Was Jak II really THAT hard though? DEBATE.

@nisaiahcampbell8390

2 жыл бұрын

To some people it is

@hilbert8925

2 жыл бұрын

Still hard af

@leeshapon

2 жыл бұрын

as someone playing through it for the first time: yes

@gamerdrill7740

2 жыл бұрын

Being a kid: Yes Being a teen: Nah

@gangerthedagger265

2 жыл бұрын

It is

I will NEVER forget this mission making my cousin cry doing Thanksgiving break in 2003.

As a kid I completed this game in Hero mode. This mission was by far the hardest thing I’ve ever done. My older brother would actually ask me to do this mission. Oh the irony of that makes me smile

The way they bounce around in the air after they get hit is what makes it so hard

@MrMitchbow

Жыл бұрын

Bro didn’t learn how to juggle scarves in middle school

@AlrightThere

6 ай бұрын

Burst fire my friend

Actually there is just one ship as Kor mentioned. We just destroy one side of it after the other. So tecnically he did not lie to us.

@CDpanda365

2 жыл бұрын

Was that actually the case? Damn, I was convinced after the first round lmao

@UgeKaos

2 жыл бұрын

@@CDpanda365 Yup! Just look at the roof of the ship in both scenes, or also the "tail". They both are inversed.

@florianp1283

2 жыл бұрын

And during the first round it don't break in half

@Omega4Productions

2 жыл бұрын

@@CDpanda365 When the ship retreats in the first round, it’s still intact. It’s not until the second round that the ship breaks apart and plummets to the surface.

@avocadotoast6369

5 ай бұрын

Makes sense that Kor wants it destroyed as well. The shield wall of Haven City runs on Eco, destroy the shipment of eco and get the wall down, bring in the forces, get the precursor stone ezpz

You know, if Baron Praxis dedicated as many forces to protecting key locations as he does to trying to kill Jak, Metalheads probably wouldn't be that big an issue. Man'll send like 100 Guards at a time to track you down and kill you, but will only station like 3 or 4 with himself to move around outside of the Palace.

@diswazzi1683

2 жыл бұрын

Probably because Jak is CLEARLY the biggest threat

@Stachelbeeerchen

2 жыл бұрын

​@@diswazzi1683 For his power? Yes for overall safety? No metalheads are a bigger treat than one angry person with special abilities.

@borderlineexperimental

2 жыл бұрын

@@Stachelbeeerchen he kinda did since korr was using Jak for his own agenda. Jak succeeding in what he was doing most of the time was in the metalheads favour, since praxis was an adversary for both.

@Stachelbeeerchen

2 жыл бұрын

@@borderlineexperimental id say Krew was a bigger thread since he knew about Mars key and used it to open up Haven city for the metalheads. Jak helped the Metalheads indirectly but Krew actively helped them. Praxis havent gotten his priorities straight but who can blame him being a totalitarian leader in a sinking city. He probably went mad long ago and his own failure of turning Jak into his weapon put the last nail in his coffin.

@borderlineexperimental

2 жыл бұрын

@@Stachelbeeerchen but wasn't krew playing all sides in this conflict?

I like how this game has multiple "hardest missions".

@silvurrrboi230

2 жыл бұрын

Quiet, here comes pretty boy

@dindermufflin7932

Жыл бұрын

It was a fun fuckin project of a videogame to beat lol

@shawnmartin2279

8 ай бұрын

basically every other mission in this game is a "fuck this mission, bro"

Yeah this mission sucks, but it's usually not too bad until you try it on Hero Mode. That is where it's really frustrating.

