The Greatest Chess Games Ever - Part 3: Post-1972 | Dojo Talks

The Dojo rank the Top 10 best chess games played since 1972.
0:00 Intro
6:04 Number 10
17:08 Number 9
22:29 Number 8
28:06 Number 7
36:34 Number 6
46:44 Number 5
1:04:17 Number 4
1:20:10 Number 3
1:42:27 Number 2
1:55:56 Number 1
2:09:38 Final Remarks
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  • @CastroMKE
    @CastroMKE Жыл бұрын

    Man, I always love your insight, guys. Kostya is kind of the one I relate to the most, Jesse is kind of like the OG whose word you kind of just heed because of the experience in the game, and David is the one that really broadens my perspective in a kind of think outside the box, philosophical approach.

  • @reallyrealbutterfly3602
    @reallyrealbutterfly3602 Жыл бұрын

    showi8ng the chess games means I can make sure I am looking at the right one.. I don't care what Jesse has to say on this matter! 10 seconds won't hurt

  • @a_doggo
    @a_doggo Жыл бұрын

    This series has been beyond epic. Dunno why KZread didn’t surface it to me because I’m enthralled. Saw 2 then watched 1 and 3. Great stuff! So honest and interesting. Would love a bit more explanation but I’m cherry picking

  • @Evan-gl3vp
    @Evan-gl3vp Жыл бұрын

    I was hoping Grigory Serper - Ioannis Nikolaidis, 1993 would make the list.

  • @rentsy3444

    @rentsy3444

    Жыл бұрын

    prayers get answered

  • @davidwagner6116
    @davidwagner611619 күн бұрын

    Thank you, gentlemen! This is a great episode.

  • @shouldersofgiants4649
    @shouldersofgiants4649 Жыл бұрын

    I quickly scrolled to 2:01:39 to see your final list. I gotta say I appreciate David even more for picking interesting, non-cliche yet brilliant games on his list. As this period had an explosion on high quality chess, seems to me it could have been broken down further, but then again more work for you guys, so your call.

  • @davidfranklin5426
    @davidfranklin5426 Жыл бұрын

    Ivanchuk-Yusupov was indeed a rapid game, because that Candidates Match went to rapid tiebreaks. In my view, that only makes it more impressive.

  • @roqsteady5290

    @roqsteady5290

    8 ай бұрын

    The more time Ivanchuk has, the more deeply he gets into time trouble 😒

  • @Swishead
    @Swishead Жыл бұрын

    I feel like I've got a real cultural education with these 3 best games videos. A crash course in the best games in history!

  • @omardiab1043
    @omardiab1043 Жыл бұрын

    Personaly I liked the first and second part more where you express your perspektive about the game and how and why it ends up in your last list, not only analyzing the game or showing the move but also you explained what value that this game brought to the chess board, or which idea that changed entirely after this game, so it was not only more instructive about chess but also educational about the chess history and chess improvement, despite all of that Thanks for your effort I appreciate your time and hard work to bring this amazing Content.

  • @yzfool6639
    @yzfool6639 Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate David's insight that surprise that a move that looks "bad" is good, informs whether we will think a game is good. Given this, the stronger you get, the more beautiful chess must get, since you tend to correctly see what's wrong with a move instantly. Imagine when that move is the top engine move. Time to reconsider your chess understanding.

  • @renobgm
    @renobgm Жыл бұрын

    To club players like me, nothing is more helpful than having 3 Masters agree more or less on a list. It's ultra concentrated and easier than analyzing for consensus among other strong players. One of your videos has the educational nutrition of 10 GM or Gotham guides.

  • @NotQuiteFirst
    @NotQuiteFirst Жыл бұрын

    Thanks guys, this has been a really great series. You should continue the format, maybe doing player specific or opening specific lists - eg top 10 Garry games, or top 10 English opening games etc.

  • @Yornek1
    @Yornek111 ай бұрын

    Just realizing there were 63 comments and decided to make the 64th comment. I must also say that Chess Dojo is in my Top 3 listened to chess channels and I listen a lot of chess channels. Top tier material.

