The Grand Moff who Replaced Tarkin and Became the Most Powerful Imperial WARLORD! (Legends)

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The Non-Canon Expert looks at the career of Imperial Grand Moff Ardus Kaine, explaining first how he rose to prominence in the Galactic Empire to replace Grand Moff Tarkin as overseer of Oversector Outer upon Tarkin's death on the Death Star, and then his rise and fall as the most powerful Imperial Warlord following the Battle of Endor.
This is a Legends story for Grand Moff Ardus Kaine and the Galactic Empire in the post-Endor period with information from a number of Legends sources, but primarily the Legends guide "Star Wars: The Essential Guide to Warfare." I hope that you enjoy it!
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  • @crisisamonginfinitedarthsa4220
    @crisisamonginfinitedarthsa42205 жыл бұрын

    Palpatine: Loyal subjects, with the death of our beloved Tarkin, I would like to introduce your new Grand Moff! Kermit: Hello, Kermit the Frog here.

  • @sfk1066

    @sfk1066

    5 жыл бұрын

    LOL!! That's hillarious!! :)

  • @rebelkommando6166

    @rebelkommando6166

    5 жыл бұрын

    I wish.

  • @xsailor85

    @xsailor85

    5 жыл бұрын

    NNNOOO!!!

  • @daverage4729

    @daverage4729

    5 жыл бұрын

    We need a Star Wars Muppets movie. Sam the american eagle would make a great Tarkin, with Stanley and Waldorf as Imperial generals. :)

  • @billfryant3406

    @billfryant3406

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@daverage4729 my first thought was Oscar the Grouch as Tarkin, but then I realized he'd be a much better Chewbacca.

  • @vitorkennedy1862
    @vitorkennedy18625 жыл бұрын

    And my favorite faction in Thrawn's revenge.

  • @metalc.s3170

    @metalc.s3170

    5 жыл бұрын

    With one of the best sounding names of any imperial remnant faction. At least to me

  • @SirGriffin87

    @SirGriffin87

    5 жыл бұрын

    What is thrawns revenge?

  • @metalc.s3170

    @metalc.s3170

    5 жыл бұрын

    SirGriffin87@ it’s a mod for the game Star Wars empire at war

  • @MagicSpud

    @MagicSpud

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hell yes! Epic faction name, great starting territory, awesome hero roster. Bit too weak on the ground though imo.

  • @rebelkommando6166

    @rebelkommando6166

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@MagicSpud I definitely agree. I wish they had access to AT-ATs since that's my go-to Imperial unit in TR.

  • @metalc.s3170
    @metalc.s31705 жыл бұрын

    Ardus Kaine.... that is a name that sounds awesome and I actually like the pentastar alignment. Both the name. And it’s military. Command. funding and political structure. Zinj May have had the strongest military at the time but kaine knew (Mostly) it was better to focus on his own forces and consolidating rather than outright attacking the new republic. (Of course when palpitine summons you and orders you to lead on the front lines. It really a choice of dying slowly and painfully (a long time of getting shocked by force lightning) or dying fast in the heat of battle. He was basically gonna die no matter what most likely)

  • @user-iz9oe7ht6z
    @user-iz9oe7ht6z5 жыл бұрын

    The legends timeline’s story of the decaying galactic empire is so much more realistic than the canon’s. Something like it happened in our world too. After the abdication of Nicholas II, Russian Empire quickly fell into anarchy as competing political factions destabilized the country. Then came the October Revolution and Russia’s fate was finally sealed. The Bolsheviks took over the country but they didn’t control most of its parts. Old regime sympathizers consolidated their power on the river Don and in Ukraine, thus creating the White movement. Separatist factions arose, intervention began, it was total war!

  • @rebelkommando6166

    @rebelkommando6166

    5 жыл бұрын

    Another good example would be Alexander the Great. After his death, four of his generals split up his empire and began fighting each other.

