The G15’s Bonkers Optical Reader and Punch!

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We’re slowly inching our way closer and closer towards bringing the DC up on the G15. We have just a few more challenges to tackle, namely the paper tape reader and punch. This system is pretty wild looking with all sorts of electrical shenanigans and electromechanical wizardry. In this episode, we take a much closer look at it and try to get it as clean as we can in preparation for the big day!
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Chapters
0:00 Who let me get my hands on a piece of history?
3:27 Money, money, money
5:45 Disassembly
7:50 Preventative maintenance?
10:12 A look at the motor control section
12:01 A look at the optical reader
13:34 The elephant in the room (the punch)
18:44 First, a quick clean
20:15 Much ado about selenium
22:10 What’s next?
24:53 The babies!

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  • @Richardincancale
    @Richardincancale2 ай бұрын

    Hi there! In 1943 the Colossus computers used to aid decryption of the Lorenz cipher at Bletchley Park used photoelectric tape readers. They could read 5 hole tape at 5000 characters per second, with the tape moving at 30 mph. The tape was advanced by pinch wheels rather than driving it with the sprocket holes to avoid tearing the tape. The sprocket holes were also read by photoelectric detectors and was used to clock the whole machine so its operation was completely synchronous with incoming data.

  • @xplora1a

    @xplora1a

    2 ай бұрын

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_computer

  • @Quizidomo

    @Quizidomo

    2 ай бұрын

    When they ran the tape at 60 mph it disintegrated so they had to slow it down to 30 mph. Colossus had no trouble reading the tape at 60mph though. It is estimated that it could have processed 10,000 cps with ease.

  • @val82791

    @val82791

    2 ай бұрын

    Not just computers: "After amplification, the sound from the microphone was fed to an electromagnet that vibrated a pen with black ink, under which a paper ribbon was stretched. After that, the tape was passed through a photocell, directing light from a powerful lamp onto the paper. The recorded vibrations caused voltage changes at the output of the photocell, were amplified and fed to the loudspeaker, which reproduced the recorded." kzread.info/dash/bejne/qYF2zsNpeMi0pKw.html

  • @UsagiElectric

    @UsagiElectric

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the insight! Interestingly, the Colossus uses vacuum photocells, which are quite a bit different than photodiodes. I think we may have two firsts here: the Colossus is the first for an optical tape reader, and the G15 is the first to use photodiodes for an optical tape reader!

  • @tiepup

    @tiepup

    2 ай бұрын

    As with most things at Bletchley Park we didn't know about them until relatively recently because of all the governmental secrets. At least Tommy Flowers is now starting to get some recognition for his amazing contribution to computing.

  • @magnusnordlund3787
    @magnusnordlund37872 ай бұрын

    "Who on earth let me get my hands on one?!" Well, in my humble opinion, there is simply no safer place in the world for a vintage computer than in your capable hands. You deserve every inch of that piece of hardware!

  • @UsagiElectric

    @UsagiElectric

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much! Hopefully it all comes up smoothly and we can get this beast back up to System Source and let museum-goers get hands on with it!

  • @numlockkilla

    @numlockkilla

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@UsagiElectric💯 agree

  • @magnusnordlund3787

    @magnusnordlund3787

    2 ай бұрын

    And we'll happily be along for the ride, with a fresh batch of popcorn at the ready. :D Best of luck! @@UsagiElectric

  • @carstenfrandsen
    @carstenfrandsen2 ай бұрын

    A lot of of engineers put their life into designing and constructing these machines - I really love how you bring those old "wonders" back to life. Those engineers are really unsung heroes IMHO.

  • @KameraShy

    @KameraShy

    2 ай бұрын

    Think also about the people who assembled these machines. Strung all that wire. So very tedious. They were artists.

  • @UsagiElectric

    @UsagiElectric

    2 ай бұрын

    The original team that designed and built this thing is on another level. I'm only barely scratching the surface of their brilliance, and even 70 years later, they're still taking me to school and teaching me all sorts of new things!

  • @headpox5817
    @headpox58172 ай бұрын

    Australia's first computer, CSIRAC, built in 1949 was fitted (around 1951) with a 12-hole optical paper tape reader using photodiodes.

  • @UsagiElectric

    @UsagiElectric

    2 ай бұрын

    Oooh, excellent catch! That's a machine I know almost nothing about, but that's awesome!

  • @HRMunroe

    @HRMunroe

    2 ай бұрын

    @@UsagiElectricand the Elliott 402 of 1955 had an optical five-hole tape reader. Heck, even Collossus code-cracking machine from 1943 read its input tapes optically.

  • @egelmuis
    @egelmuis2 ай бұрын

    It did not have the first optical tape reader, but was probably the first to use photo diodes for it. Colossus had an optical tape reader in 1943-1945. Colossus was a set of computers developed by British codebreakers in the years 1943-1945 to assist in the cryptanalysis of the Lorenz cipher.

