"The Alpha Legion is a traitor space marine legion" But are they though?

@metalheadsrb2214

3 жыл бұрын

Alpha legion sus

@IsAcRafT

3 жыл бұрын

@@metalheadsrb2214 Alpha Legion always sus Brother

@josephmoffatt4696

3 жыл бұрын

Hydra Dominatus 🤫

@TinyGobos

3 жыл бұрын

@@IsAcRafT Alpha legion never sus Brother, Hydra Dominatus

@supremetarantulasorcerer165

3 жыл бұрын

Nah,alpharuis was just a moron and now Omegon has to clean up the mess by using the forces of chaos to help the imperium

Everyone thinks the Alpha Legion has this great master plan, where only they know what they will do next, when in actuality, its their genetic flaw: They forget what they were doing every few hours, which often results in them coming up with a new plan in the midst of the previous one being executed.

@winterschwartz9522

3 жыл бұрын

This comment deserves more love. Fantastic.

@silentmind34

3 жыл бұрын

O.M.G

@UnknownOrc

3 жыл бұрын

This sounds too legit and logical! But then why Emperor kept these walking short term memory loss idiots? Or I guess their genetic flaw is more psychological then physical, like identity crisis or multiple personality syndrome. I will go with Astartes level Steroid fuelled Multiple Personality Syndrome!

@redsalamander9999

3 жыл бұрын

That would be a plot twist

@tharealverminsupreme135

3 жыл бұрын

I think that likely some of them do have master plans. They just think that only they have it or that everyone else in the XX knows it. Nothing can be sure.

I remember a theory somewhere that talked about the twin primarchs, and a flaw (?) in their gene seed meant that if Alpha or Omega died, the psychic backlash would trigger a mutation to occur in a random Alpha legion marine, growing them up into a replacement. Taking the "cut the head off a hydra and another grows" a bit literally but I like it

@golem4892

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds implausible, and I don't really think it's true. but I really like the theory. Makes sense.

@stevenhernandeznon-profitf968

2 жыл бұрын

?!!? That’s awesome! I like it better then some of the primarchs being unkillable

@VVopal

2 жыл бұрын

@@golem4892 there was a theory that the primarchs were created from warp denizens hence why they have super souls. Its not too implausible to have this exact thing happen, we know Lucius does something similar.

@girthquake0

Жыл бұрын

​@@golem4892 yet a chaos space marine can literally just morph out of whoever killed him

Their gene-seed mutation is thinking they are their primarch, like the Black Rage but with less angst. Gives a whole new meaning to their war cry, "I am Alpharius".

@jonathantheslow

3 жыл бұрын

This is a super interesting theory that is now my headcanon

@ZeroNumerous

3 жыл бұрын

This makes a lot of sense, actually. The Black Rage is a psychic imprint left on the Blood Angels by Sanguinius' death. Alpharius was also killed, whether by Guilliman or Dorn, so his legion may have suffered a sudden and intense psychic backwash that turns them into 'Alpharius'. But the presence of Omegon prevents them from completely falling into insanity.

@joelcraig9803

3 жыл бұрын

Once you realize that every one IS Alpharius, Theyve won.

@dethmedic52

3 жыл бұрын

WE ARE ALPHARIUS

@joelcraig9803

3 жыл бұрын

@@dethmedic52 We are Alpharius. Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated.

I lean more towards the Emperor's personal assassin, and in general, "deals done in the dark", kept hidden from prying eyes, story

@cosuinofdeath

3 жыл бұрын

Spy not assassin no you’re I was thinking of raven boy

@Alva_Lombax

3 жыл бұрын

I belive ive saw an argument that stated that the Alpha legion only sided with the traitors cuz they genuinely thought that it was the best corse for humanity, and they now work for the Imperium (without the Imperiums knowledge cuz they are still considered traitors) the main argument is the alpha legion supposedly they sabotaged the defenders of Vraks, its all a massive depends on the point of view type

@WASDLeftClick

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe one of the twin Primarchs was left on Terra with the Emperor, while the other was swept up by the Chaos Gods to some other world like the other Primarchs. That would make the stories of Alpharius’s origin each have a nugget of truth.

