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@valentinogal781

3 жыл бұрын

Actually I couldn't stop crying at the end. 😭😭😭😭

@Musiclife-nw8qp

3 жыл бұрын

YES!

@valentinogal781

3 жыл бұрын

@@tashwuzhair exactly.. I was wondering about that. I was thinking like, wait a minute didn't they do that in front of her?

@valentinogal781

3 жыл бұрын

@@tashwuzhair Good Catch.. Did you catch the 4 candle and why it didn't flicker?

@shubhanshusingh4839

3 жыл бұрын

I dont think it was the lack of horror because of which this show didn't live upto the name of its predecessor. I think the way character development was done in hill house and how everyone's emotional build-up is shown is what made people really correlate with the characters. You dont get to connect as much emotionally in this show. That being said the ending is still super emotional

The fact that Dani sacrificed her life for the kids, but none of them remember her as they grow up makes my heart ache.

@alejandroterzado2068

3 жыл бұрын

Well Dani knew that’s what was happening and that they would forget her and she was alright with it

@imsleepy6211

3 жыл бұрын

@Gurren D'vongè selfish? How so? Coming to terms that you're gay, especially in a highly homophobic society is really difficult. You really do think that the feelings aren't "real". You think the feelings you're supposed to have WILL come, because they're supposed to, because that's how it's "supposed" to be. Plus, back then in America, if you were a teacher and people knew you were gay you could get fired. She wasn't selfish at all, she was confused and scared. Being in that situation is so hard and really tears you apart - I felt that way and I wasn't even in a homophobic family.

@whitneym495

3 жыл бұрын

i liked that she knew she could meaningfully help kids and she did that. it's a very sad ending though :(

@whitneyhenery8888

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly @Bikash Nayak

@cinderellacomplex7

3 жыл бұрын

@Gurren D'vongè How was she being selfish? Coming to terms with your sexuality isn't something that can be rushed or controlled. If she was actually selfish, she wouldn't even show remorse but she was clearly upset over it. Don't be a dick.

I still can't believe that she told a 9 hour long story on a wedding eve tho. lmao

@Noa......

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, she said it was not a short story. And they have the free will to leave. 🤣

@eszemaszeszed

3 жыл бұрын

@@Noa...... yeah, still. 9 hours.

@oof8421

3 жыл бұрын

But it wasn’t though. Telling is faster than showing. E.g. reading the synopsis of a movie is faster than watching the whole thing. I’d guess she told the story in 2 hours or so.

@mungobrass

3 жыл бұрын

And a couple of guys were still standing at the end of it! Bet they had sore feet

@pseudosligh

3 жыл бұрын

LOL

Dani was terrified of seeing her ex fiance's reflection and Jamie waited her whole life wishing to see Dani's reflection. This story was so beautifully written 😭

@divyanagavi4892

3 жыл бұрын

Woah.

@jeremyn2008

3 жыл бұрын

Omg! Damn! Wow! Splendid!! 😭😭

@vrishtidharan3697

3 жыл бұрын

Oh that's why she always looked in the water filled tub

@swiftlylovestruck

3 жыл бұрын

omg SO TRUE i just realised!

@musesummers5021

3 жыл бұрын

I spent the whole night watching it and i feel like crying every moment at how beautiful their love was. It wasnt the main focus we didnt get millions of kiss and all that but I just felt the love they had. The last episode showed the strength of their love and complete turn a horror series into a timeless love tale.

I think the most shocking part was finding out Hanna had died literal seconds before Flora and Dani walk up to the well

@deva4165

3 жыл бұрын

agree

@abhinavs03

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@pareshd1310

3 жыл бұрын

I don't understand the Hannan thing, after her death she makes alibis for not having tea or food, but than sits and has a bottle of wine at the bonfire...

@barry2349

3 жыл бұрын

@@pareshd1310 that bottle is empty...

@emeraldramos8384

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it’s a little weird too cause Peter and Hanna were dead but for some reason Hanna could touch people and Peter couldn’t ?

Peter is the real devil here. Killing Hannah, his girlfriend and the kids!

@MavisRileyJunior

3 жыл бұрын

Well technically he didnt kill the kids only possed them briefly.

@coreykelt9204

3 жыл бұрын

And he wouldn't have done it if not for his mother blackmailing him into stealing

@earthbruja5268

3 жыл бұрын

Ohh pfft his mommy issues suck but he was evil

@aaliyahlin3920

3 жыл бұрын

@@earthbruja5268 you guys are forgetting he was molested and possibly raped.

@SuperLovehp

3 жыл бұрын

@@aaliyahlin3920 not all victims of abuse become abusers. It's a choice. Although i feel sorry for his past he chose the easy path of using other people to save himself. I don't think he's evil, but not good either

"The Bly manor" was a different type of horror... it was a sad type of horror... the scariest things sometimes are not the ghosts but losing someone you love... the whole theme of this show was that, everybody lost someone they deeply cared about. The children lost their parents, the uncle lost his lover, the nanny lost her boyfriend, Viola lost her family and Jamie lost her wife... a scary sad cycle of losing something you truly love and slowly losing yourself for it... I CRIED SO MUCH D:

@yamahaguy1732

3 жыл бұрын

It was certainly different I loved the show it was completely different that hill house like you said it’s sad horror not really a show to scare you but the horror aspect allows the story to go deeper

@Emidoki

3 жыл бұрын

My boyfriend actually liked this better than Hill House, somehow he thought this was less depressing? Maybe it's because of how HH was drawn out and some people don't like that?

@keziahwilliams9382

3 жыл бұрын

OMG I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT CRIED! Yusssss

@thaodo7477

3 жыл бұрын

@@keziahwilliams9382 Damn it. Im crying hard rn

@scoob1551

3 жыл бұрын

@@thaodo7477 Just finished and am boo hooing pretty hard

I was pissed Peter killed Rebecca, over his own selfish needs

@chezraks

3 жыл бұрын

And Hannah too which makes me more pissed.

@Sheabuttahbaby

3 жыл бұрын

How did he kill Rebecca?

@tatisteatime7399

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sheabuttahbaby possessed her and walked her into a lake where she drowned

@shellcracker18

3 жыл бұрын

He was truly sorry though at the end

@feazy5479

3 жыл бұрын

Well, I think if he was really selfish he would have left in her body. But if both of them are dead they can leave together.

Isn’t it creepy and weird how they were going to possess the children’s bodies . Like beca and Peter were a couple and floral and Miles are brother and sister . ....

@parasite1129

3 жыл бұрын

Finally someone said it xD

@lottiecavaticat

3 жыл бұрын

Half brother and sister. Not any better though

@heenaim

3 жыл бұрын

they are half brother and sister and also cousins. Flora is actually daughter of Peter's uncle as his uncle is having affair with mom

@Peachess2717

3 жыл бұрын

@@heenaim half cousins half siblings . They share their moms blood,still gross

@heenaim

3 жыл бұрын

@@Peachess2717 but i think it's still legal in law. but,at first i thought they will possess dani and the chef. didn't expect they will get the kids instead 😂

At the start of the season, i was kinda freaked out and on edge, but the last episode made me bawl my eyes out. This show was insane.

@meredithpena9802

3 жыл бұрын

Right?? I did not expect to cry as much as I did.

@triciamcmillan2653

3 жыл бұрын

Same.

@sherrylldominique4990

3 жыл бұрын

Same! This was a sad season

@Veryy_Victoriaa

3 жыл бұрын

I bawled on a few episodes, especially the one about Hannah. Despite the criticism, I actually liked this season

@JackPardungsin

3 жыл бұрын

I cry a lot it’s truly love story

Victoria Pedretti in Haunting of HH: **dies** Haunting of BM: **dies** _Perfectly Splendid_

@Emidoki

3 жыл бұрын

Was hoping her character would get a happy ending for once...

@ubzSS

3 жыл бұрын

i can't wait to see how her next haunting character ends. haha

@kennyfiveg4988

3 жыл бұрын

In “You” : *kills someone*

@Emidoki

3 жыл бұрын

@@kennyfiveg4988 🤣

@hyfive2111

3 жыл бұрын

@@kennyfiveg4988 its obviously just Viola taking over her

i also find it interesting that viola was sick for 6 years until she died, which is the same amount of time that dani had until she was completely consumed by viola

@rosyv5081

3 жыл бұрын

YOOOO. That’s a really great point.

@uncreativename6210

3 жыл бұрын

@@rosyv5081 thanks!

