"i dont want to see a pretty girl get elbowed in the face... Then i met Rhonda Rousey." This actually made me spit my drink out. 1:51

@Showerofjyzz

Жыл бұрын

i didnt even realize how hilarious that actually is

@crimsonking4151

Жыл бұрын

She ate one of the cleanest elbows in wmma history

@dustinf11

Жыл бұрын

@@crimsonking4151 You are 100% correct lol

@user-ml3fh7fw8o

Жыл бұрын

Ronda wasn't pretty

@sanatsrivastava2814

Жыл бұрын

And watching Ronda get elbowed in the face is water for desiccated eyes.

UFC just stopped trying to put on good shows once they got the ESPN deal. They actively suppress star power instead of promoting fighters and put together half hearted cards. Everything rises and falls.

@GoodStuff1992

Жыл бұрын

truth

@Gg-wh3vi

Жыл бұрын

Yea I think the best word is saturated. Espn has just saturated the hell out of the product. I’m a huge mma fan so I’m not going anywhere it’s just frustrating.

@RZ6787

Жыл бұрын

@@Gg-wh3vi I mean there are other promotions

@bklynoctorious498

Жыл бұрын

From the SCAMMER HAMMER himself

@Uppercut314

Жыл бұрын

W O R D 👌

Rousey's undoing was her coaches convincing her that she should be a striker. She actually started to regress. Went from quickly taking out women who knocked Nunes out, to wading into a fire fight that only a fool would have advised her to do. The Rousey that lost to Holm and Nunes, would ALSO have gotten destroyed by the Rousey from 2 yrs earlier.

@p_ttown1979

Жыл бұрын

rousey literally tried to take holm down early on but got frustrated that she couldn’t

@chaboi7

Жыл бұрын

You're going by a casual popular narrative, first off rousey didn't fight hee toughest competition which would've been gina Carano and cyborg, she was shielded from them and hyped as better then everyone until the talent wasn't part time fighters, when she fought Holm she definitely tried to take her down but Holm defended everything and that broke rousey simply because rousey couldn't bully her, that's the end of that story, she just wasn't what the ufc hoped her up to be, the woman who could strangle everyman alive😅😅

@bsenka

Жыл бұрын

@@chaboi7 none of that is true. She fought the best of the best in her weight class, including future champions. She only tried to take Holm down after she was already concussed.

@chaboi7

Жыл бұрын

@bsenka how did she fight the best when she somehow didn't fight the actual best in Carano and cyborg?!?!?! Btw, bethe corriera was only a part time fighter, she literally had a full time job 😅🤣😂, that division was trash and when the talent got there rousey wanted to get pregnant 🤰 😂

@bsenka

Жыл бұрын

@@chaboi7 What part of "in her weight class" did you not understand about what I said? She tore Tate apart twice, but Tate beat Holm for the title. She took out THREE fighters who knocked Nunes out. Then, Edmon tried to convince her she was an elite striker, and the good times were over

i think WMMA hasn’t been better with main stays like valentina finally getting toppled the same way DJ did against cejudo, losing a huge champ injects life into the division and amanda won’t be here for much longer. Strawweight has always been fun, flyweight just got interesting thanks to grasso and others like blanchfield, we’re gonna find out the future of bantamweight this saturday.

@s0basically3

Жыл бұрын

But the problem is that people don't really care. You got the goat Amanda Nunes fighting and if Charles and Dariush wasn't on that card I'd doubt the main event could pull even 25k ppl buys.

@ahriman6669

Жыл бұрын

Well you mean robbing DJ and clearly decorating the loser as winner to make more money. First of all no fucking way Cejudo won the second fight. Second, you don’t need to lose a dominant champion to get existing fights. UFC just suck at promoting their fighters.

@RougeLino

Жыл бұрын

@@s0basically3 but that's the thing tho... i think he's actually wrong about where to focus when it comes to FAME in wufc... the straw and flyweight divs are more interresting than nunes. talking so much about nunes doesn't reflect wufc's fame which is still not crazy if you focus on these 2 divs but still more than nunes's fame

@AkinataMoon

Жыл бұрын

Dude they are all sooo bad tho

@chula538

Жыл бұрын

Strawwweight is the best W division in the ufc

Absolutely mind blown that Weili Zhang wasn't mentioned as super star she makes tens of million for the UFC in China. She is single most important fighter on the roster for the UFC's expansion into the most populous country in the world yet completely ignored. Very poor job

@s0basically3

Жыл бұрын

She was tho at 4:52

@RickyBobby42069

Жыл бұрын

Most populous country in the world is India now

@Dude09342

Жыл бұрын

@@s0basically3 At the end of the video he basically asked when we would get another Ronda. They have Weili is biggest MMA draw in one of the populous countries the world

@SarkkiKarkki

Жыл бұрын

Better dead than red

@s0basically3

Жыл бұрын

@@Dude09342 doesn’t make her a star. There are countless fighters from China, not to mention she can’t sell out on her own. Put her on a main event with no good male fight to as the co main the card falls flat. It doesn’t matter where you are from but how you can tap into the market and from what we’ve seen she hasn’t. Ronda was legit the biggest name in all mma while Weili is nowhere close this is partly due to the mystique dying off once Ronda’s hype dyed down.

