What if Shinsu is a kind of medium that both breathes life into Administrators and Shinhueh, while also acting as a medium for the Tower's will itself? What if the Tower is underwater on the Outside?? Share your thoughts and theories!

@LuizHenrique-uc7lq

Жыл бұрын

E se a "torre de Deus" for como um aquário? Isso com certeza explodiria minha cabeça, mas com certeza não me deixaria revoltado, porquê teria muito sentido. Todos os elementos da torre, como o shinsuo, os monstros e animas da torre... agem como suporte para essa teoria doida e isso é insano

@nanunutsunl5345

Жыл бұрын

Hey Joe I just wanna say thanks for getting me into tog I rly appreciate it and I love it truly. John 3:16 For God so loved the world,that he gave his only begotten Son that whoever believeth him should not perish,but have everlasting life Pls repent of your sins and turn to the Lord Jesus he took your punishment and he LOVES you hope this helps shalom

@MarijnvdSterre

Жыл бұрын

I think it is a tower under water, only upside down. That is why the "higher" you go, the denser the Shinsu. And what if the purpose of the tower is just to grow (like a plant). The familie leaders where suppose to transform into administrators and add new floors. That is why they where gifted immortality. (well, maybe not all of them). That is why they stopped climbing the tower, they couldn't really. Not unless taking the position of administrators. Because they kept putting it off, the tower is looking for a way to force them or an alternative to be able to grow. (Or maybe it is in the fase of able to produce "fruit/seeds" to be the base of new towers...) I know this theory would need some work, but I do like it ^^

@LuizHenrique-uc7lq

Жыл бұрын

@@MarijnvdSterre a ideia da torre de cabeça para baixo é muito boa

@user-fp3in2kf3b

Жыл бұрын

More likely there is Civil War between Administrators. Part of them support FUG and another support Jahad

I think that Headon and the other Administrators are disappointed in the lack of progress in climbing the tower since it's about 20,000 years since the system was established. Jahad said his son would continue to the climb in his stead, but he has yet to take a Queen and actively sabotaged the Princess of Jahad system to prevent himself from having to marry, because he is still in love with Arlen.

@setsuna9177

11 ай бұрын

simp

@marcpozzebon1162

10 ай бұрын

unless jahads son is Rachel

@spaceturtle8889

10 ай бұрын

​@marcpozzebon1162 oh shit. Maybe he raped Arlene in an act of vengeance or something

@Seattletyy93

10 ай бұрын

I haven't read in a long time, so I dont remember or never learned, but why does the King allow others to ascend? He stopped progress at the top, what does he gain from strangers ascending to him? To gain new followers? Why did he take over testing otherwise?

@hungrytshirt

4 ай бұрын

​@@spaceturtle8889Rape is too dark a subject matter for even SIU. But besides that, if that were the case Rachel would have no reason to be inferior to Bam in any way. She'd be Enne Zahard to the nth degree, she'd be dragging bam and Company along as companions without ever needing to betray any of them. Then again as a thought experiment when has power made anyone a better person? I'd think she'd be a lot like Tramurie when it comes to Bam. He'd belong to her like he used to and she'd shut out the likes of Khun from ever establishing a connection with him. Harwayun would stay with her if only because of Bam and Fug would have a harder time getting to him because Rachel is still a schemer and Bam himself would start growing his strength (albeit slower).

Something that should be mentioned is that, the only person who killed a admin was Enryu. And he only entered becouse of Jahad, without jahad's shenenagins they would never have feared for their life but now it can happen, they can die.

@jessicaabel3481

Жыл бұрын

He came because Arlene said she would give anything to ressurect his son. Then Enryu was sent to send a message to the admin and delivring the thorn when Baam will be re-entering the tower and ''devour it'' so the outside god wish will be completed. Crazy how after a decade + we are still far away for any of this ahha

@aquamentos

11 ай бұрын

Well...That's only because Phantaminum didn't feel like doing it, if he wanted he could have literally destroyed the tower...

dawg the world of tog is insane, there is so much to talk about with so much lore/history and it feels like we're not even halfway through the story.