@priscillacruz-sanchez6094

3 жыл бұрын

Owen told Jamie and Dani that flora was 17 while they were at his restaurant. That would make Dani and Jamies time together about 9 years since floras 8 in the beginning.

@Dina-uy2pg

3 жыл бұрын

Oh my god, you are absolutely right o_o

@uncreativename6210

3 жыл бұрын

@@priscillacruz-sanchez6094 well maybe i don't know how to count

Owen’s actor did a phenomenal job. His pain over his mother and Hannah was palpable. Him and Hannah never getting to be together was just infuriating to me.

@divyanagavi4892

3 жыл бұрын

Ya

@stachedude

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, and he was great in Midnight Mass too!

Hannah's picture up in Owen's restaurant made me happy cry.

@rileyshae7896

3 жыл бұрын

The whole last episode had me crying

@teresamckeown5594

3 жыл бұрын

I cried through the whole last episode. Geez. Like I was watching THIS IS US.

@iluvdissheet

3 жыл бұрын

Did anyone catch the name of Owen's restaurant? Seems to be one of his puns but do they actually say the name?

@pallbearer1175

3 жыл бұрын

@@iluvdissheet A Butter Place I believe

@iluvdissheet

3 жыл бұрын

@@pallbearer1175 really?!?! 😊 thats awesomesauce

I UGLY cried so hard when Hanna realized she was dead and had chosen to tuck herself in the memory of first meeting Owen. The love that never truly got to blossom and I found that tragic. Ugh, right in the feels

@LuvThyMind29

3 жыл бұрын

Legit it's a strong message about just going for it and living.

@lovely1641

2 жыл бұрын

My theory is that is why she sees those cracks so often: she's likely reliving the last thought that went through her head before she died over and over and they all end in that crack

The kid who played Miles is a brilliant young actor! I caught on right away that he was possessed by Peter because his mannerisms matched Peter’s but it was so subtle. All of the actors did a great job!

@leveluproberts6496

3 жыл бұрын

I caught that very early too but my assumption was he was possessed my multiple ghost not just Peter.

@anjolaxo3875

3 жыл бұрын

I just thought he was a psychopath. He killed that bird ( earliest signs of being a psychopath) but got off because his Daddy was swimming in money. Not to mention he was extremely perverted.

@janedoll3237

2 жыл бұрын

@@anjolaxo3875 eh, animal abuse is often not taken seriously, unfortunately. It’s not surprising that he got away with just an expulsion. He probably only got punished at all because it was a pet. He did it intentionally so that Flora wouldn’t have to be alone with the ghosts. Still disturbing behavior, of course. He behaved perverted when he was possessed.

@FLdancer00

2 жыл бұрын

I thought both kids were being possessed by their parents who died before their time and wanted to have more time on earth. That's why they weren't scared of being taken over or sad that their parents were dead.

@thefootenotes5524

2 жыл бұрын

Same! Before I saw Peter to know he possessed Myles, I kept saying to my mom, “He’s possessed. That isn’t a little boy-that’s a grown man in that boy’s body.” The way he spoke and moved was so off putting-especially when he whispered in Dani’s ear and tucked her hair. It set my radar off immediately. Then when I saw how Peter acted, I knew immediately he was inside Myles!

I hear a lot of people saying how they don’t know how dani knew to say that. She was literally just tied up in the attic and witness the kids saying it to two ghost. That’s where she figured to give that line a shot. Duh

@sunshinejewel2952

3 жыл бұрын

The stupidity of people is really astounding

@Freak-tionxc0mic

3 жыл бұрын

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@isswaryaarjunan9266

3 жыл бұрын

i completely forgot that lmaooo

@faithl2067

3 жыл бұрын

I want to know how Peter found out! It seems like he was the first to posse people, like how those words!?

@pattykrabbies

3 жыл бұрын

@@faithl2067 I believe since he’s been dead he’s heard the line from the other ghosts or maybe Viola? Not sure but that’s what I assumed

That’s why Hannah wasn’t hungry for the entire series, I guess she was in denial of her own dead. She didn’t drink, didn’t eat either.

@leonieleonie4472

3 жыл бұрын

But she drank the wine at the campfire or am I wrong

@drlee2

3 жыл бұрын

The very first scene where she told Dani she wasn't hungry and left the table had me wondering. Then next couple of times she refused drinks and food, I was like, yeah...ghost! lol

@linds3685

3 жыл бұрын

@@drlee2 me too!! she never ate and someone would always point it out. only drank tea and wine

@sarahcampbell3995

3 жыл бұрын

I thought she drank wine at the bonfire

@Mikeybdarealest

3 жыл бұрын

@@leonieleonie4472 I think she was in a "dream" when she was drinking that .

Whenever you see Victoria Pedretti in something just assume her character will meet a horrible fate at the end.

@poisonharley

3 жыл бұрын

Except in You... it seemed like her character Love got exactly what she wanted in the end

@n8s246

3 жыл бұрын

@@poisonharley lets see her fate in season 3 😂

@diegonin5181

3 жыл бұрын

@@poisonharley Well her brother died and her husband dont love her so idk

@andrewjudeus6283

3 жыл бұрын

Love from "You" would have been like "Pft, I've been dealing with ghosts of my own my entire life, this is a walk in the park."

@andrewjudeus6283

3 жыл бұрын

@@n8s246 I am pretty sure that between Love and Joe, Love would win. Joe hesitates for his kills, Love is a relentless savage.

A really interesting thing about Bly Manor as compared to Hill House is that this assortment of characters in Bly Manor Dani, Hannah, Owen, Jamie and the children felt like a real family who got along exceptionally well, yet most of them weren't related, but in Hill House all the main characters were actually related and they were always angry and at odds with each other.

@jaymeerenee2357

3 жыл бұрын

very true, family is not always blood, I have a lot of experience with that lol

@yan-rs3fy

3 жыл бұрын

but i think hill house showed that some families have issues and sibling are always fighting but cared for each other the same time

@Freak-tionxc0mic

3 жыл бұрын

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@chouyang7128

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaymeerenee2357 lmao me too. Blood family is overrated

@jaymeerenee2357

3 жыл бұрын

@@chouyang7128 extremely haha

For me, there was a very strong dimensia theme throughout. - the cook's mother (literal) - the faces vanishing - tucked away into memories When Dani realises she doesn't know how much time she has left and then starts losing herself and declining, all reminds me of the effects of dimensia

@casualsamurai

3 жыл бұрын

Ive seen a lot of people say Hannah’s episode had a dementia theme too

@Sleepless3

3 жыл бұрын

Great point! My grandmother had Alzheimers. Whenever we spoke on the phone we would speak about the same thing over and over again, I was just happy to call her.

@sitcomchristian6886

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, that made me profoundly sad. My grandma is dying of Parkinson's/Alzheimer's. She is an amazing person. She's still in there, she just can't get out. Due to covid regulations, I'll probably never see her again. I miss her a lot.

@thefootenotes5524

2 жыл бұрын

So sorry to hear that! I hope you get to see her!

@gracedaphne1213

Жыл бұрын

This series reminds me of the music video of Constance by Spiritbox.

Jamie and Dani spend at least 9 years together. In the restaurant, Owen says that Flora is 17. She's 8 at the start of the series.

@emyf9197

3 жыл бұрын

Right that would make flora 41 in 2020... so how is she young n getting married??

@davidchahua89

3 жыл бұрын

Tiki80 They’re getting married in 2007 not 2020

@ashleyamelia08

3 жыл бұрын

@UCGsj-KAViiMih0nyrvTb1KQ yes

@dj-bodied-you593

3 жыл бұрын

This real

@olir5045

3 жыл бұрын

i don’t see your point because that’s correct... 8+9=17??

victoria pedretti in season 1: bent neck lady victoria pedretti in season 2: lady in the lake

@ricericericericericerice

3 жыл бұрын

victoria pedretti in season 3 : bent neck lady in the lake

@iamwhoiambecausethelordlov3893

3 жыл бұрын

@@ricericericericericerice 🤣🤣

@AWoody87

3 жыл бұрын

And two dead husbands

@MrThegreatuser

3 жыл бұрын

Serial killer in you.

@chrisbreezy-ryanbarbosa4320

3 жыл бұрын

I just expect her to meet a horrible ending worse then death in every series she is in now...

