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@AFG.1
6 күн бұрын
vids 8 mins ago this comment is an hour, how? 😟
@misterperson3469
6 күн бұрын
@@AFG.1youtube lets you schedule when videos go live, even if they are fully uploaded already
@AFG.1
6 күн бұрын
@@misterperson3469 ohh makes sense thanks
@hotstepper887
5 күн бұрын
I'm English, and what I'd like to know, is why we read so many Americans making such ridiculous claims, like the F-22, is so much better than the Russian SU-57, (that relies on washing machine chip technology), and has the RCS (radar cross-section) of a Jumbo Jet? Seriously, just what on earth is that all about? Not only is that claim completely wrong, but it couldn't be any more wrong! The really obvious, and factual truth, is, they've no idea what the RCS of any military aircraft is, as they're always kept classified! But even more stupidly, they never even ask any of the most obvious questions, as they all, always, just assume so much! Questions like, what do either the F-22, or F-35's have available to them, to detect, track, and target enemy stealth aircraft, from BVR (beyond visual range)? And yet, if they had just asked that one, really obvious question, then maybe they'd understand, that today's reality is nothing at all, like they think! Seemingly, they don't even understand, that stealth alone, defeats high-frequency (short wave), radar, by absorption and deflection, but it does not defeat low-frequency (long wave radar). Therefore, to detect, track, and target enemy stealth aircraft from BVR, can be done with long-wave radar, (but it must also be enhanced), to remove all background clutter for targeting purposes. So, regardless of the aircraft's RCS (they all believe means so much), when they're being detected, tracked and targetted by long wave radar, they're far from stealthy, and they just light up, and they stand out like a beacon in the night. It also seems, they don't know that neither the APG-77 radar in the F-22, or the APG-81 radar in the F-35, have any kind of long wave radar, (hence, they can't detect any enemy stealth aircraft from BVR). So, just think about that, and what it actually means? This is also a fact, the US air force will be fully aware of, only it seems the reality is, when the F-35 radars were being designed 13 years ago, there were no other stealth aircraft to think about as a potential threat! So, obviously, we must ask, just what do the F-22, or the F-35, actually have available to them, to detect enemy stealth aircraft from BVR? They have, AWACS, (that can transfer all targetting data to the F-22 - F-35's in real time). Only, that's not possible today. And this is why actually understanding any potential adversaries, real abilities, becomes extremely important, critical in fact. As, on the other hand, we find this Russian SU-57, (rubbish) the Americans all claim, is equipped with a 5th generation radar, (with enhanced long-wave radar), their new Byelka (2band) radar used in SU-57. They can detect, track, and target enemy stealth jets from BVR, and very easily today. Russia has designed, and developed, the first L-Band fighter radar we've ever seen. They've embedded L-band AESA radars into the leading edges of the wings. The L-band AESA radar "data" gets processed in real time (through extremely powerful Russian computers), being significantly enhanced, removing all background clutter, seeing them perfectly able to detect, track, and engage enemy stealth aircraft from BVR. This new Russian radar technology, along with its very impressive range parameters, and it's jamming ability (over very large areas) make this aircraft deadly to all other aircraft types. (But according to the Americans), it's just Russian rubbish, right? They can also detect, track, and target enemy stealth fighters, long before they enter Russian airspace, (from much greater distances today), with "real-time" data from all those massive Russian ground (long wave stations), that are all protected with the networked S-400 defensive system. Russia's new (2band) radar, covers all frequencies across all channels, used for tracking, targeting, and also for jamming (over large areas). It's part of Sh121 multifunctional integrated radio electronic system (MIRES) on board the SU-57. We should also understand, that Russia tested this new radar suit in the SU-35's, so they also have the option of fitting this radar into the SU-35's. Seeing the SU-35 at no disadvantage against either the F-22/35. As although the SU-35 can be detected, tracked, targeted