I think the administrators feel they were wrong in letting Jahad become king of the tower. Even the God of the Guardians on the Hell train said Jahad changed. So they’re using Baam to “set the tower free” idk exactly what that means yet though

@santiagoteruel4145

9 күн бұрын

Have been reading another story of the same universe, and it seems possible the administrators of tog, or atleast headon want people to climb higher in the tower

@Allrounderok

3 күн бұрын

​@@SubliminalScientistits a korean secret story that siu wrote That gave away too much about tpg

The thing I love about TOG is the fact there’s almost no way to scale any of them accurately cause Lore wise they do some crazy stuff 😭

@Thatfan864

9 ай бұрын

Multi continental with nigh omnipresent speed for the administrators

@OmgJinnn

9 ай бұрын

@@Thatfan864 that isn’t true if you read the lore literally all of the original irregulars did feats that put them boundless or outer if you lowball especially urek Mazino and jahad

@OmgJinnn

9 ай бұрын

@@Thatfan864 it’s hard to scale them because the lore literally shows them transcending concepts or straight up erasing some of them

@OmgJinnn

9 ай бұрын

@@Thatfan864 the administrators are stronger on different floors as well making it even harder to scale accurately if I’m being honest ion think we’ll be able to do accurate scales until the end of the series

@Thatfan864

9 ай бұрын

@@OmgJinnn I guess that could be said but I’m not gonna lie the only character that could be outer is phantaminum

I never really thought of the administrators in this way. This should really be more talked-about

@revenantronin8377

Жыл бұрын

Same... they can only be explained as administrators if you think about it. They're kinda like angels that guide humanity to God. A good example of this is the Celestials from Marvel, or the Monitors of DC... they're not exactly "gods" but from the perspective of a normal existence, they might as well be gods.

I have the feeling that while administrators follow in general the tower's will they also have personal agentas as well. They have different personalities and made different decisions. For example why only the 100 floor admin offered an immortality contract to the family heads? The second floor admin might have made a rebellious move by helping Bam, but we shouldn't forget that he let Evankhell be a floor ruler beforehand and liked Bam the moment he met him. No other administrator did any apparent rebellious move other than him and perhaps Headon. So i have a hard time believing that the floor administrators have one unbreakable common will but rather they follow some general rules with each admin having their own personal touch to them according to their personality. Additionally the 135th floor admin was hostile to the family heads unlike previous admins. To me they feel like the family heads, while they have common roots they have different perspectives and it seems apparent especially now that Bam showed up.

@varadsalunkhe9008

11 ай бұрын

yeah makes sense I mean in first few chapters you could see headon didnt want bam to go up the tower he even reinforced the black ball and made a creature strong enough to kill bam but bam went up the tower anyway so why would second floor admin help bam by sending evankhell

@timelord2745

11 ай бұрын

i suspect they are rivals

@Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken

10 ай бұрын

@@varadsalunkhe9008 Nah, Headon wanted Bam to climb. He even basically says once Rachael pushes Bam that the story is just beginning or something along that line. He knew that push is what would allow Bam to grow. Not even the push per say, but the betrayal.

Hi Doc, great vid. I read this interesting POV on Guardians on a Reddit post once: """ 7.3.1 Same goes for Admnistrators: they are pieces of software designed to keep the system flowing in their scope of the program (i.e. each floor). They are called administrators the same way your user session on your computer can be administrator, i.e. with full permissions. Administrators rarely intervene in the events of TOG because they're more background softwares of sorts, here to guarantee the integrity of the operating system (which is the Tower). Also, the contracts between Administrators and the 12 Great Warriors is nothing more than the administrators granting special permissions to some users who entered the Tower. The reason why no tower inhabitant can hurt Zahard after his contracts, is because they are NPCs that cannot violate the rules established by administrators of the program (like how Kirito can't attack Kayaba in Sword Art Online) . This is why external, non-NPC, real flesh-and-bones human - a.k.a "irregulars" - are needed to kill Zahard. Irregulars, i.e. real humans, are not bound to the rules of the Tower (like Neo in Matrix), because they are not NPCs: for instance, they do not need contracts to use shinsoo. I think the administrators being superusers is the reason why it seemed incredible that Enryu managed to kill an administrator: these guys are like the backbone of the tower, it seemed impossible that they would die. But Enryu being "the messenger of the God of the outside" (i.e. probably the messenger of an Axis), he could easily overpower the operating system and break it. Enryu acted like a sort of virus: it broke a critical part of the operating software, to the point that the 43rd floor of the Tower couldn't even regenerate itself, because the administrator is the software that is supposed to ensure the regeneration. I also think the reason why Headon keeps letting irregulars enter the tower, despite Headon being supposed to be subservient to Zahard (although the authority relationship is not clear between Zahard and the administrators), is because Headon is a software optimized to allow the emergence of the one true God, and with Zahard having abandoned this goal (maybe he lacked the qualification in the first place? We'll find out later in the story!), Headon keeps letting new candidates in. """ Source: www.reddit.com/r/TowerofGod/comments/sgs3kj/tog_ultimate_theory_why_does_the_tower_exist/

Tower of God is heavily inspired by the 2009 anime Tower of Druaga. If we see it in this context, it hints at the structure of the tower, on what is above the "last" floor and on why there are tests in the first place.

