543
11 ай бұрын
talon is slow, he can just jump over walls. A fast enemy would be something like Hecarim or Lillia,
S2 Stanley
this is new yorick
is korean masters the equivalent of challenger NA?
They should raise the kill gold on Daisy now that shes very useful.
Lore accurate ivern
W passive makes it easier to last hit - misses 2 cs back to back with W passive
I see comments about Ivern being spammed in ranked games. Well, at least Ivern has become more significantly popular compared to the recent years.
Crazy how many times Jayce died for free by holding Hammer E for next game
I'm not gonna deal with this pick i'll play Mordekaiser
How is this possible? maybe because they buffed daisy ms and somehow she also attacks like a machine gun? edit also: "apply on hit effects" since some patch
Counters: Your own jungler needed a leash :(
at least he is not 1 shot you in 0.1sec
yorick but taking your life instead of towers
7:50 What happened to the Warwick? Why did his R just not work?
@TockMinecraft
11 ай бұрын
It's a bug related to Daisy's bump, you can't really see the animation but the bump hits a second time with a weird stun. I saw this on Katevolved stream when he was playing Katarina, used R right after getting bumped and the exact same thing happened...
@VladDascaliuc
11 ай бұрын
@@TockMinecraft That's kinda bs. In that situation there I'm pretty sure WW would have killed him otherwise. Nice going, Riot.
You should find above Master.. Duo queue stops at Master
Why specifically top? Or can he run mid with this build also?
@kylelipka9133
11 ай бұрын
got hard stomped by an ivern mid last night
@darkgrundi9543
11 ай бұрын
midlane has more champs that can deal with ivern because of ranged cc onto daisy.
@fouchi3203
11 ай бұрын
it's viable mid you're just more open to ganks and can bully less due to fewer bruiser matchup, but it also means you can roam bot with jungler
Haven't watche the vid yet but Ive played against this on a plat game as jax, and let me tell u it was not fun, every time i engaged he'd shield himself up, root me and run away and perma harass me after pushing the wave using his bushes. Definetly a pick i gota try
If Ivern challenger top works, there's probably someone out there trying to make it to challenger with Yummi solo top then
tried, rally fun. Enemies underestimate the dmg
i still remember many people crying over his w changes in 13.10 But alone daisy buffs is huge. The q cd changes are kinda overkill