Separatist Senate: We are good people *General Grievous is murdering people in the next room*

@aurathedraak7909

4 жыл бұрын

Anakin I'm a good person, that stops evil. Anakin(Darth Vader), murdering all the separatists on mustafar. And younglings

@BluMan506

4 жыл бұрын

Ow him hes not with us

@PhantomKippy

4 жыл бұрын

@@aurathedraak7909 Anakin (Darth Vader) murders younglings

@simpleclonetrooper2740

4 жыл бұрын

@@aurathedraak7909 both parties are guilty

@Normalguy1690

4 жыл бұрын

Captain Rex of the 501st captain rex impaled an unarmed man with a staff a clone shot krell instead of letting him face trial Anakin slaughtered tuskin raiders the clone army is an army of slaves with no choice whether to fight or not and gets no respect atleast the droid army wasn’t all that sentient so they didn’t care about going to war.

the separatist weren't the ones who turned into the empire.

@TheSuperRatt

4 жыл бұрын

Nah, they were just the useful idiots manipulated to help bring it about.

@xavierz6687

4 жыл бұрын

The empire was founded on democracy and emperor palpatine was elected as emperor

@SpaCeyStarsH1ps

4 жыл бұрын

OHH

@samuelbishop3316

4 жыл бұрын

That happens when you get murdered by your competition.

@bork116

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheSuperRatt the same thing can be said about the republic

Legally Mace Windu started the war because of his illegal strike team on a legal public execution of trespassers on geonosis

@zkapsh

4 жыл бұрын

Its more like the fact that the separatist started hostilities by trying to assassinate amidala, and with the trade federation blockaded naboo. If I were the jedi or the Republic I would have started close tabs on the separatist the moment they blockaded naboo, and after the invasion of naboo.

@aceofspadesguy4913

4 жыл бұрын

zach kapsh When the Trade Federation attacked Naboo the CIS didn’t even exist yet so that’s not really a reason. That’s where it all started for the sith plan, but not what the galaxy at large would claim.

@codyrex0707

4 жыл бұрын

@@zkapsh #1 When the trade federation blockaded Naboo it wasn't a member of the C.I.S. #2 the trial for the Naboo blockade/Invasion ended years before AOTC, it was no longer relevant as punishment had already been given out after Nite Gunray had to testify before the galactic Senate. #3 The flaw in this I the disgusting investigation process that Obi goes through. Let's say an assassin tries to kill a U.S. senator so an FBI agent is investigating. That agent tracks that assassin to Mexico or something and once found the assassin flees to Russia. That FBI agent proceeds without authorization to go into Russia, THEN spies on a meeting within the executive branch of the Russian government (or whatever, I don't know how the Russian government works) then the Russians discover this spy, tries him and sentences him to death, then the United States launches a full scale invasion of Russia. Even though the FBI agent entered that foreign nation illegally and without any authorization and for some reason decided to spy on Putin in the Kremlin. That's basically what happened, Geonosis wasn't part of the republic, it was a foreign nation and Obi (as much as I like him) did something pretty shady... Oh then the US senator travels to Russia illegally, then murders a bunch of people (Anakin and Padme killed those bug people who were just defending their home)

@danamoore1788

4 жыл бұрын

@@codyrex0707 Except my understanding is it was not went to Russia. It was trail leads to Mexico. Find assassin working to make an army for US. Follow assassin to deserted section of Texas (Geonosis being in Republic space) And find senators conspiring with isolationist militias. FBI grabs army and heads into Waco to gunship rescue senator and agents. Civil war erupts.

@inmjoh

4 жыл бұрын

@@zkapsh as I remember it, it was a bounty hunter working with the kaminoins who just so happened to be hired by the Republic to make a slave army...

Sith are evil no doubt. Yet the jedi had a slave army.

@josh-kg1rb

4 жыл бұрын

The sith arent evil they are good your just influenced by jedi and rebellion propaganda

@jdssnake

4 жыл бұрын

@Nam Nugooyen so evil guy got it.

@zacharymorales1656

4 жыл бұрын

How are the sith good guys? All they want is power and willing to kill each other and anyone around them to get it.

@simpleclonetrooper2740

4 жыл бұрын

to be fair it was pushed on them without ther knowledge

@jasonskeans3327

4 жыл бұрын

That army belongs to the republic the jedi just were placed in charge

The CIS has always been one of my favorite Star Wars factions. I feel like without the Sith pulling the strings they could’ve become a strong, significant galactic power in their own right.

