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@the-monocle

Жыл бұрын

Beckett is severely underated

@Blazeyboy12

11 ай бұрын

The last one Salazars father was killed by pirates

The POTC trilogy is GOATED

@TheSEAempire

Жыл бұрын

This guy gets it!

@albertthealpaca7712

Жыл бұрын

it’s just a trilogy, they never made a movie after At World’s End

@onemoreminute0543

Жыл бұрын

@@albertthealpaca7712 I have a soft spot for On Stranger Tides, but Dead Men Tell No Tales was awful

@WorldWeave

Жыл бұрын

The first three are perfect, 4 is good, but unnecessary…5 is ok at its BEST, and a retconing piece of shit at its WORST

@benb5308

Жыл бұрын

Genuinely can't understand why people hate on them so much, it's so good

I think one of the reasons Beckett was such a good villain is because he was so REAL. With the other ones being cursed or using some sort of magic it's all just fantasy. But Beckett is really just a man with a lot of power, and people like him actually exist.

@TheSEAempire

Жыл бұрын

Especially since Beckett is currently running Disney lmfao

@sidharthcs2110

9 ай бұрын

If we were to look at the history of English East India company, Dutch East India company and many colonial powers , you will find many more the likes of Beckett

@aslakskamsaraasen9407

6 ай бұрын

THIS he has no super human abileties he is not imortal you the viewer has a fair shot at him in a fist fight but his politivmcal power is huge and he welds it well wich is a rare type of vilain that is not used often

@themug406

5 ай бұрын

"Just fantasy" is a really weird take, they were still well characterised within the movie universe, and that fantasy power actually made the twists of leverage stronger

Blackbeard isn't a bad villain the problem is lord Becket did the whole pure evil villain archetype much better in the previous films so he's feels like a little redundant

@TheSEAempire

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, fair enough. Also I love the pfp and username, I love Rick Astley 😂

@CaptainRocks777

Жыл бұрын

One

@thehoodedone3822

4 күн бұрын

I think Blackbeard could have been better with a better story wrapped around his character

Blackbeard had potential but was underutilized. Salazar... well, the effects are cool. But his rivalry with Jack feels manufactured and all I remember him saying for the whole movie was 'JACK SPARRAH'

@TheSEAempire

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! Blackbeard is easily one of the most interesting historical figures in my opinion, so if they either made him like the On Stranger Tides book (which predates the film by decades), or the real Blackbeard, they could have made something truly incredible. Sadly, they sorta just made him a knockoff of the previous villains in his characterization. And Salazar… the less said, the better 🤣 Thank you for watching!

@doge8825

Жыл бұрын

Jack DiSpahrrro

@MrAlex400

Жыл бұрын

Yak Sbarrrro

@our_comrade

11 ай бұрын

Yackas Parro

@lordbeaverhistory

10 ай бұрын

Salazar had probably the highest potential of all. They could have made so much more about him. His backstory is really good. A former pirate hunter, who made it his life duty to kill pirates after they killed his parents, who fell from the heights of satisfaction and power down to damnation within minutes, who's story isn't about wealth or Power, but simply revenge.

Beckett, despite being not as terrifying visually and even being smaller in stature, was able to put Jones in his place in front of his crew. He's not intimidated by "the devil".

@Senate300

Жыл бұрын

Beckett was the Devil

@ChipeloAndCrew

6 ай бұрын

I really liked him because he was so smart. Because of his power he was able to leverage everyone, and even so high in power he never dismissed any of the ghost/magic stuff pirates talked about, i think that’s what made him stand out is that he accepted/believed them even being so powerful. He the uses those to his advantage, having so much control.

Really apreciate you brought up the fact that the removal of Davy's heart makes him feel less emotions and that's why in the third movie he has More rage, his heart is closer to him

@more-reasons6655

11 ай бұрын

That's the reason he started crying in the third movie. The moment the heart was brought aboard the Dutchman he could feel again and a single tear rolled down from his eye

@fighterck6241

3 ай бұрын

​@more-reasons6655 Yep, and he then immediately stormed to the deck and demanded that it be taken off of his ship.