@Lejiend

3 жыл бұрын

WASDLeftClick that’s what I assumed, Alpharius was the lost son, while Omegon was raised in secret

@canis2020

3 жыл бұрын

Assuming this ignores the face that Malcador was said to be the assassin of the Emperor and the founder of the Assassinorium

What if they just want you to think they have a genetic flaw?

@ethicsgradient2525

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe they want you to think that they want you to think that they have a genetic flaw!

@marcusmcclain3251

3 жыл бұрын

I guess this means my Summer Heresy...is over...

@bryce4724

3 жыл бұрын

they do, its incredibly well hidden in the books

@trollzynisaacjohan1793

3 жыл бұрын

What if they're all clones of alpharius technically making everyone alpharius.

@dethmedic52

3 жыл бұрын

WE ARE ALPHARIUS

I don't trust a single thing theorized about Alpha legion.

@GumshoeClassic

3 жыл бұрын

That's the right spirit, brother.

@Zero01k

3 жыл бұрын

@Harvey Crewe haha, don't tell him Brother

@alpharius5178

3 жыл бұрын

Good, that is the wise thing to do brother! (They are falling for it. 😎 Hydra Dominatus 🐍🐍🐍)

@powerarmorenthusiast1067

3 жыл бұрын

As it should be

@gege0298

3 жыл бұрын

I trust everything theorized about the Alpha legion

They are just literal spy mains.

@Matt-md5yt

3 жыл бұрын

does that mean we need a Pyro main to sniff them out?

@kybercat7

3 жыл бұрын

"ok be 7 ft super buff gorilla men in chunky power armor" "ok" "lets tattoo our hydra symbol on every member we have" "ok" "now we be all sneeky like!" "...............are you a ork?!" i love 40k but sometimes it can be very very silly. sometimes bad silly, sometimes good silly!

@worldwar1flyingace645

3 жыл бұрын

@@Matt-md5yt Vulcan's still missing

@ethicsgradient2525

3 жыл бұрын

@@worldwar1flyingace645 He's just chilling in a particularly dark corner.

@beemus1827

3 жыл бұрын

Right time to get the razor back out

I doubt the mutations are a gene seed flaw. the XXth could coordinate on a level that was freakishly harmonic even for astartes. Most didn't go to the Eye of Terror, but many of the Alpha legion use warp tainted items and powers freely and without restraint. Nothing is forbidden, everything is permitted in the XXth. So its likely mutations are just warp exposure. But that's the trouble with the Alpha legion. We'll never know the truth.

@MrRobot-0

3 жыл бұрын

I think we should eventualy know the truth but npt the details

@robertnelson9599

3 жыл бұрын

Same could be said for all the secrets of 40K.

@MrRobot-0

3 жыл бұрын

@@robertnelson9599 nah, some stuff needs to be explained, the ambiguity suits the hydra because they are spys ho are plaing paradox chicken aginst tzench, if everything became ambiguos and nebulous as the XX, they are reduced to a meme.

@troublewakingup

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrRobot-0 caralho Eduardo vc teve um derrame?

Everything is theory when it when it comes to the Alpha Legion.

@NueThunderKing

3 жыл бұрын

Eso - One hypothesis you mean

@robertnelson9599

3 жыл бұрын

They’re like the Lost Legions but more annoying.

@mrslinkydragon9910

3 жыл бұрын

Same with alpharius's 'death' at dorns hands. i dont think hes truly dead, even though omergon thinks his twin is dead has take the mantle

@ESO-ONE

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrslinkydragon9910this may sound stupid but did the other Primarchs Know about omegon?

@mrslinkydragon9910

3 жыл бұрын

@@ESO-ONE dont know.

I mean, the Black Dragons have bone weapons as their genetic “fault.” Alpha Legion: Did you just assume my loyalty?

