The problem isn't technology per se, it's the contents, especially on social media. Jonathan Haidt has shown convincingly that excessive use of social media often leads to mental health problems like addiction, depression, gender dysphoria and eating disorders.

@amia7999

Ай бұрын

s 7 Add a comment… @Funaru 5 minutes ago (edited) The problem isn't technology per se, it's the contents, especially on social media. Jonathan Haidt has shown convincingly that excessive use of social media often leads to mental health problems like addiction, depression, gender dysphoria and eating disorders. 3 @amia7999 0 seconds ago Totally agree. But there is a case for parents and guardians giving their kids a balance, showing them how to use SM, having discussions about teen topics etc. It's the over-use. And lack of adult input, they are the ones who can show that the internet world can be simply 'turned off' and outside there is a real world!

@inthegutterstaringathestars

Ай бұрын

Were this true then you could say that about any media form throughout history.

@saffyjanes8875

Ай бұрын

@@inthegutterstaringathestars yes. And it did. Each new tech has an impact on people. If you can’t see that then I’m sorry to inform you that you are wildly unaware of your experience of life and surroundings.

@inthegutterstaringathestars

Ай бұрын

@@saffyjanes8875 So your first response is to agree with my comment. Then insult my "experience of life and surroundings." which you could have absolutely no supporting evidence unless you are stalking me. Interesting tactic. Excessive use of anything generally leads to negative outcome not just content or technology. It is why addictive behaviour is considered a poor choice. So it is not the content that is THE problem, is it? It is addictive human behaviour.

@johnl5316

29 күн бұрын

@@inthegutterstaringathestars Not really. There was not the immediate availability to comment and see negative comments on the part of girls toward girls. Girls' brains cannot cope with the constant appraisals.

I disagree. People have always formed communities with the people around them. Neighbours, friends etc... This was the community. Community has now been detached from the people around you. It's online. And causes frictions and dificulties with the people around you. Some, just don't care about them. Their bizarre or problematic opinions are re-enforced from their online groups. They lose connection to who lives next door. You end up with problems between neighbours etc...

Off the mark on this one. There's not just "some kind of coincidence" of smartphones/social media and mental health issues, there are studies that show clear evidence of causation. It's not right to compare it to previous technological/moral panics.

@inthegutterstaringathestars

Ай бұрын

The studies I have found show the causative relationship is linked to addictive behaviour rather than actual smartphone/social media usage, suggesting that it may be linked more to personal factors such as addictive personality and chronic usage patterns rather than the technology. This would make it a fair comparison to previous panics because anybody who uses any technology addictively is, in general, going to suffer adverse effects.

@nj-ns4sb

Ай бұрын

​@@inthegutterstaringathestarsYes, but if the product in question (social media) is explicitly designed to be addictive you can't really lay all the blame at the feet of the person who is susceptible to addiction.

@inthegutterstaringathestars

Ай бұрын

@@nj-ns4sb True. That is a pitfall my comments did fall into. I am not trying to blame everything on one cause. There is enough blame to go around. However, there are plenty of people commenting as though agency does not exist. That people can be disciplined enough to overcome addictive behaviour, which is equally reductionist. We are both right. Producers bear responsibility for building an addictive product and consumers bear responsibility for their choices.

@nj-ns4sb

29 күн бұрын

@@inthegutterstaringathestars Quite right, everything in balance - well said.

@treelee8485

21 күн бұрын

@@inthegutterstaringathestars we are collectively helpless in the face of hi-tech temptation, whether it be the smartphone or ultra processed foods; the necessary checks and balances were never implemented though forseen by many - because it suits the corporate greed machine which pushes it

"My new book..." (Quickly closes video.)

My job is driving and 95% of the time when I look at a woman walking on the street, they’re looking at their phone. That doesn’t mean I’m extremely lucky and I caught them exactly when they chose to look at their phones, it means they’re looking at their phone non stop while they walk…and on foot I’ve had multiple people walk directly into me because they’re looking at their phones, it’s a problem.