"My freedom was forfeit long ago" is my favourite line from the series, probably. We are constantly exposed to how consistently miserable Jones's existence is. He finds some comfort or joy or escape from it all in his position; undead, symbol of fear and power, free to terrorise the seas for eternity. In At World's End he has lost even that, now a puppet of people he despises. The man has absolutely nothing. You'd think he'd be begging for death at this point. Jack tells the truth: "I can set your free, mate". He could. But Jones's reply is just gut-wrenching and so illustrative of his character. There would be so many justified responses. "I'll be damned if I let you captain my ship" "I'll have my freedom soon enough" "You don't deserve the Dutchman" "I have known freedom and will again" "Freedom is an illusion, none of us are really free" He could have said anything like this, but he doesn't. Even in the face of death and chaos he simply acknowledges his position. He refutes Jack's offer, not out of spite or pride, but because whatever release death holds has no value to him, and he admits that he lost his freedom so long ago he will never reclaim it. It's simple but so damn good

I think blackbeard was a great villain still, he had that 'Big Jack Horner' syndrome where he just knew he was evil, and was dragging an entire crew with him to help save him knowing they'd most likely all die. It was also great having someone who knew he was such a horrible man juxtaposed with a good hearted missionary aboard his ship

@jakemealey5532

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I don’t think potc 4 is better than any of the trilogy but I think it’s better than many give it credit for. I’ve watched potc 5 once but never finished it because it was so boring but I’ve seen potc 4 and still enjoy it

@steelmaiden643

10 ай бұрын

One is evil for the sake of being evil, and one is good for the sake of being good

In defense of Blackbeard, he is meant to be a man so fearful of death that he would take his own daughter's life in order to extend his own. His daughter wanted Blackbeard to learn to be a good man, but in the end, it wasn't in his nature. A great insight into what his villain was meant to be, we can look at the line "in religion there is light enough to see but darkness enough to blind" what he means here is that religion gives light enough to see morality and to find peace with yourself, but darkness enough to blind yourself to the world you could manipulate around you, If only you threw away your morals. Salazar is... Not very dependable. He's a 2d character with no depth past "I hate pirates" I like to consider the 4th and 5th films side stories, so the original trilogy is Pirates of the Caribbean 1 2 and 3, whereas I consider 5 and 6 to be "The misadventures of Jack Sparrow": 1 and 2

@ethanclark4347

Жыл бұрын

This is a great perspective

@rubbersoul9462

Жыл бұрын

I thought Salazars father was killed by pirates? If not that is my head canon now

@lollybirdy

Жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. Their just side quest jack does when he’s not messing with will and Elizabeth’s lives.

@mobgabriel1767

Жыл бұрын

salazar's movie is basically the first 3 movies mashed together into one so hard that they lost their greatness

@Anders_Lund

Жыл бұрын

I would call the fourth a misadventure but forget the fifth as it breaks with so much stuff from the trilogy

also, I will truly never understand how 'At World's End' has only 44% on Rotten Tomatoes... apparently on account of the fact that it had... a convoluted plot?

@TheSEAempire

Жыл бұрын

It’s really annoying. Like what is wrong with a complex plot? I have some videos debunking Nostalgia Critic and his awful criticisms of the POTC trilogy. Stay tuned…

@loicbosman4739

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSEAempire honestly each character is still following their goals and motivations... There's no inconsistency and the climax is absolute peak cinema

@TheSEAempire

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! They act the way they should, with next to no contradictions, plot holes, or contrivances. The concept of objective discussion is sadly no longer a thing in media discussion. If it were, POTC would be held in higher regard.

@orlandolee4438

Жыл бұрын

​@@loicbosman4739 Yeah the final battle was epic!

@trequor

Жыл бұрын

​@@Beowolf-jy5rcThis is how the 2nd movie started too.

Barbossa is honestly one of my favourite characters of all time, and one of the few characters that survived the entire movie series while remaining true to his own core. Whatever can be said about PotC 4 and 5, Barbossa was a high light of both and was given a worthy departure imo. That said, Davy Jones and Beckett are both phenomenal characters in their own right. The original PotC trilogy really knew how to handle its character writing.

@trequor

Жыл бұрын

Barbossa is the quintessential example of Lawful Evil in my opinion. He has no problem with rape, murder or mutiny, nor with tricking people... but the second his honour is in question he must defend it. He does not lie. He should have stayed dead. The Barbossa of the sequels exists just to fill the pirate quota since they failed to introduce any other pirate characters

@chriswilliams9069

Жыл бұрын

Barbossa is my favorite character in the entire series. Arguably he is the best “pirate”.

