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The Future of Zionism with Dr. Einat Wilf

In this compelling episode, Rabbi Mark Wildes sits down with Dr. Einat Wilf, former member of the Israeli Knesset, for an insightful discussion on key issues shaping the Middle East. They delve into the Western indulgence of the Palestinian dream and its implications, the transformative impact of the Abraham Accords, and the legacy of the Oslo Accords. The conversation also touches on the policies of the Trump administration to support Israel and how those policies stand now. Additionally, Rabbi Wildes and Dr. Wilf explore the rising phenomenon of university protests and encampments, examining their roots and influence on public discourse. Join them for a thought-provoking dialogue that navigates the complexities of peace, politics, and protest in today's world.
0:00 - Welcome
8:58 - Western Indulgence of the Palestinian Dream
15:45 - Oslo Accords & 2 State Solution
26:35 - Trump Administration
32:31 - Abraham Accords
45:39 - University Protests & Encampments
58:01 - How to Stay Informed
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  • @Dakini31
    @Dakini31Ай бұрын

    I just love Dr. Wilf 🇺🇸🤍🇮🇱

  • @maltija1
    @maltija1Ай бұрын

    This woman is brilliant. She has recognised that her belief in a two -state solution was mistaken, and realised that it is not what the Arabs want. That takes courage.

  • @everythingandmore5537

    @everythingandmore5537

    Ай бұрын

    The Arabs were ready to recignize Palestine in 2002. The lady is wrong. In 2002, the Arab League issued a significant statement known as the Arab Peace Initiative, which was adopted during the Arab League Summit in Beirut, Lebanon. This initiative proposed a comprehensive peace agreement between the Arab world and Israel. Key points of the Arab Peace Initiative include: 1. **Full Israeli Withdrawal**: The initiative called for a full Israeli withdrawal from all territories occupied since the 1967 Six-Day War, including the West Bank, Gaza Strip, East Jerusalem, and the Golan Heights. 2. **Establishment of a Palestinian State**: It proposed the establishment of an independent Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital. 3. **Resolution of the Refugee Issue**: The initiative suggested a "just solution" to the Palestinian refugee problem based on United Nations General Assembly Resolution 194. 4. **Normalization of Relations**: In exchange for Israel meeting these conditions, the Arab countries would consider the Arab-Israeli conflict ended, establish normal relations with Israel, and provide security guarantees to all states in the region. The Arab Peace Initiative was a significant shift in the Arab League's approach to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, as it offered normalization of relations in return for Israeli concessions on key issues. Despite its significance, the initiative has not been fully realized, with various factors and conflicts contributing to the lack of comprehensive peace. Israel's response to the initiative was mixed. While it welcomed the potential for normalization with the Arab world, it had reservations about the specific terms, particularly regarding the return of Palestinian refugees and the extent of withdrawal from occupied territories. The initiative has been periodically reaffirmed by the Arab League in subsequent years, continuing to serve as a reference point for potential peace negotiations.

  • @daisydoodie
    @daisydoodie18 күн бұрын

    What a conversation! Unbelievable educating!!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @valeriearnon3846
    @valeriearnon3846Ай бұрын

    Thanks so much for this informative and convincing debate. Keep well God bless!

  • @takeoverusa
    @takeoverusaАй бұрын

    Great conversation, the guess was very insightful and very knowledgeable. I learned a lot about the bigger picture moving forward. God bless & hopefully more love towards one another with humility and reconciliation for us all. ❤ JL

  • @everythingandmore5537

    @everythingandmore5537

    Ай бұрын

    She doesn't talk about the 2002 Arab initiative, which said that if Israel recognise the Palestinian state under the 1967 borders, all the Arab nations will immediately recognise Israel. It doesn't fit into her narrative that the Arabs didn't want a Jewish state in any part of the land. She is not brilliant, but her narrative is loved by her host who never challenges her.

  • @user-ev4rr6kh7e

    @user-ev4rr6kh7e

    Ай бұрын

    ​@everythingandmore5537 she actually mentioned that exactly. She noted that the Arab sunni countries realise that they prefer a future of peace, but not the Palestinians themselves who never wanted it for real (for the fatah as a transitional phase before all of Palestine, and for Hamas forever war till the full distruction of Israel). The fact that there was an Arab initiative doesn't necessarily mean that is also the ambition of the Palestinian people or their leaders

  • @henryrubin9552
    @henryrubin9552Ай бұрын

    This one should be the next PM of ISRAEL great undertaking the Israel position in the ME

  • @bloodcircle3885
    @bloodcircle3885Ай бұрын

    A two state solution should not even be discussed anymore. It is over.

  • @youtubeaccount6294

    @youtubeaccount6294

    Ай бұрын

    What’s the alternative though… I do agree it’s not what the Palestinians want, but what other solution could you push (giving Gaza back to Egypt etc didn’t work)

  • @gkappa4085

    @gkappa4085

    19 күн бұрын

    You are such a disingenuous fanatic...there was never going to be a 2 state solution. Netanyahus whole career is based in there never being a 2 state solution. Stop gaslighting the world.