and shot down from BVR by the US stealth fighters, the SU-35 equipped with this new radar is just as able to detect, track, target and shoot down the US stealth fighters from BVR. Seeing the all-important, huge Russian advantage, in BVR missile range, plus the excellent manoeuvring, neither the F-22/F-35 have, as more than critical, (if you're going to avoid simply being blown out of the sky). The truth is, this new Russian 5th generation radar, design, has very clear potentials, to provide genuine shared multifunction apertures, with applications including... Search, track, and destroy, missile mid-course guidance, against low signature aircraft, identification of friend or foe with secondary surveillance radar. Passive angle tracking and geolocation of JTIDS-MIDS-Link-16 emitters at long ranges. Passive angle tracking and geolocation of L-band AEWC - AWACS and surface based search radars at long ranges. Passive angle tracking and geolocation of hostile (i.e. Western) IFF and SSR transponders at long ranges. High-powered active jamming of JTIDS-MIDS-Link-16 emitters. High-powered active jamming of satellite navigation receivers over large areas. High-powered active jamming of L-band AEWC-AWACS and surface based search radars at long ranges. High-powered active jamming of guided munition command data links over large areas. [Effectively, and completely, neutralizing the USA's use of AWACS for their detection]. The Tikhomirov NIIP L-band, AESA 5th generation radar, is an extremely important strategic development, and it's a technology which once fully matured and deployed in useful numbers, will render narrowband stealth designs like the F-22 & F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, and many, UAVs, as highly vulnerable to all flanker variants equipped with such radars. Furthermore, just what have the Americans, ever seen the F-22 actually, do? Well, other than flying over a beach, on a KZread video? Absolutely nothing!
@crazestyle83
3 күн бұрын
I thought they weren't invisible on radar... that it makes it impossible for counter measures to get a lock on the target to fire.
Jack Northrop was fortunate to see the B-2 prototype before he passed away.
@JarrodFrates
4 күн бұрын
Not the prototype, but a scale model, and it was in 1980. Northrop had not yet won the program, and construction on the prototype (which was also the first production plane) wouldn't begin for another few years, and it wasn't completed until 1987 or 1988.
"The future of military aviation will, without a doubt, be very triangle-shaped" lol I love this channel
"Comrade, that bee is flying at Mach 2. Is that normal?"
Flying wings are great but they'd make terrible airliners because passengers sitting at any distance from the center of the aircraft would experience roll motions very strongly.
@ryshellso526
6 күн бұрын
Say that like it's a bad thing... maybe I want the roller-coaster experience..
@swaggery
5 күн бұрын
There are private jets.
@willythemailboy2
5 күн бұрын
Not just that, but it would be nearly impossible to meet the emergency exit requirements.
@garythecyclingnerd6219
4 күн бұрын
Eh, still you see concepts of airliners which are much more wing shaped. It’s 100% possible but Boeing would rather cut quality and R&D costs rather than innovate, which is why the French make better passenger planes now
@user-iv7us4gp4l
3 күн бұрын
Agree...I used to take a worker driver bus (greyhound style) to work everyday. They are fine out on the highway but suck bad on city streets where the road often slants one way or the other and you end up moving up and down what feels like 3 feet...it was a roller coaster ride to say the least :>)
Grandpa Buff is never going away.
@JarrodFrates
4 күн бұрын
It's getting upgraded with new engines and radar.
Lift isn't what determines range ... DRAG at the flown altitude relative to the available fuel stores does. A high Lift : Drag ratio or L/D allows it to carry a large payload, which includes fuel. But it's the ratio, never just "lift."
Like how the B2 looks like an eagle from the side
@jakalantheman3402
5 күн бұрын
i'd say it looks more like a falcon while diving, a lot of modern aircraft are inspired by bird shapes
Bro u explain so good!! I know more about military stuff then I know about anything in school! Love u bro
@Rotorhead1651
6 күн бұрын
*than
@PureRushXevus
6 күн бұрын
@@Rotorhead1651 the irony xD
@croozerdog
6 күн бұрын
@@Rotorhead1651 be nice to the kid
@NotWhatYouThink
6 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoy our stuff!
