VOTE LEAVE! LET'S GAIN OUR DEMOCRACY BACK! RULE BRITANNIA!!!!!!!!

@MilitantOldLady

8 жыл бұрын

Shut up, the video hasn't been uploaded long enough for you to have even watched it.

@vamphudds

8 жыл бұрын

Only been watching 20 minutes. Nick Clegg is a liar. This is the Pre video ending comments section right?

The trade off isn't worth it once you become educated on the EU. I'm voting Leave.

@newcjon

8 жыл бұрын

Good man/woman!

@rolandsj8880

8 жыл бұрын

i hope you leave! continental EU does not need you. You need Single EU Market though.

@nils9208

8 жыл бұрын

You really don't understand economics do you?

@rolandsj8880

8 жыл бұрын

nils glans he does not understand much , looks like that's true.

@shanelevene4864

8 жыл бұрын

No I don't, but neither do economists. The difference is I don't pretend to. X

Nick Clegg doesn't understand what the referendum is all about. Gisela Stuart does: "My view of the EU has always been (not that I am hostile to foreigners) but I am in favour of democracy. I think they are building an empire and want us to be part of that empire, and I don't want that." (Tony Benn)

@gix10000

8 жыл бұрын

@himnextdoor Have you got a spare tin foil hat?

The way camera focused on the exit sign during Stuart's speech was a nice touch.

@qwertywtflol

8 жыл бұрын

I'm glad the important points got across to the viewer.

@Pieh0

8 жыл бұрын

+qwertywtflol *dangles keys in front of you* LOOK AT THE SHINY SHINY! :P

@PaladinusSP

8 жыл бұрын

Pieh0 I simply commended the camera work. Since when paying attention to what is said and what is shown at the same time is considered some sort of an impossible feat?

@stevenmorren5951

8 жыл бұрын

Also had to smile when the camera zoomed in on Nick Clegg's face at 11.11 when Gisela Stuart mentioned tuition fees.

Out of 220 countries in the world approx 190 are sovereign states with no political unions with any other countries. The vast majority of them manage to run their affairs pretty satisfactorily and many of them are very successful politically, socially and economically why do we feel that the UK as the 5th economy in the world can't succeed as an independent state?

@bunney3272

8 жыл бұрын

A dependency culture we have developed since WWII.

@gremy0

8 жыл бұрын

Wow you didn't even try to make an honest and sensible point did you. There are closer to 190 countries in the world. 28 are in the eu. But that list also includes about 50-60 overseas territories belonging to various other countries. As well as a handfull of countries that use other countries currencies making them very much dependent on a foreign Union. As well as every other country that is bound to various treaties and unions. Including every country that has signed up to the un and every member of nato.

@bobphin6454

8 жыл бұрын

Norway and Switzerland are laughin all the way to the bank

@Ariadne7710

8 жыл бұрын

Wrong. There are 200 countries in the world PLUS another 46 overseas dependencies of various types. Only the 28 EU members are in a "political union". Some of rest have various types of agreements on some aspect of their governance e.g. trade associations, security associations etc. but non of them have lost sovereignty or the power of their elected Governments to run their countries.

@gremy0

8 жыл бұрын

"overseas dependencies of various types": i.e. counties. "There are no non-sovereign countries in the UN's list of recognised list of sovereign countries"

Luckily most of the audience looks like a fairly niche strata of the population. While the end vote was to remain, what's important is that more people were convinced to leave! VOTE LEAVE

@patbateman2088

8 жыл бұрын

James HW The amount of people in the room that wanted to stay decreased, while the amount of people in the room that wanted to leave increased. IT'S VERY FUCKING SIMPLE

@patbateman2088

8 жыл бұрын

LOL but the *effect* of the debate shifted more views in favour of Brexit. What you are saying would be valid if the entire audience was 100% undecided upon entering the venue...

@patbateman2088

8 жыл бұрын

James HW will you now publicly admit that it was in fact YOU who could not grasp the logic?

@gremy0

8 жыл бұрын

I understand where you are coming from to say that Gisela Stuart won this particular debate but that doesn't transcribe to justify a leave vote. The fact that she convinced more undecided people in this hall is not important with regards the actual issue.