I really enjoyed Beckett as a villain. I think he's a great example of how if you've got a "chaotic good" protagonist (such as Jack Sparrow) it can be interesting to pit them against a "lawful evil" antagonist.

What I like so much about becket is that he always delivers on his promises that he makes with the main characters and doesn’t really lie. This makes him just always seem in control

@trequor

Жыл бұрын

Same reason Barbossa is awesome, though he is less intelligent and much less powerful than Becket

In all fairness _Dead Men Tell No Tales_ provides a really solid reason for Salazar hating pirates - his father and grandfather were both murdered by pirates.

@breezyhillproductions349

11 ай бұрын

Yep. Came here to say that.

@joshruiz809

11 күн бұрын

He must not watched the movie. He literally says the reason for it 😂

Kinda sad that Norrington was never mentioned, I feel like was pretty involved and kinda followed Barbossa’s story of being a villain, goes through struggles and eventually get redeemed

@trequor

Жыл бұрын

Norrington isnt a true villain, just a situational antagonist

@skywalker2676

Жыл бұрын

@@trequornorrington was doin the right thing for the wrong reason. He’s just a foil to Jack and will because Jack made him lose his life. 2 Will took his girl so there’s that. But all themn have that rivalry because all 3 love Elizabeth

@more-reasons6655

11 ай бұрын

Norrington was an antagonist, not a villain. His hatred of pirates put him at odds with Jack and his love for Elizabeth put him at odds with Will He was primarily doing his job throughout the first movie and sought to redeem that honour in the second and third. He did the right thing by the end of two out of three films which shows he wasn't a villain

@skywalker2676

11 ай бұрын

@@more-reasons6655 his odds with Jack was more so jack outsmarted him and bested him multiple times along and the fact he could never insult him. Will is more so will helped Jack from being free and will took his girl 😆

@ssjjshawn

10 ай бұрын

​@@skywalker2676...What? Did you watch the second movie? Or the First? The reason he hates Jack and Will so much is he lost his comfortable life in allowing them A 1 day headstart. And even then Jack only espaces him thanks to a Hurricane at first, but still runs into Norrington. Even then Norrington wins the second movie by taking Davy Jone's heart to Beckett. Norrington never lost to Jack, at best being present when he escaped, and let Elizabeth go to Will. He lost to Beckett and Jones, who destroyed his life and took it respectively. There's a reason Jack respected and even feared him as we see in Dead Man's Chest

Davy Jones is one of the best villians in cinema history, not just in his franchise. Aside from being a fantastic villian, he's also one of the most tragic characters and his story is extremely intriguing.

The insane Barbosa, the heartless Jones, the miliputive Becket, The brutal Blackbeard, and the vengeful Salazar.

@celestemonique1466

5 ай бұрын

Manipulative*

If I’m not mistaken, Salazar took up his father’s cause as a pirate hunter when he was killed by pirates. I would say revenge is Salazar’s motivation, but it’s not highlighted very well in the movie.

I absolutely love seeing Beckett as a foil to Elizabeth, because it also respects how much she is into freedom and piracy rather than just loving Will (and why I don’t at all like the ending of At World’s End implying Elizabeth just. Stayed on land raising a kid.)

I think Black Beard's potential was terribly wasted. He was allegedly terrifying in real life, not only because of his physical stature and lighting his beard on fire, but he was also extremely smart and strategic. I think a trilogy could be written with him as the main villain

Excellent work. That mother-in-law bit was enough to keep me hooked to the intro.

@TheSEAempire

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I saw the first movie so many times and waited to get the special edition dvd at midnight. Needless to say, I was obsessed! They did a fantastic job putting the ride on film. When 2 and 3 came out, I saw them a couple times but found them confusing. As an adult I realize how brilliant they truly are

@eemelihollo7050

Жыл бұрын

So well said. When you can follow the plot of 2 & 3 they are IMO one of the best movies ever

Honestly, I could watch your videos on Pirates of the Caribbean for hours. It’s giving me the urge to rewatch all of these films again

The first three movies are so nostalgic to me. As a kid, I always were afraid of Barbossa and Davy Jones because I didn’t understand their characters then. Now looking back, I gotta say, that all the antagonists in the first three movies were just incredible. I just love these films because there aren’t really any pirates movies out there with fictional adjustments like PotC.