3 quick points: 1. Children and young teens do not have a lot of agency. 2. And advertising/ billboards do influence, otherwise why would advertisers spend billions every year creating that stuff. 3. You under estimate the power of seeing. We see before we have verbal language. As a visual arts scholar, I feel you underestimate the power of visual language. Practices of Looking: An Introduction to Visual Culture Book by Lisa Cartwright and Marita Sturken Ways of Seeing Book by John Berger

@Strelnikov10

Ай бұрын

Well done

@inthegutterstaringathestars

Ай бұрын

You are right. Lots of things have "influence" but this is different from a causal relationship. It is not a one to one relationship that advertising will cause people to buy things. People are still able to exercise their willpower over whether they will make a purchase or not. You are overestimating "influence" as much as the Spiked crew are underestimating it. Children and young teens have as much agency as adults, the difference they do not have a lot of discipline to deal with their satiety.

@nikimagelakis9085

Ай бұрын

@@inthegutterstaringathestars How old are you? You may benefit from reading a book or 2. “It doesn’t matter how smart teens are or how well they scored on the SAT or ACT. Good judgment isn’t something they can excel in, at least not yet. The rational part of a teen’s brain isn’t fully developed and won’t be until age 25 or so. In fact, recent research has found that adult and teen brains work differently. Adults think with the prefrontal cortex, the brain’s rational part. This is the part of the brain that responds to situations with good judgment and an awareness of long-term consequences. Teens process information with the amygdala. This is the emotional part. “

@nikimagelakis9085

Ай бұрын

@@inthegutterstaringathestars I disagree because I was an Advertising Photographer. We studied the Advertising Agencies of the Fifties when TV and Magazine first began creating Adds. Psychologists were brought in, and helped The Graphic Artists develop add campaigns and images that would lure people into buying their product. Subliminal messaging is a thing. That’s why they banned cigarette adds.

@user-xu5vl5th9n

29 күн бұрын

If parents are worried about the pernicious effects of social media on kids, then don't smartphones to children. How hard is that? Worried about visual manipulation and semiotics, give them a dumb retro phone like a Nokia 3310. The sort that the old technophobes prefer because they can use them.... to make phone calls. Imagine being worried about the effects of alcohol on children then giving kids booze.

The stats are out there regarding use of SM and MH..ive no idea why this woman says otherwise..selling a book perhaps?

@PKWeaver74

28 күн бұрын

Where?

(In the US) We have warnings on junk food and we still have fat parents and children. Warnings over tobacco, alcohol and various drugs don't seem to have worked either. Do you really think they'll work on phones? How about on college applications? We could use them there.

People are trained from birth to hand over agency to someone else, so it's little wonder that nearly everyone feels powerless in the face of something addictive. The whole education system is about training children to be obedient (even eager) cogs in the machine, and females in particular tend to look for and comply with social cues. The social and cultural changes required to avoid demographic implosion are beyond the powers, and even beyond the comprehension, of governments and political elites. This is one of Iain Banks's Outside Context Problems.

Another glaring Spiked blind spot (alongside smoking and junk food)

@saffyjanes8875

Ай бұрын

They aren’t a healthy looking bunch themselves!

The people who think they are uneffected by advertising are the ones who are most effected by it.

@DieFlabbergast

Ай бұрын

* affected (Obviously, some people were completely unaffected by education.)

@saffyjanes8875

Ай бұрын

@@DieFlabbergast pedantic tit.

You can say the same about obesity and every systemic issue. "Adults can just abstain. They can control their children.". Well yes, in the micro sphere we can and should act responsibly. But the environment is a huge variable. If food was expensive and unhealthy food extremely expensive obesity would be solved (and a few people would need to be fed or would starve). Just eat better is reasonable advice to a friend, but its better to advise changing habits around food, and even that is far cry from "solving" our fat-promoting environment. Social media is linked with some "society's ills", not by correlation alone. There's causal mechanism and clear dose dependency.