@patbateman2088

8 жыл бұрын

No audience can reflect the views of the population - especially this one. All that matters in the actual vote is what the entire British population decides (nobody knows what the result will be)... all we can get from this debate is what *effect* it had. It had a positive effect for Brexit... if you cannot see this you are in denial and not looking at what's most important.

14:40 The fact check guy about whether or not the UK sends 350m pounds a week to the EU: *“Well no, but actually yes.”*

No amount of money that we might be worse off by is just not worth our freedom that our forefathers fought for. All those lives lost will be for nothing if we stay in the EU. Vote out

@valkyriesardo278

8 жыл бұрын

Oh I hope so. To paraphrase Ben Franklin "Those who would trade freedom for a little bit of safety, deserve neither"

I was completely undecided, But I'm voting after leave. It was the lack of substance from Nick!!!

@bethanchalmers912

8 жыл бұрын

I feel like if you were 100% undecided as you claim you shouldn't base the entirety of your decision on a single debate

@theknightswhosay

8 жыл бұрын

I agree with Bethan, but I doubt you'll find much more substance elsewhere.

@jebusallah1034

8 жыл бұрын

I was unsure until i heard Nick too, knowing he is always 100% wrong about economic issues the leave vote is clear :P

A second vote is NOT democratic. When you've voted for something, it's not democratic to have another vote before you've implemented the thing that you voted for in the first place. LEAVE means LEAVE !

Doesn't matter how you vote, you are NOT leaving. The EU officials will make sure of it.

That crossover fade at 10:22 was brilliant!

Quote of the speech from Nick Clegg "I was a little nobody" I could argue that times haven't changed much in his case. He clearly lost the debate judging by the figures at the end and he knew it by the look on his face.

@MilitantOldLady

8 жыл бұрын

Do you type comments on a trampoline, since you love jumping to conclusions so much? They won the debate.

@triggerhippy2826

8 жыл бұрын

Teutone No sorry but you're wrong the moderator stated very clearly at the beginning that it would be judged on the level of change, that's why they take a vote at the beginning and then one at the end. It's how they always judge these debates on IQ2. There was a massive swing on the undecided votes towards the leave camp and the stay camp lost one as it dropped from 60 to 59. By the rules of the debate they lost. Congratulations of making a fool of yourself.

@MilitantOldLady

8 жыл бұрын

Trigger Hippy The majority is still in the remain camp. If i have more than you, you can't automatically declare yourself the winner. That's not how polls work. What are you going to do with the results of the referendum? 59% for remaining (hypothetically), nope, the exit vote won? Sure, have your arbitrary win. Reality looks different.

@gremy0

8 жыл бұрын

He's not talking about polls, he is strictly talking about this debate. As in the competition of debate. The skills required to so, that people learn and practise. In that context, in which all debaters are judged, he lost. Regardless of your position on the issue, you have to say that Clegg did not do a good job here. I'm speaking as someone who wants to remain.

@MilitantOldLady

8 жыл бұрын

gremy0 No one did a good enough job. The exit argument was mired in falsehoods that were disproved by the fact checkers. The fact of the matter is, the majority is still in the remain camp.

11:22 That cut to Clegg just as she mentions "tuition fees" brilliant

All the non British questioners were only interested in their own status as to how they would be personally affected. I am afraid if they live in a country other than their own they have no right to make the rules. If they want to stay in the Uk they will most probably have to have work permits. Millions of people from many countries in the rest of the world work in many different countries and have work permits. The Europeans who want to work in the UK can do the same.

@alexmorrison5401

8 жыл бұрын

well said

@TR3LON1ST

8 жыл бұрын

If they pay taxes, they should have a saying. If they don't have a saying, don't make them pay taxes. If they must pay taxes, don't allow them to work. If you THEN realize that Britain doesn't even have the people to fuel its own economy, don't come crying to your neighboring countries for educated and trained professionals... Typical #Brexit-talk. You want the benefits, but not the obligations. If you get treated in a hospital, that is also paid by foreigners who've been working in Britain... What makes you British anyway?