@samuelbishop3316

4 жыл бұрын

They would have won. Clones probably wouldn't have existed, and most nonclone armies were steam rolled by them. Not to mention they probably wouldn't have waged war to begin with.

@johnbaldauff5531

4 жыл бұрын

@@samuelbishop3316 I mean they only existed because of the sith

@festethephule7553

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnbaldauff5531 Well it's not as if the seperatist sentinents weren't present regardless.

@johnbaldauff5531

4 жыл бұрын

@@festethephule7553 it was made by decades of sith movements as stated in the Darth plagus book

@apatheticdeity6030

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they really need a spinoff where the CIS without outside influence, fights the Republic. That to me seems way more intriguing. In truth they already an extremely cool premise. A ragtag group of companies and planetary governments rebelling against the corrupt Republic. But instead, we have this... mess.

Video Title: The GOOD side of the separatists the writers never let us see The actual video: The BAD side of the republic the writers never let us see

@PugnaciousProductions

4 жыл бұрын

Jalan Rupert That's geetlsys for you, a bunch of clickbait

@jaylacke

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but there is some good stuff

@luciussulla2641

4 жыл бұрын

truth. I remember the Mando'a books by Travis (i think) were really interesting books not just because of the Mandalorian stuff (which was amazing), but because it also was one of the few sources that actually called out the Jedi and the Republic for being the "good guys" while literally being a faction that was mass breeding slaves to throw away in war, and how many jedi didn't even treat the clones as living beings. I also remember the series getting canceled because so many jedibois were salty and seething over the fact their favorites were getting called out.

@zodiacstarlegues

4 жыл бұрын

Well, the writers never actually wrote what citizens of CIS life are, and mostly focused on the republic.

@jcrews8582

4 жыл бұрын

Pugnacious Productions You want clickbait? Look no further than that ego-centric hack Star Wars Theory, who, when called out by a viewer for his clickbaiting, sicced his rabid fan base to verbally attack the viewer just for pointing out the cold hard truth!

If I recall correctly, the intro scroll of Revenge of the Sith states “there are heroes on both sides, evil is everywhere”.

@Geek3824

4 жыл бұрын

George A. Custer yep, end of the first paragraph.

@halopro8958

4 жыл бұрын

George A. Custer Such a shame that the line is often overlooked entirely by most viewers.

@enemyoftherepublic777

4 жыл бұрын

“Heroes on Both Sides” eventually became an episode of TCW.

@generalyido

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. IIRC that was the last sentence of the scroll.

@gumdeo

3 жыл бұрын

ROTS doesn't show us much in the way of CIS heroes.

The pure fact that B1 droids are so nice and respectful even sometimes to the enemy really showed to me that at least the Geonosians had the compassion to make the droids follow orders, but also at least make them personable and as polite as they can while following orders.

@501ststormtrooper9

4 жыл бұрын

“Roger Roger!”

@trexindominus8119

2 жыл бұрын

The geonosians are pretty cool once you ignore the zombies and the history

@Glorfindelfan1234

2 жыл бұрын

@@trexindominus8119 and their culture, language, customs... lmaoo

@iamthepersonwhoasked5639

2 жыл бұрын

Tbh b1 droids are much more compassionate and nice to the enemies then the clones were often this is why i would hope (in clone wars animated seris) that the droids sometimes won because they themselves act much nicer and more kinder to enemies then those rude and aggressive and mean clones were

@DrZeddy-wo5fd

Жыл бұрын

Roger roger.👍

The Separatists were good guys General Grievous would like to know your location

@bemotivated8443

4 жыл бұрын

When the trees start speaking clone

@obiwankenobi3529

4 жыл бұрын

Space Fortunate Son?

@blackshogun272

4 жыл бұрын

bemotivated *when snow on Hoth starts speaking with a British accent*

@JayF2912

4 жыл бұрын

*_THE CLONES WERE BORN MAADE TO SHOOT THE DROIDS, OOOHHH THOSE B1'S AND 2'S._* *_SOME CLONES WERE BORN WITH INTEEELLIGENCE TO SPAARE, OH THOSE ARKS AND COMAAANDO'S_*

@theguyintheworks8838

4 жыл бұрын

What are you talking about? The separatists are amazing! I fully support the separatists in the galactic civil war! Guyshelpmegreviousisrightbehindme-

Even Padme question whether or not they were on the right side. The independent systems themselves were good, but not the leadership.

Star Wars WHAT IF: what if tup killed anakin when his chip malfunctioned instead of master Tiplar?