Davy Jones was the original Thanos Beckett was the upgrade of the Trade Federation

@TheSEAempire

Жыл бұрын

Hell yeah man 😎

@onemoreminute0543

Жыл бұрын

@@Beowolf-jy5rc Agreed. His motivation for his bitterness and cruey is more personal.

@ColinWren119

5 ай бұрын

The comparison of Beckett and the trade federation couldn’t be better

The Jack Sparrow novels and the “Price of Freedom” by A.C. Crispin are good material that expands a little bit more on all three villains. They’re a good read and excellent when it comes to writing swashbuckling adventures.

@TheSEAempire

Жыл бұрын

Funny enough I have some videos planned that tie into those books!

The original trilogy are the best villains, but I defend Black Beard as also being great

Blackbeard was a missed opportunity about a Zombie Blackbeard using voodoo magic trying to prolong his life, basically the Pirate LeChuck from Monkey Island. Salazar on paper has a lot that works being a villain from Jack's past out for revenge but the script problems take away from what works

After watching this video about the first three villains I noticed that there something that makes each one attracted besides their story. Barbossa was a pirate that we always imagine pirates to be. Davy Jones was supernatural legends that we all heard of. And Beckett, was a man that represents the reality that we face.

This was a really great analysis, I love the idea that the villains parallel the 3 main heroes, or conversely, that the villains are what the heroes could have become if they were just a little bit more bitter, twisted or self centered. Amazing work!

Blackbeard was a missed opportunity, they used absolutely nothing about his real life back story, for instance he was killed and beheaded by the British Navy, the movie has him as a pirate/magician with a zombie crew, a tweak of the story could have him resurrected as a zombie and he wants the fountain of youth to restore him to humanity.

@TheSEAempire

Жыл бұрын

I actually really like that idea… god if only we got that instead 😂

@martinh1309

Жыл бұрын

the magic Queen Annes Revenge and the Zombies was so overdone in my opinion, I think they really could have done something with Blackbeard, as you say, you could incorporate actual history and dramatize it, instead we got a much worse holy grail story than something like Indy gave us. Overall the 4th film is watchable and not a bad movie but it doesn't compare with the first 3

@merafirewing6591

3 ай бұрын

​@@TheSEAempire damn, Blackbeard's potential could've landed him as becoming the fourth great villain of PotC.

It’s crazy how your channel is literally my interests, and this is some good stuff 😎

@TheSEAempire

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I do believe that Ian McShane and Javier Bardem gave good performances and had killer designs; the problem was that the writing for their characters wasn't very good. Unpopular opinion: I liked Blackbeard's conflict with missionary Philip Swift. Yes, he's a one-note character, but his faith and bravery despite his absence of actual combat skills contrasts nicely to Blackbeard's powers, pure villainy and cruelty; and how Blackbeard was willing to sacrifice his daughter to save his own skin while Philip, in the end, didn't ask the mermaid Syrena to save his own life, but simply asked for her forgiveness for her suffering that he was indirectly responsible for. Salazar's backstory was cut short in the film, but the novelization went deeper into his past, showing that not only did his grandfather die at the hands of pirates, but his father was an admiral who had taken bribes from pirates and sent to prison while Salazar's mother was unfairly punished for her husband's crimes and sent to a workhouse where she died. When his father was released, Salazar killed him for revenge, which kickstarted his all-consuming hatred for piracy. The film's poor writing skipped out on this, which would've made for a much more interesting antagonist, even in a film that totally broke established canon and all sense of chronology (Jack, Barbossa, and Gibbs haven't aged a day while Will and Elizabeth's son Henry has grown into a legal adult).

@puff7306

11 ай бұрын

i feel like if you know that about salazar than he is a lot more interesting as a character but because the movie didn’t get too much into it we don’t have a lot to care for sorry

Great video and analysis :) I also have the feeling Mercer is a kind of reflection of what Norrington would have become, if he did not listen his heart and sense of honor.

@TheSEAempire

Жыл бұрын

Good point! Thanks for watching!

I admit that I never watched these movies in years, but the villains, minus the ones after the original trilogy, hold up surprisingly well. I agree that Beckett is a good villain to wrap up the OG trilogy. Pirates in these movies represent adventure and freedom. What would challenge that? A cruel authority figure who wants to control the open seas, and is willing to bend the laws of nature to make that goal a reality. Plus, making him a foil to Elizabeth is also clever, since it's unexpected in a good way.