  • @UsagiElectric

    @UsagiElectric

    2 ай бұрын

    Good catch! The Colossus was pretty epic in what it was capable of at the time!

  • @gushiperson

    @gushiperson

    2 ай бұрын

    @@UsagiElectric Charles Forbin never should have built it.

  • @jeromethiel4323
    @jeromethiel43232 ай бұрын

    "Hop to it," on a channel called Usagi (rabbit in Japanese) electric. I see what you did there, and i love it!

  • @NoPegs
    @NoPegs2 ай бұрын

    Colossus's paper tape reader was optical using photocells... December 1943. (The "bed-stead" was the nickname for the tape loop reader.)

  • @douro20
    @douro202 ай бұрын

    The 2D21 was a very popular tube, somewhat similar electrically to the 2050. It was extensively used in computers, primarily in reader and punch applications. The 5727 is a special version, ruggedized and subjected to 500-hour batch tests to ensure its reliability and precise operating characteristics. You will also find them in electronic metronomes, namely later versions of the Crystalab Metronoma and a number of those produced by Seth Thomas.

  • @andygozzo72
    @andygozzo722 ай бұрын

    some early mullard phototdiodes/phototransistors were actually how some early glass encased germanium transistors started off, if they were found to have good light response, they were encapsulated as photocells, if poor, they became a OC70 or OC71 transistor, clear silicone gel for light use, white opaque for transistor, although you can find some transistors with clear silicone gel if you scrape the black paint off

  • @theantipope4354

    @theantipope4354

    2 ай бұрын

    Ha! I'm glad I'm not the one who remembers that trick! Wow, that's going back a very long time.

  • @user-pf3ye6yi9n

    @user-pf3ye6yi9n

    2 ай бұрын

    I remember somewhat later cutting the top off a salvaged BC108 with a razor saw to make an NPN phototransistor, because proper phototransistors were expensive and not generally found on scrap / surplus boards. A drop of clear resin or similar was recommended for protection.

  • @neilmusgrove4668
    @neilmusgrove46682 ай бұрын

    Hi, I am often baffled by the technology in your videos but always watch, learn and enjoy! The enthusiasm that you bring is entertaining and carries me along, My wife watches with me, mainly for seeing the rabbits and cats at the end! thanks again.

  • @KameraShy

    @KameraShy

    2 ай бұрын

    Is there a rabbit channel for her to watch?

  • @KeritechElectronics
    @KeritechElectronics2 ай бұрын

    Nice work on the reader; one teeny tiny 1N4007 bypassing the stinkelenium wrecktifier can really do a nice job, doesn't it? Wishing you total success on your journey. It's good to know that Bendix may have been the pioneers of photoelectric tape sensing. I see you appreciate the inconspicuous medical instruments too... Use the Forceps!

  • @Mariano.Bernacki
    @Mariano.Bernacki2 ай бұрын

    It's only a matter of time before you get a Cray. Calling it.

  • @minty_Joe

    @minty_Joe

    2 ай бұрын

    X-1 or X-MP? Or both?

  • @TomFynn
    @TomFynn2 ай бұрын

    You should nickname the reader "Judy", so you could have your own Punch and Judy show.

  • @pete3897

    @pete3897

    2 ай бұрын

    When my friends daughter Judy got the first bicycle that she didn't have to share with her brother it got an utter thrashing. It was 100% Judy cycle.

  • @UsagiElectric

    @UsagiElectric

    2 ай бұрын

    Hehe, I'll forever think of Punch and Judy every time I look at the paper tape punch.

  • @user-lx3th5on8l

    @user-lx3th5on8l

    2 ай бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @arcadeuk
    @arcadeuk2 ай бұрын

    I can't trust selenium rectifiers at all, so glad you took them out of circuit I have been working on restoring a super rare piece of arcade equipment that suffered an electrical fire from a selenium rectifier that went up in smoke (glad I didn't have to experience that smell, it happened to the previous owner) and I am many hours into completely rewiring and overhauling it (the entire wiring loom and transformer were destroyed in the fire)

  • @sinebar
    @sinebarАй бұрын

    When I was working as an engineer, our model shop had an old Agie wire EDM that ran off punch tape that was loaded on what resembled film reels. The way it worked was the NC program was ran through a punch machine and the resulting paper punch tape was then loaded onto the reel and the wire EDM made the part. It was all analog but very accurate. They eventually upgraded it to run off I think a Greco box so they could disperse with the punch tape which was prone to damage.

  • @zxborg9681
    @zxborg96812 ай бұрын

    The nice thing about the 1N4007 mod is that since the forward voltage is almost an order of magnitude lower, so will the power dissapation through it. Those big chunky fins on the selenium devices were mainly there b/c their forward voltage drop was so high so they wasted tons of power. I'm enjoying your channel, your enthusiasm for old tech is contagious, and some of the machines you're showing are really amazing!