  • @grandadmiralzaarin4962
    @grandadmiralzaarin49625 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Thank you for doing a video on Ardus Kaine! A fascinating character and extremely competent Warlord. Though his actions immediately after Endor did irreparable damage to the Empire and saved the New Republic. He had Grand Admiral Grant, a Super Star Destroyer, Jerec and the most powerful infrastructure of the Warlords yet he did nothing until his hand was forced in Shadow Hand. He did win a dozen victories and drive to the Core before his assassination. Each of the Warlords are fascinating in their own way, hope you do one on Zsinj!

  • @sfk1066

    @sfk1066

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yet, one could say that his actions were visionary and saw the reality of the situation as well.

  • @grandadmiralzaarin4962

    @grandadmiralzaarin4962

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@sfk1066 I mean he was correct-the Empire tore itself apart, the Core fell and if he tried to expand he might fail. The issue is though that his actions helped speed that along. His ignoring Central Authority helped inspire other Admirals and Moffs to do the same. It helped fragment the Empire and before that his retreat from Mon Cal and abandoning of most of Oversector Outer allowed the New Republic to survive and thrive.

  • @HolyknightVader999

    @HolyknightVader999

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@grandadmiralzaarin4962 Ardus Kaine did the right thing, making the Pentastar Alignment neutral. Trying to reconquer Coruscant and the Empire at large with a handful of ISDs and one SSD is a fool's errand. Unless you've got tactics better than Thrawn, that's a pipe dream. Better to let the other Imperials and former Rebels blow each other up while you consolidate your power. If he hadn't died in Operation Shadow Hand, Kaine might have become the next commander-in-chief for the whole Empire, and he might have made a difference against the Yuuzhan Vong.

  • @grandadmiralzaarin4962

    @grandadmiralzaarin4962

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@HolyknightVader999 you forget he had far more than just Scourge Squadron. A vast chunk of the naval forces from Oversector Outer went with him to the PA. His dereliction of duty in not assaulting(or at least continuing to blockade) Mon Cal Space during and right after Endor allowed the Alliance to repair and construct warships they otherwise wouldn't have. Kaine going rogue led to Delvardus doing the same and emboldened other Imperial commanders to follow his example badly weakening central authority in the Empire. This also convinced Grand Admiral Grant to defect after Kaine refused to try and save Imperial Center(which he could have done easily at its first fall) ironically causing his own future demise in the process. Further after Shadow Hand the Empire was mortally wounded(the Imperial Mutiny ruined the majority of the military strength) and had Kaine lived he would have used the failure of Shadow Hand and the madness of the Mutiny to justify returning to Isolationism. He wouldn't have unified with Jax and the Council or the Deep Core Warlords. He was a talented administrator and brilliant tactician but fatally flawed with indecision-a historical parallel would be Yuan Shao.

  • @jasonmills8203
    @jasonmills82035 жыл бұрын

    Sadly I was forced to eliminate him in a massive space battle last week...

  • @KaiserMattTygore927

    @KaiserMattTygore927

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I usually play as his faction in the TR mod

  • @echosdatacore2056
    @echosdatacore20565 жыл бұрын

    Moff Kaine was an awesome military commander, I really think he was better than Moff Tarkin

  • @aliastheabnormal

    @aliastheabnormal

    5 жыл бұрын

    He was the smartest one at least. He could have become Emperor if his minions didn't drag him into Palpatine's service at gunpoint.

  • @user-iz9oe7ht6z

    @user-iz9oe7ht6z

    5 жыл бұрын

    He was a cold, calculating man. Probably thought that there was no point in gambling his quite secure position in order to save quite an ineffective galaxy-wide political system

  • @user-iz9oe7ht6z

    @user-iz9oe7ht6z

    5 жыл бұрын

    If not for THE magical space wizard, he could have made himself a king of quite a big and wealthy chunk of the Galaxy. Self-efficient as well.

  • @thomashaberl2858

    @thomashaberl2858

    5 жыл бұрын

    Charming to the Last

  • @user-re8pd6vm2x

    @user-re8pd6vm2x

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tarkin wasnt as good a military commander as Thrawn or Kaine. Even during the Clone Wars. So yes, he was definitely better than Tarkin.