@tarnyowl6068

4 жыл бұрын

Guess there would be no one to save or betray the emperor

@GeneralGrievous-1138

4 жыл бұрын

There is no timeline in which, even with the element of surprise, any clone kills the Chosen One. Plus, there's a strong likelihood that Anakin was exempted from the order in advance anyway.

@josh-kg1rb

4 жыл бұрын

Or he just blocks it and just cuts tups head off

@charleslindberg829

4 жыл бұрын

End credits?

@alexporter7379

4 жыл бұрын

I think it's pretty clear anakin was exempt. He was always to be the tool for the Emperor

I remember the beginning from the old battlefront games,man I miss those days

@Nate-ms4be

4 жыл бұрын

*ENEMY FORCES HAVE CAPTURED A COMMAND POST*

@Spongebrain97

4 жыл бұрын

@@Nate-ms4be hostile reinforcement count is diminishing

@derektrafford2911

3 жыл бұрын

WATCH THOSE WRIST ROCKETS

@johnjr9997

3 жыл бұрын

Watch out for those wrist rockets

@aleckowalski6035

3 жыл бұрын

If you ever wanted to take a trip down memory lane, I believe STEAM has both of the old battlefront games with still very active servers and mod developers.

The Battle of Jabiim is a good example of showing how the Separatists had helped worlds as well. After all, they had helped the Jabiim people in ways that the Republic didn’t.

@Luis-vy9bm

4 жыл бұрын

I loved these comics

@-CrimsoN-

4 жыл бұрын

Jabiim is like the Kuwait of Star Wars. Some insignificant little country that no one cares about until you discover that they are rich in oil fields beyond your wildest dreams. Then all of sudden, The Republic comes kicking the door down in the name of "freedom and democracy".

@marsar1775

4 жыл бұрын

@@-CrimsoN- oil?

@CollinMcLean

3 жыл бұрын

Well... yes and no... a good portion of the Pirates mentioned I think were funded by Separatists to further inflame tensions. Jabiim was already justifiably pissed but they wanted to give the planet a good push...

@KaiHung-wv3ul

Жыл бұрын

@@-CrimsoN- What? The Iraqis invaded Kuwait, the Americans (for oi....I mean"freedom and democracy" of course) helped Kuwait, which was a US ally. ......and Jabiim was like 1000000 to the power of infinity levels of tougher.

I would argue in the legends canon grievous wasnt exactly "evil" just very hateful, but then disney went and turnt him into skeletor

@aarondevaldez9134

4 жыл бұрын

Disney perpetuating and exacerbating the unfair and asinine light/dark polarization with no respect for, oh I don't know, reality and the complexity of the individual. They took a character rich with back story and made him a cardboard cutout.

@James-pt2vk

4 жыл бұрын

@@aarondevaldez9134 it honestly breaks my heart seeing what they did to grievous.

@aarondevaldez9134

4 жыл бұрын

@@James-pt2vk Mine too.

@spideysg1163

4 жыл бұрын

FatGuySurprise Disney didn’t make the clone wars and what did they do to grievous?

@spideysg1163

4 жыл бұрын

Grievous is evil Long live the republic and the senate!

One thing that really stood out to me watching TCW is that CIS droids were always willing to take prisoners. On the flip side, the Jedi frequently used that mercy against them.

@RexMK-

2 жыл бұрын

This is even funnier if you take into account that the Republic would usually claim that some separatist were monsters brcause they were willing to kill surrendering enemies ... When the republic troops and even the Jedi themselves had a kanc for using fake surrender tactics during all of the clone wars and thus giving the CIS a very valid reason on why not to take prisioners as they might part of a trap. In fact is extremely surprising that after the first 2 times the CIS din't juat started to kill all surrendering ememies and keep taking surrendering adversaries as prisioners rather than just kill them.

@iamthepersonwhoasked5639

2 жыл бұрын

I think faking surrender is a war crime

@RexMK-

2 жыл бұрын

@@iamthepersonwhoasked5639 It is anf there is a good reason for that. If one faction starts using fakes surrenders to the point the other faction starts to take heavy losses from this, is very likely that eventually the other faction will start killing surrendering enemies from prevent this from happening again given that the enemu is willing to abuse the humantariam treatment given to POWs. And this eventually is a peoblem when other soldiers on your side want to actually surrender. Faking surrender is a very serious war crime because a false surrender can cause a snowball effect that usually results in the war becoming more violent and brutal.