I always get chills down my spine when I think of two moments: when Peter possessed Rebecca and drowned her he left her to drown alone - she wasn’t tucked away but back in her body just in time to experience her death. And another thing when Viola took Flora and Rebecca wanted to tuck her away one last time to spare her from experiencing death and experiencing the very same death for the second time herself

@kimvyn.1238

3 жыл бұрын

its beautiful, rebecca’s character, her life and beyond were so tragic

@Lanaashley19

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly beautifully tragic almost

@luiousy7329

2 жыл бұрын

Peter is a fucking dumpsterfire omg

@TamaraInTanzania

Жыл бұрын

I couldn't figure out what happened. I was so confused

The whole spirit thing never leaving bly for so long to the point they aren’t even sane and their faces just fade away slowly is so terrible. This show is so sad and intense

@Freak-tionxc0mic

3 жыл бұрын

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@Blueeyesinthesky

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah Ik but it’s amazing. Like if a show can make you feel this much it’s doing a good job

@gayanakaamarasena9236

3 жыл бұрын

I think it is a reference to Dementia as well. How your memories slowly fade away and in the end, you only see what's in front of you. Like the lady in the lake

@VaiskHD

3 жыл бұрын

@@gayanakaamarasena9236 the season was a huge analogy to dementia, directly up to the mother of Owen to the point you made and to the point when Dani was saying about how she was still there and still felt Jamie and everything but at the same time she wasn't really there and slowly fading away... I can only imagine this is what dementia feels like when you're starting to feel the effect

@gayanakaamarasena9236

3 жыл бұрын

@@VaiskHD Wow, yeah you are right..Amazing how they incorporated a horror story to depict a real-life horrific disease. Masterful storytelling

Didn’t Dani hear Peter say “it’s you, it’s me, it’s us” to Miles before he took over his body? I thought that was how she knew what to say to Viola at the Lake

@Kaedesis

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@urbent3147

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah this guy dont pay much attention

@Amazonagent

3 жыл бұрын

@@urbent3147 He's not the only one that missed that. I think because there is a lot going on in that scene some people miss that he says that in front of Dani when she is tied up. She saw the transfer happen so she probably remembered that to save Flora.

@KaNoMikoProductions

3 жыл бұрын

Although even the show admits that her saying that makes no fucking sense.

@jumpityjump3

3 жыл бұрын

Good catch-observant and impressive!

One of dani's eyes also began changing it's colour the more the spirit of the "lady in the lake" started to take over her, also earlier in the series when Ms jessel let peter in, one of her eyes became the shade of his Don't know if anyone else noticed that

@wangcyang89

3 жыл бұрын

Hard to not notice, one brown and one blue lol.

@Kaedesis

3 жыл бұрын

I did. You are right

@SY-nq3qp

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I dont think that was hard to notice lol

@_evelling_

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed this towards the end.

@anishabaidya1823

3 жыл бұрын

It happened to Miles too once he let Peter in ( permanently)

dani and jamie’s story is one of the most beautiful love stories i’ve ever seen

@LuvThyMind29

3 жыл бұрын

Though I much prefer women, I'd have to say The Notebook's love story was the most beautiful to me. It helped that it was nearly love at first sight for me with Rachel McAdams in that movie...

@akashtijore8298

3 жыл бұрын

“The vow” is good too!

@kimdkus

2 жыл бұрын

oh I thought the samething! It was so amazing. It breaks my heart that Jamie had to go on without her love.

I don’t know if the Lady of the Lake was killing randomly though. She killed the doctor and vicar in flashbacks because she always hated their treatment. She drowned a child because she thought it was hers. She killed Quint for the same reason she killed her sister, while he was stealing the necklace. And then she attacked Dani for taking a child out of her house. All are related to the miserable parts of her life.

@tasnimanimanimaa

3 жыл бұрын

That's an interesting way to look at it.

@victoriaperez7236

3 жыл бұрын

i didn't think of it like that, i just figured that anyone in her way would just get choked.

@jennocontreras623

3 жыл бұрын

Good theory, but actually no. If you watch it again and look closely, and was even mentioned in the flahback episode, all those she killed, were physically and literally in the way/path of her nightly visits inside the Manor. So her routine goes from the Lake, to the front drive, then the front entrance, up the stairs taking the left flight after, then turning left again walking down the hall to the room in the west wing where she would always visit, and taking the same path returning to the lake. When she killed the Vicar he was standing between the bed in the west wing and the door to that room, the Priest on the stairs, Peter in the hallway from the stairs to the west wing and Dani on the front drive. They were all killed along Viola's path she routinely takes on her nightly visits. So @Victoria Perez, you're actually technically right too hehe

@frankmendez7142

3 жыл бұрын

@@jennocontreras623 But why did she never do anything to Miles’s and Flora’s parents, because they were in her bed, I guess maybe they weren’t technically in her path they were just at the final destination, but she did take the child in the bed as well so that’s why I think the person you’re commenting to is actually somewhat right as well with their theory.

@kimvyn.1238

3 жыл бұрын

@@frankmendez7142 there’s multiple theories to this: 1. the acorn talisman unknowingly protected them and viola never took/saw the parents 2. since it was a summer home, they didnt have much of a chance to be in her way 3. since the parents were often separated and having an affair perhaps the ghost didn’t enter? this one’s kinda confusing as a theory 4. they were adults in the bed and not children idk make your own conclusions but reading fan theories most of them have come to these answers :/

Haunting of Hill House= hauntingly scary Haunting of Bly Manor= hauntingly sad lesbian love story

@cobrakairobloxenthusiast4291

3 жыл бұрын

The love story between Dani and Jamie I enjoyed the most!

@ZzBuRnTzZ

3 жыл бұрын

Why mention the fact it’s lesbian? It’s just love between two people

@myloriv

3 жыл бұрын

@@ZzBuRnTzZ uh because Dani being lesbian was a huge part of her character as she was closeted and that led to the death of her fiance

@gbrown932

3 жыл бұрын

@@myloriv I didn't get that. As a bi man that never occurred to me. I simply took it that she wasn't ready for a life of settling down. I don't think sexuality had much if anything to do with it.

@myloriv

3 жыл бұрын

@@gbrown932 she literally ended up in a civil union with another woman????? Did we watch the same show?????

The “perfectly splendid” thing: that was just a way of showing how children mimic what/who they like or admire. At first I thought Flora had hurt Rebecca and some think when she talked like that, Rebecca took over her, but I think it was mostly merely mimicry.

@mamaryunashin

3 жыл бұрын

Yea i thought that so

@dannymiller7187

3 жыл бұрын

at first it seemed like it was to show how she liked her a lot then they used it as a twist to show how Rebecca took over her body. Remember she was tucking her away a whole lot, so much that it was becoming noticeable to everyone and flora was getting really sick of it and every time she tucked her away she was using her body. But she also did say it on her own because she liked Rebecca so much. So you don’t know when it’s flora and when it’s Rebecca. That was a pretty fun part of the show not realizing it was Peter using miles or Rebecca using flora and then finding out later.

@Veryy_Victoriaa

3 жыл бұрын

I think it was showing us Rebecca and Peter really didn’t need the kids’ consent to take over temporarily because they’d made an impression on them. Whereas Rebecca was gentle, though, you’re right- it was harder to know when Flora was possessed from when she wasn’t (until she confronted Rebecca). But Miles’ possession was clear, kinda like Peter had his own kind of orbit he pulled Miles into when he realized the lady killed him. I just don’t know why he made Miles jump from the tree at the boarding school though.

@shabinamahmed5402

3 жыл бұрын

@@Veryy_Victoriaa I think to get him home . 🤷🏽‍♀️

@PedritoElMaldito

3 жыл бұрын

@@Veryy_Victoriaa peter can't leave the manor grounds, that was all miles

Has someone else noticed that each time we see Hannah lights the candles she lights +1?. At first only the parents were dead but there were 3 candles. After Owen's mother passed away there were 5. She kept saying that she lights for the dead, probably the last candle was for her..

@harkiratshergill625

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking it might be for Sam

@MashleyPotatoess

3 жыл бұрын

I figured it was for her ex husband cus he left her or something. Like Flora’s mom lights one for Hannah’s ex husband during one of the memory jumps

@shakitz1

3 жыл бұрын

@@MashleyPotatoess Oh right! I wasn't thinking about it. It could be!

@jaymzmikael2265

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't , but I did noticed early on that Hannah always refused to eat and thought something was odd about that

@laurarae5683

3 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing.