@PhenomUprising

Жыл бұрын

Source?

i think that at the start Siu wanted to make a story that would end in "axis there, axis here, strongest axis, bam becomes one, fights them, wins" but then he understood that it would've been pretty lame right? there's a whole lot of lore outside the tower, so it's strange that it doesn't even appear in tower of god (for now). Also, let's return on headon being a shark, in the tower the strongest shinheuh is the killer whale, that's where Adori's sobriquet comes from, Eurasia sobriquet is instead "great white shark". Supposedly in the towers (and sometimes in real life too) orca's predate sharks, meaning they're somewhat stronger. Wouldn't that imply that there's an administrator stronger than headon? (as he seems like the strongest) maybe last floor administrator? and returning to earlier, there are a lot of elements that we don't know much of in ToG that have connections with the outside, it seems like they will eventually have to be addressed in one way or another, that makes the story even more interesting. I'm talking about the outside god, enryu (that will appear one day or another), Arlene and her whereabouts, workshop ecc. they're too important to be left like they are right now. Also, there has been a theory going around for ages right now, what if shinsoo, (divine water) is the power and "area of control" of an axis? you know how it's called DIVINE water right? wouldn't that make sense? bear in minds that there are a lot of towers on ToG planet where the tower of god is located. all these towers could just be "tests". what if the only tower or one of the very few, to possess any type of power like shinsoo, is infact the tower of god? and maybe that's why Siu is showing it to us instead of the other towers. there's a whole lot of lore from other stories of Siu, and sometimes it gets really REALLY close to the tower of god, like the main event of all of those stories combined, happening on "earth" the planet of the tower. i know Siu said that he doesn't want to bring Axes into this story, but will he really not do it? i feel like he kinda has to now.

I think one thing I hope tower of god does more is if there are other strong species other then humans who have power in this tower. It should be really cool to see some diverse groups as we climb the tower

Also about the different positions, all of them have a name related to water or fish: Fisherman - hunt fish Spear bearer - spear fishing Wave controller - controls waves/shinsu Light bearer/Lighthouse keeper - lights the area making it easier to hunt, also lighthouse Scout - finds and tails enemies

I think some administrators could be working with fug for a change. I think that some administrators are not, that there are opposing sides. Opposing factions within the system of administrators would be a cool theme as well in the war.

I think the tower wants to remove jahad, or doesn't like what jahad has done. It chooses bam to defeat jahad or start progression of the tower and end jahad's reign. Headon and the adminstrators are supporting the tower's decision and choosing paths to help bam dethrone jahad. My guess is the tower is resisting jahad, because king jahad mentioned near end of hidden floor, that he is starting to control fate & potentially go against the tower. That's the only thing I could would have changed for the tower to try and remove jahad before he interferes with tower's duty (whatever it is).

This puts a lot of things into perspective ESPECIALLY when you consider Bam’s actual age and how just now he’s been found and given the chance to climb the tower. Is it ever stated how an irregular finds the tower? Because it feels like each May be different and Bam’s was out of pure will to find Rachel maybe?

With the existence of Enryu, I have the feeling that, if the tower is extremely old, the concept of killing administrators would be more common from 135th floor and beyond... In fact, I expect that there would be some irregular/climber that have grown powerful enough to outright replace administrators...

@aquamentos

11 ай бұрын

That might not be true, as it might not be related to Enryuu's own powers at all, Enryuu received a task from an "Outside God" which is believed to be an Axis User from the outside that isn't strong enough to break the Tower's Axis and get inside like Phanta did...He might have received an Axis from that Outside God which might or might not be the Thorn and that was what made it possible for Enryuu to kill the Administrator...

What if the purpose of the tower was to evolve everything that climbs to surpass godhood into something beyond like an AXIS and jahad stopped that and the tower is rebelling against it

Great Topic Joe, sometimes me and my friends like to theorize that Headon is the true villain of the story and if he was that would be pretty awesome, I also believed he might be the strongest administrator (for now) cuz honesty even today we dont know what is true extentions are.

@karaka2253

Жыл бұрын

Same, I think King Zahard is not the final villain but it would rather be The Outside God or Headon. For now I think Macseth and Phantaminum seem to be too neutral and mysterious to take this spot. V could have been great but he is dead (if he is Akryung then everything changes) Tu Perie Tperie could be a good contender tho.

@Remorsefulz

Жыл бұрын

@karaka2253 I definitely agree with those takes. It's great to hear from you again, Karaka

@karaka2253

Жыл бұрын

@@Remorsefulz thanks and same for you, you always have good takes on ToG 👍

@Remorsefulz

Жыл бұрын

@@karaka2253 haha thanks, you as well

I'd gotten a bit out of touch with TOG lately. This video reminded me, why I began loving it in the first place. The TOG world is a masterpiece to me!! Great Vid!