@iamthepersonwhoasked5639

2 жыл бұрын

@@RexMK- well i guess in that case since droids are always too kind to accept surrenders and clones are too cruel to always trick through surrenders ig it wont happen in star wars tbh this type of unfair inhumane stuff from the "gOoD" republic kinda makes me happy that hypocritical jedis were killed the clones were slowly got ridden of and the system went through a clensing through the empire

@RexMK-

2 жыл бұрын

@@iamthepersonwhoasked5639 Yeah the Jedi were WAY out of touch with everything that was happenkng outside their temple. Fun Fact: There were some Jedi that were even unaware of the reasons of why the Separatist wanted sescesion from the republic. Like they were IGNORANT of how half of the galaxy lived in the most absolute missery.

I forget the name of the Clone Wars episode but the one that featured the Separatist Senate with Dooku’s hologram leading the debates and being amicable was interesting. While the CIS senate was making plans to bridge a peace with the Republic and actually work through their issues, the real evils of Dooku and Sideous were hard at work sabotaging these efforts and making the CIS look worse and worse. All these worlds that left the Republic wanted was a voice, which they felt wasn’t heard at all, and these Sith made sure that whatever they had to say fell on deaf ears.

@wordlesslfiddling

4 жыл бұрын

Heros on both sides i believe though im not sure

@redforest9269

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Heroes on both sides; Geetsly's said so in the video.

I would love a story from the Separates perspective and see General Grievous as a Hero/Liberator that would be interesting to see.

@aarondevaldez9134

4 жыл бұрын

I'm working on something like that.

@rosanirodrigues557

4 жыл бұрын

Aaron deValdez Really where? I check your channel and you don’t have any videos on KZread, do you have another account perhaps? Please let me know.

@trexindominus8119

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe it can be told from the perspective of a b1 battle droid

@ghr501able

Жыл бұрын

@@aarondevaldez9134 are you writing fanfiction

@aarondevaldez9134

Жыл бұрын

@@ghr501able Yes. But admittedly it's been a while.

I wish more shows explored the crazy idea that sentient lifeforms and their societies are far complex than "we good, they bad. We only do good things, they just evil"

@MrFredstt

4 жыл бұрын

Same. I feel a lot of Star Wars falls into that very simplistic black and white worldview.

Wait hold up. Look into grevious backstory just like jango their dislike of the Jedi is for good reason

@James-pt2vk

4 жыл бұрын

In legends only sadly....his canon origin now is that he wanted to be a jedi and got told no so he threw a massive bitch fit. Much prefered his legends origin

@Mgauge

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe, but his acts weren’t confined to the Jedi. He slaughtered billions with his tactics.

@Eli-akad

4 жыл бұрын

Geostomp a lot of his actions were just what came from war. Plus his masters were who were really running what was going on. When it comes to war there’s really no rules

@MrFredstt

4 жыл бұрын

FatGuySurprise Please tell me that’s not actually his canon backstory and you’re just joking

@frankg2790

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrFredstt The Huk War is Canon and Grievous developed his vendetta because the Republic sided with the Huk.

Suppose there are still space hicks on backwater worlds with heavily modified spaceships with massive CIS flags chanting “The Seps will rise again!!” ??

@RiceCubeTech

4 жыл бұрын

The cis remnants became the rebels

@matthewfulton4172

4 жыл бұрын

Ya got damn right ya fuckin Yank the Sou... i mean the Seps will rize agian

@chadthundercock4806

4 жыл бұрын

They did rise again and won

@suspicioususer

4 жыл бұрын

They hack into Imperial ships PA system and blast Dixie as they attack

@charlottewalnut3118

4 жыл бұрын

Will Meyers course we will the Anzat will crush all of the empire

oh; I assure you Grievous is not actually evil.... He's more like a really, really tragic character with a broken will and basically mindwashed...

@blackshogun272

4 жыл бұрын

OOM- 32 and when he gets to kill the people that let his world suffer, he lets loose his psychopath for a while. Which is all well deserved since he basically lost his family, love, and honor to a corrupt government that basically spat in their face for help and listened to the horrible lies of the Huk. Grievous honestly coulda been a great Jedi had he been more attuned with The Force.

@XplodingTurtle

4 жыл бұрын

Still evil

@arno7163

4 жыл бұрын

@@XplodingTurtle well from general grievous's point of view the Jedi are evil. And he did have a point If a government did nothing to help your people, and you help yourselves only for the aggressors to get help from the very same government who are supposed to intergalactic peacekeepers ( with the Jedi order). And afterwards the sanctions they put on his poeple caused them poverty and some died of starvation. The Jedi grew arrogant and short sighted. They to grievous became the very thing they wanted to destroy.