OUT OUT OUT

By the way, this was an excellent debate. Very well done and all issues covered well. I liked the team with opinions and the fact-checker. I’ve never seen a debate arranged like that before. 👍🏼

"The EU is a mess but let's stay and reform from within!", "We'll have no say if we leave!" Even with the backdrop of a referendum and a VERY real possibility of a Leave vote, what reforms did Cameron get the EU to adopt? Remember his pledge was to have a referendum on whether we should remain in a 'reformed EU' or leave. Even with such bargaining power he managed not one iota of reform. Not one iota. The EU does not want to reform, on the contrary it wants more power because to save the disaster that is the Euro it needs further integration for the benefit of the majority of the EU - the Eurozone. And what changes did he get for the UK considering such bargaining power? Nothing. His bloomberg speech today reads as a sad joke.

Clegg has nothing to say other then appealing to people's fears. As an Australian, I say save yourselves, people of Britain. Ignore the U.S. President, the Australian P.M. and any clown in Europe that says you should stay- they all have a misguided vested interest in you remaining for a sensible voice in the EU....but many countries and their citizens are just ignored by the EU bureaucracy. Don't remain shackled to continental Europe because your exit makes their lives harder. For anyone worried about security and Russia, have you forgotten NATO?

@bunney3272

8 жыл бұрын

Regarding Russia, I seriously dislike the EU sanctions (the EU as a whole launched the sanctions) and a reckless foreign policy the EU hand in hand with NATO (though it was the EU which started it through its activities in Ukraine) the UK is being forced into. The EU's eastward expansion (also hand in hand with NATO) has consequences. Probably Merkel and Obama underestimated Putin's determination to stand his national interests. We are like a puppet state of EU-NATO, Cameron is like their Viceroy.

@bunney3272

8 жыл бұрын

+scribbler60 Regarding Canada, I propose a union between the UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. I want to make it a great power on the global stage, on equal footing with America, China or Russia.

the first speaker was very straightforward. and it should be obvious to most people that the second speaker sounds desperate to sell something....such terrible arguments on the remain side. i've been looking for any good arguments on the remain side for the past few days but haven't found anything convincing. if anyone has a good reason for remain please reply here...

@connormccreesh1893

8 жыл бұрын

Check out scientists for EU facebook page. Some good counter arguments to those put forward in things like the UKIP documentary.

@onseayu

8 жыл бұрын

cool, thank you!

@onseayu

8 жыл бұрын

well, definitely not AS biased, since i spammed their facebook with the "Brexit" movie on youtube XD

@vicmanato

8 жыл бұрын

EU Scientists are largely subsidised by the EU. Their greatest argument is: don't bite the hand that feeds you.

Still watching... but what is Cleggy waffling on about?

@qwertywtflol

8 жыл бұрын

Daydreaming of his Spanish residence.

@petefulham9278

8 жыл бұрын

He's hoping that we stay in, because then as a failed politician he can get a Job like most of the undemocratic politicians that make up the presidencies and commission. He lied about the student fees or he was so incompetent that he didn't know what he was talking about, how can you trust anything he says now?

Clegg would make an excellent star of the silver screen if he had looks, talent and charisma. Oh well!

@newcjon

8 жыл бұрын

I'm a man and we often get this wrong but he doesn't look ugly to me. Also I don't think he lacks charisma either. Clegg's problem is that he is just wrong about everything, literally 100% of everything.

@PoliticalWeekly

8 жыл бұрын

or maybe he's a liberal and you are a conservative

@shanelevene4864

8 жыл бұрын

You'd make an excellent social satirist if you didn't write in such tired and unoriginal old clichés. Do you not think we've heard such lame phrases before? Jesus, does no one have an original thinking brain anymore? Could you not, with all the words at your disposal, come up with an original insult? X

vote leave!!!

Who the hell believes Clegg

Nick Clegg - "Why should we impose our views on the next generation" Well we don't impose we vote, and we vote with the collective wisdom of experience and hopefully facts we have at hand. Does Nick also believe each generation should start from scratch so they're not having their laws 'imposed' on them by their predecessors. No because we understand they'll have their freedom to vote once they've deemed it necessary to do so in the future. This type of line is there to purely tug at the heart strings and adds no value to the debate in my view, nobody is questioning if you sincerely believe its best to stay. Personally i don't care of your motives i care for the facts and rational of someones arguments. Please leave the "think of the children" out of these debates people, nobody is trying to destroy their future.