@CansuBilal

2 жыл бұрын

OMG SAME! When I was 10, I would play it on hero mode. I got stuck at that part 😔

@florianp1283

2 жыл бұрын

It's not so bad for me. Maybe it's not so bad, because I played this game like 1000 times and this helps 😅😂

@CansuBilal

2 жыл бұрын

@@florianp1283 well same. I think it's time to try hero mode after 11 years 💪

@florianp1283

2 жыл бұрын

@@CansuBilal I did it already and it was a little bit harder to kill the guards. My aiming is good enough for the mission in hero mode and the regular missions are easier, because you start with all 4 weapons in hero mode. The peacekeeper is op and the mission with the 1000 guards for the seal of Mar is a joke with it. It still 1 shot everything in hero mode. 👌

@CansuBilal

2 жыл бұрын

@@florianp1283 Everything was easy for me as well, except that part of the video ;-;

Finally someone who actually think’s this mission is extremely hard

This mission is such a pain and it's the first thing i think about whenever I get the itch to replay Jak2

@florianp1283

2 жыл бұрын

Is the mission in the slums easier for you then this? I had much more problems with the thousand guards, when we get the part of Mars seal

@GreenBro11

2 жыл бұрын

@@florianp1283 That's a tough mission too but on replays I remember how to pass it but this mission is always difficult for me

@ultima2399

2 жыл бұрын

Replayed Jak 2 again. I hated the racing missions with a passion

@florianp1283

2 жыл бұрын

@@ultima2399 the race through the town with erol is annoying. In the regular races help the shortcuts and you can drive how you like, but there you need to get every ring or it's a failure.

@ultima2399

2 жыл бұрын

@@florianp1283 I remember that, the amount of times I scraped a boost ring and it didn't count was SO irritating. These days I just skip the racing missions using level select

I died like five times on the 40 crimson guard part but I beat the rest of my first try

I love how Kor only has you go on KG sabotage missions to further his Metal Head goals; it's some great worldbuilding.

The difficulty gap can be explained with time. Most people saying it wasn't as hard as they remember are exactly right, they were kids when they played this. This game came out in 2003, a time when FFX, NfS, and Ratchet and Clank games were at their prime. Not a lot of shooters existed unless it was something like SOCOM, so this aim and shoot concept with a narrow margin of error and small health pool was daunting for a kid. Now, these kids are grown up and have played dozens of CoD, Overwatch, and Apex-like games, so returning to a dark but cartoonish game like this feels much more simple.

Expert tip: having a fast trigger finger helps in this mission IMMENSELY on Hero Mode. Faster trigger finger = faster fire rate(turret doesn't have a fire rate cap) = faster kills = your life being easier.

@chrisjames7824

Жыл бұрын

Crazy how my turret was overheating before I read this comment

@agentclank8183

15 күн бұрын

Wish I read this first before I resorted to debug mode on hero mode. Before debug I resorted to the hover board glitch. Almost skipped to the last section first try after practicing. Didn’t get it consistently after then. Maybe I’ll replay the level once I finish the game.

Escorting the kid, leaving the docks after getting the seal piece, this mission, take your pick. They are all hard

I disagree. The hardest mission was getting that piece of the seal out of the slums. That is, unless you dark bomb the sentry in the water, but that's technically a cheat. So that mission is easily the hardest if you play the game as intended.

@zstormw

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, that mission isn't too bad if you just jetboard through the water slums. The path is pretty easy to get down and you can bypass pretty much all combat as you'll move faster than the drop ships can deploy.

@xxxxpinkypigxxxx

2 жыл бұрын

You can punch through that level without even thinking! Don't even bother targeting the guards, just follow the pathways :)

@docvolt5214

2 жыл бұрын

For me it was bomb the eco weels

@julianas.3352

2 жыл бұрын

For me, it was getting the younger sage out of prison. I couldnt beat it when I was younger x-x

@coreywilson7326

Жыл бұрын

@@zstormw yes it is

I'm surprised most people don't talk about the mission where you have to escape the Palace after the Class 1 Race. That mission is abominable.

What a coincidence! I played this mission today actually and then your video got reccomended to me, I actually did beat this first try, but It was damn hard as well. I finished with 1 bar of health left from the turret, I'm serious.