@XplodingTurtle

4 жыл бұрын

Anouk Amerasekera atleast the jedi didnt kill anyone who crossed their path. And the jedi cant really do anything with the republic breathing in their necks

@adriannalockhart9639

4 жыл бұрын

Also, in legends the Seps fucked with his brain when he was cyborged to make him more animalistic. Not sure if that’s still canon.

What where the Seperatist fighting for? „Acording to my programming: freedom from the tyranny of the republic.“ (General Kalani)

But was General Grievous really that evil? He got screwed over by the Republic and the Jedi, causing many of his people to die out. He was pretty justified for acting out.

@Spongebrain97

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah he seems warranted at first but he literally goes about killing innocent people who are in the way and doesnt feel remorse. He's a guy who would destroy a republic hospital without hesitation. It's like how with the Haitian revolution the slaves overthrew their masters but then went on a rampage and killed every white person they could find even if those people weren't slave owners

@NoBody-lj5xh

4 жыл бұрын

Acting out does not equal commiting xenocide.

The separatists have always been my favorite faction in Star Wars. I’ve always found them to be the most interesting of all the factions from the main six eras

The CIS was the Rebel Alliance of the Clone Wars.

The CIS were good guys who were unknowingly playing into Palpatine’s hands.

@gumdeo

3 жыл бұрын

It would all have been different if Dooku was not a traitor to the CIS.

Grevious legends wise was also a result of a tragic backstory and sith brainwashing

Video idea: Where any Jedi exempt from Order 66 besides Anakin?

@josh-kg1rb

4 жыл бұрын

No

@charleslindberg829

4 жыл бұрын

Dude shut up.

@josh-kg1rb

4 жыл бұрын

@@charleslindberg829 no u

@samuelyoung5664

4 жыл бұрын

no

@lunr2385

4 жыл бұрын

Bro he is just making a Idea you don't need to be jerks about it

"Oh no, general grievous is so evil" meanwhile palpatine sipping his tea at republic hq

The good side of the Separatists was definitely not the Senate.

@maximumeffort7096

4 жыл бұрын

It was the other Senate XD

The Techno Union just wanted to rave.

@trexindominus8119

2 жыл бұрын

Ya, and make robots

4:47 “ravaging the rim” Geetsly 2019

@BenniRoR

4 жыл бұрын

I'd ravage Rey's rim. That was kinda tryhard, I know.

@BenniRoR

4 жыл бұрын

@Overkill XJ Mmmm, Padme...

@spartanwar1185

4 жыл бұрын

@@BenniRoR Rey is a frickin' mary sue though...

@BenniRoR

4 жыл бұрын

@@spartanwar1185 So? That does not disqualify her from a healthy attack on the rim.

@alphamega8660

4 жыл бұрын

BenniRoR ­ agreed

the clones in a nutshell “we live as slaves to fight in somebody else’s war another day”

Grievous being evil is a stretch. After what the Jedi did to him, it’s understandable why he became the monster he did.

@rturae

4 жыл бұрын

Understandable sure but his actions are still evil. The same can be said about Vader

@condedooku9750

4 жыл бұрын

It is curious but the corruption and ineffectiveness of the republic created General Grievous and Dart Tyranus ...

@brandonmaster7901

Жыл бұрын

@@rturae you also have to keep in mind that Dooku and Sideous manipulated his mind to make him more aggressive and violent when they were installing all his cybernetics.

@oilybat3269

Жыл бұрын

Oh boo hoo my body is shattered. That doesn’t give you an excuse to massacre innocents.

This is one of the reasons why I side on the Confederacy of independent systems / the Separatist Alliance , being my favorites out of any of the factions in Star Wars.

8:06 why does the space man have a FN P90?

@droidwave5215

4 жыл бұрын

Wtf 😂

@Fluffy52600

4 жыл бұрын

Most Star Wars guns are real guns. The Sterling and the C96 (Han Solo's blaster) being the most blatant.