The true flaw is the multiple Alpharius disorder, or the emperor left Spartacus on the tv while he was working on Alpharius

@joelcraig9803

3 жыл бұрын

It turns out every one WAS Alpharius!

I like the idea they're a reverse Dark Angels. Dark Angels are Loyalists that had a split but are mostly loyalists hunting the Fallen in secret. Alphas had a split and Alpharius declared for Horus, but Omegon is still loyal and leading the Loyalists against the traitors. Hence they have to be secretive as everyone thinks they're Chaos. The loyalists have to serve the Emperors goals in secret as the Imperium won't trust them. The traitors don't want to be outed as containing loyalists to the Chaos followers or they'll turn on them too. Hence there's a big shadow war between the two factions that only occasionally comes to light and no-one's really sure of what they're up to...

@word6344

2 жыл бұрын

First legion and last...

In the book Legion it’s stated that it’s the most stable of all the gene seeds by the cabal who studied all of the legions.

@40KTheories

3 жыл бұрын

That may very well have been the case during the course of the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy, but in the thousands of years after that the genetic stock of many legions would rapidly degrade (see the Blood Angels, Imperial Fists, Raven Guard, Space Wolves etc) The source of the Alpha Legion's gene-seed developing random mutations comes from their Index Astartes article, in case you were wondering.

@theprinceofcrows8691

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, and the idea they suddenly developed a genetic mutation due to instability sounds like pure bunk. The other legions and chapters had their flaw in the early days of their existence and it is repeatedly stated their gene was among the most stable of all Astartes. Most if not all of those with defects were found during the great crusade. Any mutations among the Legion are due to warp exposure or other taint from items that were tainted by the warp.

They never come out on top... when playing both sides

The genetic flaw of the Alpha Legion is their compulsion to answer non-name related questions with “I am Alpharius”.

The more I listen to stories about the Alpha Legion the more firmly I believe they are pulling the biggest prank in galactic history. They are doing literally anything in their power to troll E V E R Y B O D Y.

My headcanon is that their genetic flaw makes them a hive mind. Every Astartes is autonomous, but through the power of warp fuckery every single Alpha Legionnaire is in direct communication with all the others. This would explain the level of near-perfect cohesion, as well as the infamous ‘I am Alpharius’.

@word6344

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder how a tyranid psyker would react to that

@keirbird5900

2 жыл бұрын

They are also stated to be incredibly swift in adapting to the loss of commanders. I agree with this theory. Maybe the primarchs can pass from one body to another through the hive mind, swelli g the body in size and strength?

One flaw is being cursed with baldness

@robertnelson9599

3 жыл бұрын

BALD! BALD! BALD! MY EYES!

@ironduke5058

3 жыл бұрын

And so far from what I've learned is that all bald people are evil. I mean look at Horus and the rest of the traitors. See a pattern there?

@robertnelson9599

3 жыл бұрын

What about Fulgrim?

@louisarius9672

3 жыл бұрын

@@robertnelson9599 Fucking wig-wearing twat.

@InquisitorThomas

3 жыл бұрын

Robert Nelson Wig

2:15 The Imperial Eagle has 2 heads. One's eyes are open, the other one's are closed. A great metaphor indeed.

5:50 Before Corax realized "I am a primarch and not even I can even BEGIN to figure out the sort of post human engineering shenanigans behind this thing. If I put the entirety of Mars on it, they couldn't even begin to make a dent" *Cawl:* *sighs* You are all so zetta slow ! Give me the magic box of McGuffium, I will build you an army in 10 000 years or you get your money back.

The Hydra has 3 heads ...

@LordMuffinToken

3 жыл бұрын

alpahrius, omegon and the legion

@madtechnocrat9234

3 жыл бұрын

@@LordMuffinToken the legion should be more like a body shoul it not?

@LordMuffinToken

3 жыл бұрын

@@madtechnocrat9234 maybe, maybe not. there is just not enough written about them. i would like more in this turbulent times and showing a few more facettes about them without giving ALL the answers.

@naveedclifton

3 жыл бұрын

Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.