This is my favorite video you’ve made by far. This is some big brain stuff I NEVER considered. Thanks bro 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

You have no idea how much I adore your lore videos, missed them so much! They're amongst my favorite lore videos on youtube

I think SIU really tricked us with Headon. He seemed so antagonistic towards Bam when Bam took his test. But Headon said the test he gave was appropriate. At the time I think 99% of readers will assume Headon is lying. But look at what Bam is capable of now? What if that test was fair the entire time, especially considering he is the one to suggested Yuri give Bam Black March. Even further when you consider the possibility that Headon might have some sort of future sight like many other characters do. I think it’s interesting that the admins themselves have to follow rules to an extent. They have to test the irregulars and have to allow them to pass on from their floor if they pass. We know the tower has some sort of will to it but is it possible there is an actual conscious entity that set these rules up for them? It also goes beyond that though. Jahad and co were given items and seemingly had relationships with the admins when they climbed. Their role is one of servitude inherently, which kind of goes against their godlike nature. Their purpose and motivations are one of the biggest mysteries so far.

@WhitneyDahlin

8 ай бұрын

I really hope you're right and this isn't a GOT or PLL situation. Because I'm genuinely worried the writer has no idea how he's going to end the series. I can't tell you how many times I've gotten in to a really good story only for it to go downhill and be ruined at the end. Either because the author keeps dragging it out for far too long or because it abruptly ends. It's unfortunately really common in the short story horror community. You cannot start publishing a story, even if it's online, if you don't know how it's going to end and how the characters are going to get from point A at the beginning to point z at the end. Because if you don't know how the story is going to end you can't leave clues, you can't leave foreshadowing, you can't plan things out. It's just extremely obvious when an author didn't know how the story was going to end. The story isn't cohesive. If any future writers are reading this don't make this mistake. It will ruin your entire story. People can tell when you don't have any idea how the story was going to end. The walking Dead is another great example of this. Where the author just kept dragging it out for years and years and years before finally ending it when he got bored. That's why the first couple seasons were really good and then it just went downhill. If he had planned it out he could have ended it and it would have been remembered as one of the best shows ever. And now it's a joke, just like game of thrones, and pretty little liars, and supernatural, and lost, etc

My issue with the Rebellion thought is: Why? They have no reason to, they can just take the reigns back whenever they want. Unless the goal is to more specifically set up some sort of new regime.

I absolutely loved this video, it was so interesting. And even though i have thought of this point individually, the way you put them all inside the same frame was really interesting. Can't wait for the next video. I do think some of the Administratos are rebelling, specially Headon and the one in the second floor, but i think some Administrator would have a "none of my business" idea, and wouldn't agree with the "Administrator Rebelion" to call it somehow