I think people just need to accept that women's sports aren't as entertaining as men's sports lol. It's nothing to do with sexism or misogyny or any of the other words people like to throw around

@ronburgundy2383

Жыл бұрын

Yep

@NHILUSAGE111

Жыл бұрын

What’s interesting is mma fans seem to have a pretty strong respect for women’s mma where as basketball fans disrespect and bash the wnba BADLY. There’s reason for this tho wnba never outshines the nba where as a ufc card like 248 zhang and Joanna completely saved our nights and crushed izzy vs Yoel…

@ronburgundy2383

Жыл бұрын

@@NHILUSAGE111 also true

@jeffreychongsathien

Жыл бұрын

I think one exception is women's tennis - longer rallies. Another is climbing - women's climbing is at least just as good as the men's.

@draculaflowfan

Жыл бұрын

​@@NHILUSAGE111 the issue is tho that for every zhang vs joanna there's like at least 5 fiorot vs chookagians, fights that are just completely unremarkable that most everybody forgets. there are for sure entertaining wmma fights and consistently entertaining fighters like natalia silva but on average, rn wmma just hasn't caught up with men's mma as far as skill or entertainment value.

I just be one of the only fans of women’s mma. I mean look at Zhang, she’s amazing

@steeztv6230

Жыл бұрын

Ik she’s vastly better then most her division though. So ig I’m only a fan of a few women fighters

@DylanN54

Жыл бұрын

I love Zhang there's a couple female fighters I love watching but that's the real issue there's only a couple worth watching

@Leroyscaand

Жыл бұрын

Not a lot of depth

@bormass

Жыл бұрын

there are great fighters in wmma, flyweight just got really interesting with alexa grasso and we MIGHT get a new champ in bw. the problem is that theres not a lot of big names apart from the champs and A FEW others (many of those dont even fight anymore)

@TheUnderDogUzumaki

Жыл бұрын

@@bormass The champions aren't even big names like that.

MMA fans watch an awful Ngannou/Lewis fight: What a bad night, hopefully the next one doesn't suck. MMA fans watch one bad WMMA fight: Cancel the entire division.

@fellowtraveler2251

Жыл бұрын

And yet UFC partisan shills will deny until they're blue in the face that there is no sexism at play here before proceeding to make sexist comments such as this one.

@bwill3337

Жыл бұрын

Right!!🤣🤣 it's crazy!

@smorgasborgas

Жыл бұрын

Sums up pretty well

@selenophile5256

Жыл бұрын

Delusional 15 yr olds who did their first jiujitsu class

@MightyJabroni

Жыл бұрын

It's not that the fights are bad. They are often just boring. With two dad bods at low to mid tier heavyweight, you at least still have the reasonable expectation, that one connects and ends the battle of the land whales in a sudden way. Contrast that to the unanimous decision parade in WMMA, where one fighter is clearly better, but never ever even comes close to a finish, while also never being threatened. And these fights are often recognizable as same, longe before the final horn. Sure, you also see these with the men. But they are not only more frequent with the women, they are also more lopsided. Even in complete missmatches, you remarkably often see nothing but point fighting, when it comes to WMMA! That is one thing, and one thing only: Boring as fuck.

I’ve been recently watching the One cards since it got added to Amazon and it seems like their women’s division is much more developed and exciting. It’s also not some niche promotion. They have become a real competitor to the UFC and are significantly ahead in terms of overall reach (though the UFC is making a lot more money). Anyhow, give it time. The infrastructure is there and new superstars will rise!

WMMA superfights are few and far between, Nunes vs Cyborg was the most hyped I've been for one and it hasn't come close since lmao

I’m honestly bored of Nunes being double champ. I like Valentina, Zhang, but it’s honestly sad that we don’t get some fresh faces in WMMA. But besides that Women’s MMA isn’t dead. For this upcoming PPV I’m just looking forward to Dariush Vs Olivera

@fortniteboss6958

Жыл бұрын

Blanchfield, Dern, Fiorot, Grasso, Santos, Jauregui and others are young, exciting, and working their way through the rankings. Plenty of fresh faces if you know where to look

@user-nv2wt4hi8t

Жыл бұрын

Dude, 145lbs is the deadest division. Like, Nunes is extremely impressive and has a number of names but when you take the closest inspection, that 145lbs belt she's got that makes her a double champ is extremely weak, although again, at least the name and the way she got it (running through Cyborg) was awesome.

@michaelwardlaw711

Жыл бұрын

Nunes really isn't a double champ. Womens 145 is basically a dead division. You have Norma Dumont struggling to beat bantamweights, Danyelle Wolf is almost 40 and lost her last fight and thats it. Odds are once Nunes retires they will probably dissolve the division (as they should)

@megamanxhunter

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelwardlaw711 A dead division? The division never really existed in the 1st place.