I think Salazar had some cool ideas but they either weren’t played on or were terribly executed 1. He hates pirates (why?) he needed more motivation here 2. His rivalry with Jack sparrow needed to be expanded upon, showing him being outsmarted by Jack once was cool but I feel like it should have been a rivalry that went on for years 3. The sea curse, they could have played with the idea of a pirate hunter being stuck with something that is usually associated with pirates but did nothing on this front

Just watched all the POTC films a couple of days ago, this video popping up in my recommended is clearly a gift from Calypso

@adrianfernandez4322

3 ай бұрын

Same here dude , my fav is the third one

I think Salazar hates pirates because of their free and savage nature. They probably stolen, killed or whatever from his country, so he sat out of eliminate them all so he and others can be free without pirates. He hates Jack because he taunted him during his victory and defeated him during battle because Salazar fought pirates that wasn't Jack. Thats my opinion tho.

I find the first three Pirates of the Caribbean films the most underrated in the series. I haven’t watched the last two, and I have no opinion on them. And I agree that the villains are satisfying.

@trequor

Жыл бұрын

Wat. I dont think you know what the word "underrated" means

@prehistorichero2755

Жыл бұрын

@@trequor Don’t you have to be a smarta** somewhere else?

I loved this breakdown. Very well articulated and concise! I really need to rewatch these movies again. I feel like there’s so much someone could learn about effective storytelling by paying close attention to them. Very much excited by a more concentrated look at Elizabeth!

Technically, that was the plan since the beginning. To get Will on the Ship so that he could steal the key, then run with it as far away from Jones as possible and, hopefully, spare Jack by giving it to him when he found the chest. Sure, this plan's pretty bad but that's just a testament to how much Davy Jones dominates the sea. Everything else is perfect. BlackBeard and Salazar could've to be better tbh.

Really appreciate your appreciation of Elizabeth as complex and I look forward to your video on her!

@TheSEAempire

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad you liked it, and I can’t wait to make that video!

Good video, but wouldn't Angelica be considered the main foil for Jack in "On Stranger Tides?" I'd argue she was the main antagonist in the film. Blackbeard felt more of a driving point for her and an obsticle for Barbossa.

@orlandolee4438

Жыл бұрын

I absolutely adored Jack and Angelica's chemistry in the film and I was sad that their relationship didn't work out! It had so much potential aaaaaa!😭

@captaindemobeard9560

Жыл бұрын

@@orlandolee4438 Aye, perhaps she'll appear again in Sea o' Thieves, followin' the post credit scene from the end o' the film.

@orlandolee4438

Жыл бұрын

@@captaindemobeard9560 Sea 'o thieves?

My man great videos I’m glad ur talking about my favorite movie and u do a good job analyzing them

@TheSEAempire

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

Really cool description of Jones. Clap clap to you sir.

Great video! This has me wanting to revisit the POTC Trilogy!

@TheSEAempire

Жыл бұрын

Hell yeah man 😎

I can’t believe I’m about to defend On Stranger Tides, but here goes. I’d argue that Blackbeard is a foil to Barbossa - where Barbossa had immortality but little remaining humanity, ultimately sacrificing the former for the latter, blackbeard is the reverse, willing to sacrifice his daughter for his own longevity. Barbossa sets aside his personal goals to secure a future for pirates, but Blackbeard is ready to sacrifice the future, in the form of his daughter, simply to serve himself. If Barbossa is depression, Jones is heartbreak and Beckett is control, Blackbeard is fear (largely, of death)

The retrospect into Black Pearl makes Barbossa's redemption in Salazar's Revenge more poignant. He found the one thing that was more important to him than momentarily pleasure - his legacy. Blackbeard and Salazar were meant to be foils for Barbossa, but they both fall flat because they only relate to a single aspect of his character.

Cutler Beckett isn't as cool as Hector Barbossa or Davy Jones but he's one of the best depictions of a psychopath I've ever seen in fiction. There is NO empathy in this man. None at all. Murdering children? Childs play, dark joke very much intended. Beckett couldn't care less if he tried. Barbossa and Jones both have some degree of empathy but Beckett is just pure evil. He's almost robotic in some ways and people might think that's a flaw but I think it was intentional. Also I love Beckett's death because not only is it a visual spectacle but it showed that he has no idea how to handle his own emotions. He was so used to going through life with a cold, logical mindset devoid of any emotional investment that when he finally felt an intense emotion, specifically fear, in his final moments, he just froze. That's a pretty accurate depiction of how somebody who has shunned all emotion for many years would react if they're suddenly feeling something intense. They just don't know how to process it.