@LordMuffinToken

3 жыл бұрын

@@themachine7534 wat

"Everything is true." "Even the lies?" "Especially the lies."

Bale: SINDRI SINDRI Sindri: uhh what my lord Carron: METAL BOXES! ( three qoutes from three if the most notorious alpha legion members )

The alpha legion need to do something actually relevant, they have the most potential to be cool, but the writers are too gun shy to do anything with them

@XylaOXO

3 жыл бұрын

I would be happy if they at least got to be the main focus of one good novel.

@heladodevainiya344

3 жыл бұрын

they need to bring Omegon to the current timeline

@Triumph263

3 жыл бұрын

@@heladodevainiya344 Yeah, but for which side?

@goblinry

3 жыл бұрын

@@Triumph263 Exactly.

@TKUltra971

3 жыл бұрын

@@XylaOXO They already were. Read "Shroud of Night". It starts the Alpha Legion doing lots of Alpha Legion shit and a good plot twist. This was released about a year or so ago.

this is an interesting theory and I didn't know they had a flaw in their Gene-seed. I learned something new. I always thought they are just so secretive

@40KTheories

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the information of their gene-seed developing random mutations comes from their Index Astartes article :)

@beemus1827

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair discerning anything about the alpha legion is about as hard as trying to dig through rock with hands

@Matt-md5yt

3 жыл бұрын

@@40KTheories thanks for that information

What if the real Alpharius is inside all of us all along

@DeSpaceFairy

3 жыл бұрын

So that explains the tingling sensation I have.

@dethmedic52

3 жыл бұрын

WE ARE ALL ALPHARIUS

@commanderfarsight2351

3 жыл бұрын

What if Alpharius is the corpse on the golden throne, and the emperor is Omegon?

@Big_E_Soul_Fragment

3 жыл бұрын

@@commanderfarsight2351 You know too much.

@commanderfarsight2351

3 жыл бұрын

@@Big_E_Soul_Fragment Dr Bright did it.

There really needs to be more books on the Alpha Legion, the near-total lack of stories on them is absolutely frustrating

their only genetic flaw is that they are not alpharius enough

@joelcraig9803

3 жыл бұрын

But than coudn't that be sead about all of us?

@guardianofthetoasters2323

3 жыл бұрын

@@joelcraig9803..... Idk what your talking about alpharius I AM alpharius

@wheat9829

3 жыл бұрын

@@guardianofthetoasters2323Greetings alpharius, I am Alpharius

@roguepsykerhaaker4813

3 жыл бұрын

@@wheat9829 hello alpharius and alpharius, I am also alpharius. Me and like 5 other alphariuses se gonna head to the bar, you wanna come?

I’m wondering if all members of the Alpha Legion are genetic duplicates of their Primarch, even more so than other Astartes. This is why they all still work as a unit for the same inscrutable goals. You never read about Alphas breaking off to form their own war bands like you do from other Legions. This could also explain why they were a relatively small Legion, Why the Emperor forbade them from recruiting, and why they all will claim “I am Alpharius” if they’re ever captured and interrogated. This could also explain the existence of Omegon, Alpharius’ “twin”. This also gives new meaning to the hydra motif, kill one and more of the exact same will take his place.

@justinokraski3796

Жыл бұрын

They’re banned from recruitment?

@dummyaccount7325

Күн бұрын

Wait, they forbade to recruiting?

Only the emperor himself may know unfortunately he was unable to be reached for comments

@OmniGSage

3 жыл бұрын

Only one man living could get him to answer, and he wouldn't bother with an Alpha question.

@hypnofrezzefan

3 жыл бұрын

I have heard, the last group of petetioners, were slaughterd by the Custodos. Telling that the Emporer is Not aviable.

@IONATVS

3 жыл бұрын

Give him a Text to speech device.

@golem4892

3 жыл бұрын

@@IONATVS that just broke 😞

@IONATVS

3 жыл бұрын

@@golem4892Indeed. In the grim darkness of the 42nd Millennium, there are no victors.