Ironic that her tasting food for another guy is considered cheating but him peeping in on and creepily stroking another girl's hair is fine

@lianagutierrez530

3 жыл бұрын

my exact thoughts. peter was a douchebag

@thefootenotes5524

2 жыл бұрын

And Peter tasted the food off the spoon too. I was so mad, I yelled at the TV, “So you were flirting with Owen too? You clearly had a taste from the spoon too!” 😤😡

@hollister_bb

Жыл бұрын

‼️‼️‼️‼️TOXIC‼️‼️‼️‼️

@Noa-g1ex

Жыл бұрын

Men ☕

@youtuber2928

Жыл бұрын

Men ☕

Was hoping Victoria Pedretti's character (Dani) would get a happy ending for once. She plays tragic too well.

@Freak-tionxc0mic

3 жыл бұрын

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@navyasaluja6294

2 жыл бұрын

and again in you s3..

The forever home is a nice call back to Hill House

@KuehneZoneify

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the realization

@dreamykassy7357

3 жыл бұрын

@Samael i miss hill house and the original casts

The best stories have no villains, but broken people desperately trying to be heroic.

Holy shit. It didn’t click with me that the end scene with Jamie in the hotel room, with the hand on her shoulder, it could be Dani tucking Jamie away in a memory of them. 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

@kanamekuran77

3 жыл бұрын

That's what I was thinking. I noticed that Jamie's hair had turned from gray back to brown as well so she either died and would be reunited with Dani or she was "tucked away".

@arizonamars

3 жыл бұрын

@@kanamekuran77 OMG WAIT I DIDNT RVEN REALIZE ABLUT THE HAIR?!?’

@Neophema

3 жыл бұрын

@@kanamekuran77 Wasn't her hair mostly gray in the front?

@NehaSingh-ty2vk

3 жыл бұрын

Hope season 2 comes

@Freak-tionxc0mic

3 жыл бұрын

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People say they don’t like the memory jumps but I actually didn’t mind it. They were meant to be jarring and disorienting to show time not as linear but a string of moments that bled to the one consciously tucked into them. I thought this whole season was poetic. Love can be wrong (obsession, possession, selfish, consuming, unrequited/one sided), right (requited, thoughtful, selfless, self-sacrificing, empathetic), sad (grief, heartbreaking, abandonment), happy (expressive, opportunistic), and scary/haunting (ghosts you bring with you in the form of baggage, allowing yourself love when it’s too late, guilt, regret, fear, etc).

@highpriestess3947

3 жыл бұрын

Right, I actually liked the memory jumps cause it put us in the mind of the characters as it happened. I like confusing intriguing things like that in movies lol.

@chezraks

3 жыл бұрын

I was so confused with that at first but im glad they did it that way to help us feel what the characters were going through

@Kaedesis

3 жыл бұрын

I kind of expected owen to say moments are like confetti when he was chatting with hannah by the bonfire

@cobrakairobloxenthusiast4291

3 жыл бұрын

Me either it’s cool seeing Flora and Miles grown up

@RMBarros455

3 жыл бұрын

The fact is that most people don't like things that they have to pay attention to understand, they prefer simpler stories fed to them.

As an avid reader of gothic literature and gothic dramas (it's one of my favorite genres), I find Bly Manor really amazing. Its gorgeous writing and layered characters made me cry. *Spoiler Alert:* That one episode where we discovered Viola Lloyd's and Bly Manor's back story, it genuinely broke my heart. "She would sleep, she would wake, she would walk" that turned into "she would sleep, she would wake, she would walk and she would forget and forget and forget and forget". It was so heartbreaking and brilliant. That whole episode was beautiful and I don't understand why critics hate it so much (it might seem inconsistent as it kind of sprung out of nowhere and we have no idea how anybody got to uncover that piece of information). But it wasn't repetitive at all. Also, Hannah's character was so, so sad. We revisit Nell's theory of "time being like confetti and not a line" when she sees that crack. Oh my God, that was amazing. And dear lord, those cuts and transitions into next scenes are out of the world. I do agree that Hill House had set the mark for Horror as a genre by literally reinventing it but Bly Manor provides such a poignant and poetic perspective of Horror and Gothic Fiction and of stories about love and loss and what truly haunts people.

@adriana-xb1df

3 жыл бұрын

hey! do you have any book recommendations? :)

@shaina3298

3 жыл бұрын

@@adriana-xb1df Wuthering Heights, Northanger Abbey, House of Salt and Sorrows, The Dark Descent of Elizabeth Frankenstein, My Dark Vanessa, Stalking Jack The Ripper, Rebecca. And for lighter tones try Lovely War by Julie Berry, The Book Thief by Markus Zusak, Fountains of Silence by Ruta Sepetys, I Wish You All the Best by Mason Denver, My Sister The Serial Killer, Ten Thousand Doors of January. Pick any. You won't be disappointed, I promise. Ps. I'm sorry. I go batshit crazy when people as me for Book recs...💚

@adriana-xb1df

3 жыл бұрын

@@shaina3298 thank you so much!

@twixotic04

3 жыл бұрын

​@@shaina3298 I remember we read some gothic romance in high school but haven't touched that genre since. But I really enjoyed it in this series and especially the black and white episode! So good!! People hate it?? Thanks for the recs, will see if I can read some. I'm looking forward to rebecca in a few days on netflix. I watched the old movie awhile ago. Manderly...

@michaelgutierrez1826

3 жыл бұрын

My presumption was that Dani told Jamie the story. When Flora was coloring over the gravestones with the crayons and paper she stops at Viola's stone and tells Dani "you haven't seen it with your own eyes, have you?" In reference to her artwork -- foreshadowing that Dani would see Viola's story through her own eyes. So when Dani was knocked out for a hot second, this would have been when she was tucked away in Viola's memory.

I would have loved if the ending would have been just everyone leaving and when ”Flora” and the lady starts to talk, flora says ”perfectly splended” in the end, that eould have wraped the while story in a simple way.

@71_fathurrahman77

3 жыл бұрын

Yess

@harshitadang2208

3 жыл бұрын

That would hav been nice but then that would insinuate that flora remembers everything from bly

@winniefan8090

3 жыл бұрын

@@harshitadang2208 yea cuz Flora learns to say "perfectly splendid" from Rebecca Jessel when they first met

@vijayashankar9129

3 жыл бұрын

Flora does say Perfectly in the Same tone as she was a child at Bly Manor to older Gardner when they are talking side by side at the party house.

@latifazahour5144

2 жыл бұрын

Yes but I think the first one who said "perfectly splendid" was Rebecca, so I am saying that during the time when she kept saying it, she was possessed by Rebecca..

Dani and Jaime spent 13 happy and loving years together before the lady of the lake completely took over. In the last ep, Jaime mentioned the civil union which was only legalized in Vermont in 2000, which is 13 years from 1987. To think that they had all those years together 😭❤️

It’s so odd how Rebecca & Peter planned to take over Miles and Flora’s bodies so that they can be together again. Flora and Miles are siblings, meaning if they continued a romantic relationship in the children’s bodies, they were comfortable with incest. Also, the nature of Peter and Rebeccas relationship was already mature (sexual) which is also sick because they were going to continue that romantically mature relationship AS CHILDREN 😩 super weird. Obviously this didn’t happen, but it didn’t seem like they even cared about that part smh. Poor kids.

@charlenebarleen3105

3 жыл бұрын

Literally what I thought. Like what would happen if the plan did work?? They'd live like siblings but slip into each other's rooms at night???

@andrea-th5sg

3 жыл бұрын

Half siblings* Edited: Its still incest but the truth is that they are half siblings which is an important detail in the storyline. I’m not justifying it or trying to make it sound like what they were going to do is ok. Its just a small detail that to me is importsnt to note. Thats all.

@rosiieholiday-fernandez9636

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing

@charlenebarleen3105

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrea-th5sg Still incest plus they didn't know that

@1alexadotcom

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrea-th5sg yes but it’s still incest. They are still closely related. Although they have different fathers, their different father are siblings themselves(brothers)...

I wish Viola didn't take the Lil boy with her into the lake.

@Lea-iv4gn

3 жыл бұрын

@Nightmare Simulation Maybe. But, once it was all over, he may have been lonely again. My heart just stopped when I saw her carry the child into the lake. I was like Nooooo, not the child 😞

@janedoll3237

2 жыл бұрын

I hated that part! I appreciated how kind Flora was to him throughout the show though. Ghost children are sad 😢

@thatpurplemist27

2 жыл бұрын

But that kid actually later helped Flora in placing the dolls perfectly. For eg. When Lady of Lake would be coming over for a night stroll or when Dani wasn't in her room and such information

Dani's plot armor in episode 8 is superman level. So the ghost chokes her all the way up the stairs for several minutes and she doesn't die? Every other victim died in seconds why not Dani?