Awesome video!

@TheSEAempire

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

My favorite moment from any movie ever is cutler becketts death, the music with his distraught look of realizing he’s lost, is just amazing

Thumbnail does everything right.

@TheSEAempire

4 ай бұрын

Thanks very much! Good to see you here, I’ve been a fan for a long time!

@drwily

4 ай бұрын

@@TheSEAempire really?! this is a crazy coincidence than.

@TheSEAempire

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I found you from your Zelda theories years back

It’s says pirates killed Salazar’s dad in dead men tell no tales

Davy Jones and Barbossa in common ten years bound to curse

You could consider Salazar as bouncing off of Barbossa. Barbossa used piracy to gain honor and riches; Salazar hated piracy because he had honor and riches, and then lost it all to a pirate. You can see this in their conversations with one another. Especially when Salazar asks Barbossa what he knows about honor. He’s not really a direct foil to anybody, but is similar to Barbossa.

ALL HAIL THE PIRATE LORD OF THE SEA!!! Really loving the new content

@TheSEAempire

Жыл бұрын

Thank you sir!

Having watched On Stranger Tides standalone a few days back to satiate a mermaid fixation, I really enjoyed Blackbeard. I just liked seeing him be evil, liked seeing how willing he was to throw away people's lives and then act like he wouldn't (when he would), as far as to throwing away his own daughter's life. Add that with his fear of death, it adds some intrigue because there's something that makes him relatable and you can find some sympathy in, especially given how a lot of people fear death, but you can still find his actions be deplorable despite finding it relatable simply because what he does is horrible. While I personally wouldn't list him as a "top ten greatest villain of all time", watching the film without context of the first three, and also watching the other characters in that film, he does kind of stand out and has his presence known for sure (though I would say Barbossa sticks out far more and I love his character to bits). Blackbeard's pretty effective as a villain.

Loved the writing of this video!

@TheSEAempire

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

I think that Beckett represents civilisation plus rationalism in a more supernatural, more irrational and free world of Pirates' Carribbean. He kinda represents a new era that's coming; when immaterial becomes... immaterial.

Why is so hard for most of the people in the world to realise of the greatness and beautiness of the Pirates of the Caribbean?

Becket is the complete opposite of everything Jack stands for. Freedom Vs Control. His perfect foil. It’s amazing.

Great video

There was a book written that explained why Salazar hated pirates: His father was an Admiral and also a Pirate Hunter, but one day the authorities discovered that pirates had given him gold and other valuables as bribery to continue sailing freely. This angered Armando because his Grandfather had been killed by pirates some years prior. His father was arrested for treason, and his mother was also sent away to labor at a workhouse and died sometime later. A year later he was released from prison, and when he returned home, Armando mercilessly killed him. This may or may not have been canon to the film, but I wish they had added it in.

I always rewatch the first 3 movies on the days they first released in Theaters like it was their birthday.

When I was watching this video, I completely forgot that I was steeping my tea, that's how enthralling it was.

Tell you that I’ve played too much Sea of Thieves without telling you I’ve played too much. Not even a min in and I hear Sea of Thieves Fog sounds! That threw me through a loop! Quite appropriate for the content though!

i really hope one day they stay true to the film and bring back davy jones as hinted at in the 5th movie

I’ve seen the trilogy almost 30 times since the pandemic started. They’re far and away my favorite movies of all time. I think I have seen the 4th and 5th movies maybe once in that same time period

I love the fact that you point out that Will was tested in a similar fashion to Davy Jones and that, unlike Jones, he never considered betrying Elizabeth when he believed she had kissed Jack. He even offered to help her get Jack back when he thought she was in love with him. Jones otoh, had Calypso imprisoned indefinitely. And then he replaces him as captain of TFD.

At 1:25 I think you meant to say “antagonist”. Besides that, really insightful video 👏🏼

@TheSEAempire

11 ай бұрын

Yeah I goofed up 😅 thanks for watching!