  • @MrMultiPat
    @MrMultiPat5 жыл бұрын

    Thank God you make these Legends videos, this is stuff I otherwise would never know as there's so much Legends content to read up on.

  • @An_Inconvenience

    @An_Inconvenience

    5 жыл бұрын

    Basic logic, there is little chance that Disney will be able to release the same amount of content as legends. For the simple fact that the old EU was having content produced for it for nearly 40 years (37 years at time of axeing)

  • @denisvezijak9219
    @denisvezijak92195 жыл бұрын

    At last REAL STAR WARS EXPANDED UNIVERSE story. Keep making this TRUE Star Wars content

  • @BungieStudios

    @BungieStudios

    5 жыл бұрын

    Amen.

  • @akumaking1

    @akumaking1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Disney Soy Wars movies suck ass; Rebels is tolerable.

  • @vitorkennedy1862

    @vitorkennedy1862

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@akumaking1 Rebels is not the worst because of Resistance, but still sucks compared to clone wars 2003

  • @jintym2951
    @jintym29515 жыл бұрын

    Grand Moff Kaine: genius preserving his military to preserve the future of the Empire or Master Thumb Twiddler? 🤔 xx

  • @sfk1066

    @sfk1066

    5 жыл бұрын

    Long term visionary who understood the realities perhaps?

  • @sfk1066

    @sfk1066

    5 жыл бұрын

    @UC-fA8INMozzuBsQJ0c1sgjQ I'm gonna assume he was probably well-defended and anticipated a New Republic attack. However, he had the other factions distracting them causing ravoc. Also, if those factions succeed or failed, it would give him better leverage mounting his own invasion, assuming New Republic forces would have dwindled...if planned appropriately of course.

  • @BungieStudios

    @BungieStudios

    5 жыл бұрын

    He's a turtler like I am in Sins of a Solar Empire. While the other players/AIs are focusing on my teammates, I'm building up myself to be ready for my own invasion and defense.

  • @user-rr6jj5mr6f

    @user-rr6jj5mr6f

    5 жыл бұрын

    That the beauty of Kaine, he's both

  • @HolyknightVader999
    @HolyknightVader9995 жыл бұрын

    The time after Endor was a very fascinating one, with many contenders for the true heir of Palpatine, from Ysanne Isard, to Warlord Zsinj, and Ardus Kaine. The Empire after Endor was basically Westeros writ large, dominated by powerful warlords who answered to nobody. It would have made for a great TV series to have what amounts to Game of Thrones in space with the Rebels in the background.

  • @TheLiamster
    @TheLiamster5 жыл бұрын

    I hate moffs they get everywhere and I have to keep killing them.

  • @pumpkinlife103

    @pumpkinlife103

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lol! Now that is funny!

  • @rebelkommando6166

    @rebelkommando6166

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Jordan Britt that was good.

  • @aerophine_66

    @aerophine_66

    4 жыл бұрын

    Good one mate🤣🤣🤣

  • @TheFacelessStoryMaker
    @TheFacelessStoryMaker3 жыл бұрын

    This is why legends will always be better. In legends it took like what 20 years after the Battle of Endor for the Empire to capitulate to the New Republic.

  • @emzonik8851

    @emzonik8851

    Жыл бұрын

    And even still the surrender was conditional.

  • @zioreturnsgaming
    @zioreturnsgaming5 жыл бұрын

    How you pick stuff no one else covers from the Star Wars mythos is why this channel is my personal favourite.

  • @BirbarianHomeGuard
    @BirbarianHomeGuard5 жыл бұрын

    I love the Pentastar Alignment. You get the chance to play as them in the Thrawn’s Revenge mod!

  • @axelazua3937
    @axelazua39375 жыл бұрын

    Watching this has piqued my curiousity about the Imperial remnants' military events after ROTJ. It's always been somewhat vague and distant in my mind since I've never read any of them but I've resolved to read them now

  • @nurseactual
    @nurseactual5 жыл бұрын

    Funny tidbit- when I was 6 in 1977, and ANH came out, I thought they called Tarkin Grandma Tarkin, so my friends and I went around calling him that. True story.

