Nothing explains this better than the "try and tap your foot to it" example. It's just immediately intuitive.

"Try tapping your foot to it" My foot: "Bruh, what even are you trying to do right now that's it I quit"

Also just wanted to say, as a Greek person, this switching about of time signatures wasn't too uncommon in some Balkan music, of which some parts of tracks draw inspiration from. I think the Balkan influences I could hear the most in the battle with Theseus and the Minotaur, really strong tune in that which I've heard at so many weddings xD Which was an interesting take considering it was a fight, but I liked the reference. I feel Korb really captured some traditional Greek essence in his prog rock which I deeply appreciated.

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

I'm not well-versed in Balkan music history, so I wasn't thinking in those terms but wow you're right! It's a perfect match.

I really appreciate the way you break everything down. As someone uninitiated in the realm of music theory I still find these videos very easy to understand and very interesting. I just hope it's not too painful to always have to break everything down for the people like me who don't already know all this stuff.

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

It's not painful at all! Actually, it's WHY I started making these videos. The only tedious part is making all the graphics, since that's a realm *I'm* uninitiated in. But the explanations and breakdowns are all thoughts I have on a regular basis, and I couldn't keep them inside anymore. It makes me really happy that you can understand it!

Basically a 'music has rule but those rules disregarded if you can make it sound good without following them'.

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

That's the secret of all good art!

Ah rhythm my old enemy. Can never escape, just like the game haha. For all of Supergiant's games I absolutely love how music is incorporated into the world. Every little thing they do helps immerse you into the game. Here's hoping you can get more subscribers!

Wtf I’d expect this quality from a channel with 100x as many subs

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! Gotta start somewhere, right?

And then after suffering through all of the torment of hell you get to the final harder version of the boss and he got a OVER JAMMING version of this song.

Appreciate the thorough details here. It’s awesome.

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

Just saw your channel, you're pretty awesome yourself!

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

@@JonathanBarouch having just started 7 months ago I know what the time and effort are like. You’ve got this. Good thing to start with these two giants. Loved snow and summer breakdown. More musicians need to be talking about VGM. Keep going!

Everything i learn about Hades makes me love it more

Randomly watched this video on fullscreen presuming this is probably one of those million viewed videos which got recommended but HOLY SHIT this is so underrated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Never Stop man....

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

Just getting started! Thank you

What a masterful study of the amazing work of art that is Hades and its soundtrack! Between that and your 13th Struggle video, you got yourself a subscriber. Hope to be here when you go viral, Jonathan!

glad youtube recommended this, very well produced! can't wait to see more

This was a joy to watch. You put to words some of the thoughts I'd had about the way the music sounds and the thoughts I've had about how it fits together with the game. It's a *blast* to play and jam to and it filled me with glee to hear you decipher it and break it down for us. Thanks!

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad! I've had these thoughts for a while too, and I knew my family was tired of hearing them, so to KZread I went.

totally loved the video. keep it up

Interesting, clear and easy to understand. Well done !

Hey man, I found your channel from the last video you uploaded about Nier and I am VERY happy that you've made another video in only 2 weeks. Your videos and explanations are super well done and I'm very glad I came across your channel, please continue what you're doing, I'm sure you'll reach a greater audience someday! I've shared this video with many friends and their reactions were like: wow I didn't even understand anything about music but the explanations were so understandable that I felt like I've been studying it for years! Also one of the games that I've played recently which I really really enjoyed the soundtracks was Elden Ring, the final boss theme called The Final Battle actually made me cry for about 40 minutes straight, something I really felt while listening to it for hours after finishing the game was that in the second phase of the music, at the 3:44 mark I felt like they didn't let the music reach its climax and actually stole the feeling of joy from you when you could feel the track reaching its top form, which I also think it can be related to the god (Elden Beast) which is stuck there and its purpose is to stop you from becoming the Elden Lord, so he's forced to fight you and that's why they don't let the track reach its climax, or maybe I'm over analyzing stuff haha. Thank you again for your hard work, keep on keeping on

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, that means a lot! I'll keep this up as long as I can, it just comes down to whether or not I can get far enough with this to keep taking time off work. I haven't beaten Elden Ring yet (Still stuck on the freaking Godskin Duo) but this gives me another reason to try, try again. I'll make a note to take a close look at that track!

@huemiliation3511

Жыл бұрын

​@@JonathanBarouch I was also stuck at the GodSkin Duo, craft some sleeping pots and you can beat them very easily. I wish you the best with your channel and I'm really hoping to see more of your content because it's really amazing, entertaining and informative!

Nice video!

This was a fantastic explanation. Good job!

You deserve so much more subscribers, nice work man

This was a great video! I hope it get's the attention it deserves

Amazing work, man! Such an interesting topic to cover

found this channel from your star rail wildfire video i didnt know the songs varied so much between runs and I’ve played the game for hundreds of hours! you’re an inspiration, i wish i understood and could communicate music theory as well as you do love your videos!