@HiemsLikesDucks
5 күн бұрын
@@Rotorhead1651 XD see? I told u I know better about military stuff THAN school.
Just to clarify, nuclear submarines aren’t considered necessarily superior to diesel- electric submarines. Submarine stealth is centred around sound emissions and a quirk of nuclear subs is the need for certain machinery to stay active for safe operation of the reactor. This means when the boat is rigged for a “silent running” state (now referred to as ultra-quiet), even with the prop stationary, a nuclear sub will always emit a base level of audio emission. Diesel- electric subs in comparison don’t have such machinery and so have a far quieter audio signature while running in a similar ultra-quiet state. Submarines are never optimised for radar stealth because the main goal is to never surface in the first place. Most if not all air dependent submarines are fitted with snorkels so even they technically never need to surface for air.
@luther0013
2 күн бұрын
However Radar deflecting shapes shush as those used on the F-117 also make submarines harder to detect on active sonar as Radar waves act quite similar to sound waves in water.
@Uajd-hb1qs
2 күн бұрын
@@luther0013 Indeed.
My favorite fact about flying wings is that Northrup (the guy) was able to see the B2’s first flight
Let's be honest here. Despite most people not liking the movie, "Stealth" was ahead of its time. I know I still enjoy it when I watch
@codename1176
4 күн бұрын
That was a fun one still own the DVD
@muhazreen
Күн бұрын
F-37 Talon design soo good that it became reason i like to play ace combat❤. I wish i can build detailed model of it
Fun fact, the taxi ways for the b2's are painted red on the tarmacs. Before a b2 starts to taxi an alarm is sounded for all personnel to vacate these painted areas because most people don't have clearnace to get anywhere near them. Guard towers have orders to basically shoot anything that moves inside the red zone when the b2's start taxiing. My cousin and a college of his were in the red zone when the alarms started to sound. So they ran like hell to get out of the taxi zone.
@taitai4993
6 күн бұрын
is it does lines on the tarmac that i've seen on military airfields? the description is the same I believe just want to know if i saw the in person.
@syntactyx
6 күн бұрын
this sounds like complete bullshit. do you have any corroborating source on any of that? B2's use the same taxiways as every other aircraft. they are not painted red. and why would your cousin and colleague be in a taxiway?? your story makes zero sense.
@syntactyx
6 күн бұрын
@@taitai4993no. the only red things you will ever see on an airfield are red signs that indicate important intersections where pilots "hold position" much like a stop sign. Every entrance to a runway from a taxiway will have the runway numbers on a red sign, and often there will also be a painted on indication of the runway numbers on the tarmac as well. i guarantee that's probably what you saw. there are various things that can be indicated with a red sign so could be any one of them. but it definitely wasn't a special goddam taxiway like the original commenter is trying to say exist 😂
@95dodgev10
6 күн бұрын
@@syntactyx did I say sign? No there are red lines painted on the tarmac. If you watch the video you'll see a red line painted infront of the hanger. All of this is coming from my cousin who was stationed at Whiteman airforce base.
@95dodgev10
6 күн бұрын
@@syntactyx my previous reply above this one answers your question.
6:40 Parasitic drag is a combination of skin friction drag and form drag. Change in shape only affects form, whilst increase in surface area changes skin friction drag. Induced drag only occurs when lift is generated. There is also wave drag as the in transonic and supersonic speeds.
Thanks for sharing guys!
16:10 Highly doubt it. Grandpa Buff will outlive them all.
@LaczPro
6 күн бұрын
Huh, a man of culture.
@SmooreMC85
3 күн бұрын
The Buff is eternal.
Awesome B2 footage. Great video thank u.