@bianka3686

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I was thinking the same,how did the others die that fast?hers was realistic , you can’t be chocked within seconds

@AbdulB

3 жыл бұрын

@@bianka3686 I assumed the ghost was snapping their necks cos of how fast they died. But somehow Dani's titanium neck could withstand that neckbreaking grip for minutes, up the stairs, through several rooms.🤣

@camilatabares2055

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed that she snapped their necks once she arrived at the bed. She dragged Peter into the room alive but he came out dead. The other bodies were already dead as she approached the lake. So I believe if Flora hadn’t gotten on the bed, Viola would’ve seen an empty bed and then snapped Dani’s neck and drag her to the lake. That’s just my theory.

@bianka3686

3 жыл бұрын

@@camilatabares2055 that makes sense , thanks

@madgeroonii

3 жыл бұрын

I think maybe with victims like the doctor and Henry, they were actively in her way/trying to prevent her from completing her path so she killed them immediately so she could return to her path. But Dani was only unfortunately in her path so the lady was dragging her kind of subconsciously, but eventually she would have died if Flora did swap with her

The director of the series was poetic and consistent with his treatment of "ghosts" in both the seasons of the show. While in the first season, "ghosts" were shown to be our own fear, regret, denial or anger, in the second season the "ghosts" were largely our grief. The overbearing grief that swallows us, the grief we don't get over of. Dani's grief of losing her fiancé was the bespectacled ghost that haunted her, Viola's grief of having lost all her jewels, silk and her family haunted her even beyond her death, Hannah's grief of losing her life and the consequent denial of it, Henry's ghost had been his own alter ego that manifested after grieving the death of his brother and his wife.

It's a battersweet ending.

@jade-rj3ge

3 жыл бұрын

STOP 😀💔💔💔💔💔💔💔

@BlackZero583

3 жыл бұрын

Even for you Owen, that's....

@michaelluigi3309

3 жыл бұрын

@@BlackZero583 perfectly splendid?

@nehla_noor

3 жыл бұрын

If Hannah couldn't eat or drink as a ghost,then how did she tasted the batter of the cake which Owen was making🤔 Someone please explain

@michaelluigi3309

3 жыл бұрын

@@nehla_noor That was a flashback. Hannah died the day Dani arrived in Bly Manor.

So why didn’t Rebecca just lure a man there so Peter could possess him? Why would you want to be in the bodies of two children (who are siblings) as a couple. How weird and nasty.

@greasyguido

3 жыл бұрын

Because no grown ass man is gonna give up the woman he loves to let another man have her. It's gotta be gullible kids.

@akashajones6079

3 жыл бұрын

@@greasyguido ...It wouldn’t have been another man, it would have been Peter’s spirit. What are you talking about?

@greasyguido

3 жыл бұрын

@@akashajones6079 I'm referencing the main point in this thread that was thumbed up...

@EX7Sonic

3 жыл бұрын

Because the person has to consent to them being possessed or else the spirit gets forcefully ejected after a certain amount of time. That's why Peter spent the entire show manipulating Miles into letting him take over. How many full grown men do you think is gonna consent to being possessed by a ghost? Also, the kids are rich. They would've been set for life afterwards. Kind of a perfect situation for him aside from the incest which wouldn't really matter to him anyway unless they planned to have kids.

@AndSoWeLaughed

3 жыл бұрын

@@EX7Sonic so manipulate the guy you bring. Ive seen many a man do stupid things for money, power and sex... Why manipulate a child? I get it's easier but its also sick. I felt like I just repeated myself...

During the tale of Viola it is mentioned that she clung to life for so long, that death itself had come to take her so many times without claiming her that death no longer had the desire to come at all, which is what allows the souls of those that die there to stay in the gravity well.

Seeing Dani go from CONSTANTLY struggling and having breakdowns to FINALLY having that safe feeling with someone and trying to rebuild her life BUT THEN she decides to sacrifice herself for those 2 annoying ass kids that doesn't even remember them and the good things that happened in the manor I AM FEELING NOTHING BUT PAIN edit: I know the kids were being possessed but it got a point where they were being possessed ALL THE TIME that's why I said they were annoying. I do, of course, acknowledge the fact they were sweet and innocent 🥺

@psyduck1208

3 жыл бұрын

Fr tho! Dani would agree to what Flora had said her to do. But when Dani was taking Flora with her to leave, she decided to be all whiny...which made me pissed off. 😐😩

@nhatminhhoang4541

3 жыл бұрын

@@psyduck1208 Shes a kid, she didnt want to leave without her brother. Besides, Dani was about to be killed by the lady of the lake, but Flora jumped onto the bed and saved her life.

@Mina-ox8hm

3 жыл бұрын

In my opinion the children's "annoying" behavior was from when they were being possessed throughout the season. The actual children themselves were quite sweet and protected Dani a ton!!! (Or tried their best to anyway). Flora tried so hard to get her to stay in bed all night, for example. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@madinatuleshova6292

3 жыл бұрын

Dani did say in the beginning that as a teacher she grows to love the kids, even the bad ones. I think it makes sense considering she did not know exactly what she signed up for when she let Viola in, it just seemed right at the time.

@ronarubis9075

3 жыл бұрын

Her fiance and mother in law (should have been) told her she can see kids that needs help and she should take care of herself first.

You’re lying to yourself if you aren’t gonna say ‘perfectly splendid’ more often

@831Bars

3 жыл бұрын

no I wont cause I don't talk that way

@jujutsutoji3552

3 жыл бұрын

It’s honestly a British thing Iv heard it a lot before the show

@matthewmorrin1974

3 жыл бұрын

@@jujutsutoji3552 as a fellow Brit I’ve only heard it a handful amount of times and most of it being on tv.

@indowithbadenglish3775

3 жыл бұрын

I think flora hears that from rebecca the first time, some kind of a hint that rebecca's ghost always at her side

@matthewmorrin1974

3 жыл бұрын

@@indowithbadenglish3775 yeah that’s what it is. Flora picks it up from Rebecca when they first met and then she continues saying it

The biggest shock for me is the kids forgetting all of this happened. They weren’t even that young. These events would be embedded in my head forever 😂

@curlyanika8643

3 жыл бұрын

I think they are pretending to forget about it and it'll reveal on season 2

@aishlelle

3 жыл бұрын

@@curlyanika8643 There won't be a season two, these series are usually limited. There will probably though be another "The Haunting Of...".

@arianovicki726

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe they experienced trauma and their brain pushed the memories away to keep their sanity. That's what happens to a lot of people that experience trauma at an early age.

@lilymitchell256

3 жыл бұрын

Makes me wonder if something similar happened to them like what happened to the ghosts. Perhaps being away from the house made them lose their memories of it. I mean bly was a weird place to say the least. They did say time washes away things, and maybe it indeed washed away their memories.

@HoomanthingMeetDog

2 жыл бұрын

because half the time there they were in a trance like state

I ALMOST got sad about Hannah and Owen never being together and then I realized they were. In a weird way. Their love for each other was never sexual. It was a spiritual and emotional connection. One that they were able to hone over the 3+ years they worked together and confided in each other. That's how her memory of him gave her the strength to fight back in the end and help save her friends and the children. And Owen's memory of Hannah enabled him to leave the town he could've easily gotten stuck in an succeed at his dream. So ultimately they were together, just not in the way we're used to seeing on TV.

i love how the phrase "forever home" is referenced in this show and haunting of hill house.

Yeah that dream hopping thing had me confused the entire series.

@lavishmisfittink3214

3 жыл бұрын

That’s why I can’t get into either season it’s to psychological

@CSH.pressonnails

3 жыл бұрын

Dream hopping is most confusing for me too

@giannimozanihusin6978

3 жыл бұрын

Me too. I just pretend to understand the timeline during watching the entire series

@flaming3652

3 жыл бұрын

First season made sense but this shit is all over the place. Just give me a good horror story no flashbacks and no jumping timelines for next season. More scary less mystery.

@benstich3616

3 жыл бұрын

The whole dream hoping thing is kinda glazed over even in the show. I think it’s best to take it at face value- people that are stuck in purgatory at the manor all have the ability to dream hop. Because they are stuck in their own minds all alone they can Only see old memories and cannot create new ones. As time goes on they are forgotten and lose the ability to dream hop once forgotten I’m assuming

THAT PAINTING ON THE WALL IS WARRICK CASTLE IN ENGLAND I'VE BEEN THERE OMG OMG OMG

@Eduardo-ew5dl

3 жыл бұрын

pay attention to your reflections then ;)

@Mario-fv3zs

3 жыл бұрын

I bet your eyes are not the same color... Did you ever notice that...?