IT DEPE nTS ON THE KIND OF PERSONALITY, TAKE THE INSTANT O F PARENTS TO LEAVE SMALL KIDS IN WARM CARS,, AFTER THE FIRST CASE INSTEAD OF DECLINE IT IS ESCALATING TO A EPIDEMIC. THATS IS BUT ONE - NO YOU WRONG PEOPLE IS A HERD INSTIC KIND AND WILL FOLLOW ,GOOD OR BAD. WHATEVER YOU SAY - THATS THE THRUTH OF IT. AND IT BETTER STOP NOW BEFORE IT GET OUT OF CONTROL!!

We are getting to know too much, perhaps.......

Technology is the problem. You can talk all day about agency etc. but human nature remains. Just like obesity, there will be a lot of people who manage to not eat loads of junk, but if the junk is ever present and being shoved into people's faces, loads of people will definitely succumb. Expecting human nature to be malleable is what gave us lovely things like communism! 😅

@inthegutterstaringathestars

Ай бұрын

You just contradicted your own point. First you say technology is the point then contradict this by say "that human nature remains". So your actual argument is that human nature is the problem NOT technology.

@hooligan9794

Ай бұрын

@inthegutterstaringathestars I had thought it obvious that my point was: Human nature is a constant and can't be changed Technology is exploiting human nature. Technology can be changed, controlled etc. You took from that: Human nature is the problem, and that's what needs to change?

@stevebird9510

Ай бұрын

​@@inthegutterstaringathestarsNice Word Salad....

@inthegutterstaringathestars

Ай бұрын

@@hooligan9794 Except your first point was to blame technology as THE problem. Then changed to human nature. Even if technology exploits human nature. Human nature is THE problem. I was simply pointing out that what you wrote did not reflect what you now claim is THE problem

@inthegutterstaringathestars

Ай бұрын

​@@stevebird9510 In what way is it a "Word Salad"? The poster initially claims: 1. Technology is THE problem. 2. then changes it to Human Nature is THE problem. Which is a contradiction.

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It is negligent to let young children online. Silly Spiked.

Disagree. Our epoch demonstrates time and again how human invention backed by corporate greed creates irresistable temptation to squander our own health and that of the planet. We (collectively) are helpless to control our impulses. We are helpless consumers in the face of fashion led goods of all kinds. We naturally take advantage of travel opportunities whether car to nip down to the shops or or plane to visit Costa del Sol. We all develop health problems due to the abundance of sugar & fat rich ultra processed foodstuffs. We are all developing square eyes and stiff necks from staring too much at screens - it used to be television but a screen in the pocket is unbeatable. Now, we rightly fear who or how to put controls on these things - countless more lives will be lost while we argue about how to do it. How to end this ? dismantle the pyramid of temptation - oligarchs, corporations, captured government, media and advertising, and ... us . We are part of that pyramid but it's all too say 'exercise self control'. We need checks and balances and we need honest right-on agents to promote and implement them.

The same can be said about guns. Guns are not the problem

@inthegutterstaringathestars

Ай бұрын

You are rught. Guns are not the problem. No gun has ever killed anyone of its own volition. Guns are a tool that humans use to end other humans. If they do not have access to guns, humans will just use a different tool.

Enjoy watching this channel, but sorry, you are way off on this. Technology is the problem. As technology takes over health, we are getting sicker, as technology takes over schools, kids are getting dumber, as technology takes over the home we all live in separate rooms and the family is fractured. Everywhere I go people are walking along like morons looking at their phones. Kids at the bus stop in the morning stand like robots looking at their phones. MP’s in the commons are sat looking at their phones. Smartphones are making children weak, physically and mentally.

Wow she is wrong.

@inthegutterstaringathestars

Ай бұрын

She is wrong that people have agency and can avoid adverse mental health issues through being disciplined and not doing anything (including social media use) addictively?