@sallgoodman2323

Жыл бұрын

@@fortniteboss6958 Grasso has always been one to watch, those hands are sharp

I agree the level is not the same, but women's MMA delivers plenty of good fights and performances. Meanwhile, men's MMA also delivers lots of boring or lackluster fights, but then people just say "it was bad" and move on. There's just a special kind of hate for women's MMA that is not warranted, and I will never understand it. Personally, I am always excited about an Amanda Nunes fight, so I am looking forward to this saturday's event.

@bwill3337

Жыл бұрын

100%

@ramonserna8089

Жыл бұрын

I would rather watch one women fight than 3 Izzy or Colby's fight.

@Chino56751

Жыл бұрын

" Hate " a misnomer. Also, the men generate much more power and violence, which is what we want. They have a special brand of aggression that the women can't bring. They do still have technicality and talent, and they can still bring it, but you're fooling yourself if you think that they're the main draw for the UFC, or any other pro MMA organization.

@mr5timewcwchamp

Жыл бұрын

@@ramonserna8089 I’m not here to hate on any fighter. But that really depends on which izzy or which Colby fights you’re talking about…. Because they both have all time classic fights on their résumés

@ramonserna8089

Жыл бұрын

@@mr5timewcwchamp All Im saying is today is a decent card: It has a real banger fight, a tittle belt on the line and if you want to see a hidden gem checkout Imanov vrs Chris Curtis in the prelims. I get it that perhaps the UFC catered this card too much to the Canadian audience but is not the dumpster fire some people claim it is.

I’m still a fan of the women’s divisions. I love Weili Zhang, and now her closest competitor Yan Xiaonan would be a massive title fight for the Chinese market, if Zhang gets through Lemos. Their strawweight division also has Mackenzie Dern clawing her way towards that title shot if she keeps fighting like she did against Hill at UFC Fight Night on 5/20/2023. Not to mention a Grasso and Shevchenko title rematch. However, Nunes is probably in her twilight and the bantamweight doesn’t seem to have very many fresh exciting female stars on the rise. But Weili and Jędrzejczyk showed that two women can go to war blow the roof off the place, so it’s up to the UFC to scout and foster that talent to build up those divisions and give these women the opportunities they need.

@conboy66

Жыл бұрын

Dern 😅😅😅 she get destroyed by zhang

@ddomenicoeeziommancini

Жыл бұрын

Wbantamweight is pretty stacked but it's the same situation of the middleweight division. Stacked but the champion is so much more talented than the rest: this makes the division stale, not fun to watch. I'm so glad that Valentina got subbed and please ufc don't give her an immediate rematch

@clearlyalunhead1109

Жыл бұрын

While i love zhang and she's amazing there isnt much entertainment outside of her fights in wmma

@bayly1977

Жыл бұрын

Her vs Joanna was epic

@princerak8881

Жыл бұрын

fr i love zhang still need to go up in weight tho

0:15 the look on Tysons face lmfao

@alexrush4140

Жыл бұрын

😅

Amanda nunes is a talented legit fighter. Women's mma needs to exist just for fighters like her. Imo

@paigerocks884

Жыл бұрын

talented legit fighter who got confused by a dipping jab lmao

@RodriguezPlaysGames

Жыл бұрын

@@paigerocks884 50-43 bozo

I like MMA period...mens side does seem to be "deeper" but i enjoy watching mma in general

@PhenomResurrections08

Жыл бұрын

I mean, it helps when you have a 20 year headstart not allowing women to compete from the start lies the men.... but no one wants to talk about how much of a factor that is.

@americandissident9062

Жыл бұрын

@@PhenomResurrections08 Because it doesn’t matter. What do you want to do? Sit and talk about how women weren’t fighting back then and cry about it? I can tell you don’t train.

love your vids, some of the best short doc channels out there

I don't think it the death just stale with nunes being double champ and valentina getting a rematch there's some new faces that don't capture much attention

@alexrush4140

Жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly 💯

@americandissident9062

Жыл бұрын

Nunes featherweight belt is a scam. There are no fighters for her at that weight.

Honestly I feel like what really brought woman’s MMA in the ufc down was Amanda and Valentina being such dominant champions against challengers no where near the same skill level. Now that Grasso beat Valentina and Weill beat Carla I’m actually pretty excited to see the future of both those divisions. It also helps that both of them are exciting fighters that get great finishes, something Nunes and Valentina have been lacking in recently.

@brandongreen6846

Жыл бұрын

Agree!

you know women’s MMA is bad when you have fighters like julianna pena becoming champion🤣

@NHILUSAGE111

Жыл бұрын

That’s the weakest point you can make for women’s mma being bad 😂. Shit was the fluke of all flukes watch the second fight

@jayden12242

Жыл бұрын

She would beat me and you in a fight my boy 😂

@SarkkiKarkki

Жыл бұрын

Sure there are a lot of sprinters who would out run you and me in a 100m dash but that doesn't mean they have a spot at the Olympics.

@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi

Жыл бұрын

​@@jayden12242 no she wouldn't, she's actually bad at fighting.