  • @HolyknightVader999
    @HolyknightVader9995 жыл бұрын

    Ardus Kaine did the right thing, making the Pentastar Alignment neutral. Trying to reconquer Coruscant and the Empire at large with a handful of ISDs and one SSD is a fool's errand. Unless you've got tactics better than Thrawn, that's a pipe dream. Better to let the other Imperials and former Rebels blow each other up while you consolidate your power. If he hadn't died in Operation Shadow Hand, Kaine might have become the next commander-in-chief for the whole Empire, and he might have made a difference against the Yuuzhan Vong.

  • @falloutghoul1
    @falloutghoul12 жыл бұрын

    Ardus Kaine saved the Empire from total destruction with the Pentastar Alignment.

  • @akumaking1
    @akumaking15 жыл бұрын

    "Kaine". It was obvious he'd become dangerous to everyone.

  • @Alexthe360Great
    @Alexthe360Great5 жыл бұрын

    4 things 1. In Empire at War: Thrawn's Revenge Mod, Pentastar Alignment is probably my favorite faction. 2. Did you know there is a Spacebattles quest by user Alias? It is actually pretty entertaining, though it hasn't been updated in a while. 3. 1:29 "crucial to the existence and survival of the empire" Well, he was right, wasn't he? 4. Imagine this guy and Thrawn actually working together- the things Thrawn could do with the Reaper...

  • @TheDandyMann
    @TheDandyMann5 жыл бұрын

    A friend of mine loves the sith, so I drew her a sith inpired pentastar alignment. It was a black star on a red background. lotta fun to figure out how to draw with a compass and a straight edge.

  • @CiabanItReal
    @CiabanItReal5 жыл бұрын

    I left a like for *Being better off in the deep core*

  • @Gor85
    @Gor855 жыл бұрын

    This is pretty cool. He was awesome So powerful and smart. I felt it

  • @stuartnaknakim9441
    @stuartnaknakim94415 жыл бұрын

    Great vid

  • @Jesters-Jinx
    @Jesters-Jinx5 жыл бұрын

    Love you SWRC!

  • @sithlord1906
    @sithlord19065 жыл бұрын

    Love your work!

  • @DarrelsWonderland
    @DarrelsWonderland5 жыл бұрын

    Heyo, SWRC! Another happy landing!! Sorry I couldn’t watch your stream all the way through yesterday, I was meeting Ray Park at my local Comic Con!

  • @starwarsreadingclub

    @starwarsreadingclub

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not a problem at all DW, I am fixing a few internet issues so lots of streams down the road. I appreciate the support and hope you had a great time meeting Ray Park. That would be a great opportunity!

  • @DaleESkywalker
    @DaleESkywalker5 жыл бұрын

    It's good to be back, except all the catching up... I didn't have a charger for five days while I was on vacation.

  • @MortarGuyX
    @MortarGuyX5 жыл бұрын

    @5:43 :V he got Yamamoto'd by -P-38s- E-wings

  • @dreamingflurry2729
    @dreamingflurry27295 жыл бұрын

    One of very few Imperials worth a damn :) - Yes, he was a driven military man, but the same could be said about Garm Bel Iblis ;)

  • @SPHG425

    @SPHG425

    4 жыл бұрын

    DreamingFlurry B-but Iblis is a filthy rebel traitor!

  • @dragonsword7370
    @dragonsword73705 жыл бұрын

    The whole video I kept unconsciously asking "An artist of what?!"

  • @connorgolden4
    @connorgolden45 жыл бұрын

    While he didn’t do anything to aid the post Endor empire he helped set the groundworks for the creation of the imperial remnant. If he had just gone off crusading against the NR he would’ve run out of steam eventually and his territory would have fallen to the rebels before Palleon could’ve set up shop.

  • @Alexthe360Great
    @Alexthe360Great5 жыл бұрын

    Also, I had a question. The Empire of the Hand is actually closest to the Pentastar Alignment IIRC. What would have happened if Kaine found out about the EofH and made an alliance with the Grand Admiral? Kaine's best friend was Grand Admiral Octavian Grant, who really hated Thrawn. How do you think that would affect things if they did make an alliance?