@SkitGaming

4 жыл бұрын

Gloryseeking Spaceman also the T-21 used by the Empire is obviously a Lewis gun

@1Phase1

4 жыл бұрын

Because it looks cool. Imagine a P90 that can rapid-fire plasma bolts

@bastionunitb7388

4 жыл бұрын

Just fucking imagine that a blaster firing 50 shots the speed of the p90 That would be so cool

The story of Kalee was the best example of Republic incompetence and malice. It would be one thing if they just told the two worlds to play nice, but they actively sided with the side that was trying to _enslave_ the other. Even though Palpatine probably made this so, he would still have to get _someone_ within the republic to put forward that specific plan, and then convince enough people to go through with it.

I agree!! The separatist and sith were two different factions!! I saw that in the clone wars tv show!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️

I actually like the CIS/Trade Federation

@501ststormtrooper9

4 жыл бұрын

The CIS is also other factions.

In my point of view, the Separatists are the good guys in the Clone Wars.

When I was younger, I considered the empire to be the new republic, and the rebels the new separatists.

@---lf5rf

4 жыл бұрын

Well in legends the seps kinda are because many former seps later joined the rebelion

I have always thought a interesting direction for a trilogy to go is that the regular people to finally become fed up with both the sith and jedi and start actively hunting them down with the goal of wiping out all the force sensitives due to how much blood they have on their hands.

@innocentspringrain729

Жыл бұрын

You could have a bounty hunter as the main character

@ColonelBragg

Жыл бұрын

@@innocentspringrain729 Or something like the sentinels from days of future past.

The Republic Senate wants to know your location

One thing I'd like to note it their use of droids rather than actual individuals for fighting more humane by far

Love your channel man keep on doing what your doing!

For the Confederacy of Independent Systems!!

They were the good guys CHANGE MY MIND

@simpleclonetrooper2740

4 жыл бұрын

war crimes commited by both parties

@JamesJJSMilton

4 жыл бұрын

@@simpleclonetrooper2740 republic propaganda

@simpleclonetrooper2740

4 жыл бұрын

@@JamesJJSMilton truth.

@simpleclonetrooper2740

4 жыл бұрын

@Sakkra101 exactly

@aarondevaldez9134

4 жыл бұрын

Roger Roger

I actually love the idea of driods army!. Cheaper and driods suited for all different hazards planets.if general g was and did played important part and he made more trades as some wherent giving enough of one things as some didn’t have enough armor tanks etc or some had huge naval but no troops and driods had small advantages of space of space battles. And I agree that rebuilcwasn’t the good guys we thought.

This is why I liked the prequels and the clone wars era, because of the political and power dynamics in the world.

The CIS were actually the good guys.

@cornblaster7003

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they were just a proto rebel alliance with a lot more funding

The outer rim will rise again!

There were heroes and villains on both sides. The Republic had brave commanders such as Captain Rex, but also corrupt or bad commanders such as Pong Krell. The Separatist Senate was composed of decent people that truly wanted the planets of the CIS to change for the better, but the CIS was also plagued by greedy businessmen like Nute Gunray. The problem of the CIS is that their villains were more apparent than their heroes.

To be honest Grevious' bloodlust is understandable, since pre-cyborg, he was a commander who protected his species from the Huk who wanted to enslave his people. And when he started pushing them back the Republic sent Jedis which screwed it all up and made the Khaleesh seem like the bad guys. And after that he did get convinced that the Jedi were the ones who bombed his ship, and knowing that he already hated the Jedi it makes sense how he believed that.

“Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hatred, hatred leads to the dark side” The Jedi are scared of chaos, they have in their mantra “there is no emotion, there is the force” yet all the early Jedi live for is to make sure peace is secured and happiness prevails. They try to think of themselves objectively neutral yet they fear the dark side to their very core. Their talk of peace is just a facade, just a mask to hide their emotions behind before they all fell to their knees in due time. *join the dark side, we have cookies*

@Private-Potato

4 жыл бұрын

You have me sold

@goldedrag111

3 жыл бұрын

I'll never join you!!

@trexindominus8119

2 жыл бұрын

Tactical unit AD-97 active and ready for deployment

@pustota7254

2 жыл бұрын

Pustota7254 has joined dark side.

Absolutely amazing, thank you. On e you realize the all the events across Star Wars are part of the sith grand plan everything becomes grey.

The CIS is my favorite Star wars faction. (If you couldn't tell from my profile pic lol)

Now just imagine if there were no Sith meddling during the Clone Wars. How interesting would these stories be then?

@blecao

2 жыл бұрын

there woukd be no war, the republic had no clone army without thw sith and the separatist doesnt have a hand blocking theyr projects the cis wins

@KaiHung-wv3ul

Жыл бұрын

@@blecao But many of the corporations would not have joined the CIS due to lack of the Sith making them less powerful and less likely to fight against the Republic. So while the Separatists would still have some droids, it wouldn't have been nearly to the same extent, while the Clone Army would be none existent. Interesting what would have happened in that case.