This mission is manageable in the regular story mode. Now if we’re talking about hero mode? Yikes!

There is a special place in hell for the game designers who decide to put that one shooter level in every platformer.

Well now i must think how often Tom Holland or Ruben Fleischer throw their Controller in this mission 🤣🤣.

BRO this mission as a kid made me stop playing jak 2 for a long time. I LITERALLY FINISH JAK 3 BEFORE THIS ONE BECAUSE OF THIS MISSION!!!!!!! Eventually i beat the game

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this mission was hard. Especially on hero mode lol

@GeserAndersen

2 жыл бұрын

a few months ago i was replaying jak 2 in hero mode, and i got stuck on this mission, it's absurdly hard

@tevinjg91

2 жыл бұрын

@@GeserAndersen lol same here.

I didn't see this in the comments. It is one ship. You beat the one side the first time then the next side the second time. It's flying in either direction exposing a different side each time. When you destroy the last side it finally blows to pieces.

If you play it on PS4 you can use the jet-board glitch to "fly" that part, and the game goes on like if you actually beat that part of the mission. Don't know if it works the same on PS5, but when you're on Hero Mode, it helps you a lot.

As a kid i was simply to bad to complete this mission. It was just to hard. Some years later i eventually did manage to complete it. Favorite games ever

@SDayle

2 жыл бұрын

I, too, dropped the game for years, due to this one mission. lol

i think the hardest part is that: 1) when you hit them, they bounce away, making you to redirect your aim and get potentially get hit by a new wave of enemies 2) the sheer amount of enemies you have to take out. it just takes a while and if you die near the end, you have to do it all over again. 3) the reverse controls. this single mission messed me up so bad that i can't play turret sections with normal controls anymore (like in ratchet and clank a crack in time and all for one). but overall it wasn't that hard to beat, i prolly beat it in my third. i def struggled more with some other missions

That wasn't two different ships. The first run you took out its left flank, and the second run you took out its right.

I found this in my recommended after watching a playthrough for nostalgia, and on top of that actually played the mission just after this one. This specific mission is one of the my biggest pains as a kid, ESPECIALLY in hero mode. Those airships were so frustrating to focus, considering my attention span is that of a fly. I honestly feel the same way with the Titan suit, more towards the mission where you're searching Sig underwater.

I played this on hero mode last year and let me tell you, I will never play though that part of the mission with honor from now one because its just not fair.

I agree with you about the difficulty of this game. I do think it's pretty challenging, but it's one of the games I beat more than once closer to when it came out. Most of the games I own, I probably will never finish. But for some reason, I made sure to finish Jak II... (also, it's the best game in the series ;P)

i remember doing this on hero mode, i raged quitted after the 15th death or something. I was frustrated that the invincibility cheat didn't apply to that section

Trick video. All the missions are hard cause of the lack of checkpoints. Be in 5 seconds into the mission or 5 seconds from betting it, you die, you restart from the top

Oh gosh, yes I agree that the drill platform went from 0-100 fast . It tested your entire skill and everything you've learned in the game thus far . Thank you for your content! ~ 🌙💜🌙

the one were you have to throw the bombs into the eco drills while on your hover board before time runs out.... 42 tries for that 1 fracking mission

Took many attempts on the PS2, beat it on my first attempt on PS4. It's all about experience.

@perterror2918

2 жыл бұрын

After 19 years you get used to it

@luminasdiary

2 жыл бұрын

The PS4 controller analogue sticks are also more much responsive and easier to use than the PS2 imo. Shooting games in general are pretty hard on the PS2 gamepad.

I definitely struggled more on the docks mission, I died over and over fighting through that horde.

Oh man fuck this mission on hero mode.

Nah hard missions are the longest marathons for the hover bike bro bro

Ah yes, the mission that makes me drop the game every time

Indeed i remember having a long time for this mission before. Longer than the slums mission.

This mission and ESPECIALLY grabbing the amulet from the slums.