  • @nanakokuroi3619
    @nanakokuroi36193 жыл бұрын

    Khaine's bloody hand!! Oh, wait, wrong universe...

  • @adventwolfbane
    @adventwolfbane5 жыл бұрын

    Only one issue Kaine wasn't actually that much of a true believer in the Human Centric aspect of the New Order. He only pretended to be both to appease his father and to keep the rest of the Imperials from using it against him.

  • @CloneScavengerVulpin8389
    @CloneScavengerVulpin8389 Жыл бұрын

    Kaine was a true imperial even to the grave.

  • @MathiasCzR01
    @MathiasCzR015 жыл бұрын

    A very underrated and not well known character in Star Wars. Probably my personal favorite Imperial.

  • @williamwood6444
    @williamwood64445 жыл бұрын

    Here's a totally unrelated question: Why did Yoda warn Luke to not underestimate the power of the Emperor, but not bother to tell him that not only is he Force sensitive/Sith but that he'll fry him with (Sith) lighting?

  • @VaciliNikoMavich
    @VaciliNikoMavich5 жыл бұрын

    I forgot, did you ever do a scoop on Warload Zinji?

  • @BungieStudios
    @BungieStudios5 жыл бұрын

    Kaine was smart. He knew when to play his hand. Too bad he got fucked over by the assignation of Thrawn and Palpatine returning and wanting to apeshit on the New Republic, leading to Kaine's own assassination by the New Republic.

  • @goodmind4940
    @goodmind49405 жыл бұрын

    Isn't there still exists imperial remnant in canon? Like I heard they still control core worlds, why then Resistance fights only with First Order

  • @RyanTheDark
    @RyanTheDark5 жыл бұрын

    Yo SWRC, sorry I missed the stream yesterday. Something came up.

  • @starwarsreadingclub

    @starwarsreadingclub

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hey IRTB, no worries at all buddy. I unfortunately ran into some internet issues again yesterday, but there will be quite a few "test streams" coming up in the near future as I upgrade some of my equipment, so lots of live streams to come. Hope to catch you there and thank you for supporting the streams!

  • @metalc.s3170

    @metalc.s3170

    5 жыл бұрын

    The Star Wars Reading Club stream cruse (As I call it) struck again at a most unfortunate time

  • @jamesh2514
    @jamesh25145 жыл бұрын

    This is 5 days old and i'm just getting the notification.

  • @thomashaberl2858
    @thomashaberl28585 жыл бұрын

    You may sit out the reigns of Thrawn, Zsinj, Isard, and the Reborn Palpatine. But they forgot to get out of Daala's way!!

  • @facundopollacino7956
    @facundopollacino79563 ай бұрын

    Aparte de tener un nombre genial y dirigir un Remanente Imperial exitoso, Ardus Kaine también fue un mejor sucesor de Tarkin qué Natasi Daala.

  • @happyhaunter_5546
    @happyhaunter_55465 жыл бұрын

    Video on E-Wings please??

  • @futureclonecommando2275
    @futureclonecommando22755 жыл бұрын

    Thrawn was an excellent military warlord i say it would be at least impossible to replace gim

  • @snipedude4953
    @snipedude49534 жыл бұрын

    I presume this character was dropped in after the prequels, I read most of the books up to the beginning New Jedi Order and I've never heard of him. I never read the comics if he was mentioned in those.

  • @milky_shakez1069
    @milky_shakez10695 жыл бұрын

    It turned off my bell notifications for your channel...... I have no idea why.....

  • @Lexie_Tyler05
    @Lexie_Tyler055 жыл бұрын

    Hello there

  • @victorbruant389
    @victorbruant3895 жыл бұрын

    In my opinion, it could have been better if Star Wars was set in a dwarf galaxy with only a few thousand to a few 10,000 stars, it doesn't seem "realistic" that a warlord or faction can control a large portion of the galaxy and in a small galaxy it would make much more sense why the same planets and names show up again and again, and not as in a Milky Way sized galaxy that has hundreds of billions of star systems.