@mmaknowledge-wp7hp

Жыл бұрын

@@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi How was she a world champion then?

amazing video my man. I think you hit the nail on the head. Someone can say "what about valentina? what about rose? weili?" etc. but the problem is the depth and the lack of the personalities. A #7 vs #9 fight in the women's division can look worse than a contender series men's fight. Then when you look at the talent, nunes, valentina, rose, they either dont have the personalities to put them over (amanda) or they don't do enough media and convey their personality (valentina, rose, weili) the best thing for the sport honestly in my opinion was joanna, rose, and weili providing parity to that division, but they didnt promote it right at all. now with no cyborg, there isn't much parity in the sport at all. I think 115 and 125 are coming up, but still drop off after ~#10

@Satsuionly

Жыл бұрын

ONE FC is doing it right in regards to the women… they all just know how to fight. Not sure why the UFC hasn’t rid themselves of the “Don’t want to cut weight” featherweight division.

@madgavin7568

Жыл бұрын

Amanda doesn't do enough media either. You never see her on the MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani for instance.

@StaminaMC

Жыл бұрын

@@Satsuionly Nothing would appreciably change even if they did, is likely why. It'd be just as hollow a gesture to 'remove it' as it is to keep it, so occasionally letting women fight at a weight that doesn't torture them is the purpose it serves, in function and, for presentation reasons, in name also. It causes no harm, but also provides little benefit.

@anon2427

Жыл бұрын

Being honest women are just worse at fighting

@bwill3337

Жыл бұрын

Name a men's division that doesn't suffer from the same lack of contenders below #10. Or that has slew of personalities outside of the top. Also, there are lots of exciting women's fights...if you don't expect them to be the same as men's. Btw there are lots of men's fights that are duds too. Understand women are different as athletes and just appreciate what they bring and enjoy it for what it is. Not talking about you specifically, just saying in general.

Velentina is more well rounded than most female fighters in the roster, she would be champion again.

Everyone was so wrong about Ronda. People legit thought she could beat Floyd in boxing

It seemed like 1-2 years ago or so womens mma was popping. Weili, rose, nunes, joanna, valentina, andrade, etc. now they have all lost, retired, or lost multiple fights. The younger generation hasnt stepped up to become stars yet. Alot of great fights from the women I listed. They were kind of the 2nd tier after carano, cyborg, rousey, tate…

I think they lack "Bad Guys" and characters there's a reason Colby sean O'Malley are so popular yet so hated its hard not to want to see them get knocked out or win in some cases

@post7027

Жыл бұрын

they lack stamp fairtex

@bwill3337

Жыл бұрын

Oh but there are bad guys/heels....maycee barber, Casey O'Neill, Valentina, meisha, ailin Perez, Chelsea chandler. Just depends on your perspective 🤣

@annikafanpage1745

2 ай бұрын

Why I was happy and apparently everyone else love seeing Rhonda get starched by Holmes. Her additute was a lot of her being an insufferable, entitled, pretentious stuck up biznatch that thought her shit don't stink and was better than everyone else. Which why it was so satisfying when she was put in her place. Felt like Holmes did us all a favor that night and that win was for us fans. In turns it probably humbled her in a good way and for all way we know made it easier for the people in her circles to tolerate her over inflated ego. But in all I hope she's in a better place now mentally and wish her the best. But comes with the territory when competing at the highest level of his martial arts

I might be the only human on earth that’s interested in the main event 💀, reason is because i think aldana is hella good at boxing and could probably get it done. But i’m a lot more excited for charles vs beneil tbh

This is generally what happens in womens individual sports. One dominates so much that others take years to catch up. Making shows not interesting boxing is the same.

I've Always Been A Super Fan Of Female MMA. It Was Literally The First MMA Fight I Seen( Joanna vs Claudia) so Im always focused on it. I just think its hard to have super fights when the champions are so dominant. Most of the fights are predictable

I personally think wmma is going good and although the talent pool is shallow now it will only keep growing. Going to be some great fights to come. Joanna vs Weili will always be a fight of the year

I totally agree with the points you make - the points that feel like they should never be stated. I remember "Rousey mania" - so foolish. I couldn't believe all the male UFC commentators, Dana White, + the fans of the sport being so quick to label a girl a "superstar" because she submits others quickly all do to armbars. I keep thinking "wait what else can she do" + when Holly Holm made her look like an amateur + KO'd her suddenly the spell was broken. I follow men's UFC but rarely watch a female event. I hope that Chandler, Rodriguez, + Covington will all win in their great upcoming fights!

We ain't taking about women's basketball and soccer, which is pure entertainment, we're talking about MMA. For many of us, Martial Arts saved our lives or provided us with identity and structure which stopped us from sinking further than we probably would have. I think we as male martial artists owe it to our female practitioners to support fighters like Amanda Nunez and Zhang Weili - because it is about martial arts too - not just entertainment.

@suryavajra

11 ай бұрын

Well we need to know their stories. Like they simply aren’t being promoted in the way they should so regular people know them.

@pumkinchad2115

11 ай бұрын

Wait they're basket ball is entertainment wtf

@Admin-qy4zi

6 ай бұрын

😴😴

Make a what if on if Yoel Romero entered the UFC in his 20s

@Bryce_C.