  • @tamberp
    @tamberp2 ай бұрын

    I can't help but wonder just how much of that price-tag is *labour hours* of fabrication and wiring all those backplanes. There's a lot of work in that big heavy teal beast!

  • @UsagiElectric

    @UsagiElectric

    2 ай бұрын

    I would say a considerable bit! My guess is that it's about half and half labor/R&D recoup and materials cost. But even then, $250k equivalent materials cost is pretty impressive!

  • @GilmerJohn
    @GilmerJohnАй бұрын

    In the mid 70s I used an HP "mini" that had an optical tape reader. It was designed to "NOT' transfer the tape to a 2nd reel but to just dump it on he floor. Amazingly, it wound up with no problems every time!

  • @mfbfreak
    @mfbfreak2 ай бұрын

    10:12 those are certainly not electrolytics. They're likely just paper capacitors in a metal case. The right way to do it, is to check if electrical leakage will result in overbiased tubes (leading to destroyed tubes and transformers), and/or if one shorting out will result in burnt out solenoids etc. A little bit of leakage may be tolerable in some applications, but in others it will result in damage. So verify that they're not in some critical DC blocking configuration to the punch solenoids or something. I literally had one short out on me just a week ago, taking an easily replaced resistor with it. A similar one in the same configuration shorted out upon HV testing it. Most often, they don't short - just leak electrically. As a snubber, like i think i see in the circuit, they won't really do damage - just cause a fault as if the contacts are stuck closed. Sometimes smoke, if it's a HV switch.

  • @russellhltn1396

    @russellhltn1396

    2 ай бұрын

    It appears those are the capacitors used for filtering the power. (Frankly, I think its less about protecting the reader from noise, then about protecting the rest of the computer from the reader.) I would advise replacing them. If they become leaky, they're going to go BANG! or possibly start a fire. Being across the power line, they have virtually unlimited current to do bad things. (or create shock hazards.) They should be replaced with modern X and Y rated caps. This is very similar to replacing "death caps" in vintage guitar amps.

  • @rocketman221projects

    @rocketman221projects

    2 ай бұрын

    @@russellhltn1396 Yes, any capacitors that are across the line or between line and ground should be replaced with proper X and Y rated capacitors regardless of whether they are working or not. That is a major safety issue.

  • @russellhltn1396

    @russellhltn1396

    2 ай бұрын

    Just to be clear, I'm fine with leaving caps like in tone circuits where there's no real damage if they fail. But this isn't one of those cases.

  • @johnopalko5223
    @johnopalko52232 ай бұрын

    I've had the dubious pleasure of smelling a burned-up Se rectifier. It was pretty unpleasant but not enough to drive me from the room.

  • @johngormley2192
    @johngormley219222 күн бұрын

    I am amazed that you can find schematic diagrams that are from so long ago. That is some awesome research skills.

  • @Helltormentor
    @HelltormentorАй бұрын

    Man, what a journey this is, can't wait for the moment when that beast of a machine comes fully alive! Cheers from Finland!

  • @buffler1
    @buffler12 ай бұрын

    Wrote my first program on a G15D Pomona College 1958

  • @Derpy1969
    @Derpy19692 ай бұрын

    Love your channel. Love this project. 1958 computing never looked so possible.

  • @jurjenbos228
    @jurjenbos2282 ай бұрын

    Interesting to realize that time, the tape reader was state-of-the-art futuristic technology. I can imagine the engineer bragging about it.

  • @highpath4776
    @highpath47762 ай бұрын

    If it is bendix that drive belt is probably stock from a washing machine

  • @philipnasadowski1060
    @philipnasadowski10602 ай бұрын

    The 2D21 was also used in the first model (V200) of Seeburg jukeboxes with the 'Tormat' selector system. Tormat was actually a magnetic core memory, in 1955 (!). They went to the 2050 with the next machines. The 2050 tube was used to trip the machine from 'scan' mode into loading a record to play. They used Tormat from 1955 to the late 70's It was a neat system, when it worked, and a bear to fix when it didn't.

  • @mrluckyuncle
    @mrluckyuncle2 ай бұрын

    I love the channel - but I’m so impatient. I hope the Bendix becomes operational in my lifetime.

  • @timc3600
    @timc36002 ай бұрын

    Wow, you have a collection of round-tuit's at 8:19. Now you have these, there is no reason to say "when I get a round toit" and many of those jobs that have been waiting can now finally be done :-)

  • @JagerEinheit
    @JagerEinheit2 ай бұрын

    Hello @UsagiElectric, i caught a minor error in the video, which has gotten me several times with chemical elements, at 4:42 you have the total ore production of Thallium TI which was used for rat poison and insecticides etc and Titanium (Ti) which for the longest time the major producer was the USSR, which if your bendix is using a Ti drum would make it not only pricey, but VERY hard to source without going through intermediary countries, who were friendly with the Soviet Union. It was also a MAJOR issue with trying to build the various versions of the SR-71 family of planes, whose titanium requirements used at times apparently almost all of the USSR supply. Loved the video, thanks for keeping these bits of history alive, and available for all to see. I will likely never be able to travel to see these mainframes due to immune disorders, but your videos scratch my itch for this era of computing.