Gisela Stuart's metaphor of the EU resembling "polymer memory foam" at 33.44 with regard to EU's intransigence to reform was genius. Find the final vote result very hard to believe. I'm OUT, OUT and thrice OUT.

Notice the bias at the end of the debate. Leave won the debate but the moderator said the room chose Remain. No they didn't chief.

I wondered what she was going to bring to the table.... boy was I wrong. Absolutely brilliant.

Nick is obviously looking forward to his large 6 figure salary in the EU some day soon. The leave side did very well in the debate by taking 1% away from the remain camp and 12% from the undecided.

No one even acknowledged the TTIP remark. Have the audience got their blinders on!

The EU has failed miserably. I doubt it could last for long.

Was very impressed with Gisela, time to leave.

@PetiteBluebirdgirl

8 жыл бұрын

Yes, me too; very clear and concise and superior to Cleggy who is borrrrrring!

As an American, I love the UK very much, but I do not love many of the other EU countries (although I do love Italy very much). I think that it would be good for the Brits to regain their sovereignty. (Obama's leaving soon; we'll always have your backs.) I also wouldn't mind seeing Germany and France knocked down a peg by being in a smaller EU. :D

What did the guy mean when he said "Last time something like this happened was two generations ago". Can you please tell me what was he referring to?

@maniksingh90

7 жыл бұрын

+Cato Solus I agree. That's probably what he is referring to. The 1973 or 1975 referendum to stay in the EU common market. Thanks a lot :)

Gisela Stuart spouted a steady stream of lies throughout the debate. The biggest one was that the UK would not leave the single market. What an ignorant comment. Her understanding of international trade was simply comical.

I REALLY wonder, why the most important question for the decision about stay of leave is NEVER even remotely touched. If I had had the option to ask a question there, it would have been: Is it true or is it not that having a trade deficit within a free trade area literally means the jobs producing the stuff you're consuming are in another country? Is it true or is it not that the Germans and their massive trade surplus would right after Brexit come BEGGING for a trade deal, where Britain could make the Germans PAY for getting a deal rather than the British not only paying to the EU but also paying in form of ever greater national debt?

vote for freedom...

The most significant factor in determining an individual's propensity to vote for Brexit is an inverse relationship with their educational attainment. That speaks volumes.

60% to Remain? You sure lol? I've not met a remainer yet, I wonder where they found all them!

60% of the people here voted stay and 30% voted leave.The actual result is so different.

you should make a post- Brexit debate

What happened to the "truth squad" checking on the audit claims? They just let Clegg ramble on like he was being paid by the word. 1:10:00

Would be interesting to know what percentage of the audience are in full time work.... or if the audience is proportionate to the demographic of the country...

Completely empty debate really, Nick Clegg made some ridiculously weak arguments which the other debater never seized upon to use against him; a couple of lightweights if you ask me.

And by the way, to the young lady who asked the last question, if you leave GB. you are most welcome in the US. Absolutely stunning.

Jesus Christ....I'm sure that Nick Clegg is a lovely bloke, but his arguments are so weak, it's unbelievable. I wouldn't be surprised if his bleating actually convinces some remainers to vote leave.

1:16:00 It appears some of the audience are far more intelligent than those on stage. Addressing the intractability of the different viewpoints and evaluating them seems a more useful approach than trotting out all the usual arguments. There are some I will not discuss this with since I would need to start with their world view. There isn't enough time between now and the referendum to convince someone like that.

@PetiteBluebirdgirl

8 жыл бұрын

How true indeed; I am a person who has read every treaty, every article about the EU; also I know all of the Presidents names. Shame Harriet Harman could even name one. Cleggy gets on my nerves; treats people like idiots. Sovereignty cannot be pooled; it is a fallacy to even say so Cleggy! Sovereignty belongs to one nation/country; In our case the United Kingdom. What is Sovereignty? A country doesn’t require a monarch to be sovereign; lots of countries are sovereign but here in the UK we have proud traditions....Prior to 1973, The UK was a full Sovereign country; a country which governed herself for a thousand years, without outside interference. We made our own rules; amended those rules and lived in a civilised society; thus our government held the ultimate supreme power over our land, by way of full determination of its laws and its people. The rules of a Sovereign country should not allow any other governance or alien type of rule which would undermine, threaten the culture, heritage, and way of life of the Realm and its people. How our Sovereignty has dwindled away (*75% of our laws are now made in Brussels) Viviane Redding EU Commissioner up to 2014.