Жыл бұрын

What if’s are too much like fan fiction

The flyweights are actually relatively exciting w girls like molly McCann, blanchfield and grasso but for the other divisions there’s a huge skill gap but I think the skills overall are improving just look at how Karine Silva performed on the most recent card

@bsenka

Жыл бұрын

Blanchfield definitely has the makings of the kind of missing "star" that the video talks of. She's a savage on the mat and on the mic.

Very well done video and explanation of the issues. Thank you.

I left the boat right after Rose-Carla fight, that thing was completely awful

@PhenomResurrections08

Жыл бұрын

Oh cmon, Ngannou vs Lewis was just as bad if not worst but you didn't stop watching heavyweight mma. You never liked or cared for women's mma to begin with.

Thug rose was THAT chick that kept the divison alive. Joanna too. Rose was part of one of the most boring fights in recent memory and joanna isnt who she was. Molly has star power potential but lacks skill. Erin blanchfield from nj has potential to be the youngest female champ and possibly most dominant

Amanda Nunes is considered the women's goat not because she is a superstar but because she is the best at what she does. On the other hand, Ronda Rousey was a global superstar and at one time, the best woman fighter alive. There's a difference as not every fighter can become Connor or Ronda. If you think women's mma started its downfall after the departure of Ronda, then how is it that Weili vs Joanna 1 became the fight over the year, how is it that Amanda Nunes's defeat to Penna became the biggest upset in history.

@TRiniLukey

Жыл бұрын

Rhonda departed in 2016, the fight you're talking about was in 2020, he wasn't referring to 2020 he was referring to what happened after she left and not what became afterwards. Also Rhonda wasn't a global superstar but she was popular and mainstream enough to become one afterwards. At the time, UFC also had other fighters such as Meisha, Holly, Chris, Liz and even Sarah Kaufman, these women were also as good as Rhonda but not as popular. Amanda Nunes is not called the goat because she is good at what she does, she is called the goat because she is simultaneously defending two belts. 7 to 9 years ago Nunez wasn't as good as she was now, but something changed. The same can be said when both Nunez and Holms defeated Rhonda, biggest upsets too. However, if we wanna talk about the greatest female fighter of all time, then on paper that would be Chris Cyborg, she only lost once to Nunes (one of her two loses), have won the featherweight championship over 3 or 4 separate promotions and have over 11 defenses over such promotions. Keep in mind that she only ever lost one of her belt to Nunez and that was in UFC. Nunez has also only defended the featherweight belt 2 or 3 times, she mostly defended her bantomweight. Rhonda on the other hand defended that same belt about 7 times and was also the strike force champion before ufc bought then over. And also right now Valentina had 7 defenses im her weightclass before losing her belt with a single mistake.

@bwill3337

Жыл бұрын

@@TRiniLukey oh....so you don't like Nunes.🤣🤣

@TRiniLukey

Жыл бұрын

@@bwill3337 that's my favorite female fighter actually lmfaoo. I tend not to be biased but I see how it sounded lol

@bwill3337

Жыл бұрын

@@TRiniLukey 🤣. Good to hear. So many fans lose objectivity when it comes to their favorite fighters. I think Amanda is the GOAT, but i agree there's definitely an argument for Cyborg and Valentina and i don't arguewith anyone who puts one of them over Nunes. To me Amanda is because of who she beat and when she beat them...all in their prime...no one has better names and she dominated them all, except Valentina.

@TRiniLukey

Жыл бұрын

@@bwill3337 Yes correct. When fanboys argue they argue over non-sense when in reality anything can happen in the cage. Take for instance Valentina's last fight, she literally won the fight and made one mistake. Look at Connor and Jose as another example, Jose was unstoppable and let Connor get into his head. Then there are a lot of what ifs, like "if Prime Tony fought Khabib he would win". I got caught up a few times too aint going to lie lol. But yes when we speak about GOAT we need to be more specific lol. Like Amanda might be considered GOAT in UFC but in Bellator they might say Cyborg is the GOAT, so it all depends haha.

The problem with WMMA is that, outside of Rousey and (to a lesser extent) Cyborg, none of the women ever were a draw in the UFC. Even when Nunes headlined against Shevchenko, it turned out to be box office poison. Despite this fight being put together, when it was very intriguing from a competitive point of view and pitted the two most dominant champs against each other. Here is the crux: WMMA fights have less finishes than the men's fights, which makes them feel less intriguing and more foreseeable on average. I mean: How many women's fights have you seen, where one fighter clearly had the upperhand and was coasting to a decision? Sure, that happens with men, too. But in WMMA it is the most common outcome. Because WMMA does produce more decisions than any male weight class (the majority of which are unanimous). This just completely sabotages this notion of "anything can happen at any moment", which is so important for the appeal of a fight! Even Nunes turned into a decision machine, even though she used to finish. Rousey’s popularity completely hinged upon her being first to market and her mangling her opponents in no time. But that only worked, as long as Rousey was the Royce Gracie of WMMA: A dangerous specialist, who benefited from being the one-eyed among the blind. Once the sport caught up to her, she got found out hard.

@robtomben

Жыл бұрын

All true.