We have to sorta think retroactively as to what the will of the tower before Jahad and when the deal was made with Jahad prior to any new wills. Since that might be telling of the situation since we'll have the pieces to work out what exactly the admins are planning here. So to start things off, the tower is a type of entity in which people from the outside can come in and seemingly become stronger as they progress through it ( we arent sure of any power they gain through the tower is allowed to leave with them, if they can leave at all). So the tower may have started off as a tool with the sole objective of creating stronger beings, for what purpose is unknown at this time and whether or not those selected willingly came in or were forced too. For all we know, the beings who failed to progress further just stopped and settled in the outer tower layer on which ever floor they were at, potentially being the ancestors of all the normal people who now just live and die in the tower generation after generation, completely forgetting their ancestor's origins to the outside. We really have no idea how long things have been like that with no one completing the tower, till Jahads crew came in and making it the furthest ever seen before ( floor 134). During this time, they grew stronger and even recruited people who were just living in the tower to continue climbing with them (presumably the decendets of past selected individuals were also given the right to climb, or might have needed Hedons permission like the current system of him selecting regulars from the residential areas of the tower to climb, not sure how they did that back in Jahad's crew early days). But at the end, even Jahad stopped climbing and apparently made a deal with the admins on behalf of the tower to just let them rule basically. Its also this time we see the cracks in the Jahad team as Arlene and Vi formed FUG and things were getting tense with the other members (they eventually sided with Jahad based on what we know, so a 11 v 2 situation) Vi and Arlene wanted to keep climbing, presumably so they can get to the top and maybe get back home since they might have just been kidnapped by the tower, that or they just wanted to reach the reward at the end of the tower if anything like that was promised (?). Jahad and the other family leaders effectively just settled as rulers, Vi dies and Arlene just peaces out of the tower some how with what we assume was dead baby Bam. The real question is what was the will of the tower to just allow Jahad seal the way to the upper floors and just halt all progress, and recycle through each generation of decedents of past climbers? If the original goal was to take in and create greater beings, this was not gonna aid in those plans. Maybe the tower saw promise in Jahad's group and they spun it as a way to just take a "small" break from climbing. They might have wanted a reward for making it the furthest anyone had ever made and the admins chose to humor the idea since so long as they cleared the tower, who cares if they take a break. Hell, with the new system, way more people were able to get as far as Jahad's team (which would lead to the establishment of the ranker system). So potentially more greater beings were gonna be created. A win-win, or at least it should have, since the Jahad's team just sat on their asses and played politics. Moving throughout the ages, we are basically in a stagnate system where nothing is advancing and the 10 families and other groups are just running amok in the tower for control. We do see some "irregualrs" pop in like Phantom, who just messed up Jahads palace and leaves, Enryu comes in to do the exact same thing but even more extreme on the floor of death by ultimatly killing one of the admins. Then we have Urek who wanted to find Phantom in the tower, but his immediate goal is to now get back out of the tower, and to do that, he's gonna need to get past Jahad and the seal placed getting to the next floors. So things have just gotten so hectic, that the will of the tower has changed and the good graces that were bestowed upon Jahad's team has soured. But what to do, they made a contract that was apparently so air-tight, the admins are just stuck with the current situation with no way of fixing this mess that they permitted to happen in the first place. Welp, here comes Bam, with the power to just absorb whats ever thrown at him and nullify magic. This is it, the chance the tower has been waiting for to get of those damned family heads and Jahad from preveting people from advancing and halting the creating of greater beings. So the admins may not be allowed to directly oppose Jahad, but they can make indirect use of FUG (the whole point of the org was to get passed Jahad and keep climbing) and us them to get Bam ready to fix the bug in the system. Thats kinda my guess on the whole situation at hand from start to finish and what the ultimate plans going forward, hope you liked the long read :D

‏‪13:40‬‏ for that I always asked myself why was the door that Bam opend on the floor? Was it because of his position or because the tower is underground (aka an ocean beneath) or is it in a completely different dimension. Urek said the outside is more vast but we don't know if there is one outside or multiple. Like Bam and Rachel came from outside but they don't have stars. They were in a place like tunnels but there are mountains? How? If it is a tower is it vertical or horizontal? Or is it like a planet with multiple layers and you start from the core until you reach the surface? A planet of water. Does Jahad and the others know what is the tower and how it is structured or are they oblivious like Bam and they started climbing it to explore it (Eduan said that Jahad is better as an adventurer than as a king) the water theme is very obvious to where I think SIU wanted to be a fisherman but didn't work out for him😅

@montee8817

Жыл бұрын

They said the outside god allowed

@asan7708

Жыл бұрын

And how did rachel get to the area where she's seen already with Bam at, you asked most of the good ones already though.

@Mitsuki_Yukito

Жыл бұрын

@@asan7708 Yep that too. But figured Arlen or someone related told her or something idk

man the divinity music always goes hard in these

Ghost being in Fug and ghost being related to headon was completely blank from my mind holy. This changes the way I see everything now

Needed a refresh on this series, your videos are serving me well!

i appreciate you putting this together in words. not many people properly cover this or god of highschool lore.

Speaking of "Gods", in my Vtuber Lore, I decided to introduce what could be the "devil" from outside of the Tower. If you work with this devil and make a contract... it's more of a curse than anything. It's so cool how we get to create new things in Tower of God fan made stuff like Towers & Gods etc. Your DND series inspires me! Ghost being V is a huge theory that would be so cool if true! Cause if he did commit suicide then maybe he was brought back to life as a... ghost! This was a great video, Joe! Super happy I was able to watch it! You rock!! ^^ ♡

Wouldn’t say that they are working with F.U.G but rather ensuring Bam brings change to the tower.

Yes! More of this content. Lately it’s just been reading. Love your doing more again.

The tower is just the backrooms upstairs area, bam no clipped into it

Very interesting thoughts Joe. Especiaclly with the administrators acting out the "will of the tower", maybe Jahads empire has gone too far. This is what I love about ToG, the mystery and lore

Joe casually dropping a bombshell of a theory and leaving everyones mind blown.

this is my first time ever being so early on a bonehead/tower of god video i was never caught up n i was like i cant watch that i could get spoiled but now im damn near cuaght up n this just feels amazing thank you bonehead n siu for what you all do

Hey, really nice analysis and cool questions. I really like your analytical approach. I feel similar vibes to MrMorJ for One Piece videos. Very nice work!