Based video man

The one problem I find is with Salazar, he does have a reason to hate pirates and the reason that it makes it personal to him is one line that could definately which is, "Pirates killed my father and his father before him." That line shows why he hates pirates so much, they basically killeds his family

@TheSEAempire

7 ай бұрын

Funny enough I just recently did a video breaking down DMTNT, and I do address that part of my video as somewhat of an ammendment to my criticism, but I also added onto the original point. Truth be told I don’t entirely agree with what I said here about Salazar, though I still think he’s a poor character.

@merafirewing6591

3 ай бұрын

​@@TheSEAempire it's a shame that that character never live up to his true potential of being very compelling as a villain.

I think all these characters work for the fact like (minor spoilers for Puss in Boots: The Last Wish), way before that movie, At World’s End was able to have all 3 notable villain archetypes in the same film, and make them work tremendously. Like Goldilocks, Barbossa was definitely evil in the first film, but over time became a redeemed anti-villain that helps the heroes against a much bigger threat. Like Death, Davy Jones was a terrifying, sadistic force of nature that actually had some standards and other redeeming qualities. And last but not least, like Jack Horner, Beckett was just an irredeemable psychopath that served as the true threat to all the characters. At least that’s what I think. Bottom line, these movies and their villains are amazing.

What I love about PIrates is the whole hidden history between Jack, lord Beckett why the pearl is black and the deal jack made with Jones… basiclly in jacks earlier days. He was contracted by Beckett to deliver cargo… when Jack found out the cargo.. was slaves. He freed them instead. “People aren’t cargo mate.” Beckett swore revenge and tracked the pearl down. And set fire to it.. blackening it and sinking. Then jack made the deal.. jacks always been a moral man. And the fact he COULDNT let will, his best friend die…if he could save him

This video is great and ngl yeah Salazar wasn’t the greatest villain backstory and didint hit as hard to understanding his reasons like they could’ve made the pirate Hunter backstory work if there was more of an explanation why he hates pirates instead of just following his fathers footsteps ngl Ik this isint part of the topic but in a way Salazar wasn’t the last villain topically he is in the movies but the story of the franchise continues in sea of thieves pretty much confused how Davy Johnes came back but I liked the detail where becket was a ghost but ngl the actual truly new villains in this story would be the gold hoarder the masked stranger and Duke idk if you know about the game lol so you might be confused but this was a great video man keep it up

u could argue that Calypso is the main villain

@trequor

Жыл бұрын

Nah. Calypso is a force of nature, not a villain

great video... you sound like Alex Baldwin

Someone pointed out the Pearl already sunk by Beckett but was restored thanks to Jack's deal with Jones. Jack used to be a smuggler for Beckett

The issue with Blackbeard is that it’s hard to understand why his crew even follows him. Barbossa and crew were bound by the curse, Davy Jones had unbreakable contracts, and Beckett promised power and security. But Blackbeard gave no motivation for anybody to follow him, and he clearly didn’t care about anybody’s wellbeing. They tried to explain this by having the crew unaware of what they’re getting into, but it just made Blackbeard’s threat feel a bit shallow.

Salazar did say his father, grandfather, and great grandfather where killed by pirates

Will was just lucky that the Dutchman was sailing for Isla Cruces right after the Kraken's attack. Despite learning where the key was and obtaining it, he never learned where the CHEST was buried, and although no one else knew where it was, Will didn't seem really inclined to search for it either. He and his father both just wanted him to "get yourself to land and stay there". He seemed to regard obtaining the key as the be all and end all of his quest to free his father. It was also pretty fortuitous for Will that during the voyage to Isla Cruces he stowed away on, the Dutchman's crew never employed the normal method of submersing it for ocean travel. All this is to say, as someone who went through the worst heartbreak of my life (at the time) when Dead Man's Chest was in theaters and can thus sympathize with him, I've always loved Davy Jones as a character, and he was mostly defeated by Will's good luck. I quite like your evaluation of Beckett. He wasn't a "greedy" villain in the usual sense of the word. He wanted to rid the seas of pirates because of their undisciplined and insouciant lifestyle. Order isn't always the best outcome, but despite both the movie and real life versions of pirates not being the evil antagonists after all, wishing to impose order on a world made disorderly by people isn't a selfish goal at all.

With salazar i remember, his father and grandfather being killed by pirates, hence his hatered towards them

Unfortunately for me, I’m actually a really big fan of Salazar, and I can’t really disagree. But I would like to make a minor correction in regard to why he was a pirate hunter. He did state a reason, though it wasn’t a really deep reason, it was still a reason that made enough sense. He stated that pirates had killed his father and his father before that. Which to me is like “yeah, alright that makes sense.”