@tishaak2800

2 жыл бұрын

I just turn into dark jak (to tank more hits) And run for my life while occasionally killing guards in my way After Turning into normal jak i just keep doing the rolling jump move

@tishaak2800

2 жыл бұрын

I only die about 2-3 times doing this

I never beat this on hero mode with invincibility. you still take damage in the turret

Tbf it IS one ship. You just fight it twice from different sides. Notice how the ship only explodes after the second encounter

I did this no problem and Im a lefty but what really pisses me off is the missions where you have 3 hits for a 15 minute section of level or mission

Getting the seal in the slums is easily the hardest one.

The biggest things I struggled with in Jak 2 and 3 is the gun courses. I have no idea why I find them so hard.

This mission was impossible for me in Hero mode - only one in the game I couldn’t beat. S/O debug mode lol

The hardest one for me is when you ask to dump six bombs in 2 minutes

Nah this is cake compared to the crimson guard barrage at the slum if you don't glitch.

You know, I never had a problem with this level.

This mission took me a few tries but honestly the hoverboard strip mine with 6 bombs was the only mission where I needed a guide lol

Jak 2 made me understand 1 lesson, always go prepared, never waste ammo... how many time did i regret my whole life having no ammo for a mission... i did the sewer mission with almost no ammo at the begin... dam how did my past self did that

Races in the arena and the race against Eron were the hardest for me..

Ngl this was one of the few missions I had no trouble with lmao

This mission is hard as balls on hero mode. All the guards need an extra hit or two to kill and it gets damn near impossible

I never really found this mission that hard as a kid, but in hero mode I struggled a bit. But I've always been the best gamer in the family

This mission on hero mode does suck if you're not going to make any skips. The crimson guards are painful I always used to die with about 10-15 left of them.

I agree, that's why i'm glad there is a exploit to get around it.

I found the mission where you need to escape the docks overrun by guards harder.

I know a trick to the first ones. Before you get in the cannon turn into Dark Jak, go to the edge of the platform to the right of it a little way from the fence, and use Dark Blast. That should get rid of the first ones. Doesn’t always work but most often it does.

I stumbled on this Mission for a long time. I think it is really the hardest

I'm playing this again for the first time since I was a kid; got through this mission fairly easily, I do remember having a tough time as a kid though. The mission that has kicked my ass the most so far was escaping the Krimzon Guard in the Slums. Just base difficulty run rn though.

I was stuck here for like 3 months when a I was a kid !!!

I always struggled on the riding the rocket as dex

God damn, this takes me back. No aim-assist. Absolute madness.

Also it is hard asf, but with experience, yeah it makes it easier

i managed to beat this on hero mode a while back, it requires your entire focus and you need to be mindful of where you bounce the guards to when you shoot them

This mission is so hard on Hero mode that right after I get through it (which takes me hours) I create a new save after coming off the platform so I NEVER have to do it again. Did it for PS2 & PS3, now I'm replaying on PS5.

It's my favorite game of the PS2 era. I didn't think it was that hard. Then again, I've never played hero mode.

I totally agree. I thought this was harder than the "Get Seal Piece at Water Slums" one. Or anything else in Jak II, really.

inverted turret controls ftw lolz

This mission on the ps vita is insane.

I just remember struggling with 2 particular missions. Destroying the bombs on some towers with the hoverboard(yes not hard but takes a few tries when you're like 9) and the glowy thing extraction that has the glitch to groundpunch the water with dark jak. Most of the game I did melle only where I could do it without glitches

If there were even 10 fewer, 30 Krimson Guards, it would be much more tolerable even on hero mode. Also I think they spawn on a timer so you theoretically could have all 40 of them flying around at once but I could be wrong. Also yes you do need to be giant dark jak for the trick at the start to work I believe. The range of Dark Blast while in GDJ form in fucking insane. You can do it from literally any location on the platform and it will work, it will even kill the metal heads on the lower left platform.