Thanks, I love what you do
Interesting Video.THX-🇺🇸
Awesome
Yooo *this* is Awesome! The B2 🤘
Well, RCS isn't fixed scale. It can be larger or smaller depending on the wave length and where it come from. B-21 isn't the replacement of the B-52, B-21 only replace the B-2 and B-1B.
@luther0013
2 күн бұрын
B-52 will remain in service as long as the Air Force continues to operate.
I think you used the wrong clip in the beginning. I only see a United 777...
Dorito is also making a comeback with the aerospace industry
Very nice discription
@ 6:12 be careful what you say 😂😂 that was said for so many planes 🤣
Nothing can replace the BUFF.
@outofturn331
5 күн бұрын
Except a bigger buff
I love this guy’s voice! It’s like a Simpson’s construct of a far Eastern Charles Bronson. Superb.
O like the soundtrack - it reminds of the cool no BS shows of the late 90s.
Thanks for explaining unit cost.
@USMC6169
5 күн бұрын
It also includes the runways, buildings, tooling, materials, computers, security clearances (secret clearances was $50k in 1990 for reference, top secret was $100k), spares for 20 yrs to name a few. Imagine buying a car, paying for the road to your house, your garage, all spares you’d use for 20 yrs and mechanics to maintain it for 20 yrs. Think your car would only cost $50k?
@luther0013
2 күн бұрын
@@USMC6169 a lot of people as forget this also applies in NASA’s rockets which is why the SLS currently seems to have a price per flight that is spiralling upwards because it has only flown once and only 2 new rockets are under construction currently not to mention cost overruns with the ground systems which is responsible for the price per launch increases.
not gonna lie, that echo bit was a nice touch
I think development costs are somewhat deceptive because a lot of the concepts learned from the development benefit additional/future projects, bringing their development costs down from what they would be otherwise.
Edit, the Iranian flying wing drones are already armed. Even some propeller driven drones have some small bombs
I came here to check by Google advertisement saying that's B2 bomber have upgraded to have a sub machine gun hidden in secret for any case 😅🎉❤ Oh 😱 sorry 😐 My reading in Google advertisements took a wrong concept 😅😢🎉
Good progress on explaining that stealth is not invisibility, at last. But still half of inside story is untold - visibility to search radars vs SAM vs AAM radars. Long waves can see them, short waves got hard time detect and lock.
@unotoli
3 күн бұрын
Vertical stabilisers drag and "turn" capabilities should also be re-considered ;)
What do you mean, ultimate stealth machine? It's right there!
I wonder if tails decrease efficiency just because they increase drag or also because stabilizers usually have a negative lift. Moreover, I wonder if B2, B21 or in general long-range stealth airplanes could carry air-to-air missiles to take at least part of fighters' role or if that isn't a good idea, as it is better to use stealth bombers to destroy anti-aircraft systems and air bases and leave the rest of the job to stealth fighters or conventional planes.
It was exactly what I thought this time.
It was exactly what I thought🙂
We need this... as an airliner. Probably doesn't need to be stealthy so stick a tail rudder for extra stability at expense of some drag?
The radar cross section is due to geometry, but not in the way indicated. It is more related to invisibility than reflection!
"How does the flying wing stay stable in flight without a tail?" "That's the neat part. You don't!"
You take that back. Grandpa buff is forever
Kind to think of it,it kinda looks like a piece of a boomerang broken in half
There are both advantages and disadvantages with nuclear submarines. The disdavantages include higher cost to purchase, higher cost to operate, larger size, larger crew, more noisy, the inability, do hide on the sea floor or run to close to the sea floor (because the cooling of the reactor could suck up sediments) and the submarine being possible to detect, via the nuclear isotopes and hydrogen that it dumps into the sea. The avantages is greater (but noisy) speed for longer transits, greater endurance, and that they never needs to get close to the surface. So nuclear submarines are relatively more useful for nations with global commitments, and nations that need to escort aircraft carriers. D/E-subs are relatively more useful for nations that needs to operate closer to port and/or in shallow waters.