Hey I love this idea about the administrators are acting now to protect the tower, it goes very deep once you think about how long the 10 family heads have been there and how much potential damage they might have caused.

Been reading this for YEARS. My favorite series of all time.

If i had to theorize someting id probably just say the admins are pissed Jahad stopped climbing

Something that was has been bugging me is how the "higher" you are in the Tower, the shinsu (water) gets more dense... I have a feeling that this isn't really a "Tower" but what if it's and "inverted" tower? or in other words an abyss. I might add, the size of the administrator somewhat correspond to the towers floor as in the higher the floor or in this case the deeper the floor the more gigantic the administrator are (look up deep sea gigantism)

@christatum3045

7 ай бұрын

This is similar to the real life tower that inspired this story. The tower of babel was an attempt to reach heaven. In order to reach heaven you have to break through the firmament and go beyond the water. So you might indeed be on to something

Administrators are the fallen angels, they are being with immense power but are restricted by laws and a being that contains them within the tower. They seek to escape the tower and its control… irregulars are the key because they defy the tower and the God that controls it.

The thing about the Administrator when he fired Hansung and Evanhell from the floor of test to karaka's dimensions is always in my mind.... I always find it interesting... I always wondered why. But now That I see your point it makes me goosebumps a little.... What if just what if... Soooome Administrator isn't happy about Jahard's rule... And currently the Administrators are split into 3 types? The Ok with Jahards rule, the Neutral ones & the guys who are rebelling.... This means absolute chaos in the tower. but I also thought of another possibility.... We all knew from tidbits from the secret floor back in the train that Jahard used to be a Shounen protagonist type like a boy full of Adventure in his blood... But as he gained more & more power he started to act out of character. What if the tower thinks that jahard actually tricked them? After making that contact making him the king of the tower and immortal because of such contact the all being in the tower, the Administrators and the tower itself cannot touch Jahard at all.... And their only hope is to bet for an *outside* intervention or perhaps to more specifically an Unknown God from the outside to strong enough to break Jahard contact... Not to kill him specifically but destroy his contact would be enough. The tower is a series of tests that encourage people to go challenge the next floor upward the tower with a promise of fulfilling all that you desire once you reach the top thus people keep on climbing, despite the absolute hardship.... And yet only jahard and his companion reach the current highest floor floor 134 or 135 i think?.... Then refused to ascend any farther. Jahard basically Doped the tower, no one has able to reach the true top... Everyone is doomed to rot inside the tower without any hope of reaching the top... And the tower can't touch him cuz his the king of the tower, & no one can compete with him cuz his all powerful & immortal.... In a nutshell everyone is fcking doomed ahahaha

maybe the administrators can only give immortality to those who come from outside the tower

I had a similar theorie about the admin rebelling in the FB tog group. But I don't think all of them are rebelling, just Headon, the one on the second floor and maybe a few others. One admin is enough to defeat Jahad's empire so they don't need to wait for anything. The reason I think they are rebelling is whoever create them wanted the tower to be complete and Jahad is stopping that by locking the higher floors. Most other administrator probably don't want the tower to be complete because they don't know what will happen to them afterwards. Jahad also didn't stop the climb just to be king, he was terrified of whatever was up there.

Maybe the tower itself is like how Jahad is, giving out orders once in a while to the administrators who are supposed to follow them... Maybe the tower senses the tike for change and the administrators have been told to be a catalyst

I think the Tower might want to stop the 20k year stalemate Jahad created. If the Tower and Admins exist to test people and to be climbed it is not too far off that the current stagnation goes against its nature/purpose. At the same time Admins seem to have varying personalities, as an Admin made Jahad king while another stopped him from further climbing. Concerning Headon, he could very well be the Towers God or maybe just their right hand. Headon and the Admins are probably bound by some rules to not interfere directly, but if they truely are rebelling it would be weird to have Enryu kill one of them. Maybe not all Admins are rebelling or maybe there are even multiple factions trying to interfere with the Tower. That could also explain why Headon wanted to make Rachel the heroine. If Bam was sent by the faction of the God from outside the Tower, Headon could have taken that opportunity to put his own piece on the board by using Rachel.

It's implied that Administrators like the Red Thryssa are the same or similar to the Blue Thryssa, Ghost and the Devil(s) inside the living ignition weapons. We know that the Thorn was hollow and dead and required the Blue Thryssa to ignite it and that the Beniamino brothers use the halves of the devil to ignite the Ignition fluid in their bodies. We also that the seven swords from Cheonwha & Danwha's homeland were made from the splintered soul of a monster/demon that terrorized their homeland. SIU said that while Ignition weapons are described as weapons with a soul that its more accurated to describe them as weapons made using a special kind of Shinsu. Assuming these are all the same type of being albeit Administrator being larger in scale while Ignition weapons are bound to a person or object they would likely be sort of Metaphysical race possibly made from a special type of shinsu hence the shapeshifting and regeneration. Angels, Demons and Gods are known to possess these qualities, often taking the form of animals, hence why some these beings have animal-like or demonic qualities. Also remember that when the Administrator on the 43rd Floor died all the Shinsu not inside its body became toxic hence why everyone who survived moved there, so I could see Shinsu's true nature as a Demonic Miasma that is being purified or regulated by the Administrator to support life.