Such a great video. Please do more breakdowns like this!

nice breakdown, thanks for the knowledge

Wow, I thought I was just early, but it seems your channel is simply still small! You deserve more views, and I'm glad YT's algorithm, in its benevolence, graced my suggestions with your video :) I have a soft spot for irregular time signature music that sounds good, so Out of Tartarus is one of my favorite tracks (I like Hades's OST for combining metal and Middle Eastern style, like Shades of Black). The game franchise Touhou Project has several tracks with irregular time signature (Rural Makai City Esoteria (my favorite), Hartman's Youkai Girl, Retribution for the Eternal Night ~ Imperishable Night, UN Owen was her?...).

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

I'm also grateful to the algorithm! Thank you. Ohh... UN Owen Was Her might be fun to do... no promises!

massively underrated video! Entertaining and educating without feeling overwhelming. Thank you!

the analyses are sick, please continue making them

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

I'll make them as long as I'm able!

Wow this was actually really cool. And here I thought Skimbleshanks from Cats was wild at 13 beats per measure XD I'll be watching for more music focused videos!

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

I mean, Skimbleshanks is definitely pretty nuts. Plenty more to come!

Wow, a 21/8 time signature when unseparated. I should probably play this game. Your end card is glorious! 😂

Great video Jonathan!

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Very cool to see you here, you've got great stuff

Wow!!!! This was REALLY cool and fun to watch, and I don't even know anything about music! 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

The KH Video Organisation 13 was recommended to me and I liked a lot. Then I thought I would check out your other Videos and dude I love your Humor 😄👍 And the way you can explain music Theorie to Someone like me who has not a lot of knowledge in a entertaining and point making way is really cool 😃 It makes me appreciate the music 🎶 I already really like in video games even more 👍 So yeah got yourself a new subscriber 😊

Thanks KZread for recommending you to me. My first video with you is 13th struggle and I enjoyed it. I hope you make more. I’m a fan of good video game music and for the longest times it feels like I’m the only one who does. Hearing this from a musician is great and affirmative

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

There's a lot of us on KZread actually! I'll keep putting out videos as long as I can, but in the meantime check out 8-bit Music Theory if you haven't already! He's great.

@chamtabo

Жыл бұрын

@@JonathanBarouch that’s a great recommendation, thank you!

Shiiiii this videos are great, gonna have to drop a sub

The soundtrack does in fact slaps

This is so interesting actually! I never heard of Hades before but I'll have to check it out. The way these osts work is so original and smart! Once again, wonderful video on your end. I can't wait to see more!

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Yeah if you like rogue-lite games and fast-paced combat, I can't recommend Hades enough 👍

This is a REALLY good video. I gave a like (I pretty much always do if a video is even slightly good) and was gonna leave, then saw you have only 700 subscribers? That felt like a couple hundred thousand lower than I expected. Subbed

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! One step closer to getting what I need to make this channel a success :)

This was really great! Thank you for the analysis! I wish there was some examples from the other tracks thrown in but overall i really enjoy your pacing and thoughts about it!

I'm really loving your approachable style and explanations! And I knew the Hades soundtrack was as adaptable as the rest of its play-three dozen-times-and-never-get-bored format, but not really how it worked, or how it did so much work in supporting the player's successes. That's awesome!

God describing it via the mindset of a Jam Sesh is SO good because that's exactly how it feels when playing the bassline before everything kicks into the boss / full renditions

Hell yeah

Dang I kinda noticed that the combat tracks play in a inconcistent way During Gameplay but I never thought about all the programing and extra work this most hace take It Great video!

Found your stuff just really, absolutely fantastic content. I loved this game loads. I'd really love to see your breakdown of The City Must Survive from Frostpunk. Gives me chills on every level both in and out of context of the game

@JonathanBarouch

10 ай бұрын

Noted!

"Hey wanna see something funny? Hand this to a musician and ask them to sight read it!" That doesn't sound like fun, that sounds like getting assaulted.

Subbed! Well put together and informative! Thank you. KZread algorithm actually doing something good for once. lol

I've recently started Hades and I looove your analysis of the style. The time signature part was really funny lmaooo it's as confusing for every musician

I hereby push for all instances of "Anonymous" to be replaced with "Who Knows" or "idk try-hard look it up".

Great video! Would love to see analysis of some tracks from Nier Automata's soundtrack! Both KH and Nier are my absolute favourite franchises, and a big part of it has always been the music in them, love your work

@JonathanBarouch

9 ай бұрын

Thank you! I don't yet know precisely when I'll get to NieR: Automata but it's a high priority

Korb also used a time signature swap prominently in the Transistor track "In Circles," it's 5/4 (or 3 then 2) in the verses and 6/4 for the chorus. Really noticeable in the second half of the track when the overdrive guitars kick in and you get that triple meter headbang going, another commenter on the KZread listing for that track also notes the harp remains in 4/4 so it's got this polyrhythm kinda feel to it too.