  • @UsagiElectric

    @UsagiElectric

    2 ай бұрын

    Good catch! The reason I showed Thalium is because Titanium comes after Thallium alphabetically and I accidentally pulled the wrong page from the PDF in. In my sleep deprived fog of editing, I totally didn't even realize until it was pointed out to me. Whoops! However, I think everyone is slightly off the mark with their timeline of Titanium prices. Everything I've seen shows that by the late 1950s, US production of Titanium was ramping up dramatically. The US produced more Titanium in 1955 alone than Bendix would have used in the entire 8 year run of G15 construction. One thing to remember is that each G15 only used around 45 pounds of Titanium total. Sure, the SR-71 had to source Titanium from overseas, but it would have used several orders of magnitude more Titanium in one plane than Bendix used for the entire G15 construction. Here are the sponge prices for Titanium, and what's most important to note here is that they drop precipitously as the 1950s come to a close. (Source: pubs.usgs.gov/sir/2012/5188/sir2012-5188.pdf ) 1956: 2.75 1957: 2.25 1958: 1.82 1959: 1.60 Our own density measurements line up almost perfectly with using Titanium, and when you consider stability, clearances, thermal properties, etc. etc., Titanium makes perfect sense. The only counter-argument I've heard against Titanium is that it was too rare, but if anyone could have swung it, Bendix absolutely could have!

  • @JagerEinheit

    @JagerEinheit

    2 ай бұрын

    @UsagiElectric OK good to know, I know bendix was involved with aerospace stuff, but I was under the impression the USA was not a major producer of Ti til later in 60's , either way Bendix would have absolutely been in line to get Ti as their mainframes likey ran calls for military research etc. Thanks again it is great to see such technology lovingly restored by you. Can't wait for the DC switch to be flipped

  • @BSDKllr
    @BSDKllr2 ай бұрын

    #PUSHTHEGREENBUTTON! The suspense is killing me! I don't know how but I have been sucked into your videos and the way you explain everything is very good. I like videos that don't hide all the troubles they had getting to the point they are at.

  • @tony359
    @tony3592 ай бұрын

    Thanks for showing us the next step of this journey! I loved the comment directed at those who want to replace the capacitors at all costs! I'm with you on this, it shouldn't be a routine task!

  • @evmemc
    @evmemc2 ай бұрын

    Awesome work, looking forward to engaging DC!

  • @tubeDude48
    @tubeDude482 ай бұрын

    So you didn't add a dropping resistor to the 1N4007? Remember, that old rectifier has a more dropping voltage compare to the 1N4007/.

  • @thromboid
    @thromboid2 ай бұрын

    Those are some beautiful schematics. Someone really cared.

  • @rtfmpeople
    @rtfmpeople2 ай бұрын

    Such a neat project but I have to admit: I'm super happy the bunnies are doing OK!

  • @DumahBrazorf
    @DumahBrazorf2 ай бұрын

    I don't know, it's that "wire twisted safely out of the way" safe enough? It looks so near the leg of the new diode...

  • @cdh76

    @cdh76

    2 ай бұрын

    Particularly on a part of the machine that is mechanical so will have some inherent vibration. Plus the machine needs to get transported back when it's working again. Definitely should be insulated IMO.

  • @Curt_Sampson
    @Curt_Sampson2 ай бұрын

    08:45 Ha! I totally misidentified those components. I looked and said to myself, "Those aren't capacitors. They're clearly 93A6 diodes in 66Y2-029 yellow vinyl tubing." But of course I was wrong; they're in _66C2-029 clear_ vinyl tubing!

  • @thefrankly
    @thefrankly2 ай бұрын

    Incredible mechanical work you do, absolutely fascinating.

  • @jamesdecross1035
    @jamesdecross10352 ай бұрын

    Stunning project!

  • @darkwinter7395
    @darkwinter73952 ай бұрын

    I might investigate replacing the vinyl tubing on those rectifiers. Such flexible PVC has plasticizers in it, and as it leaches out some of them can be rather bad for other stuff in the area.

  • @adamw.8579
    @adamw.85792 ай бұрын

    This fancy gas-filled tubes actually are called thyratrons - similar to semiconductor brothers - thyristors, acts same way. Also was used as switching devices for large currents. Selenium rectifiers are durable when are sealed, moisture can destroy it within hours. Check coating on these modules, if the paint is intact and whole computer was stored in dry place everything should be fine.

  • @JonasC22
    @JonasC222 ай бұрын

    I have almost no knowledge of any sort of computing tech before the 90's and I find this so immensely fascinating learning about these old monsters from before my time. Love this content!