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I think the will of the tower is swayed by the intention of the regular and irregular goals during their time in the tower

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I think the are not directly working with FUG, I think they are moving the pieces in a way to favor FUG cause the board is way too stacked to Jahad rn and they want Bam to mature as well I guess

What if the 135th floor is headon's and the test is to defeat him...

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I just realized headon looks like the god mechs from the end of eva. He even has the cross on his chest! SIU probably based headon on eva concepts

enryu with the glasses on, haha, that was pretty good

I left a comment on your last video about irregulars and I would like to collect some thoughts about it from not only you, but everyone else here in the comment section as well, because after I thought about that it kept bugging me ever since, mainly because I don't have any leading theories.

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had a coffee time with SIU and just to let you know that this theory is in the right way. There's a long way til the top... maybe administrators are missing their creator... Maybe they planned to use an ambitious child as a sacrifice to make the real human being who could change the situation from the tower to the place he was supposed to get to. Perhaps the administrators pulled strings so that the chosen one would go up to Zahard to remove him from the throne, and return the natural purpose of the tower's existence.

I think phantamanium , other axis outside of tower , above 135th floor probably king of administratior .

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man i love that theorie that phantamanium and enryu are above the 135th floor and cause jahad coult not pass the floor he sealed it for everyone else

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@@Scratto doubt it , phanta is an axis , he couldnt care less and enryu only entered the tower to drop the thorn

Heidon would come close to a evolved humanoid catfish

Bro, tbh the flowers blow as Zahad and the crew went up ... before that it was said to be like hell, or something like that! They went to Karakas heart because of what was happening on Karakas side tho, they were in danger... Evank used it to wrap, so reinforce the battle field, u kind of took outta of context here... Its nice to see someone doing Tower of God content, this is rare to see!!! Really nice!

If there's an outside world from the tower, couldn't there be more towers out into the world

Excellent vid! But I lost something? Why exactly admins rebel via some weird shenanigans with Bam and FUG? Why can't they rebel explicitly, if they are the WILL of the Tower? Because of the immortality contracts?

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I have a question. It is implied in the story that irregulares can break spells? Causa i thought baam could do it because Arlene put a spell in him much stronger than any other in order to preserve his body. In that way baam's resistence to spells is becausa Arlene. What you think?

It's probably not a good idea to lump TUS into this but I can't help myself. The way Siu describes Axis fields in the TUS comic and blogposts is that it is the power to be compared to god. And that within that field their power is absolute and cannot be erased by any non-Axis. So I wonder if Shinsu, the shinhueh and the administrators are all part of Phantaminum's Axis abilities. Or maybe another Axis, since there is a bunch of towers in the TUS story called "The Towers of Attrakion" or "flower stalks". With no known entry or exit. So maybe an ancient axis in the TUS universe created all the Towers and they all have shinsu. Or maybe a lot of different Axes collaborated making the Tower. Though lumping all of this in with TUS and Axis stuff might not be worth much since it's debatable if anything TUS related besides Phantaminum is considered cannon. Really good ideas here about the Tower's will making Admins rebelling. I wondered if the administrator's are upset that Jahad stopped climbing and that is against the purpose of the Tower in the first place.

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The administrators in the unexplored floors I wanna see

Then how do the rulers of the tower fit in to this because they may be regulars or irregulars. Are they also just existing along side the administrators? Excluding Jahad and the other Family Heads

OMG... There is no way I commented asking for a headon vid and 3 hours later you uploaded one

What if headon is an anima and all the administrators are shinue under his control.