@JonathanBarouch

8 ай бұрын

I never noticed that about the harp, how cool!

Nice

Dynamic soundtracks are so complex and hard to implement. Another good example of dynamic transitions between different tracks happens in Octopath Traveler, between the pre-boss music (one of the 8 tracks depending on the character, e.g. "For Treasure" for Tressa) and the actual boss music ("Decisive Battle I", "Decisive Battle II", or "Battle at Journey's End").

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

I haven't played Octopath, but I love dynamic soundtracks! I'll check those out

@wileamyp

Жыл бұрын

@@JonathanBarouch Just to clarify, the game itself doesn't use a dynamic soundtrack, but it has dynamic transitions for the boss battle themes. Here's a video that explains the dynamic transitions in detail: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lGuOxZWfaMa2nrg.html

Please do one about Good Riddance from Hades And maybe also everything else in Hades lol, especially Good Riddance though

I believe the fact that he would've regretted not having metal in a game about hell is just a Doom reference. You can even hear E1M1 from Doom IN the song Out of Tartarus. It's just a giant homage .

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

Oh man I had no idea! That's really cool. And totally makes sense.

Hi! Great breakdown. Only thing I wanted to add, that when you said to tap ma feet, I immediatly started to dance some european folk dance moves. I'm not even from greece, but it seems perfetly resonable to think that the time signiture has something to do with greek (or european) music. I would love to hear your thoughts on this topic, if you find anything.

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

Ohhh! I hadn't made this observation. Frankly, I don't have the art history knowledge to have that discussion, but I could easily see that being the case.

I never knew the music system was so in-depth. I don't know much about music composition but it's amazing what Korb managed to accomplish with such an odd approach to signature. Also, what did you mean at 1:25 by "but you'll probably only hear two"? Are some tracks less likely to play / only play under certain conditions?

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

Ah, my bad, I meant two per run. For example, you might hear two, then die, and then hear two different ones and neither of the previous two.

@Dragonoidalpha

Жыл бұрын

@@JonathanBarouch Alright thanks, that makes sense

Great break down adn awesome video! But as a metalhead... Metal and rock by proxy are associated with ALL macabre and occult themes. There are metal bands dedicated to Greek Mythology such as the song Thanatos which is a reference about Thanatos the actual god of dead to Hades being the god OF the dead. There are songs about ancient egyptians, witchcraft, demons both Christian/Catholic and Islamic, native american references, norse references. Metal falls into any of the dark parts of the world as that is where it rests so having metal in a game about Hades is quite fitting.

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

Hey, the more you know! Thanks for sharing, and sorry for the slander

@suruthebeast4065

Жыл бұрын

@@JonathanBarouch Psh hardly slander! I just like to spread that bit of knowledge because a lot of people don't know. A good chunk of it is based on Judeo religion which is why it's related to 'Devil Music' and how you can hear Satan if you listen to lyrics backwards allegedly. Most non-metal listeners don't know that it goes well beyond haha.

6/8 != 3/4 in any dimension. 6/8 while yes is counted in 2 and you change where the emphasis lies, 6/8 is counted in duplets. A duplet is a note or series of notes that have slightly different musical timing. for example you can listen to Piano Man by Billy Joel which is 3/4 and then compare it to idk a sea shanty of example and even though I've they have the same types of notes in a given bar they will sound off.

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

I don't think I understand what you mean. If you count 6/8 in 2, you're probably counting triplets, unless the music explicitly has prominent duplet pairs written in it. In a sea shanty you count two sets of triplets per measure, and in Piano Man you count three sets of duplets. But in either piece, so long as the tempo is the same, a note of the same value takes the same amount of time to play.

@gorillafighter4037

Жыл бұрын

@@JonathanBarouch Do I mean Tuplets. I'm sorry I'm a bit tired right now. I forgot my point exactly. sorry uhh. goodbye

69th comment to _suggest_ that in some universes you do not necesarily _have_ to pay for Adobe's outrageously priced software, hypothetically, in Minecraft. Also, Great video 👍

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

Nice nice nice nice nice. Yeah it's true, there are other options! So far I haven't found anything that rivals Creative Cloud in terms of being an all-in-one package for video, audio, and graphics though. Perhaps I ought to look harder.

This video was amazing! I never knew how complex the music structure in this game was. subscribed

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

Welcome in! Glad to have you

Is adobe really completely necessary? This is not the stuff you are using but I found very competitive single-pay alternatives for photoshop and publisher so there must be stuff out there, right?

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

I'm not an expert on the market but every similar software I've used has major bugs and quality of life issues that waste a lot of time.

@michimatsch5862

Жыл бұрын

@@JonathanBarouch yeah, fair enough. Great video, sadly a university student so unable to support. But I'll share the video to some people in my orchestra.

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

That's more than enough! Thank you

take my engagement and get monetized

@JonathanBarouch

Жыл бұрын

We're there!! Thank you so much