  • @reduxmidasbrother7679
    @reduxmidasbrother76795 жыл бұрын

    Tarkin will always be my favourite. After Piett and Veers of course...Needa and Lennox were okay.

  • @michaeldiekmann6494

    @michaeldiekmann6494

    5 жыл бұрын

    He was an idiot

  • @tbyerly3883
    @tbyerly38835 жыл бұрын

    First here, first like, first time this has happened to me.

  • @starwarsreadingclub

    @starwarsreadingclub

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching and for the Like PD! :)

  • @crisisamonginfinitedarthsa4220

    @crisisamonginfinitedarthsa4220

    5 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations. Everyone deserves that honor.

  • @user-re8pd6vm2x
    @user-re8pd6vm2x4 жыл бұрын

    Let's be honest. Artus Kaine was probably the smartest Warlord there.

  • @Rainbowchicken-mk7ex
    @Rainbowchicken-mk7ex4 жыл бұрын

    At time 3:34 he’s a Admiral

  • @Nelo_Wolf
    @Nelo_Wolf5 жыл бұрын

    *EU has so much lore to work with, the Lucasfilm hacks suck at trying to make supposed canon lore where they are terrible at it. From what I know the imperial empire becomes a kingdom and han solo's daughter marries the heir.*

  • @VaciliNikoMavich

    @VaciliNikoMavich

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think you mean thr Disney Hacks. Lucas film didn't do anything. The licences was rented by disney, and even George Lucas himself regrets it now.

  • @Horus_the_Lupercal

    @Horus_the_Lupercal

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jaina Solo married Jagged Fel, the son of a Imperial fighter ace who had defected to the Chiss (and married a relative of Wedge). Later on he became Emperor (somehow) and his house were both Emperors slash Empresses and force users. This house carried on for around 100 years until the rise of Darth Kryat and that whole mess. Later the new Empire was reorganized into the Galactic Federation with his descendent forming part of the Triumvirate that ran the show. Or something like that, I forget.

  • @Nelo_Wolf

    @Nelo_Wolf

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Horus_the_Lupercal that's the house that I am talking about

  • @neilmurphy966
    @neilmurphy9665 жыл бұрын

    Moff Quarsh Panaka for the win 😂

  • @bgcvetan
    @bgcvetan4 жыл бұрын

    Nothing good comes of Naboo or Tatooine.

  • @athanatosfallenstar5483
    @athanatosfallenstar54835 жыл бұрын

    Would have happened if thawn was there when the emperor reemerged

  • @smashingpots9928
    @smashingpots99285 жыл бұрын

    Was he the heir to the empire before thrawn?

  • @smashingpots9928

    @smashingpots9928

    5 жыл бұрын

    Zinj thats a fun one do it too please?

  • @goldeagle6431
    @goldeagle64315 жыл бұрын

    The Senate replaces everything.

  • @imperialistopinions2276
    @imperialistopinions22765 жыл бұрын

    I feel like Kaine was kinda wasted, to be honest. He was clever, a solid ruler, and had the biggest military force of the warlord. The Imperial Remnant could have used him well.

  • @mittensfastpaw
    @mittensfastpaw5 жыл бұрын

    Considering how pathetic most of the other warlords and factions were early on. It honestly made sense not to waste valuable forces on helping pathetic leadership.

  • @fargeeks

    @fargeeks

    5 жыл бұрын

    Mittens FastPaw well i guess thats why palpatine didnt want the star destroyers involved in the fight

  • @Ra_Mystery
    @Ra_Mystery3 жыл бұрын

    ==== BIG DADDY KANE ====

  • @joshfinn1432
    @joshfinn14325 жыл бұрын

    Smart man, have all my ships, except all the big one. That's my baby lol

  • @Nelo_Wolf
    @Nelo_Wolf5 жыл бұрын

    *It's laughable that Disney cant created timeless stories with star wars and so much of their content...they rather suck the life out the franchise...*

  • @wookietalks385

    @wookietalks385

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's laughable, your point of view.

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