  • @IainShepherd1
    @IainShepherd12 ай бұрын

    Inspiring as ever. All your babies get the best of care including the electro-mechanical ones. (I know the Bendix isn’t “your” baby but. 😊) Absolutely gotta see System Source when I’m next in USA. No visits planned but … this decade!

  • @stphinkle
    @stphinkle2 ай бұрын

    I would check the ESR and leakage on the capacitors for one. If they are the paper-wax type I would replace them for sure. I would also make sure they are not shorted.

  • @malcolmgibson6288
    @malcolmgibson62882 ай бұрын

    Looking forward to the big switch on. It's a great series to watch.

  • @user-nd8zh3ir7v
    @user-nd8zh3ir7v2 ай бұрын

    its very cool just to see this stuff, and how it was constructed!

  • @TeslaTales59
    @TeslaTales592 ай бұрын

    They sure used a lot of slot screws in those days! Great presentation as usual.

  • @ByGrabtharsHammer
    @ByGrabtharsHammer2 ай бұрын

    With all of this relay madness, the EMI filter may protect the logic of the computer from the paper tape reader, not the other way around...

  • @thomasklima215
    @thomasklima2152 ай бұрын

    As the selenium rectifiers have a voltage drop of several volts you could also have let them in circuit, they wouldn't get any current with the 1N4007 in parallel. Those dangling cables give me the creeps xD

  • @theantipope4354
    @theantipope43542 ай бұрын

    Back in the day, there was a hack you could do to use an OC71 germanium transistor as a phototransistor, which involved scraping the black paint from the right part of the glass encapsulation to expose the junction to light.

  • @TheHylianBatman
    @TheHylianBatman2 ай бұрын

    2024 is the year of the Bendix! I'm loving this project so far and I can't wait for the next episode!

  • @vanhetgoor
    @vanhetgoor2 ай бұрын

    I still remember the smell of this kind of old electronics, the thick layers of dust inside and the oil used to smooth the rolling of axes and motors. The non-metric, kind of stainless steel, screws that could only be used there, at that specific spot and nowhere else. Massive plates of metal for the casing within another metal case. Huge connectors that were one of a kind, sometimes I think what got into their minds to produce stuff like that, so heavy, so large, so unliftable.

  • @theantipope4354
    @theantipope43542 ай бұрын

    17:21 The reason the forward voltage drop on the selenium rectifiers is so large is because they're stacked in series - as you can see just by looking at them - to give them the high voltage rating they need in that circuit. If you stacked 6 modern silicon diodes the same way, the voltage drop would be about 3.6V. Of course now you can get modern silicon diodes that can easily handle an Amp, & much higher voltages for just a few cents each, such as a 1N4007. They're tiny enough that you could just solder them next to the old rectifiers & move the top wire, leaving the antiques on place for nostalgia & authenticity's sake. :)

  • @Runco990
    @Runco9902 ай бұрын

    I'm seriously dying to see this beast run! 👍

  • @jensschroder8214
    @jensschroder82142 ай бұрын

    Did you solder the diodes the right way round? Where the plus sign is on the Selenium diode you have soldered the negative pole of the diode.

  • @georgegonzalez2476

    @georgegonzalez2476

    2 ай бұрын

    Well, you are correct in that the banded end of a diode is "more negative" when the diode is conducting. But in both the selenium and silicon diodes the markings are on the "cathode" end. In quotes as they have no actual cathode.

  • @UsagiElectric

    @UsagiElectric

    2 ай бұрын

    I double/triple checked the diodes were installed correctly according to the Federal datasheet on those specific selenium rectifiers. For whatever reason, the "+" mark on the selenium rectifiers is equivalent to the bar on the diode. Check out the Federal datasheets here: www.worldradiohistory.com/BOOKSHELF-ARH/Technology/Federal-Selenium-Rectifier-2nd-1953.pdf

  • @andygozzo72

    @andygozzo72

    2 ай бұрын

    @@UsagiElectric yep, the + sign on old rectifiers usually indicates the output polarity

  • @gcewing

    @gcewing

    2 ай бұрын

    Not just old rectifiers! Modern bridge rectifier packages are often marked with "AC" or "~" for the legs that connect to the transformer, and "+" and "-" for the DC outputs.

  • @Colaholiker

    @Colaholiker

    2 ай бұрын

    I was thinking the same. Good thing I read through the comments before posting 😅

  • @pjcnet
    @pjcnet2 ай бұрын

    It's amazingly small and compact considering most computers filled a room in those days, the innovation is amazing with no expense spared, this was absolute cutting edge technology even down to the optical tape reader and it was certainly built to last, it's incredible how this can be in such good condition after over 65 years, most of which it's been redundant and left to deteriorate with time. I can't wait until the day you get this processing code, still a long way to go, almost certainly with some unexpected challenges ahead, but you'll get there.