This level was definitely the hardest for me, I had to walk away from the game for a while

It's not two ships, it's the different sides of the same ship.

Reaching this part as a kid straight up made me quit the game for like 6 months or so. To be honest I had more trouble with the Erol race through the city. I hate how the race zoomers control.

I haven't finished the game thanks to this mission

Never had this issue on the mission. It's easy af

Yes! I just struggled through this mission playing it like 20 times and I feel like I only pass the first part out of luck and memorization. The second to thirds are easy as balls, the first part is what had me stuck for forever.

Im pretty sure this level has variable difficulty but i dont know what causes it to sometimes be easier or harder

As someone who beat the game 4x. This mission alone. Would make me walk away for a week at a time. Multiple times. Never beat Hero mode because of this.

Screw that mission! God am impossible.

Yup, this one was harder than water slums for me. The combination of janky movement controls, no aim-assist, and guards swarming you from every angle made me want to absolutely smash my controller. At least with water slums you can just hoverboard your way out before the guards have a chance to drop onto the path.

mmmh this is not very hard, for me the hardest is the race in city is awful

I'm pretty sure you can get the Seal-piece at the Dig before doing this mission? Also yea, a complete nightmare on Hero mode xD I don't understand how it's physically possible to do this mission normally on hero mode. I was like "Ah yea, ofc the devs have designed it so that you can use invulnerability for this mission" but nope, that doesn't work for turrets

1:00. Umm…no. It’s one ship. You damage the port side of it in the first wave and it retreats, then in the second wave you fight it on its starboard side and that finally destroys it. But yeah, this section isn’t that hard on its own but on Hero Mode it becomes fucking ridiculous. The enemy waves spawn in much more quickly as the section progresses and by the end you’ll more than likely be dealing with three waves coming in one after another and they’ll overwhelm you VERY quickly. It wouldn’t surprise me if this one mission is what got ND to add aim assist in Jak 3. Btw, Dark Jak cheat only works on the very first set of enemies…the 40 hover guards aren’t affected because they haven’t spawned in yet. As for doing that section on Hero Mode, the best strategy is to hit the enemies as much as possible to stun them (it’ll interrupt their firing animation for at least a couple seconds), and to begin firing at the waves as they spawn in and kill as many of them as possible before they’re even in range to shoot. Even then it’s just pure skill and luck needed to win. Save up as much health on the turret as possible leading up to the 40 guards too.

Nah, hardest mission is the hoverboard one on the lake where you have to destroy the things inbetween mines in like 2 minutes

@bkkersey93

2 жыл бұрын

Nah. That one is tedious, but this one is a pain.

Concuerdo, esta misión hizo que dejase el juego durante 3 o 4 meses y aún así sigo adorando el juego

Racing errol to the stadium is my pick.

As bad as this mission was, I personally have more of a hatred for any mission that involves escorting characters, but my overall most hated mission is a tie between that race against Errol and that one mission when you are on that docks area and you have to fight your way through the Krimson Guards.

@itsjustvin7630

2 жыл бұрын

The docks are easy tho. Just dark bomb the water then jetboard outta there or just jetboard glitch hop boost to the next dock

I deleted the game on this level cus fuck this level

There are plenty of missions that made the game almost impossible to finish at times but yeah

I had trouble with this mission when I was around 13. I beat it but was frustrating as heck.

It might be just me but I’ve never had much problems getting through this mission, I’d even found it a lot of fun going through. Getting the seal piece and the Eco well destroying mission however… yeah fuck them.

Oh my god when I was a kid I was completely stuck on this mission to the point that I was close to quit the game for good Good to know other people think it's fkin bullshit

Call me a liar if you will but I could never get passed this level, dropped it and about a year later I start the game up but somehow was passed this? So either someone DID complete it for me or it had to have been a glitch but I remember being passed this part without doing it myself

With this many hard missions, is it worth playing?

you could just hover to the last part