A bumblebee sized object travelling at 400mph and 50000ft for arguments sake is unlikely to be anything other than a stealth aircraft right?
I'm going to guess it has something to do with striking anywhere anytime anyhow
With the range of surface to air missiles ever increasing , you need something able to get close without being seen till its too long
It is what you think.
Why is there no mentioning of the Horten 229 from Germany in WWII? It did not see any combat, but it flew already then. As the Allies took just about everything out of vanquished Germany, this design was certainly something that the Americans used for their developments. Just like the V2 rocket.
4:07 worn out tires?? 😰
Damn those WWII flying bombers are cool as F.
The buff is forever
Love how the planes from Stealth are always thought to be the 6th gen fighters
Make a video on how many aircraft the US lostin Vietnam
Turns out to be exactly what I thought.
I'm convinced that the primary reason we don't travel in blended fuse/wing aircraft is the psychological shock to travelers. Their construction presents no special challenges.
We are on the cutting edge of the triangle.
You say YB-49 .. I say .. why not?
Excellent work, as always! It's a shame the USAF doesn't let you tour their planes like the Navy did. :)
@NotWhatYouThink
6 күн бұрын
It’s just a matter of time 😁
@thomasmontoya302
6 күн бұрын
@@NotWhatYouThink I hope I'll be here to see it when that day comes! :)
So AC7's MQ-99 and MQ-101 is somewhat real. It won't be long before we'd see Arsenal Bird-like planes that could carry lots of these drones.
I saw a B-2 when I was hiking one day, it was flying pretty low and you could hear it from a while away.
@rhokirsolx
5 күн бұрын
I've seen them do low flyovers multiple times at the Rose Parade. When they're flying head-on, they're surprisingly quiet. Most of the time, without checking the timing, we wouldn't have known it was even coming until it passed over us. Only once it had gone past (and from the side as it banked) were we able to finally hear the roar of the engines. Incredible aircraft.
Touch of Stealth movie props😂
the hand outside the window is Not What You Think!😂
Plus it just looks so cool 😎 lol
Looks like Flying Doritos are a thing now… so what’s next? More flying Doritos? 😂
after seeing how Russia has performed in Ukraine I doubt they can make more than 3 drones.
I always liked Thunderbird 2. Turns out it wasn't scifi, it was just 50 years ahead of its time... 😂
I had to make three attempts to get this video to load. The reason I got from KZread was that it has sponsor. When I saw the ad, I understood why KZread ran its interference.
That ECHO, ECHo, Echo, echo, ech, ec, e, .....
When talking of history of flying wings you focus just on the US. But the idea is much older then that. First flying flying wing 🫣 date back to before WW I.
After Iran captured the drones, did the US try anything to destroy them? I imagine they weren't super happy about that.
Gonna need some AI processing for the collected radar data.
Free range freedom dispensers
Nobody in the real world says "I think I'll go consume some news today. Must you use the depersonalized jargon of the Haavaad MBA programme?
Perhaps Radar Signals could be severely jammed via Drones transmitting Radar signals in the opposite Direction.
Me realizing that in a totally global nuclear apocalypse, only nuclear submarines and a few navy vessels (and their crews) would survive.
Arsenal Birds are eating good with this one
when comes a ho229 video? you always mention yb49 but overlook ho229
@CharlieH99
3 күн бұрын
Nevwr hopefully. Can't say a thing about flying wing without hoerton brother's sympathisers claiming how hoertons were first with that desing...
@cwf_media9200
3 күн бұрын
@@CharlieH99 Well it was so duh. It flew without a tail stabilizer it was straight up better no sympathy needed
God... Where do you GET some of these videos... I swear some of these feel classified.
@NotWhatYouThink
5 күн бұрын
Finding great footage is once of the things we are good it … and no, none of it is classified :-)
the BUFF is eternal
Lot to learn
first video i watched today 💪
The BUFF is Forever
Jack Northrop at least got to see his dream fly.