  • @ChessDojo

    @ChessDojo

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks!!

  • @kwhd559
    @kwhd559 Жыл бұрын

    Piket - Kasparov - 1989 - 28...Nh1! and Piket resigns - A picturesque aesthetic that reinforced my love of the King's Indian ❤❤❤

  • @lowtherlars
    @lowtherlars Жыл бұрын

    Love the shrek reference David

  • @letsmakeit110
    @letsmakeit110 Жыл бұрын

    Before watching I'll nominate Wei Yi v Bruzon It's an outside shot but I'm hoping someone put an engine game on their list the TCEC is like watching a magic show I mean honestly look up season 23 superfinal game 99 and tell me that's not one of the most beautiful fortresses you've ever seen in your life.

  • @joeldick6871
    @joeldick6871 Жыл бұрын

    You should put the Carlsen Nepo Game 6 game in the list of games to memorize for the 2800+ band.

  • @wengeshi6797
    @wengeshi6797 Жыл бұрын

    It would be greatly appreciated if you could post the linkof pgn of all the games. Definitely my son would like to study.

  • @razznote7586
    @razznote7586 Жыл бұрын

    This should have been 1973-1999 and 2000-2023ish, as there has been a boom of chess activity in the last 50 years. And there are lots and lots of games that could be in the greatest category. I'm sure they missed a lot more than we could appreciate. Hopefully, they could revisit soon, or maybe a part 2 of those that have not made it but colossal on their own. Please.

  • @ChessDojo

    @ChessDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    3 parts isn't enough!? You want us to redo the show? 🙂

  • @irvingcastelazzo5867
    @irvingcastelazzo5867 Жыл бұрын

    It is incredible that this game is not there Ivanchuk vs Kasparov 1991 Linares round 1 in february 23 since on the one hand it is the greatest defeat for Kasparov and one of the greatest victories for one of the greatest geniuses of all time. Máster Ivanchuk. This amazing.

  • @ChessDojo

    @ChessDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    It was on our list of candidates but of course not every game can make the top 10 🙂

  • @TarrafTarraf
    @TarrafTarraf Жыл бұрын

    thank you for the show , amazing games , note : Karpov - Unzicker Olympiad 1974 strategical masterpiece why not in ????

  • @TheGPel
    @TheGPel Жыл бұрын

    Imma bet there are gonna be some kasparov vs karpov games in here + imma say that the octupus game wil be in someones top 5

  • @DaydreamVacations
    @DaydreamVacations Жыл бұрын

    Does the dojo have any training videos on KZread focused on the subjects of Force Count and Splitting The Board? Kasparov model games?

  • @chesscomdpruess

    @chesscomdpruess

    Жыл бұрын

    We will have to have Jesse record a video on that game.

  • @ArchangleTyrel2
    @ArchangleTyrel2 Жыл бұрын

    Get rid of any of the other Carlsen games and replace with Carlsen Fedoseev World Cup 2021, either game as white or as black. These games really define Carlsen’s choking style, except they take it to the extreme. Instead of a slow strangle hold or gradual constriction, for both games it looks like as soon as the game starts Carlsen immediately gets rid of all of Fedoseev’s pieces without even touching them. In modern chess you rarely see anyone making a super GM match so incredibly one sided, and to do it twice in a row in basically the same exact way just blew my mind.

  • @stormixgaming8389

    @stormixgaming8389

    Жыл бұрын

    Phenomenal games

  • @chesscomdpruess

    @chesscomdpruess

    Жыл бұрын

    I looked at both those games, definitely considered them! I have a list of my favorite ~35 Carlsen games, but there's more and more. We are definitely lucky that he has played so much, even if Jesse is disappointed he doesn't want to play the WC match this year.

  • @PeterM64
    @PeterM64 Жыл бұрын

    lmao Polugaevsky trading his career for that one game😂

  • @Graceclaw
    @Graceclaw Жыл бұрын

    "We have to hurry up" - 2.25 hour video

  • @ronfuse6993
    @ronfuse6993 Жыл бұрын

    I would love to see the best games by opening. Top 10 Sicilians, top 10 grunfields, so on and so forth

  • @9181shreyasbhatt
    @9181shreyasbhatt10 ай бұрын

    the final tally of the players who were on the winning side of these brilliancies would have been an interesting one

  • @TimSeltzer
    @TimSeltzer Жыл бұрын

    Maybe David is really moving to France to commune with the spirt of the greatest chess player ever, the immortal Philidor!