If all women had a fight like Zhang vs Joanna Violence 1...& Stop Throwin Puches With their eyes closed + they gotta work on their "Finishing Instinct" More TKO's & Subs Will truly raise WMMA's stock

@NHILUSAGE111

Жыл бұрын

To be fair most fights (which are men’s) aren’t as explosive as that fight…that’s why it’s regarded especially in my eyes as one of the best… I agree tho aggression and hunger for a scrap and a finish is lacking massively.

@NHILUSAGE111

Жыл бұрын

@Oodles of Noodles 2020 specifically had 2 other men’s fights that were head to head with zhang vs Joanna, figgy moreno and porier hooker all had the same intensity. My point is most fights don’t won’t and to your point can’t reach those levels even if desired…female fighters especially at strawweight need to be more violent and throw more imo that’s all

Cyborg getting booted from the ufc was a horrendous thing for the sport. Nunes has no challenge at featherweight in the UFC. Cyborg is annihilating Bellator 145s. Rhonda at least promoted her fights. Nunes hides in her camper in between training camps

@MightyJabroni

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that was a blunder. Cyborg may not have been a super draw like Rousey, but she did draw 300k to 400k PPV buys, which is still leagues better than any other woman.

@cngg7847

8 ай бұрын

I'm glad she's gone. She made a mockery of the sport with her steroids use

I don't know if WMMA is that bad or Amanda and Valentina just killed it...

@madgavin7568

Жыл бұрын

Its both. WMMA is still low-level compared to Men's MMA (although it has improved) meanwhile Amanda and Valentina are just not very interesting. Amanda has the style to put on exciting fights, plus she's very accomplished, but she has zero personality, is Lesbian (a turn-off for many male fans) and not very attractive. Valentina is physically attractive and is accomplished herself, but her fighting style is rote, at times pretty boring and she doesn't have much in the way of a personality either.

@sakhilemlangeni9164

Жыл бұрын

@Mad Gavin I think that's what made Ronda the star she was, her big American played a huuuuuuuuge role

Your channel will be the best MMA channel ever, keep pushing guys 🔥🔥🔥

I get your points but you have to give some shoutout to Valentina Shevchenko. She’s truly what embodies mixed martial arts at its peak and her fights are a definite draw. In some cases fans see her as the top of the women’s division even through her controversial losses to Nunes.

Great video, didn't know about the history at all!! Who is the fighter at 8:04 looks so familiar!

There are exciting UFC WMMA fights still to be made. We're just not seeing them (yet). Shevchenko/Grasso rematch. Shevchenko got caught. But she is still a dominate force. Will she return a "Nunes" or a "Rousey"? Weili/Namajunas 3. Is Rose the kryptonite to Weili's domination? Or can Weili finally get that monkey off her back. And perhaps the most exciting, Nunes/Shevchenko 3. That second fight was so close, that many thought it should have gone to Shevchenko. Shevchenko jumped divisions, and continued dominating (until Grasso). Bring those 2 back together, and it would be the biggest UFC WMMA fight since Cyborg/Nunes or Nunes/Rousey.

WMMA needs more divisions. Imagine if the UFC was just Welterweight, Middleweight, and Light Heavyweight in the era of GSP, Silva and Jon Jones, it wouldn’t be as nearly as interesting

@NHILUSAGE111

Жыл бұрын

There’s simply not many female mma fighters on “ufc level” at least not yet. What can be done right now is cut womens featherweight and add womens atomweight (105) that should wake Wmma up

@megamanxhunter

Жыл бұрын

@@NHILUSAGE111 well, that's something wmma channels have been saying for years in regards to an atomweight division. But the UFC didn't care to build a featherweight division, so we shouldn't expect anything different.

thats what u said, for each nunes and weili, there's a woman that dont really have the will to be a champ

The harsh reality is the majority of women's mma is absolute muck. There's the odd good fight but even the ones aren't really much compared to men's mma.

WMMA has not been the same since Ronda Rousey left.

KARINE "KILLER" SILVA REMEMBER THIS NAME

One thing I hate about womens MMA is their nicknames, they’re too cutesy and cringe. Its always like, fighting out of the red corner, Melissa “Cinnamon Buns” Sanchez or Ashley “The Scrappy Daffodil” Johnson or Karen “Beepbooptiddlydoo” Rogers. Can’t stand that shit.

Thanks for snapshotting my comment into the video man, came as a welcome surprise lol.

I would rather watch paint dry than watch Amanda Nunes fight.

If Amanda Nunes was feminine and pretty, she'd be the most popular fighter in the history of mixed martial arts.

Good video

There are several factors that can be attributed to the current state of wmma, but I think the biggest factor is that there isn't a dominant female champion marketable enough to attract casual fans the way Rousey did. It doesn't help that the UFC really doesn't give a crap to promote their female athletes the way ONE champion does. To be fair they do the same to 90% the males, its just that a lot of the males promote themselves better to stick out. As for the hardcore fans, there aren't enough Zhang-Joanna fights to keep them interested. For what it's worth, I really do think Nunes vs Aldana has the potential to be a good fight as long as the fight doesn't get finished early. As long as they don't fight an opponent that like to stink up the place with their boring fight style (Shevchenko, Holm) Nunes and Aldana usually put on fun fights.