@ellamarlan3567

3 жыл бұрын

IVE BEEN THERE TOO TF

@rashi2479

3 жыл бұрын

i think it's Warwick Castle

@Freak-tionxc0mic

3 жыл бұрын

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Every time the kid said perfectly splendid I took a shot of vodka

@osogwuapo4270

3 жыл бұрын

Rip

@englishforall4147

3 жыл бұрын

I hope you are well after the hungover haha

@vrishtidharan3697

3 жыл бұрын

🤣

@SnappingTho

3 жыл бұрын

lmfaooooo

@rashakki

3 жыл бұрын

You must be alcoholic now 😂

Anyone still on the fence after finishing this season I completely recommend watching a second time, it’s SO much better the second viewing and everything makes sense.

@justjen1682

3 жыл бұрын

For some reason it makes me wanna go back and watch the first one. These shows have you glued to your couch( or bed) 🥴

@KuehneZoneify

3 жыл бұрын

I watched it again hahaha

@brianlaureus

3 жыл бұрын

Don't think I can stomach watch what happened to Rebecca a second time tbh so I'm good. I definitely liked haunting of hills house better I felt like it was more horror focused and like flora said in the end this felt more like a bunch of twisted love stories gone wrong . Left me more uncomfortable many of time rather then scared .

@nowiri

3 жыл бұрын

I loved the not knowing 😭😭

@martinfreekie7659

3 жыл бұрын

I want to watch it again now that I know all the things that just flew over my head the first time.

The last episode had me crying like a baby. I have so much respect for Jaimes character ugh

It’s interesting that I didn’t initially notice Miles at Flora’s wedding, until they showed him as a boy. He always was silent, alone, and in the background. You kind of wonder if he is still alive, considering that Miles dies at the end of the actual Turn of the Screw story.

@twixotic04

3 жыл бұрын

I felt that whole last wedding scene was weird, it didn't make sense with the characters from bly.

@krisandres2011

3 жыл бұрын

@@twixotic04 Jamie's story is a re-enactment. Imagine how American movies cast actors who kinda look like the actual people they portray.

@Freak-tionxc0mic

3 жыл бұрын

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@victoriaperez7236

3 жыл бұрын

when does he die? i missed to notice that

@love_grows

3 жыл бұрын

@@victoriaperez7236 You know when they were in attic, and Rebecca didn't get into Floras body, instead she told Flora and Dani to run away from the house, and she added that it's too late for Miles (meaning Peter already took his body, and he went outside with Hannah etc). Hope I helped you a bit :p

I have a theory: Dani being forgotten by the kids is a reflection of Viola who was denied being a mother to her daughter. Dani was likely struggling between her homosexuality and her desire for motherhood, which motivated her to become a nanny, a way to adopt kids. The two sisters had a good relationship at the start but it was destroyed by Viola’s sickness, and even after taking her place Perdita was also denied motherhood. So in a way Dani was like Viola, which is why she accepted her invitation to possess her. But Dani was also different, and I think this repaired Viola to some extent. The Dani&Jamie couple was like the sisters but instead of betraying each other, they loved each other until the end. Through her possession Dani became sick like Viola, this time mentally, yet again a living dead. But Jamie loved her as much if not more. They lived for each other, in the present, rather than seeking immortality through legacy, it being their children, their domain (Bly Manor) or their riches. I think when Viola finally made Dani nearly strangle Jamie, she stopped short of it on purpose. She was saying: prove it. And Dani proved it. And Viola was finally, gladly defeated. In parallel there is also a tale of denied fatherhood and brothers who betrayed each other. The older brother became possessed by work duties and absent. Like Perdita, the younger brother became the illegitimate lover, but unlike her, he did get a daughter, though it turns into a torture as well, as like Viola he’s not allowed to be close to her. I was afraid he would just get killed because ‘morality’. But the show did not disappoint, in the end he managed to overcome his guilt and turns out to be a lovely uncle/father. It’s an interesting subversion and role reversal. In the end the women sacrifice themselves like warriors, and a man raises the children. But it’s not satirical, within the context it makes sense that his unavowed desire was fatherhood, and he’s so touchingly grateful.

@LorriaLove

6 ай бұрын

This comment is Everything! Perfectly put. 💯 💟

"Perfectly splendid !" - Flora

@iamwhoiambecausethelordlov3893

3 жыл бұрын

🤦‍♀️

@justjen1682

3 жыл бұрын

😭

@JazminDiaz01

3 жыл бұрын

That little girl freaked me out lol 😂... I would’ve left in less than a week. The boy looked like he’ll kill you in your sleep and the little girl was creeping me out.

I just wanna say if the kids did move to US it is very likely that they’ll lose their British accent

@JoshCabatuando

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah they got reverse peppa pigged

@LoneRodeoJones

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoshCabatuando it's funny cause the little girl, Flora, is the voice of Peppa pig 😂 lol

@pareshd1310

3 жыл бұрын

I never thought jamie of all persons could lose her thick accent

@sunshinejewel2952

3 жыл бұрын

Not true. They were very young they can definitely lose it. Seen it happen many times .

@syd7959

3 жыл бұрын

@@sunshinejewel2952 yeah. my mom who lived in australia until 16 now has an american accent. odd.

Both seasons have ended in me sobbing and my husband holding me while he laughs uncontrollably 😒 You can’t help but to fall in love with the characters and the storyline was so beautifully written. AM I THE ONLY ONE?? Please fellow criers tell me I’m not alone 😂

@kimdkus

2 жыл бұрын

Sobbed right here!!

@editaisajanyan4393

Жыл бұрын

i cried during most of the episodes not just the endings 😂

I've always said that Romance stories are far scarier than horror, and this season is a perfect example. Like, comparing the Notebook to Friday the 13th. It is FAR more likely that my wife will slowly fade from dementia than we'll get diced up by an immortal psychopath. Real life can be far more scary than any ghoul.

if I hear 'perfectly splendid' one more time I-

@justjen1682

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!

@msmarcia8972

3 жыл бұрын

j. I know right. So damn annoying.

@thatoneguy9759

3 жыл бұрын

PeRfeCtLY sPleNdiD

@biankah

3 жыл бұрын

I thought it was cute tho 🥺

@justjen1682

3 жыл бұрын

@@biankah I know right. She’s the cutest!

I disliked Viola so much! Such a selfish, stubborn character which sucks cause she has the most power. As for the series, at first I was so scared, but by the end of it I was crying, with my guard completely gone. It was definitely a good series. The only complaint I would have is the lack of depth to Violas character. I think there was a lot more potential there to account for her power while alive and dead. For example, the depth of Peter‘s character was done so well even with the dream hopping (you still didn’t like him but you knew why). So although Viola’s story was told in a linear way and took a full episode, it didn’t feel enough, especially since she was the big boss of the show.

@apoorvatripathi9520

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly idk why ppl are not talking about it

@serhanderyahan8804

3 жыл бұрын

well if you were slowly dying from an illness and was not able to hold your husband and child all while seeing your sister starting to take away your husband you would probably be a lot worse than selfish and stubborn

@nellybelly4388

3 жыл бұрын

I dunno.... suffering from an illness for years. Not being able to enjoy life and be close to her husband and daughter. On top of that seeing her husband and sister start an affair. I would be selfish and stubborn too

@taethetical

3 жыл бұрын

@@serhanderyahan8804 Exactly!! Because, before she was sick she loved her sister dearly, they even sleep in the same bed before she met her husband.. her sister was the one who became a glutton and selfish.

@blegh3023

3 жыл бұрын

@@nellybelly4388 the real selfish one is perdita. Viola waited and waited waited for her daughter to open the box- only to find perdita opening it.

the whole story i expected the storyteller to actually be Dani

@mernky3562

2 жыл бұрын

Sameee I was so surprised

Something that I dont understand about this season. How did Charlotte and her husband not know about Violas ghost? After all, it was their bedroom she wandered too every time she woke up. How did they never see her? How did they avoid being killed by her after living there all those years? Didnt Henry mention that he and his brother grew up in that house? How did neither of them know about a major, serial killing, ghost that inhabited a home they spent a large bit of their life in?