What is alpharius just told him marines they had a flaw. It would make just as much sense as anything else they do

@Jake007123

3 жыл бұрын

That would be fucking hilarious. Double so for his legion to believe him!

What if I told you that the Alpha legion is actually......NOT REAL Truly the largest troll in the galaxy

@Deridus

3 жыл бұрын

@Autumn Anxiety not fucking cannon!

@wheat9829

3 жыл бұрын

The alpha legion were the friends we made along the way.

@wheat9829

3 жыл бұрын

Literally the friends we made along the way, trust no one, they are alpharius.

the main flaw u get hints at in the books that cant be attributed to chaotic mutations and other "birth" defects are mental ones almost as if the extra augmentations they undergo can break the mind completely.

Their biggest flaw is thinking that EVERYTHING IS ALPHARIUS!

@pierceprzybyla1275

3 жыл бұрын

.....greetings I am Alpharius

@EthanKristopherHartley

3 жыл бұрын

And their biggest advantage is people thinking that everything ISN'T Alpharius! 😁

@notreallyhere67

3 жыл бұрын

Pierce Przybyla No, I am Alpharius!

@Deridus

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, Alpharius! Shut up! I can say this since I have been Alpharius longer than you!

@vladdrakul7851

3 жыл бұрын

@@Deridus All you fake Alpharius's need to shut the fuck up! ok!? I AM ALPHARIUS, NOT YOU!!! So many 'wanna be's' these days, it is getting crowded around here!

I find myself being very intrigued with the alpha legion

I'm Alpharius, change my mind

@hydradominatus3641

3 жыл бұрын

You're not. Because I am Alpharius.

@thedeadman4481

3 жыл бұрын

@@hydradominatus3641 No because I am Alpharius.

A good mate of mine, who has been into 40k for over 25 years, told me that the Alpha legion aren't really trators. There was prophecy or something that said if they fought with the emperor he would loose, but if they betrayed him the Imperium would win. Can anyone point to a some more information about this?

@indraciptaputramandiri1650

2 жыл бұрын

A prophecy basically. In a nutshell, Alpharius and Omegon encountered an individual who can see the future. Basically, they were shown two possibilities. If horus won-and survived, he'll soon feel utmost guilt for everything he had done and start a total war to exterminate chaos in it's entirety, resulting in total annihilation of the Imperium and humanity. The second one is where The imperium would won-and horus dead. This would lead the slow decay of the Imperium, but it will endure longer than the one in Horus' total war. Alpharius and Omegon decided to support the traitors to be double agents, just so the Imperium would still be standing, albeit decaying. Hope this helps!

@Freedmoon44

2 жыл бұрын

Its honestly a weird one, where for those 2 specific Primarch its less about the Imperium, and more about the Emperor himself and what they thought his goals were. The 1st path of letting Horus wins would mean killing Chaos, which for Alpharious allegedly at least because Alpha Legion, was the ultimate goal of the Emperor, and as such working toward that goal would mean helping the Emperor win and Chaos lose, albeit with the Imperium itself. The 2nd path of letting the Emperor win would mean the Imperium lives on, which would be allegedly in Omegon's mind (who was actually Alpharius but lol lmao) the ultimate goal of the Emperor, and he would then work behind Alpharius's back during the Heresy to help the Loyalists (at least more directly than yknow killing everything and be done with it). The result? The Alpha Legion as an entity joined Chaos since the leader was Alpharius, and as such the 1st path, but since Alpharius died and Omegon lived (most likely since even the one that allegedly killed him dont mention it) at least a part of the Legion (which would most likely be HUGE due to their geneseed being stable, the stolen Geneseed from the Raven Guard, the lack of casualties from attrition in large campain due to their tactics working differantly from the rest by far etc...) supports Omegon and with 10k years since Omegon wasnt seen in public and the Legion more or less spread across the whole Galaxy this creates a huge network that tends to do its own thing eventhough one order from the primarch would likely bring most of them back together

@MrKbonez

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. "The Cabal", a bunch of sissy Eldar, told Alpharius that he must join the Traitors but that this would ensure the eventual victory of the Imperium. I cant remember which book this was from