35:44 And that's where everyone should be voting to leave. We (or at least people over 18 in 1975) voted for an economic union with Europe, allowing a foreign government to overrule us is nothing to do with trade.

Nick Clegg must speak favourably about the European Union. or his EU pension will be stopped. As a young man, his family lived next door to, and were on very friendly terms with, the then Foreign Secretary, Lord Carrington. Lord Carrington was a good-buddy of Leon Brittan , the UK's EU Commissioner. Young Clegg was wanting to get a foothold on the EU gravy-train, so a job was found for him as assistant to Commissioner Brittan - you know how these things are done. He was there long enough to qualify for an EU pension.

I'm in the Remain camp and yet am disappointed with Gisela who has been very weak in this... someone in the Leave camp needs to make a strong case so I can see what my rationale is worth. Its not enough for me when Boris puts the EU in the same category as the architects of the Holocaust, which was such a strong historical parellel that it took me whole seconds to get over... Pesky Boris

All politicians who denounce the UK's ability to stand up on it's own in the world of trade, as Clegg does, should undertake to disappear and not earn another penny from the public purse after successful Brexit.

How are you supposed to show footsteps on a country if there is no color to the footsteps. Perhaps a disclaimer saying the feet were actually clean? Maybe they washed them in the Mediterranean?

Debate organised by the Guardian. This tells you everything about the audience. One can hardly take this debate seriously.

@Dunnlrs

8 жыл бұрын

The debate started with an audience voting 60% Remain, 17% Leave and 23% undecided. It ended with 59% Remain, 30% Leave and 11% undecided. It seems that Gisela managed to persuade the unknowns to vote Brexit in a heavily pro remain skewed audience. Well done Gisela.

@GaryBox

8 жыл бұрын

+Dunnlrs Yes agreed. Actually it's amazing Gisela does not have a higher profile within the Labour party but then most of the party are for remain. It was so refreshing to hear a German born woman give the case for leaving and doing so without scare tactics, talking calmly and using the realities of the global world we live in to make her point. I'm voting leave and with just weeks to go I hope the leave campaign make greater use of Gisela in events and TV debates.

That debate was shocking. We had the EU experts who only spoke on a couple of issues, and the infacts guy who only clarified a couple of issues.... Jesus

God, Clegg is irritating. I'm sick of the way the Stay side continually imply that if you want to leave the EU it is somehow because you are prejudice against immigrants.

Nick Clegg just argued against himself in his opening speech, probably without realising it.

In the US version of IQ2 the side with the highest shift in % to there side wins. This makes it a more fair debate and puts both sides on a more even ground. Following this, it would mean that the leave side won. Also why don't they have an electronic voting system? No one should be voting while there are still some questions being discussed. The debate it self was well managed though.

lets ask the question...are british politicians becoming outdated with the growing influence of european decision making

This is an awful debate. Anybody else getting the impression that the moderator and fact checker are imposing their own personal beliefs?

The closing statement of Gisela....rather than listen to what young people really wants, and believe that young people can decide for themselves, because I am older and wiser generation, we know what is better for our children.

I though the side that sees the largest percentage change in their favor wins?

Could only watch long enough to see the end of Cleggs "opening argument" which was totally devoid of ANY facts whatsoever. Emotion = irrational unjustified statements designed to manipulate you.

Intelligence squared... with Nick Clegg. Don't they mean Intelligence Halved.

@chickengeorge6089

8 жыл бұрын

any one with a name like that deserves to be bullied.

@johnphelan7403

8 жыл бұрын

Integrity halved at the very least.

@dotsthots

8 жыл бұрын

john phelan I think you're right. He's not stupid, he deliberately misleads, misdirects and mischaracterises. Erecting and knocking down straw-men is one of his main debating tactics.

@johnphelan7403

8 жыл бұрын

dotsthots Having spent time working for the EU Commission & then been an MEP,Clegg became a partner in a lobbying firm.Being persuasive & pushing peoples' buttons was his stock in trade - as Lib Dem voters would later learn when he made promises to them & then ignored them when the opportunity came to be part of a coalition government.