@CariiClaire

3 жыл бұрын

@@lorenaluera4541 I don't think you understand, that the sister opened the trunk a few hundred years before they started living there... Jodi is right

@mollypat87

3 жыл бұрын

i feel like the kids were the only ones who saw the ghosts and the ghosts made themselves visible when they wanted. but you are right they never really explained this

@misnaomi8748

3 жыл бұрын

I believe it was because violas pattern was always 6 years...being killed in the 6th year of illness, and then sleeping for 6 years until the opened trunk and then another 6 when the parents died. That’s why floras memory hopping was always when she was 5.

@leveluproberts6496

3 жыл бұрын

I dont really understand how the uncle was dream hopping if he was not at the manner. Did he know what was going on the whole time? Was he fighting with his self the whole time?

@shaelynmartin1996

3 жыл бұрын

@@leveluproberts6496 The uncle wasn't really dream hopping. He was having traumatic flashbacks. Notice how every time he does it, and sees his 'alter-ego', he's drunk. It's his mind's way of trying to cope with the trauma, grief, and guilt he feels over the deaths of his brother and sister-in-law.

The writing of both seasons were perfectly splendid. You have to fully be willing to pay attention to understand & catch all the clues/hidden messages. It's beautiful to watch. I loved it!!!

Beginning of Bly Manor: Some what boring confusing. Middle of Bly Manor: Starting to catch up Ending of Bly Manor: You understand heartbreaking.

@yamahaguy1732

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah by the end you understand everything I’m rewatching it now and noticing smaller details

@Jackietreehorn39

3 жыл бұрын

I liked it right away.

@urielt7

3 жыл бұрын

I didn’t think it was boring at all.

@LuvThyMind29

3 жыл бұрын

Hm. I was very interested from the start (largely due to great acting by the kids) and thought the middle episodes began to slow.

@ChristopherSkogheim

3 жыл бұрын

I actually thought the beginning was quite interesting and a bit scary, mostly because of Dani's ex that she would see in reflections! Then the middle part was more boring and confusing to me, as we were getting the backstory of several characters and character developments but without the connection to each other, and then in the end it got really interesting and heartbreaking when it all was tied together and it made sense. When I was halfway through the season I was beginning to regret spending so much time on this show, but then at the end I was happy that I watched it all because the ending was so good!

I had guessed the little boy was possed by that man when he was constantly snapping and swearing and asking for wine

I just finished binging the series and I BAWLED my eyes out after, I've never cried watching a horror show

@jordged7034

3 жыл бұрын

@@me_when8845 I just started on Hill House actually, quite excited😄

@kimdkus

2 жыл бұрын

@@jordged7034 I hope you had tissues! First time I saw it, it frightened me, second time I sobbed, third time I took notes.

@jordged7034

2 жыл бұрын

@@kimdkus Haha I didn't, but I got me some! It also scared me but mostly made me sob

I think the venue of the wedding is the original house.

@courtneyhernandez7268

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking that too!!

@emmie623

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, it would make sense because flora knew of the house as somewhere she uses to spend the summer with her parents. It wouldn’t be odd if that was a place she chose to get married.

@Sortofmac

3 жыл бұрын

I thought that too but at the end the older version of Flora didn’t know about Bly Manor so why would they go back? Also one wedding guest said “if I were to fly there” like they weren’t already there so I don’t think so lol :))

@courtneyhernandez7268

3 жыл бұрын

@@jazzycat8917 ah totally missed that. Thanks!!

@teshalis

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sortofmac I'm pretty sure they were saying if you were to fly to ENGLAND there would be no Bly Manor, which indicates she changed details of the location and name of the place. Its still entirely possible that the wedding is at the "vacation home" that flora and miles grew up in.

Did anyone get hurt by the lady of the lake ghost when the children’s parents were still alive? I felt like that period was “during the good days” montage but that creates a plot hole to the persistence of the ghosts throughout all those years. The parents would have been killed/attacked during that period.

@iamwhoiambecausethelordlov3893

3 жыл бұрын

Ooh you're right

@HollywoodProperties

3 жыл бұрын

The lady might not be walking every night. Over the 200?ish years since she started walking its shown shes only killed 4 people that were aware of. I feel her walks arnt always frequent. Like the night they played hide and seek. The door was under the dresser so she didnt come out that night.

@santiagoe.5217

3 жыл бұрын

It wasn’t every night. Hannah told Dani that “the kids” went to play outside at night and did a mess in the hall every two weeks

@CSH.pressonnails

3 жыл бұрын

They slept all night and didn’t get up late like Dani did and Hannah had it cleaned before they got up? Lol I made that up ofc

@roisinconnolly8337

3 жыл бұрын

It was there summer home when the parents were alive I think

I got so excited when I spotted Hill House references...like “the forever home” and the phrase “the strangest dream”...so cool how they interconnected...

Was I the only one that figured out Jamie was the narrator really early on? Like she said at the very beginning of the first episode, "this is not my story, its of a friend" and then her and Owen share a glance and since she's not a black woman and she sounded northern English, who else could she have been? Also the uncle says he is going to take them to America after they leave Bly, so isn't just as likely that they were in fact English, its just that Flora was raised from 8 years old in America, and picked up the accent that way? I mean, since both Owen and Jamie have English accents. Also picked up real early on Hannah being a ghost. She never ate and its commented on a bit during the episodes. She says she hasn't been sleeping and she's always a bit distracted and then the biggest clue comes at Owen's Mum's funeral, when she says to Dani, "funerals are for the living"

@cinderellacomplex7

3 жыл бұрын

The phrase "funerals are for the living" is actually a pretty common phrase. It's not a 'clue' about Hannah's death.

@pareshd1310

3 жыл бұрын

But Hannah had a bottle of wine at the bonfire.

@n8s246

3 жыл бұрын

@@pareshd1310 it was empty

@dasgefurchtetetetetetetete2565

3 жыл бұрын

Wow you're so smart 🤩 you're definetly the only one omg

@greasyguido

3 жыл бұрын

No. If the case were the countries were switched were true then the whole bit between Peter and Rebecca wouldn't make sense with the "English care about class and Americans care about money" to justify their happiness if he steals.

Grief is very central to this season of the show. Grief is their ghost and it is what haunts the living and even the dead(Viola grieving over jewels, silk and her daughter). Grief thrives on memories, and when grieving one often finds themselves recounting memories we hold onto dearly or the ones that had changed something fundamental in us. So the idea of "tucking away into memories" is quite poetically significant. When tucked away into a memory, the memory becomes a ghost and also saves us from the larger looming one- the grief.

I think that peter could leave because he possessed miles when he was at boarding school. His ass was lying to Rebecca for sure.

Is'nt it a bit weird that the Lady in the Lake walked every night to the master bedroom, but never seem to have come across Charlotte and Dominic sleeping there when they were alive? xD

@poisonharley

3 жыл бұрын

It technically wasn't the room itself; it was her own personal purgatory until she was released from the chest by her sister

@RonBest

3 жыл бұрын

@@poisonharley She was released in the 1600 something. Charlotte and Dominic lived there around 1985 or something. I am pretty sure she was already released at that time xD Her walk from the lake was to that bedroom.

@abhivardhan5619

3 жыл бұрын

@@RonBest lady in the lake doesn't walk everyday, and also she doesn't hurt people on the bed only those who are in her way

@RonBest

3 жыл бұрын

@@abhivardhan5619 Well even if that's how it is that would be odd that they at no point woke up at the wrong timing to spot her at their bed. Well, technically the whole concept is a bit unrealistic that almost no one ever sees her, she is fully visible and she walks through the house and garden pretty often. During Danielle's short stay she almost got in her way 3 times and and on the 4th she even got caught by her. How the rest of the family didnt see her is odd xD

@poisonharley

3 жыл бұрын

@@RonBest Ohhh you're right. That's a good question

So when Jamie dies, she's just going to move on to whatever's next, while Dani is forever trapped in this world, at Bly Manor, with The Lady of the Lake? That's just cruel and unfair...

@alexthuene2806

3 жыл бұрын

the thing is, Dani will forget everything. no memories, no pain, she won't realize her situation is hopeless because there will be no *Dani*. just an empty vessel that vaguely resembles Dani's figure.

@Cat_herders

3 жыл бұрын

Life (and death) is often cruel and unfair.

@captaindein33

3 жыл бұрын

its fiction

@bandamani

3 жыл бұрын

@@captaindein33 so we shouldn't try and determine anything in the carefully crafted story because it's not real, ah yes

@ljiljanasrebrenovic9500

3 жыл бұрын

@@jdperry exactly. It was her who had stopped the gravity well, and all the souls were freed. So she herself isn't trapped either.