  • @jamesknapp64
    @jamesknapp64 Жыл бұрын

    The "Greatest Move of All Time" things is something that depends on your level. When I first saw this game, it was on Agadmoter's channel and he paused and asked to find the "greatest move of all time or so they say" and many people were like well the only way to have a brilliant move is to sac the bishop and thus its what I call a "guessable move". There isn't enough material on the board to make finding it hard *if you know there is a great move in that position*. Unlike say Marshall's gold coin move, lots of material on the board and Marshall already being up material Queen sac wouldn't be the first thing that comes to mind. Fisher's Move of the Century and Nezmdinov vs Pulguyvsky Rook Plunge leaving the queen hanging. I would never be able to guess those moves or see why they work. Now in terms of if you were given that position and asked to find the move, yeah Not many people are even going to consider the Bishop Sac Shirov did, which is one of the reason's it so amazing. The fact its the only winning move and stockfish has to go pretty deep depth to understand it adds to is lore. Thus the human element of finding it over the board is amazing. David's top game is amazing, the fact there are 26 different games out of 30 possible and all of them feel like they "belong" on the top ten shows how many great games have been played in the past 50 years.

  • @sachinpaul2111
    @sachinpaul21115 ай бұрын

    Watching this back now. What about Anand v Caruana where Anand plays Qd4 in the end ? Also why does attack get all the love? What about good defence? I LOVE the game 4 defence in world championship 2016 by Karjakin (the “minister of defence” game)

  • @user-df7on5tt9c
    @user-df7on5tt9c Жыл бұрын

    No final ranking this time. Calculate as same standard, 1. Kasparov Topalpov 1999 (20) 2. Karpov Kasparov Nd3 (12) 3. Bagirov Gufeld 1973 / Serper Nikoladis (10). 5. Topalpov Shirov 1998 (9) 6. Kasparov Portisch 1983 / Polugaevsky Torre 1981 / Lautier Shirov 1990 (8)

  • @trondeg74
    @trondeg7411 ай бұрын

    One of Carlsen's H1 2019 games would have been nice, when he was killing people with WC prep and Alpha Zero-infused play. Maybe the mirror game - Giri- Carlsen from GCT Zagreb?

  • @basqye9
    @basqye9 Жыл бұрын

    10:05 Jesse dropping some truth bombs

  • @haydenn680
    @haydenn680 Жыл бұрын

    Ivanchuk Kasparov Lineras I think 91 where Ivanchuk just smothered the WC should have been a number 1. Better than more than half of these games in my opinion But loved this whole series!!

  • @1popte277
    @1popte277 Жыл бұрын

    Fyi, Bai is the family name and Jinshi is the given name, and Ding is the family name and Liren is the given name. So it would probably be more consistent to list it as Bai Jinshi - Ding Liren. A quick way to tell is that Chinese family names are usually one syllable, and if a name is multiple syllables, it's usually the given name, eg. Hou (family name) Yifan (given name). Family names come before the given names in Chinese.

  • @ChessDojo

    @ChessDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for clarifying! I never know how to write their names 🙂 -Kostya

  • @the-Alexandrus
    @the-Alexandrus Жыл бұрын

    Better 10 favorite and instructive games each year!! ;)

  • @chesscomdpruess

    @chesscomdpruess

    Жыл бұрын

    good idea :D Enough episodes to be its own separate podcast/series.