@r.cdahuman7682

Жыл бұрын

@@MrKbonez that's not correct. Alpharius and Omegon got told by that cabal, which are a bunch of alien species not just eldar, that they could either side with the emperor, in which case Horus would be defeated, but the imperuim would have around ten thousand years of slow, inevitable decay, while chaos would continue to grow more powerful. Or they could side with Horus, Horus would kill the emperor, chaos would be victorious and get incredibly powerful, but then Horus would, due to guilt and shame, wage a war against chaos, which would destory humanity, but take chaos with it.

Is it possible gene seed derrived from Alpharius vs that from Omegon have different types/severity of genetic flaws?

@pedropagliacci3108

3 жыл бұрын

They were identical twins, they probably have identical genetic material.

@LOBricksAndSecrets

3 жыл бұрын

@@pedropagliacci3108 I believe there is precedent for identical twins to have their genes manifest differently. It's rare though. We also don't know for certain if the warp storm that transported the rest of their brothers affected them both the same way.

@LSgaming201

3 жыл бұрын

@@pedropagliacci3108 Identical Twins are not actually identical. There are subtle genetic differences, many are not even noticeable at a surface level. Alpharius and Omegon having different levels of genetic stability would not be completely out of the question.

The clue is in the Alpha Legion crest. One hydra is shown eating the Aquila, while the other stands above “guarding” it.

@word6344

2 жыл бұрын

And a third head sneaks beneath the notice of the first two...

1:18 love that artwork, like he's saying "ah ah AH! Ask me no questions I'll tell you no lies..."

Alpharius Omegon be like: Do you know how I got these scars..?

The Alpha Legion is cheeky as hell using the Omega symbol as there logo. That's just intentionally f'n with people and I love it.

The only flaw is truly believing that they are traitor. The triplet primarchs are just waiting for the right moment to pull off the longest con ever.

@wheat9829

3 жыл бұрын

This is getting out of hand, now there are free of them.

I love the theory that through the Alpha Legion, the Emperor infiltrated the heart of chaos itself x)

The alpha legion; the astartes equivalent of the "you live life as a crab but you can only answer vaguely" meme.

Sounds like the Black Dragons. Cultivated genetic flaws that are weaponised. Did we just figure out black dragons real geneseed origin?

@lordcommissarthomas1922

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

It would be pretty awesome if they were on a secret assignment for the emperor to infiltrate chaos

They have the same flaw of the dark Angels the ability to not know when to be honest and honorable. Actually it would be interesting 🤔 if the alpha had to deal with all there secrets being laid bare by omogon no longer wanting to bare the burden.

One of my favourite characters in my Secret War continuity Veteran Sergeant Kalakor of the Raven Guard is actually one of the first aspirants made by the Alpha Legion. He decided he hated Chaos and the way his Legion was going and left. He learned sorcery to aid in infiltration and his single man war against chaos.

It's really interesting to think about how the A legion being such an advanced and intelligent group would have an emphasis on oral history. Cause the only way to know truth in the legion must be to be told the truth and begin taught how to speak or learn in their own specific code language

Bashir: "Of all the stories you told me, which ones were true and which ones weren't?" Garak: "My dear Doctor, they're all true." Bashir: "Even the lies?" Garak: "Especially the lies." Alpha Legion in a nutshell.

Welp, we just found out where the black dragons got their gene seed from.

I always thought of their geneseed as stable, but malleable. Primarch and marine are effectively interchangeable and this was used to great effect within the Legion. However, when infiltrating other legions it could be nessasary to mimic deviations in geneseed to fit in. For example, salamanders skin or blood angel teeth. With the commitment to infiltration, it seems plausible that Alpha Legion marines would undergo genetic experiments to achieve that. However the "failure" does not mean the marine in question is discarded, instead their changes are put to a different use.