Can’t not subscribe to someone who mentions the gaping plot hole about Jack’s compass. Amazing video too btw

@TheSEAempire

11 ай бұрын

Aye thanks! XD

About Davy Jones, let’s not forget that he was the only antagonist of the original trilogy that Jack GENUINELY FEARED. He could joke and tease with Barbossa and Beckett, but Jones was the least tolerant of his antics and served as a shackle to the past for him because of their deal. Both Jones and Beckett would prefer to be under their own forms of control, but Jack is probably the most prominent pirate to oppose the both of them; thus it made thematic sense for the two of them to team up, as unwilling as it was on Jones’s behalf.

Bill Nighy is one of my favourite actors! He absolutelo rocked it in the 2nd and 3rd movie, he and johnny depp perfected the movie.

Salazar had a hatred for pirates for killing his father and grandfather. He explains that in the jack the sparrow flashback

The history of Beckett, Jack and Jones is honestly the best parr of this series Minus Salazar, Jack worked for the East India Trading Company (VOC) on his ship the wicked wench. Beckett ordered Jack to transport valuable cargo from Africa ... Slaves. Jack lets the slaves go supposedly the people who live with callypso who was also on that cargo. Beckett burns the letter P on Jack's arm marking him as a pirate and burns the Wicked Wench with Jack supposedly on it. Jack then gets a visit from Davy Jones, which is in character since Jones targets the dead or dying at sea. They make a deal where he raises the Wench and Jack back but in 13 years Jack would spend a year on the Dutchman for every freed slave (100). The Wench is raised fixed with a new curse of being tbe fastest ship in the world. The burns however were still present. Jack changes the sheets and paints it Black and thus renames it the Black Pearl

Davy Jones... the man that can never be bounded nor ever chained... it proves it by dead man tells no tale. Also, beckett died for he tried to control Davy Jones and also the dutchman. (of course, will turner is the new davy jones but still beckett deserved his death)

I'm a bit late to the party, but listening to you talk about Davy Jones and Calypso made me realise: Why the hell did Davy Jones need to go on land to be with his love, when his love was literally the goddess of the sea? I should probably check up on the origin tale (if there is one) but at least in the movies she isn't bound to a body until after she didn't show up "that one day on land".

I would argue that Barbossa was more of a foil for Elizabeth than Jack, while Beckett was more of a foil for Jack than Elizabeth. Barbossa is clearly an educated man, going off of his ability to confuse Elizabeth (who, as the governor's daughter, must have had at least some education) with his verbosity ("I'm disinclined to acquiesce to your request. Means no."). Barbossa, despite being an educated man, still turns to piracy, likely because he just enjoys it. Elizabeth does the same. She, an educated woman, turns to piracy at first to save Will and later just because she likes it. Her story is the same, just a few chapters behind. As for Jack and Beckett, they're both strategic geniuses. Jack repeatedly outplans and is one step ahead of everyone, except Beckett. Beckett is also always one step ahead of everyone, except Jack. Beckett is who Jack would have been if Jack were a law-abiding man, and Jack is who Beckett would have been if Beckett were willing to break the rules.

I like how the trilogy villains had so much to say, but then has less to say about Blackbeard and Salazar, it shows how much Disney dun-goofed after the third movie

Salazar’s grandfather and father were also pirate hunters who were killed by pirates.

Beckett is my second favorite character, behind Barbosaa.

Regarding the 3rd movie, theres probably a really interesting conversation to be had about convolution vs complexity Another criticism Ive heard is some scenes dragged, but there is nothing wrong with some scenes with room to breathe. To paraphrase another villain, if everything is action, nothing is The Calypso subplot should have been better written and implemented though

Idk why they didnt make the prequels instead of the 4th and 5th movie... how jack lost the black pearl and how davy jones brang it back, how callypso was captured and how barbosa overthrew jack... its heartbreaking

I wish in the last movie they were all with all curses and everything against eachother or something like that

POTC trilogy is top tier. Also Beckett being the 'big bad' was a fitting choice...you don't need to be a literal monster (like Barbossa or Jones) to be the villain. He is so cold and manipulating, controlling Jones to do his bidding. So confident he could get out of any situation by making a deal.

So disappointing they wasted Anton Chigur like that ,great vid