@madgavin7568

Жыл бұрын

Good female fights tend to be the exception more than the rule.

Only female fighter that interest me is Zhang I'm just bored of Nunes and Valentina(rose ain't even active) And most of the other female fighters just aren't that skilled(IMO)

@post7027

Жыл бұрын

stamp fairtex would destory zhang

@madgavin7568

Жыл бұрын

Rose I think is done with MMA. There's been no news of a potential fight ever since the Carla snooze-fest. Sucks that such a talented and generally fun fighter (Carla 2 fight was the exception) is a headcase.

watching from Grenada in the Caribbean Sea

The fucked up part is Amanda more than deserves the promotional train behind her. The skills speak for themselves. Like it or not Ronda was a big fish in a small pound and the UFC put so much money behind her like she was the second coming of GSP. The moment her ass got slept they were reluctant to ever do it again. Honestly I don’t think they will for another decade. Rose could have been the face of woman’s MMA but largely rejected her “marketability”. I respect that decision but it was largely a disservice to woman’s MMA. Maybe next generation 😒

Nunes is like Jon Jones or MM. So dominant in their division that there’s really no one good enough to do anything about it

It is a disrespect towards men's bantam weight division do they think fighters over there are toys. There are scary dudes over there. Beat Mayweather he will knock her out before she even realizes what happened to her & Velasquez front kick would make her flat. Dana should stop making ridiculous claims before promoting their pet fighters. Now she can't even fight women fighters in the division

I’d argue the UFC has done a pretty dogshit job promoting fighters in the last few years. I blame the ESPN deal. ESPN have more incentive to be promoters due to their cut of the ppvs, but they don’t understand how to market the sport.

Female ufc fighters should be required to watch zhang Weill and joana fight daily to remind them of who they should strive to be.

Great video and analysis. Do one about MMA fighters thinking they can go box and make Conor money. Not really so much about the skill vs skill matchup, but rather how the way the stars aligned to make Floyd vs Conor (Conor already being a superstar, Floyd taking him seriously as an opponent to actually want to beat him in BOXING as opposed to whatever clown show Fury proposed with Ngannou, the novelty of seeing the two sports clash wearing off and everyone now knowing the MMA fighter likely gets thrashed, the market getting saturated with freak show fights, etc) is unlikely to ever happen again

@mas72450

Жыл бұрын

@Oodles of Noodles ok fair enough by take him seriously I meant he was willing to box him and put his undefeated record at risk however small while Fury proposed fighting boxing rules in a cage with MMA gloves, which sounds like he's not actually interested in boxing Ngannou period

Now that Nunez retired, we’ll probably see those divisions disappear

I love mma in general woman men it’s a beautiful thing to witness I wish nobody gets hurt but still beautiful to see

I never watch a woman fight. Been watching UFC since 2009

Would love to see you cover some of ONE championship

Great vidio buddy well done

Stamp Fairtex is the face of womens MMA i will never miss her fights

I don't feel like womens MMA is hurting at all. We're seeing more and more main events with just women and including pay per views. Just because someone is in a fan of it doesn't mean a majority of people are, and it's growing and growing every day.

@americandissident9062

Жыл бұрын

They’re headlining cards because that’s what the UFC admin are doing. But they shouldn’t be. The biggest fight this weekend is not Nunes. If you even try to find the info you’ll see that a majority of people are not big fans of WMMA. I enjoy the fights myself but let’s stop acting like we don’t know why WMMA isn’t as big. It’s like those morons who pretend like they can’t understand why no one watches the WNBA.

@Macktube

Жыл бұрын

@@americandissident9062 obviously it's not as big as the men's but it's not going anywhere and people do enjoy it so I don't feel like there's a downfall more talented women are coming up every time. I do agree that they need a charismatic star though

As an x martial artist, and Full Contact fighter.. years ago 👊🏽😩.. Amanda Nunes is the real deal.. ronda Rousey not to take her skills away in judo.. but if you watched her last few fights, she got beat up the Holly Holmes fight never gets old watching it over & over..again because Ronda had her attitude..! And believe the hype about herself, ot to mention Disrespecting the other appointments.. When promoting start that great White hopes …S##T ..! We as people of colour.. show our dominance.. not to say there are no great white fighters .. Dana White started MMA because he wanted to promote white fighters.. i.e. Conor McGregor & ronda Rousey.. or even boxings Tommy Morrison.. this goes all the way back to Jack Johnson.. Ask for women in sports I would much rather watch women’s, MMA than women’s wrestling.. like I said because it’s the real deal..!

Honestly I have the same issue with female fighters as the 125 male fighters, not enough finishes. I want to see KO's or submissions, I dont think Ronda ever went to a decision in the UFC. Valentina, Rose, and Nunes all have some of the best head kick KO's I've ever seen, but they're rare, much more likely to get a boring 5 round starring contest. Call me barbaric, but I want to see people separated from consciousness

@BiggieTrismegistus

11 ай бұрын

I think fans can appreciate a good technical fight...but we also love seeing spectacular KOs.