Yes. The writers. The true villains.

I found your second channel The Front on my own and tbh it’s one of the better quality History channels on KZread. Keep up the great work bro👍🏼

With the "Attention! Sergeant on deck!" It might be cool to have the sound of soldier's boots as they come to attention right afterwards. Love the map zoom intro, and everything about your videos. Keep up the great work! Is there any EU content that explores the earlier/nicer elements of the CIS? It seems as though we do lack too many details, and I suppose this era didn't have too much exploration until the prequels came out... at least not accurate info if I remember correctly from other awesome youtube SW content... It would have been nice if Grievous wanted a hug lol.

The dichotomy in the Clone Wars is this: The Republic has a corrupt government but, generally speaking morally conscious army; while the Separatists have a righteous government, but morally bankrupt army.

@themecha47

Жыл бұрын

their army was not morally bankrupt. Only a few commanders and the droids on dookus direct leash were. Trench fought fair, umbarans fought fair, droids would offer clones FAR MORE OFTEN THAN NOT a chance to surrender to be POWs.

Something that’s been rattling in my head, when Rex removed his chip why didn’t he tell anakin about it to back up 5s’ story

This video is kinda old now but just watched you again in a long time keep up the good content you're one of the best Star Wars youtubers

Amazing video man

I'm hoping in the Cassian Andor TV series we get to see his childhood and the perspective of the Separatist since he was a Separatist during the Clone Wars.

Hmm this has me thinking about if they ever choose to do a flip perspective where we see things from the viewpoint of the separatists. I honestly wonder how true that’d be to real life. I mean just look at Canada and how the western part of the country wants to split from the eastern side due to economics and whatnot. Ontario and Quebec is literally our inner system.

Great video. There’s always two sides to conflicts

10:00 I would LOVE to see how these two halves of the Alliance butted heads with each other, maybe in the upcoming Andor series?

8:13 My dude is packing a blaster P-90

They killed my clone brothers by that thousands every day. End of story

I love the description of the video lol

Greedy corporations turning evil and committing war crime? WHAT A TWIST!

"While nobody is denying the evil of general grevious, the sith, or the separatist council..." *Raises hand* I am though, at least the last one-

@matthiuskoenig3378

4 жыл бұрын

yeah the council wasn't evil, just war profiteers and greedy.

@defunctaccount8972

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthiuskoenig3378 that’s why they’re evil

Cis: were good guys. The droid army testing wepons in habitual places taking inacent lives

@matthiuskoenig3378

4 жыл бұрын

to be fair so did the republic...

@SteelerFan716

4 жыл бұрын

*Habitable* and *Innocent* Are you willfully stupid? Autocorrect should have saved you with both words.

8:10 Not sure what I'd do if Geralt came at me with a P90 and a goddamn Luger in a galaxy far far away.

The prequels were an excellent lesson in civics. How all of the decisions made appeared to be so right a the time. Only to find out both sides were on strings being pulled by one person / entity. (Democrips and Rebloddlicans anyone?)

I always sympathized with the Confederacy. When I was really young, I always the droids were cute. As I grew older, and started looking into the story of Star Wars, General Greivous became my favorite character. Now, me as an intellectual, know a lot more about Star Wars than I used to, and I know of the initial intentions of the Separatists, and I sympathize with it. Also, their Navy is dope AF. I still think clones are badass though.

@simpleclonetrooper2740

4 жыл бұрын

Dwarf Spider Droids and Crab Droids were always my favorite clankers

@HerrZhukov

4 жыл бұрын

SimpleCloneTrooper my fav separatist vehicle is either the aat, mtt, trifighter, or hailfire droids

@simpleclonetrooper2740

4 жыл бұрын

@@HerrZhukov Hyena Bombers are sick too

@HerrZhukov

4 жыл бұрын

SimpleCloneTrooper ye. My fav navy ship is Providence. It’s my fav ship in all of Star Wars

@cboyce653

4 жыл бұрын

Nathaniel Hill I always liked the destroyer droids :)

The clones were technically enslaved child soldiers so hmm

Why did the Galactic Senate allow corporations to have representation?!