@_s_p_a_r_k_e_s_7615

8 жыл бұрын

Intelligence square rooted?

The fascinating aspect watching this 7 years latter is the personalization of the debate. Looking at the original comments there is clearly a dislike of Nick Clegg. One suspects that a sizable percentage of people voted on the basis of who they disliked as spokespeople for one side or another. How childish can you get. “I hate Clegg, Clegg is a remainer, I will vote for Brexit.” There is an amazing level of ignorance among the Brexit supporters. They simply don’t have a clue what the single market is, the function of the EU Commission, that FOM works in both directions, and that the EU parliament is directly elected and powerful. Last but not least the debate ignores the British border in Ireland. Brexit

nafta is hated and you just said a big achievement was naming chocolate. .....OUT OUT OUT

“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

*Name one country (not EU member state, IS or Russia) that supports GB leaving the EU?*

vote leave..get your country back

HAPPY BREXIT EVERYONE!!

How the fuck is Nick Clegg on something with the word "intelligence" in the heading

intelligence debate.....what the hell is Clegg doing on it!!

11:51 spot the person that's sleeping

60% voted to stay? Most of the people I know of and lot more people I see online saying they want to leave. I don't understand? Getting the feeling that the voting might be rigged and probably end up staying in the EU.

@fannyshmeller7344

8 жыл бұрын

thats exactly what i was thinking

@SquareNoggin

8 жыл бұрын

This just attracted a certain type of audience, and it's far too small a sample to really say anything about the population as a whole. The truth is there is a lot of people who directly benefit from the country being part of the EU and they are the type of people to make sure the folks that show up to this kind of potential propaganda needs to favor them. I'm not even British but this is clearly a big deal. Is there any truly unbiased polls about which way the referendum's going to go? I'm genuinely nervous. Are you saying on the ground it seems sure "leave" is going to win? As a matter of principle I think the EU should be forced to dissolve. Britain leaving might just do that. Tell me you genuinely think the winds are blowing towards "leave" because nothing would piss me off more than you guys giving up what might be your last chance to leave that recipe for disaster and hopefully reveal it for the racket it so clearly is.

@craimo1411

8 жыл бұрын

You're wrong about this being propaganda. This is a debate by a wonderful, respected organisation that holds fair and reasoned debates all around the world. These debates however tend to largely attract academic and higher educated audiences. Polls are showing that this kind of demographic are much more likely to vote remain hence the audience bias. But you're correct in saying this is a poor example of a poll to judge the country-wide vote consensus, perhaps look at some of the poll averages to compensate for different demographics.

Nick Clegg should have been in the leave team. He's done more to turn people off the EU than all other remainers put together. The guys a donkey.

'The Great Intelligence Squared Brexit Debate'.Why is Cleggerz there then?

@PetiteBluebirdgirl

8 жыл бұрын

Only a fool would listen to this man (students have short memories). So desperate is he to save his pension, his windfarm businesses and more; he stands to lose a lot and all at a cost to us the taxpayers who are propping up people of his ilk, who only have VESTED INTERESTS to keep the EU gravy train rolling. #VoteLeave

I'm voting out, those i've asked are mostly voting out. From Scotland where the debate is totally one sided in favour of remain. I'm not convinced Scotland will vote remain at all :/ (polls seem off)

Fast forward 4 years and I bet most of these comments on favour of Gisela are now regrets. Also Gisela and nick continue to do no opposition to a long standing Tory party.

This is way more important than a general election. In a general election you just switch the puppets around the structure is almost identical

Clegg lost me when he said Boudica wrong.

@newcjon

8 жыл бұрын

Did Clegg ever make any sense to you? ;-)

@gudmundursteinar

8 жыл бұрын

Well I am a Europhile Liberal, so he makes sense from time to time.

@shanelevene4864

8 жыл бұрын

Pre 1965 it was always taught that Boadicea should be pronounced boo~di~ci~ah or even 'chee~ah'. As there are various spellings so there are various pronunciations. You'd have to ask the girl's mother to really know if he pronounced it wrong and I'm quite sure you're not able to do that. That you would follow that piece of shit for so long is the real worrying thing. Clegg, sounds like some kind of a barnacle you'd find attached to a shitty rock. X

@alganhar1

8 жыл бұрын

As a marine biologist of over 30 years standing I object to that. Barnacles have more charm, more charisma, and possibly, are more intelligent than Clegg....