  • @Ardamax_
    @Ardamax_2 ай бұрын

    Man, this Bendix machine is so cool. Thank you for introducing me to the world of early computing. It's all so interesting.

  • @PixelBrushArt
    @PixelBrushArt2 ай бұрын

    Can't wait for DC!

  • @waynethompson8416
    @waynethompson84162 ай бұрын

    Very happy to see that you replaced the Selenium Rectifiers with the 1N4007 diodes! I do have a question about that though. I noticed that on the top one that you did first, you have the CATHODE of the 1N4007 attached to the "+" of the selenium rectifier. Is that correct? I thought you would put the anode of the 1N4007 to the same place as the anode of the Selenium rectifier. Another thing, I strongly urge you to replace those 0.1 µF with SAFETY capacitors! (The ones where the AC power enters the unit)

  • @axelBr1

    @axelBr1

    2 ай бұрын

    Just checking the comments before commenting, "Are you sure the 1N4007s are attached correctly?"

  • @UsagiElectric

    @UsagiElectric

    2 ай бұрын

    I double/triple checked the diodes were installed correctly according to the Federal datasheet on those specific selenium rectifiers. For whatever reason, the "+" mark on the selenium rectifiers is equivalent to the bar on the diode. Check out the Federal datasheets here: www.worldradiohistory.com/BOOKSHELF-ARH/Technology/Federal-Selenium-Rectifier-2nd-1953.pdf

  • @n2n8sda

    @n2n8sda

    2 ай бұрын

    @@UsagiElectric Correct! The + mark on an old selenium is the banded end of a modern diode.

  • @dont-want-no-wrench

    @dont-want-no-wrench

    2 ай бұрын

    wow, that is an important point for me to remember @@UsagiElectric

  • @dont-want-no-wrench

    @dont-want-no-wrench

    2 ай бұрын

    it would be worth specifically calling that out in video, so those of us who dont know better put a diode in backwards someday @@UsagiElectric

  • @femboichik
    @femboichik2 ай бұрын

    Can't wait to see some program running on this beast! That would be so epic!

  • @TheEPROM9
    @TheEPROM92 ай бұрын

    Colossus in WWII use for cracking the Lorense code use by the top brass of the Narsi party. Used an optical reader for the punch tape. I think it used CDS cells as diodes had not been invented at the time.

  • @jackhack1972
    @jackhack19722 ай бұрын

    Love the cotton tails. Ohh really like circuit sim use too. But then cotton tails. That's epic !

  • @lukemccreagames836
    @lukemccreagames8362 ай бұрын

    I'm worried that you've put the new diodes around the wrong way. Hopefully everything is all good there. All the best, and I love your work.

  • @poyuuu8061

    @poyuuu8061

    2 ай бұрын

    Was about to mention that! Edit: someone mentioned that and Usagi answered, the selenium diodes have the + markings on the cathode end of the component, he linked a datasheet too.

  • @DavidLightman
    @DavidLightman2 ай бұрын

    awesome series!, can't wait for the DC bus power up!

  • @jaimdiojtar6515
    @jaimdiojtar65152 ай бұрын

    i love the G15 series how after so many months you slowly revive this beast

  • @mikefochtman7164
    @mikefochtman71642 ай бұрын

    "Thyrotron".... tube version of an SCR. :)

  • @liquidmandotcom
    @liquidmandotcom2 ай бұрын

    I'd love to see a breakdown of that paper tape, like how many holes, speed, how it loads that onto the ram disk, you know clocking and all that. I'm really enjoying this series BTW.

  • @janno288
    @janno2882 ай бұрын

    i swear usagi tracks when i refresh my KZread! Great Video, even tho I havent watched the first Minute yet!

  • @ronny332
    @ronny3322 ай бұрын

    Your movies are like a long and everlasting journey and you let us be part of it. Thank you :-)

  • @johnhelt5475
    @johnhelt54752 ай бұрын

    22:07 Nice job! Though you might want to slip some heat shrink over the dangly wires remaining exposed.

  • @vmiguel1988
    @vmiguel19882 ай бұрын

    Will be cool to see those capacitors releasing the magic smoke 😁😁

  • @ftrueck
    @ftrueck2 ай бұрын

    I don't test all the vacuum tubes until something is not working... Famous last words. 😀

  • @dasiro
    @dasiro2 ай бұрын

    there's a really easy way to see when a machine is made: when the wires are knotted together you can be pretty sure it's pre space age tech, since zip-ties were invented during this era so everything before was beautifully tied together with special wax-wire

  • @megatesla
    @megateslaАй бұрын

    19:30 Consider 3D printing it out of flexible filament like Ninjaflex. I have repaired a vintage mechanical calculator with a 3D printed belt and it worked great!