Grevious was a lot like Ghengius(I Probably misspelled that) Khan. He screwed over anyone who resisted and was brutal in tactics. But to his own people, the CIS people, he was actually nice

The Seppies are suprisingly a lot like the Zeons of the Gundam franchise, both comitted unspeakable atrocities and had evil people (The Sith, Zabi Family) leading them, evil people who hijacked independence movements.

Anyone ever think that things in Star Wars could have played out more interestingly if it wasn't all linked back to a Sith plot?

Everyone says that a ton of Separatists and Separatist assets became part of the Rebel Alliance. The only examples in Canon and Legends combined are one carrier's worth of starfighters, one or two characters, and a couple cruisers.

Jeez your intro is actually dopee

What did the separatist parlament think of Grievous?

@solsunman383

3 жыл бұрын

This is unsupported by any evidence but very likely as a necessary evil. To counteract the overwhelming and underhanded tactics of the republic (for example, Anakin abusing a parlé and attacking during a truce or the assassination of a CIS Senator), I'm sure the Parliament supported some of Grievous' more extreme measures as a necessary escalation. However, there were very likely many individual members of the Parliament who abhored his brutal ways but were powerless to act, due to their power being sidelined. Furthermore, the CIS had a strong hold on propaganda and it's very unlikely that many of the true attrocities were distributed to the Parliament and instead only known to members of the Separatist Council. As such, I'm sure Grievous was very likely seen as a war hero throughout the CIS, much as Anakin was in the Republic. However, in truth, both were actually being shaped into genocidal maniacs by the horrors of war.

The faction that included the Bonteris was the best CIS faction.

You earned a like just for that bf1 clip edited in the intro alone lol

Droids bring peace while the clones invade planets and destroy homes

The seperatists were good. Their Military etc was bad, just as you said.

their was a blaster verion of the fnp90?! 8:11

@ahrixxoxo1698

4 жыл бұрын

this is the only thing i could find on it: The FN P90 was a submachine gun manufactured by Oriolanis Defense Systems and used by the New Republic. not sure how valid this is though

@robnelson9517

4 жыл бұрын

Nice.

@bonydanza7046

4 жыл бұрын

Oh, for fuck's sake

@theleetworldbest

4 жыл бұрын

And literally Luger P08 next to it.

@Fluffy52600

4 жыл бұрын

Han Solo uses a C96. And many soldiers (all sides I think) use a Sterling.

Now that's great world building! Having the separatists as the adversary and hero in due time.

These illuminating videos are like Star Wars Change My Mind.

Did anyone in the Senate see through Palpatine (aside from Padme and Organa)?

@Sleeper800

4 жыл бұрын

Mon Mothma did I would say.

@knivesmillions2913

4 жыл бұрын

@@Sleeper800 She was in the Senate during the Clone Wars era?

@Sleeper800

4 жыл бұрын

@@knivesmillions2913 She was the senator of Chandrila during the Clone Wars, yes. She appears in a deleted scene with Padme and Organa in Revenge of the Sith.

@knivesmillions2913

4 жыл бұрын

@@Sleeper800 I did not know that she was there during the clone wars I thought she was elected during the initial rise of the empire.

i want to see shows/movies that invert the original and the prequel trilogies showing the perspective of the written evils. seeing the people who we are told to not care about also go through the same if not worse experiences at the hands of the corrupt republic or the effects of the destruction that the rebels caused would show that the way things were handled were horrid on both sides.

Mr Geetslt's; Sir I agree for the most part. As in the example of old Rome. It was not an event but process. It failed from within. As is all great society a rise then a steady decline. Symptoms of empire and greed by a few. Then of taxation without representation goes. An industrial complex is created that benefit the elite who think there above the law. Until a single unifying person or people comes along and says "wait hold on let's think this situation thur. Look what they have done to us we can change all this" "Will you join me?

star wars has become real life; change my mind lol.

Would like to see a show or mini series about life on the side of the CIS I hope the casian Andor series delves into it a bit.

at 8:21 got say, never seen a p90 turned into a star wars gun, been surprised by it, atleast finally seen it lol

It be cool if there were a story where the clones over power their controlling chips and the droids somehow develope an Advance A.I that they make an alliance with the clones and they both end up destroying the jedi and sith.....

The Seperatists were my favorite of the two factions. Despite the Sith and General Grevious, I think they led a more moral war using droids. They didn’t put their people in danger or make an army of slaves.

@matthiuskoenig3378

4 жыл бұрын

they do use volunteer units of organics, but useually in defensive opperations

@trexindominus8119

2 жыл бұрын

Plus they recycled the droids that got killed