The fast-checking man only has 1 ear...

Did any one see how Nick Clegg stopped the fact checker from answering the question about the EU books not being signed off for years? I guess he's not a politician for nothing.

@carolinebarnes6832

3 жыл бұрын

Okay, i spoke too soon.

Bets on how much the stock market will fall on the day Britain votes to leave?

2:01 That dude has 1 ear but his other ear is trying to compensate.

Clegg is living proof of the failure of incessant compromise.

What disastrous result! Mind boggling as to what on the people in the Odeon are thinking of? Maybe they've been dragged. Also I think Nick has been given far too much time to blab about staying.

Out asap. If we to remain, can we then have a referendum on the disbanding of the houses of lords and parliament as no longer being relevant and rather costly? If Europe is making our decisions and local mps have no say in this at all(same as our meps don't have now) what job would they be getting paid for? Chat amongst themselves?

This is why BREXIT is the single most important vote in defeating the EU in our life times. Britain represents not only for protecting their own sovereignty and the right to make their own decisions, but for the rest of the world, a loud and clear message that Elitism and Globalism are synonymous and should be defeated at all costs! The pros of leaving the EU 1. Better Trade deals 2. Economic prosperity 3. Sovereignty of Governance 4. Less regulation for small Businesses 5. Freedom 6. Control over their own immigration laws and decisions 7. Unrestricted access to the worlds free market 8. Fair competition for all Cons.1. To be governed by an organization no one understands 2. Run by people no one knows or haven't been elected who have all the power to impose laws that aren't debated with little chance to be blocked or to be repealed 3. Stagnated Economic growth with numerous and costly regulations stifling progress 4. EU Council have no accountability and answer to no one 5. Trade barriers all but eliminating competition thus driving up the costs of goods for the common consumer 6. A country does not have to be in the EU to have trade deals with other EU countries or in the world. (See Switzerland as the most prosperous country in the world) 7. The cost of running the EU, with Salaries and glutenous bureaucracy growing tens times more than other countries GDP, is inefficient and makes decisions based on their own desire to keep their cushy jobs. 8. Can arbitrarily raise taxes without any referendum by EU members. 9. Can arbitrarily make immigration decisions for other countries, without those countries having a say. It is quite clear that staying in the EU is a suicide mission for Great Britain if they decided to remain, and by exiting the EU means having control of its future, its national identity as well as the opportunity to compete equally in the worlds free and open markets thus allowing for prosperity for its citizens to flourish with less regulations!

Selling a politcal coup as "joining a market". Everything stated after "Take control, vote leave" is a waste of your time.

@craimo1411

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I don't think you understand how debates work (or coups), if you want someone to reaffirm your unquestioning opinion try reading the Sun.

The Euro is failing and with massive unemployment in Europe plus a stagnant economy it's not In uk interest to remain

I don't think the EU is over run with mass immigration by the British. We are worried about MASS immigration, not immigration.

never never never vote for clegg he is a traitor...... vote out.

So Gisela won with +13, Clegg -1

I have such a smug self-satisfaction reviewing this living in the future relative to this discussion. The world of pain we’ve gone through thanks to the likes Clegg and Co. they’ve all been swept away and the gears are finally moving again. Utterly disingenuous to simply announce that the room voted to remain without clearly stating that the debate was convincingly won by the leave side. The look on Clegg’s face absolutely betrayed his disappointment because he LOST 1% to the leave side; he actually talked some people out of remaining! Hahahaha

U.S. was protected G.B. in WWII, and we stay with you now!

which side is nick clegg on again?

Nick Cleg is waffling as usual of him!

No-one objects to common rules when trading. It is the political union I object to. Who would pool ownership of their home or pool access to their bank account. Will we have to declare war on Russia because of a majority decision? Please vote leave.

Please vote to leave, I love how the remain campaign always rely on big financial institutions for financial figures, the same institutions who are paid by the european union, also where were they to warn us in 2008 and the years to follow? The remain campaign is of all the politicians who know they will increase their pay checks once their time is over in UK politics.

the echo is almost intolerable

The great Chocolate debate cost how much?