Them big fish seem fishey

I’ve had this line of thought in way too and my thoughts were maybe the administrators have had enough of jahad and his empire and now sort of are working in a direction to get rid of him because as we know jahad broke the key to continue up the tower and in my opinion the whole “all you desire can be found at the top” is something headon and many others bring up and to me seems to be something the administrators might want or as you brought up they carry out the will of the tower so perhaps one of the main things the tower wants is for people to continue their journeys to the top and as you briefly went over we don’t know really all that much about before the 13 initially entered maybe it’s possible that there were other irregulars before them that had been climbing that we don’t know about and we don’t know how long the tower has been around so perhaps after all these years that jahad has been blocking the way to the next floor the administrators are starting to take action against him so the way up can finally be opened once again also I remember that at the very end of the floor of death arc we saw gustang speaking with someone many people believe this could be headon (as do I) this and many other times now administrators have seem to be getting involved (or not getting involved in certain instances) in a way to sway towards baams favor as maybe he is seen as an irregular with the possible potential to beat jahad. I’m not sure if this is true but I think I also remember seeing on the wiki somewhere that headon was looking for enryu (maybe for the same reason to beat jahad) of course this all makes me wonder why the administrators haven’t gotten rid of jahad themselves one of my thoughts was maybe the kings contract also extends to them as residents of the tower. The last thing I want to mention here is that I think I remember someone (maybe hansung yu) stating irregulars are let in into the tower when there needs to be change this sort of goes against the whole thing they weren’t chosen but how I’m thinking about it is the tower carries this function out itself according to its “will” while it’s headon that “chooses” the regulars. Not sure if this all makes sense but these are my thoughts on the topic.

I've had this concept where the Tower might have some level of sentience or intelligence, and either generates, or takes in when it can't, things that it feels it needs to prevent stagnation and help drive change. Jahad climbing, the "first to climb" as he proclaimed, was a highly turbulent event that greatly changed how things worked in the Tower. And, after many tens of thousands of years under Jahad and the 10 Great Families, things are becoming stagnant again. We are seeing the Administrators acting, even if indirectly, to move Baam, or others to help Baam, when it suits their obscure purpose. I'm thinking how the Administrator for F2 directly sent Evankhell to a place where she and Hansung could directly help in the Last Station, where they otherwise would not have been able to. Maybe the Administrators are a manifestation of the Tower's will, set to make sure things function in certain ways, and with the abilities to expedite results desirable to the Tower. And in that sense, maybe the class between Enryu and the Administrator for F43 was because Enryu represented an outside power acting in opposition to the Tower's desires at that time?

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In that line, we do see something similar where there is a living entity that people can enter and traverse. For the F21 test, we see Team Sweet+Sour enter a Shinheuh, a Zygaena, to collect something growing inside of it. Perhaps the Tower is just like the Zygaena, but on a vastly greater scale?

They could have a contract with Bam’s parents too

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I'm very interested for SIU to reveal what is going to happen with Bam concerning his 2nd floor contract. Even the administration says they'd act more like chains than anything else. What limitation is he going to find (it'll affect Bam at a very inconvenient level)? Can you get rid of a contract? Will Bam have to kill floor 2's administrator to destroy his contract? Bam makes a contract, is warned by the admin about it, then we move on. It's not mentioned again. It'll impede Bam. Maybe the 2nd floor administrators voids it and that's when we find out the administrators are rebeling; if not having their own civil war over tower politics. What role is the contract going to play as the story moves on?

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I’m calling it now the tower is man made by the workshop

recently i have been thinking that Akryung is not v like people commonly think but if they used some of the dead administrator to creat something like a jiangshi in murim stories. his body is that of a admin so he is unrestricted and can use techniques that irefulars can but has no soul of his own

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i like this style of discussion id love more

"What is the Tower?" -> From what you said, i asked myself: "Is the Tower a giant plant, fed from the inside by the administrators?"

Nice analysis!

Very interesing topic. SIU really created a great fking series, there is soo much depth to it, it should be much more popular

The tower lets in irregulars for a purpose. Baam came in for a purpose. Maybe it was to undo or change what the family heads have done or failed to do. Perhaps because they stopped climbing.

Admin to Phanta: Scare the life out of Jahad. Phanta: Say no more, fam. *After that, Jahad never left his chambers 😂*

Yo Joe! I missed the stream on Sunday because I was so deep into a game that I was playing but I watched it yesterday, as for what I think of your theory is there is potentially one flaw that being if the administrators wanted to change how the tower is being ruled couldn't they do it themselves? Or are contracts unbreakable or have a grave consequence? Other then that I believe that the administrators were previously normal shinhueh who after surviving for so long in the tower and naturally absorbing shinshu they became as powerful and intelligent as they are. they are the beings that came after plants and then humans came after and this would explain why they are all fish and so different looking

The Tower is under the Sea. They're all underwater.

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If we follow the trend and think about wide wide future, I think the tower we follow is the Tower of Water, Maybe in future when Bam clears this tower with his friends, They realise that there are more towers outside to Conquer, Like there is a bigger tower, the actual tower to become god but to climb there you have to clear tower of all elements. what are your thoughts?

bam has a god inside him

I am always curious what kind of world is outside of the tower. All we got just glimpse of small cave wher bam live.