  • @the-Alexandrus

    @the-Alexandrus

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chesscomdpruess You haven't started yet, but already has at least one sub! It's damned for success $)

  • @dastankuspaev9217
    @dastankuspaev9217 Жыл бұрын

    Firouzja- kartikeyan not on the list sadly. you can remove Serper game for it

  • @ChessDojo

    @ChessDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    Great game! Queen sac

  • @Arjaniskoel
    @Arjaniskoel Жыл бұрын

    Put in Ivanchuk - Kasparov, Linares 1991 and take out Topalov Shirov (J), Gashimov - Grischuk (D) and Karpov - Topalov (K)

  • @ChessDojo

    @ChessDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    Following instructions! 😄

  • @Eidenhoek
    @Eidenhoek Жыл бұрын

    Okay, I agree with David, because chess is about being as romantic as possible.

  • @Weebi1242
    @Weebi1242 Жыл бұрын

    My fav K v K was game 22 from 1986 match

  • @russellbaker4256

    @russellbaker4256

    4 ай бұрын

    It wasn't a great game in itself. Genius psychology tho

  • @mischatal
    @mischatal Жыл бұрын

    Jesse should read "Play better chess," by Len Barden published 1980. He might see past the headline and learn something. Hooper wrote even earlier on the Endgame.

  • @postmasterpez
    @postmasterpez Жыл бұрын

    Funny! Im an unraited amature chess player that consider myself as a huge chessfan and I probobly would not have taken any of this games on my list. My fave is Bobby Fischer game of the centery. That knight move in the begining is insane, and then the queen sac and the beutyfull windwill at the end. And Bobby was 13! Its insane to my and I have hard to see that it whent in so much prep to this game, just over the board genius (maybe). Then I would probobly put some Tal-games and Nedmetinov and morphy-games and that karpov game when he totally freezes his opponents coubterplay and the build up the possion and won. And also a random MVL game that I came buy years ago and its very hard to find. The combination in the end are so striking with and underpromotion to a knight at the end that blow my mind.

  • @ChessDojo

    @ChessDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    This show was about the best games after the year 1972, Fischer's classic and other games were of course mentioned in the previous episode which focused on games between 1920-1972 🙂

  • @postmasterpez

    @postmasterpez

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ChessDojo Ah right that explains alot! Ok, that Kasparov game is pretty good...

  • @mcronrn
    @mcronrn Жыл бұрын

    Will this help me beat the Penguin at bullet? 😳

  • @michelcharbonnier7603
    @michelcharbonnier76037 ай бұрын

    While Kasparonv-Topolov is and always will be my favourite game of all time, kudos to David. I didn't know Serper-Nikolaidis, but what an incredible game.

  • @teepee5489
    @teepee5489 Жыл бұрын

    Why hope that Short gets cancelled? 29:37

  • @marcofrey2903
    @marcofrey2903Ай бұрын

    I didn't know Bill Cosby was one of the greats.

  • @aaronadams7831
    @aaronadams7831 Жыл бұрын

    Someone needs to teach Jesse how the snake draft works. He still doesn’t get it. Haha

  • @treschocos5529
    @treschocos55298 ай бұрын

    many are talking about my game they considered it as the best

  • @ronfuse6993
    @ronfuse6993 Жыл бұрын

    Smash the like 👍 button

  • @blueguitarist
    @blueguitarist Жыл бұрын

    What was the rush? Why not show the games? Smh. Thanks for doing it though

  • @user-ro9md9wp3j

    @user-ro9md9wp3j

    Жыл бұрын

    Idk some of these guys have kids to raise

  • @blueguitarist

    @blueguitarist

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow and they stop showing them half way through. Dumb move

  • @ChessDojo

    @ChessDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    2 hour show boss!

  • @blueguitarist

    @blueguitarist

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ChessDojo you are forgiven. Thanks for the great show

  • @chesscomdpruess

    @chesscomdpruess

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad to hear someone wants longer shows :) In this particular case, we had scheduled about 70 consecutive hours of shows on twitch, and the next show was going to be a collaboration with another streamer, so if we had gone on for another hour we would have been keeping someone waiting. That said, I still wanted to show the games :P

  • @lemmingbcn
    @lemmingbcn6 ай бұрын

    What's with young people canceling everybody that is not themselves? Sick of this crap really. Even in a chess video, I have to hear that nonsense?

  • @ChessDojo

    @ChessDojo

    6 ай бұрын

    Cancelled!