  • @Renville80
    @Renville802 ай бұрын

    If anything, I would probably just give that grungy looking sleeving on those diodes and chokes a misting of isopropyl alcohol, just to take care of whatever fungi has taken root in the sleeving. The only small concern with the selenium diode replacement is the difference in the voltage drop (7V on the selenium rectifier vs 1V on the 1N4007). Hopefully other portions of the circuit can compensate; otherwise, R = E/I and P = EI should be what you need to figure the value and size of the series resistance needed to soak up the remaining 6 volts. But otherwise, looks good and good to see things are slowly and steadily moving along on the Bendix! :)

  • @michaelardai9703

    @michaelardai9703

    2 ай бұрын

    As he said, it is already in series with a big resistor, and since it is used as a flyback diode, clamping the flyback pulse to 1v instead of 7v would be better anyway

  • @supercompooper
    @supercompooper2 ай бұрын

    Selenium rectifiers are just about the coolest looking components ever.

  • @andygozzo72

    @andygozzo72

    2 ай бұрын

    theyre still made for certain applications ,

  • @supercompooper

    @supercompooper

    2 ай бұрын

    @@andygozzo72 wow like what applications?

  • @andygozzo72

    @andygozzo72

    2 ай бұрын

    @@supercompooper battery charging mainly, as their higher internal resistance helps to limit and partially regulate current

  • @MinorLG
    @MinorLG2 ай бұрын

    I recently bought a kingdom kt-70PC terminal, and it just came in today. Bought manual separate, and both came in today

  • @Tgspartnership
    @Tgspartnership2 ай бұрын

    i love the fact it needs a hopper to collect all the punched holes

  • @donaldhoot7741
    @donaldhoot77412 ай бұрын

    My dogs tail goes bonkers when he sees the Chewy box. Sorry about the vase. Cool viddy so far!

  • @michaeldemel4934
    @michaeldemel49342 ай бұрын

    One thing regarding the RF decoupling filter, those old style capacitors in that unit can fail short and make the chassis live. Might be worth a look. As always a great video.

  • @stevew8233
    @stevew82332 ай бұрын

    The typewriter looks like a Friden Flexowriter. In the 1960's I used one which was the main control device (apart from the control panel) on an Elliott 803.

  • @emilschw8924
    @emilschw89242 ай бұрын

    Old computers deserve a second chance. Because of history. So that we can tell our children where it all started.

  • @martinhow121
    @martinhow1212 ай бұрын

    That price list was for Thallium, not Titanium. A very different metal.

  • @UsagiElectric

    @UsagiElectric

    2 ай бұрын

    That's because Titanium comes after Thallium alphabetically and I accidentally pulled the wrong page from the PDF in. In my sleep deprived fog of editing, I totally didn't even realize until it was pointed out to me. Whoops!

  • @martinhow121

    @martinhow121

    2 ай бұрын

    @@UsagiElectric Great work , please keep it up. And you sure would not want to be handling Thallium. Its very poisonous and its use featured in some high profile murders in the UK in the early 1970 - the Bovingdon Teacup Poisoner Etc. My Chemistry teacher lived in Bovingdon so we were always careful around him!

  • @mikefochtman7164
    @mikefochtman71642 ай бұрын

    @11:55, I'm pretty familiar with motor control circuits and I see a 'DC Braking' supply right there in the middle. So when both F and R relays are off (via series normally-closed contacts), it applies DC power to one of the windings in each motor. This is commonly used to make the induction motor quickly stop. But I'm confused a bit since this DC power is only supplied with incoming AC when one of the nomrally-open F or R contacts are closed. So I'm wondering if those first F/ R contacts have some time-delay dropout or such?? Also that switch in the upper left, only controls the contacts on the tubes along the left-hand side? Something about those relays and that switch just aren't very clear.

  • @andreas7136
    @andreas71362 ай бұрын

    $49500 for the basic computer! I think, this was the price for a luxury house in the US in the 1950s.

  • @pscheie

    @pscheie

    2 ай бұрын

    Indeed: My parents built the three bedroom split level house that I and my siblings grew up in and paid $26,000 for it in 1960. ~$50k would have bought a lot of house in those days.

  • @KAPTKipper
    @KAPTKipper2 ай бұрын

    @usagi Electric The code cracking COLOSSUS computer that was built in WWII used an optical tape reader too. From the wiki "A tape transport with an 8-photocell reading mechanism."

  • @kerryedavis
    @kerryedavis2 ай бұрын

    The PDP-12 might just be the most beautiful computer ever. Perhaps tied with the PDP-15.

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff2 ай бұрын

    Why not just test those rectifiers before replacing?

  • @MRichK

    @MRichK

    2 ай бұрын

    You get the bad smelling smoke if the test fails, there is no pretest for that.

  • @dont-want-no-wrench
    @dont-want-no-wrench2 ай бұрын

    the little bunnies looking good

  • @jamessmith4229
    @jamessmith42292 ай бұрын

    When I was exposed to this in high school, they ran a program that played Tic-Tac-Toe on the typewriter. I hope you can find that somewhere. It would be fun to see it happen again.