@ComradeOgilvy369

10 ай бұрын

Underrated

Well, with the Alpha Legion being closer loyalists, they would, naturally not be corrupted by chaos, but they have to blend in, and if they're not getting SOME kind of mutation then the traitor legions would become suspicious of them, so they must have manufactured temporary mutations that can be undone when their work is finished.

It would be wild if Alpharius did land on the barren world and Omegon was raised by the Emperor. Who in turn is still loyal to his father 😂. It's like a soap opera. Next on As Terra Turns...

@carlstanford7607

3 жыл бұрын

Man you nailed it but reverse the names.

"Demon blood?" how does one even acquire such a thing?

@Salmon_Rush_Die

3 жыл бұрын

It's a whole process... A real pain in the ass.

@SonicNitro

3 жыл бұрын

I thought daemons could only maintain their form in the material realm when their is a lot of warp presence? So even if you did acquire, some blood form a daemon in the warp, wouldn't it just evaporate out of existence if brought out into the material realm?

@SonicNitro

3 жыл бұрын

@Lex Bright Raven So keep the stuff in a special warp based containor?

@casanovafunkenstein5090

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe it's like the blood in The Thing: it's a separate entity with its own sense of self-preservation that splits off from the main body in order to maintain its corporeal form. If the demon donates its various fluids willingly, and certain demons are all too willing to leave their fluids everywhere (I'm looking at you, Nurgle and Slaanesh. In this regard you're as bad as each other), it may be more likely that they can be collected when the demon returns to the warp, or can be carried into the material world.

The alpha legion's gene flaw, as shown by the geld, seems to be related to "twinning" for some odd reason.

I honestly thought it was just the I am Alpharius thing.

their mutations are a gift for tzeentch for just being so damn confusing

I'm feeling pretty Alphairus myself today.

How do you feel about an idea I had, where the alpha legion are fighting their own shadow war with loyalist and traitor alpha legion?

I believe the flaw is more of a mental one like the blood angels. The dark angels can keep secrets and suspicions too closely. I believe the Alpha legion struggles from somethings similar they can’t help but be covert secretive and subversive even the two Primark‘s were at odds with each other without the other knowing about it!

The genetic flaw is actually known, and present in their Primarch(s). They cannot take an objective simply. It has to be complicated an over a protracted period of time. I believe either Russ or Girlyman complained that the Alpha Legion spent a lot longer on a planet than was necessary, that it could have been easily taken with a swift full on assault, but the Alpha Legion did things like normal, and waited around for sabotage opportunities and such. Horus apparently loved it tho.

I'm afraid that I have to disagree on one point here (sorry!) You mentioned that the least is known about the Alpha Legion notwithstanding the two lost legions. We know for a fact that they existed, that they had numbers, and they were removed from all records. If an Alpha Legion Astartes told me that the number for his legion was 20 I'd be second guessing everything I've ever read or heard that confirmed it for the rest of eternity! 😁

1:11 I know it’s supposed to be a hushing motion but common it just looks like his trying pick his nose

The Alpha Legion is so deep under cover, even they don't know who they work for.

One flaw is that which makes them so incapable of just getting on with it, they're incapable of walking in a straight line, due to how complex their plans are...well, as the Joker would put it "If I'm going to have a past, I'd prefer it to be multiple choice." | 5:38 - Yeah, they ruined that for that universe's version of Nightwing. | Well, it's not because they were the sons of Spiky Tits.

Yay I really like these therory videos especially one on the alpha legion

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Alpha legion lore is weird, i kinda like it but it can be a bit much at times

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You mean Tralse videos

I think the main reason the Alpha Legion didn't get reinforced is that they actually didn't need it. They were "losing" forces while actually establishing infiltration cells across other legions, but they can't just have their legion shrink without requesting more soldiers. The Emperor refused their reinforcements because his psychic life-count said none of their legion had died. I actually suspect the Alpha Legion hasn't splintered into warbands, they're the masters of infiltration and remaining undetected. If their legion worked together when all the others splintered apart, it would be super suspicious and reveal their hand. It's not the Alpha Legion way.

The plan is working, brothers. Hydra Dominatus!