Amazing analysis as always! One thing - I thought Dani was still tied up / conscious when the kids say “it’s you, it’s me, it’s us” to Peter/Rebecca, which (partly) explains her decision to say that to the lady in the lake (so it didn’t completely come out of left field).

@ajnr6876

3 жыл бұрын

she was

I liked the dream hoping the way it was. It gave us an actual feel of how each character would feel doing it lol (confused yet intrigued and possibly a bit annoyed that there was no clear line between jumps).

@BlueMoonlight777

3 жыл бұрын

True. I would totally go insane.

i suffer from dissociative episodes because of PTSD and the conversation Dani and Jamie have in the bathroom, it just made bawl my eyes out, cause that's how it feels, I guess that until that point, I hadn't realized how much this series was about trauma, and love and memories. idk, just felt like sharing

@LuvThyMind29

3 жыл бұрын

Do you think it's possible that there was no lady of the lake - that this was the part Jamie made up for entertainment value- and that Dani was struggling with mental health?

@kimdkus

2 жыл бұрын

It also touched on dementia. I think Flanagan likes to explore the mental illnesses and see what he finds.

Another thing I’d like to point out is that when lady of the lake was taking Flora with her, Rebecca was right behind her saying that Flora wouldn’t feel a thing because she would tuck her away in a memory so she could bear it for her. 😔

Anyone else feel like this is not just a "gothic romance" but a pshycological thriller? I mean i feel like their is a lot of mental health stuff. And its slightly triggering to me. There has to be a point why the cook talks about his grandmother dying from dementia. And the conversation he was having to hannah about it. And talking about memories fading. And transcendence. I feel like this is what happens to people with ptsd... which is what the nanny seemed to have. And if you allow something to take over and you loose youself, you can hurt someone. Your loved one. So she killed herself instead. Thats honestly what i see behind the romance. There was just so much grief and depression and anxiety and memory loss...

@Scribbled2Death

3 жыл бұрын

not to mention that peter's and rebecca's relationship itself is a horror of its own

@moonflowerasmr11

3 жыл бұрын

@@Scribbled2Death thought so too.. award for most toxic relationship of the year smh

@enotj

3 жыл бұрын

yeah i agree. it was really triggering

@witchcat8086

3 жыл бұрын

It triggered my depression so you'ree not wrong there.

@myloriv

3 жыл бұрын

It's an allegory for dementia, just like how Hill House is an allegory for grief. I work with geriatric patients a lot and it was just so obvious for me.

this show was so good and one of the best/creepiest parts is that there are so many things in the background of certain scenes that any average viewer who isn’t familiar with mike flanagan would easily miss. i also cried in the end it really hits close to home. please watch this it’s too good 😭

@amandar3172

3 жыл бұрын

From HoHH I was trained to look in the background of the scenes for hidden ghosts, so of course I was scared seeing all these lurking ghosts in BM...but in the end I just felt bad for them knowing they weren’t malicious and were trapped because they died at the hand of Viola 😢

@Neophema

3 жыл бұрын

@@amandar3172 I didn't notice any of them, only the boy in the basement.

I have two theories about the last scene: 1. I think the last scene with Dani's hand on Jamie's shoulder shows that Dani is still with her and that she's trying her best to "tuck away" Jamie. In some scenes of Miles and Pete, especially in the part where Dani found out about Pete and Rebecca's ghosts, it is seen that before possessing Miles, without getting his consent, Pete puts his hand on Miles' shoulder. We can remember that Jamie tried to give Dani her consent to possess her or tuck her away in their last scene together in the lake, but Dani cannot do it because of how much she loves Jamie. 2. Or maybe, the last scene of Dani's hand on Jamie's shoulder shows the relevance of incorporating the story of Dani's dead fiancé. We can see that the first time Dani saw her fiancé's ghost is through a mirror with her dead fiancé's hand on her shoulder. Maybe this means somehow, Jamie blames herself for what happened and Dani doesn't want Jamie to feel that exact same way she felt about the death of her ex fiancé, that's why she never showed herself to Jamie but she also made the decision to never leave her and be by her side until they meet each other again in another world.

How come no one is taking about Peters childhood?! He was abused by his own father and that gave me more of an understanding as to why he was the way he was.

@lovely1641

2 жыл бұрын

but then he grew up to be the same way. In death he was free from being shaken down by his parents and all he had to do was accept sharing a body with his lover until they could figure something out but nooooo he just had to take her life too

Its not a horror series, its a sad love story. I couldn't stop my tears on the last episode. But really its very confusing, those tucked aways 😂😂😂😂

It took me 4 episodes to get over the fact that this wasn’t Hill House. But once I got past it. I was immersed. This is a different type of horror. It’s different. Totally, it’s own thing. It’s definitely not Hill House, but it’s... perfectly splendid ;)

The entire production was brilliant, my wife and I loved it, more "The haunting of..." please!

@kimdkus

2 жыл бұрын

He coming out with the Fall of the house of Usher. Here's some tissues. I'm sure we'll need them.

Horror is not always with jumpscare and scarry face of ghost or something. It can be with the deep mistery, psychological attack or even the disturbing scene and plot twist. And this series have it all. It's disturbing yet beautiful and perfectly splendid.

did y’all notice whenever someone was possessed their eyes changed?

Absolutely hated and was confused the first 7 episodes. Then the final 2 blew my mind. Not sure if it’s quite as good as Hill House. But still amazing

@beautybydais

3 жыл бұрын

I skipped 4 episoded. The dead nanny part was a bit too much! But The Viola story was heartbreaking and everything els fell so much better in place. I cried so hard at the end. And I cried again after seeing all of this 😂

@bandamani

3 жыл бұрын

@@beautybydais HOW DID YOU SKIP 4 EPISODES

@beautybydais

3 жыл бұрын

@@bandamani The whole nanny story was draining for me and I understood it right away! I found the story of the sick mother and everything els more interesting!

@bandamani

3 жыл бұрын

@@beautybydais that's understandable, i just personally never skip things because i don't wanna miss any information and i wanna make sure i take everything in as the creator intended me to. i remembered getting very lost at parts of hill house but i just had to commit and then it would all come together lol

I personally think Dani wasnt in the last scene with Jamie. I merely think it was her imagination, just like how Hugh Crain always saw Olivia around him after she died in Hill house.

Most heartbreaking story I've ever seen. Victoria Pedretti was perfect for this. Mike Flanigan brings real heart to his movies.

anyone wondering why hannah was able to touch things in the 5th episode peter was able to pick the doll up after he died it phased through his hand when he realized he was dead hannah was in denial of her death until the 7th episode which is why she was still able to touch things until then.

@amukhb8608

3 жыл бұрын

Thats because she refused to accept she was dead, like Peter after realizing he was dead he couldn't touch the doll anymore

@highpriestess3947

3 жыл бұрын

I liked it, lol u know when u hear those ghost stories or paranormal stories of spirits moving and touching things, kinda reminds me of that. If it wasn’t with that intent I like that it lowkey unconsciously was.

@caitlinkelly1791

3 жыл бұрын

If they can’t touch things then how is it that their feet can touch the floorboards of the house. They’re ghosts and the house is material.

@Teawos98

3 жыл бұрын

​@@caitlinkelly1791 obvious plot hole

@Teawos98

3 жыл бұрын

@@BhagaviPara you can see the ghosts you just cant touch them dani was able to see peters ghost

I took the “could not risk the most important thing, her most important person” as the lines she remembered from the letter, the character just didn’t seem so self important to say something like that about herself. just thought those lines were really sweet and genuine from that sort of letter so I wanted to bring attention to them

It bothers me that we never found out exactly how the childrens parents died. I know they went away to India to save their marriage but it's never explained HOW they died. Maybe it did and I missed it idk

@yveresserodriguez2360

3 жыл бұрын

I think they’re having a S2 so they might explain it there

@vrishtidharan3697

3 жыл бұрын

@@yveresserodriguez2360 are they?

@mollypat87

3 жыл бұрын

@@vrishtidharan3697 no way these are one season stories no reason for a second season

@sonia2716

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@yveresserodriguez2360

3 жыл бұрын

@@mollypat87 Yap, I realized... Mb

I think the memories each ghost got tucked away in said a lot about the person they were before they died and to me explains why peter could only relieve the same horrible memory over and over again, as opposed to Flora reliving positive dreams etc