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The fact esparsa became champ tells you everything about wmma...

Valentina, Amanda, McKenzie Dern, Zhang, I’ll watch any of them fight!

You should do one about how the ufc is on the decline

@post7027

Жыл бұрын

it isn't in Europe, Asia, Australia, only decline is the states and maybe brazil

1:37 "I don't want to see a pretty girl get elbowed in the face... Then I met Rhonda Rousey" that edit got me in stitches 🤣🤣

There was also 0 marketing push behind any female fighter but Rousey

I totally think its in an early devolopment stage. Natalia Silva gives me hope that more of her skill level may follow not far after her. She was inspired by the Nunes' of the previous generation, and maybe she's one of a new wave. The women are dominated by Brazilian fighters, just like the early stages of UFC. Maybe these Brazilian athletes will lead the women's divison on and have sparks like Natalia inspire women from other countries

I don't get excited until they actually start fighting

Rousey loss to Holm is like Kimbo's loss in Elite XC.

it's kinda sad but i have a negative bias towards WMMA aswell. in a mediocre or even boring WMMA fight, it feels even more boring, which is weird since there are plenty of MMMA (that seperation is hilarious in itself) that are just as boring. Atleast im aware of my bias ^^

I'm actually looking forward to it. Am I excited, not that much. Unlike Izzy and Potan, Islam vs Bronx. I watch a few WMMA, but non make me jump like some of the men matchups.

Bro this is the most unreal video u have made

womens MMa need the villains the heros and the experts

ONE FC has a boatload of awesome women athletes!

I love women’s mma but I’m not excited about this main event, hopefully it’s a good fight but the only reason I’m buying this fight is for the co main event, I’m really excited for that fight, there’s some really talented female fighters but it would be nice to have a mega star again

Another reason is that women don’t have knockout power on average so casuals don’t care

I think it is slowly getting better. 135 and 125 lbs that is. The talent level is definitely going up every year

Shame that there’s seems to be such little activity high up in the ranking across the 3 active women’s divisions. Rarely are we seeing top contenders battle, let alone actual title fights

@post7027

Жыл бұрын

that's because PFL and ONE have 80% of women's talent especially Thailand wmma can alone solo UFC women roster

@BluePoetProductions

Жыл бұрын

@@post7027 This is very true. So many times I find myself watching a fight (or highlights) thinking how great it would be to see them go up against a Nunes, Shevchenko, Weili, or Thug Rose. I even watch Cyborg continue to dominate, and wish for a Nunes/Cyborg 2.

I like to watch women’s mma. We have talented figthers there but we need a star to make a pay-per-view headliner. We had some potential stars like Paige VanZant and Tracy Cortez and unfortunately that potential wasn’t because of their skills. Some fights had some hype like Weili x Namajunas or Weili x Joanna 2… We need a big fight or a big card to hype the women. If Aldana beats Nunes the UFC should make a card with Aldana x Nunes 2 headlining and Grasso x Shevchenko 2 as a co main in Mexico. This Can raise Grasso and Aldana’s popularity or set up a potential trilogy between Nunes and Shevchenko.

The whole video is about UFC women division not MMA as you say. Other organizations doing very well with their women cards and fights. Take ONE Championship, their female fights are always entertaining and always very welcomed by their fans. That the highest problem with UFC. UFC does not care about anything but dollar sign. Health of their fighters are not important, their salary is not important, promoting their fights are not important. For UFC nothing comes even close to how much money they earn. That’s why every single fighter that left UFC is making whole a lot more money in other organizations, having a better mental and physical health and having more success. UFC is nothing but a cache machine.

Ufc is an entertainment promotion, not fighting promotion, that's why they always build up fighters to be the greatest for promoting value. Look at Usman, before 2 losses everyone was talking how he is better than GSP, but as soon as he lost, everyone start calling him trash for beating the same journeyman guys. It will happen again and again. Dana White is here for buisness, not for fights. Remember when he said that Jones should move to middleweight instead of facing Ngannou, look at things now....

3:26 I will never take anything Diana says serious ever again

I know it’s hard and in my opinion I don’t mind women’s mma think it’s great and Nunez is in my top 5 best fighters for sure and that includes males on that list. But one idea I have is and I know in the past it has not worked and would be hard to pull off now. N yes Amanda is still FW champ at women’s division but I think if we want more contenders and that’s the issue with women’s mma I think re opening and stacking FW division if possible is the solution. My opinion tho

Rose killed it for us

@robtomben

Жыл бұрын

She did some major damage at least.

Great video lot of facts actually which is sad because high level women’s mma is great to watch. Zhang Vs Joanna nunes vs cyborg Tate vs Holm. but these fight are just few and far between.

It's so sad to see. Rousey, Jędrzejczyk, Shevchenko and Nunes were amazing and their fights were extremely good but for some reason UFC stopped promoting them and they fell into irrelevance. To be honest the whole UFC fell into irrelevance when Dana shat on the ratings of fighters and went ham with fights he wants to see and not fights that should happen based on the ratings

the peoples main event of ufc 289 is the prelim opener of ufc 290