I think it's cool to have a covert legion... at the same time it'd be cooler to have the readers aware of the truth and the characters in world in the dark.

Wow wow!!! Awesome topic! This is so interesting, can't wait to see the video

My theory is that the alpha legion is still loyal to the emperor and before the heresy, was give a secret mission by the Emperor.

Who knows maybe the Alpha legion is just going unga bunga, while everyone's overthinking what they're doing

Mah Boyze! Though still, look at that sigil, three heads of the Hydra, there's another brother Primarch out there

Problem with the Alpha Legion, is the same problem as the Lost TV series. If you keep creating mysteries but never provide answers, many people will eventually switch off. I really enjoyed the Alpha Legion at the beginning of the Horus Heresy novels, but fifty books in and I cannot stand them.

The greatest thing about playing Alpha Legion in warhammer 40k is that even when you lose, you still win. Becouse that was the plan all the time.

I'm starting horus heresy alpha legion after Christmas. This is the coolest of the legions.

Both the primarchs and space marines were created from knowledge gleaned from Chaos. The Alpha Legion's mutations could be a visible result of that and could be why they were so secretive. It could also at least partially explain why they worked to all look identical and interchangeable, so as to possibly wipe away any mutations in one fell swoop. One reason why they turned traitor might also have been that they were worried of being purged if these mutations got out of control, like what Sanguinius feared if the Black Rage and Red Thirst became known.

I remember in Community in the conspiracy theory episode the Dean was revealed to just agree to go along with anyone's schemes even if it meant betraying the person he was already scheming with and he ended up just being a triple agent not knowing what the actual scheme was anymore. I wonder if the Alpha Legion flaw is they just say yes to any scheme even if it conflicts with another scheme.

Hydra Dominatus

All of the accounts are correct cause they are all Alpharius

OK, one thing is for certain: The Alpha Legion is, in fact, a space marine legion. Probably.

Now, I had heard either on this channel or on another lore channel that the reason the Alpha legion defected was because of a psychic prophecy describing the fall of the empire. It described total extinction of humanity if Horus won, and the slow and complete fall to chaos should the emperor win. So, either in canon or in the TTS verse, all the emperor needs to do is convince the Alpha Legion that their prophecy was false and they'll become Loyalist again.

Flaw? That's not a flaw, that's a feature.

Their biggest flaw is that they joined Chaos.

Unofficially the Alpha Legion is Malak's legion. Officially, Alpha Legion are ACTUALLY Tzeentch's favored legion in reality while Magnus' sons assume Tzeentch favors them

Omegon apparently was the one who escaped his planet by stealing a ship

I'd like to know more about the soul drinkers and there mutation of there seed....

The flaw could be low survival of the initates but they are almost immune to mind reading... Hence no-one's really sure of their loyalty but there's not many of them.

Man I love this channel!

What are the loyalist and traitor legion pairings? Blood Angels : World Eaters Dark Angels : Emperor's Children Imperial Fists : Iron Warriors Iron Hands : Death Guard Raven Guard : Night Lords Salamanders : Word Bearers Space Wolves : Thousand Sons? Ultramarines : Luna Wolves/Black Legion White Scars : Alpha Legion?

Do we think that the 20th will take over a primaris ship or facility to become relavant again?

mate i love you top 5 warhammer channels ez but a 30 sec intro?

I think it'd be cool that Alpha marines flaw was that they were all smaller so that marines could blend in among normal humans.

Ah, the Alpha Legion. For all their cleverness they may be the biggest suckers in the galaxy. Yes, let's fight Chaos by helping it! Great idea!

alpharius's genetic flaw was trying to dick around with Dorn. This...was a mistake.

I'd say their flaw is an obsessive compulsion to make extremely intricate plans, as well as a predisposition to a sort of martyr complex that compels them to give up their own identity in one form or another. They may also be compulsive and habitual liars.

I think that Cawl knows the truth. He has the Sangprimus Portum. He has the traitor gene seed. He knows the most of anyone alive in 40k about that - and I suspect that Fabius Bile has similar experience.