Imagine hypersonic engines on the B-2 that would be unstoppable combo
@USMC6169
5 күн бұрын
It wouldn’t be stealth then. You’re supersonic footprint would give it away, not to mention heat, and your radar cross-section would go to crap because of the heat generated around your air frame, which you couldn’t use the special materials.
@nathansmith3608
Күн бұрын
Eh, I think it would be stopped by its own aerodynamics, losing control & breaking apart somewhere between Mach 0.8-1.4, regardless of the engines you used. The idea of an armed space plane is pretty cool though, even if it's not practical in the foreseeable future.
It is so lucky for stealth bombers that AI can't learn to track a bumblebee in the clutter doing 500mph.
16:55 ,bro china copes every detail of the b-21 raider and made a side copy of it just by watching a video of its inauguration
$700 million per aircraft The versions of the 2017 NDAA as initially passed by the House and Senate would have required public disclosure of the total cost of the B-21, but this provision was removed in the final conference report version. In December 2022, the cost of the B-21 was estimated at $700 million per aircraft. The average unit procurement cost (APUC) for the B-21 Raider stealth bomber is $692 million as of 2022, which includes the cost of aircraft, support equipment, training, spares, and engineering change orders. The Air Force estimates that the total cost to develop, purchase, and operate a fleet of at least 100 B-21s over 30 years will be at least $203 billion. However, in January 2024, Northrop Grumman reported a $1.56 billion charge on B-21 development in the fourth quarter of 2023, citing rising production costs and macroeconomic disruptions. This led to a $535 million loss for the company in the quarter. Northrop Grumman's president and CEO, Kathy Warden, said that she believes it's likely that each of the first five lots of low rate initial production (LRIP) will be performed at a loss. However, in April 2024, the Pentagon cut its cost forecast for the B-21 by $2 billion, requesting $2.7 billion for procurement in fiscal 2025, compared to the $4 billion projected in 2022.
Why isn’t there a B2 refuelers. He could carry huge amount of fuel instead of bombs.
16:34 I highly doubt that
@theglitch312
5 күн бұрын
If Russian were able to hit their proposed manufacturing targets, we'd already be drowning in T14 Armatas and SU-57 Fighter Bombers. SU-75? Similar story. First scheduled maiden flight was 2023. Then 2024. Currently 2025...
Solution, stealth tanker
thank you . ( 2024 / June / 26 )
6th gen is already flying. Its just classified. 😊
4:33 What is it on the left? I think it's just a joke...
But why would a radar tech not be suspicious of a bee flying at more than 500mph at 60000 feet?
how did a 17 minute video about flying wings not mention the horten Ho 129 or Ho 229, The grand parents of all flying wings
@USMC6169
5 күн бұрын
Because the grandfather of all flying wings is jack northrop. His first flying wing flew in 1929.
@grapes008
5 күн бұрын
@@USMC6169 so we just ignoring them because they were built during the second global disagreement. Also, northop didn't fly the scale model until 1940 the N-1M. Then there are all the gliders that existed. If you take that into account gliders was first experimenting with in 1924.
@USMC6169
5 күн бұрын
@@grapes008YT ghosted my first response. no one is ignoring them. I was addressing the statement that they were the grandparents, and they were not. Their flying wing designs didn’t start until ~1940. Their first jet powered wing in 1944-45 never made it off the ground before WWII ended. Northrops first prop powered wing flew in 1929. And if it flew in 1929, and he built it himself, he’d been thinking about it for years and years before flight.
@grapes008
5 күн бұрын
@@USMC6169 and yet, I can't find a single trace online to verify.
@USMC6169
4 күн бұрын
including the Horton brothers contributions
Y B 49? B 52
Bing Bong
Why not build a B2 refueling tanker? Which is a stealth tanker too
@nightjarflying
5 күн бұрын
Next-Generation Air Refueling System program, also known as KC-Z, aims to replace KC-46 and KC-135 tankers with a stealth tanker in the 2030s.