  • @null_carrier
    @null_carrier2 ай бұрын

    That machine will run some code before it's even 70 years old.

  • @nathansealey6270
    @nathansealey62702 ай бұрын

    Totally agree!! Only change a component when it’s failed otherwise your are just creating waste

  • @supercompooper
    @supercompooper2 ай бұрын

    Hi I'm very curious how you do that form fitting highlight line under the circuit. It's sort of becomes a halo around the diodes and such which perplexes me. Without this mystery being solved I fear I will never sleep again 😮

  • @UsagiElectric

    @UsagiElectric

    2 ай бұрын

    Do you mean the color coded highlighting that I show on schematics? I draw it all by hand in Krita, the image editing program I use!

  • @supercompooper

    @supercompooper

    2 ай бұрын

    @@UsagiElectric that's amazing. How does it sort of take the profile of the shapes like diodes and stuff?

  • @DenebTM

    @DenebTM

    2 ай бұрын

    i assume the trick is just selecting the relevant parts by colour (the "magic wand" tool), then doing a "grow selection" on that

  • @godfreypoon5148
    @godfreypoon51482 ай бұрын

    4:39 That's Thallium, not Titanium (?)

  • @frankowalker4662
    @frankowalker46622 ай бұрын

    I bought a reel to reel recorder last year that had a selenium rectifier dated 1957, and it still works perfectly. They are pretty robust.

  • @andygozzo72

    @andygozzo72

    2 ай бұрын

    yep, although a lot say they should be replaced on sight as can fail disastrously with a horrid stink, as long as not overloaded and run reasonably cool, too much heat is a big killer for them, they'll likely be ok , but i'd advise fitting a fuse in its feed, if it doesnt have one or a mains input fuse

  • @frankowalker4662

    @frankowalker4662

    2 ай бұрын

    @@andygozzo72 Over here in the UK the mains plugs have fuses in them, and the motor has a fan fitted with vents right under it. So It's prety well catered for. But yeah, I've heard you can never get rid of the smell. LOL

  • @andygozzo72

    @andygozzo72

    2 ай бұрын

    @@frankowalker4662 i'm in the uk, you cant rely on say a 3 amp plug fuse popping if you get a direct ht short, it wont, it'll explode the rectifier, i very strongly advise fitting a fuse in the feed the rectifier and/or a more suitable current rated fuse on the mains input, 0.315 to 0.5amp, antisurge should be about right, what make/model tape recorder?

  • @frankowalker4662

    @frankowalker4662

    2 ай бұрын

    @@andygozzo72 It's a Grundig, not sure of the model number. I gave it a recap and replaced some resistors that were out of spec. I kept checking it with my thermal imaging camera and it barely rose above room temp.

  • @andygozzo72

    @andygozzo72

    2 ай бұрын

    @@frankowalker4662 grundigs usually had internal fuses anyway i have a TK20, used to have a couple of others but sold them some years back

  • @splitprissm9339
    @splitprissm93392 ай бұрын

    Found very similar looking actual capacitors in an (ultimately deemed beyond economical repair for different reasons) 1960s lab power supply - *they weren't leaking and measured fine* (capacitance, ESR, leakage current at nominal voltage), it was just the insulating plastic that had degraded in an incredibly icky way. Can be slit with a utility razor and removed - though the glue residue on the capacitor body is hard to get off, stoddard solvent and paper towels will get most of it off (likely including the printing :( ) but not quickly, then the parts can get a new heatshrink...

  • @byterock
    @byterock2 ай бұрын

    Hmm I would put a resistor as well as a diode as in this case it would increase you plate voltage so those 2D21s might not turn off/on as expected. Looking at the Datasheet at 160v plate the operation curves are all quite non-linear all depends on the voltage on the grid (1) if it Negative then you have good linear curve a positive value get you into funky town. The old guys at the radio club swear that the high voltage heavily stressed seleniums rarely blow it is the lower voltage (30) are the ones that go. I would check the voltages first but you are most likely right there is no need for a resistor.

  • @andygozzo72
    @andygozzo722 ай бұрын

    personally i'd say those selenuim diodes wouldnt need replacing, going by the rating of those series resistors, theres not that much current passing in them, theyre more likely to fail under ac power rectification use during the reverse part of the cycle..

  • @andygozzo72

    @andygozzo72

    2 ай бұрын

    if you really must replace them , try to track down some early 'top hat' silicon diodes from the early 60s like BY100, BY105, etc. or whatever equivalents you had over there! as they wouldve likely been used as service replacements back in the day ...

  • @keyboard_g
    @keyboard_g2 ай бұрын

    David, the next time you come to NJ for VCF East you should try to get into the Bell Labs facility in Murray Hill. Nokia Bell Labs is building a new home in New Brunswick, NJ and there is no telling what will happen in the original place where transistors and Unix were created.

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