  • @TJ_USA
    @TJ_USAАй бұрын

    This woman is marvellous.

  • @robchandler9163
    @robchandler9163Ай бұрын

    I wish UNWatch would take her with them everywhere as would be more backup for their demands to defund UNRWA

  • @dinaspunge

    @dinaspunge

    Ай бұрын

    Elant and Hillel appeared together on numerous occasions at the UN, and other UNwatch meetings

  • @F4R4D4Y
    @F4R4D4YАй бұрын

    Great conversation.

  • @TEMindset83702
    @TEMindset83702Ай бұрын

    Excellent interview. I enjoyed the insights. The Republican Jewish Coalition is also trying to elect pro Israel candidates to Congress.

  • @alwise3963
    @alwise3963Ай бұрын

    Great interview.

  • @gg_rider
    @gg_riderАй бұрын

    Einat's perspective is blatantly obvious (with the irony that people often miss the most obvious). I come to it from being duped by Leftist friends to support Palestine at the time of American protests against the Iraq War. Duped is perhaps a strong word, but it wasn't until several years of Palestine advocacy (and lots of hummus and baklava at Eid) that I looked up some ex-Muslims online, gained important info from adults who were raised in Islam since childhood. Next, i did something I had never done during my years of Palestinian advocacy: I read the Hamas charter. This is the 1988 charter which Hamas leaders say the original "endless Jihad" version is still in effect, despite the 2017 revision towards more social justice-y language to woo young western Leftists. Since then, I learned about many things Jewish refugees did to purchase land from Arabs and Turks (Hamas nullifies those Land Titles), plus the use of hard labor and technology to reclaim uninhabitable land in Palestine region from malaria, and assistance to Arabs to help them eradicate the scourge of malaria. (None of this friendly help matters to hostile islamists, no more than the fact that Jewish doctors saved the life of Sinwar. Mitzvah doesn't matter.) I do not even know that the British created the first Arab-Muslim nation-state to ever exist in the Palestine region, in 1921. That is now the kingdom of Jordan. That means the other state that Arabs who call themselves Palestinians DON'T WANT, and have REJECTED for 85 years, because it borders Israel, rejected despite other people wanting to give the land to them, the No No No NEVER Resolution, that would be a _2nd Arab Muslim state_ in the region, giving up half of Israel, in a gesture of Western Liberal appeasement that has been REJECTED for over a hundred years, LONG BEFORE 1948. The bottom line is decades of Marxist and Islamist slander of Jews and Israel, false accusations of "stolen land", when returning land in weakness and appeasement is the direct cause of outbreaks of violence, this slander is often given the wishy-washy name of anti-semitism. No. It's vicious slander, which also happens to be anti-semitic, because it's drawn from Holy Book verses about annihilating Jews. The mainstream arguments are based on noble notions about a hypothetical imaginary democratic Islamic movement, which doesn't exist, and which is considered an anathema by genuine Muslims. MUCH MORE.

  • @phg5

    @phg5

    Ай бұрын

    I’m so happy to hear that there are people like you who are able to change their minds when they look at the true facts. Thank you!

  • @mns8732

    @mns8732

    Ай бұрын

    @gg_rider : malaria is mostly found in tropical regions which wouldn't include Israel.

  • @7135HOLLY

    @7135HOLLY

    Ай бұрын

    @@mns8732 It's well documented that Dr. Jacob Kligler (a Jew) and his wife, a nurse, helped eradicate malaria in British Mandate Palestine. There were swamps (and malaria) in many areas - reducing malaria also caused a lot of Arab migration to the area because it offered economic opportunities in the area.

  • @lenacohen8913

    @lenacohen8913

    Ай бұрын

    @gg_rider I really wonder in what precarious state of mind (or after taking which drugs) one can write such nonsense !!! From the entire text full of idiotic statements, I'll only choose two (in order not to make the comment too long): 1. "...giving up half of Israel in a gesture of Western liberal appeasement, that has been REJECTED for over a hundred years, LONG BEFORE 1948." or: 2. "Jordan, the other state that Arabs who call themselves Palestinians DON'T WANT, and have REJECTED for 85 years, because it borders Israel" Just for the record: 1. For over a hundred years , LONG BEFORE 1948, the Palestinians couldn't REJECT "a half of Israel", because Israel didn't exist until May 14., 1948. And: 2. No country (not even Jordan!) bordered Israel 85 years ago simply because Israel was only founded 76 years ago. Ergo: The fact that someone who doesn't even know something as basic as the date of Israel's founding dares to speak on the topic is beyond absurd, it's ridiculous. On the other hand, this shows how intellectually limited the admirers of Zionism are. Without exception, as the comments here show. But is that surprising? Hardly likely! How else could a human being support a genocidal ideology except out of sheer stupidity?

  • @jazura2

    @jazura2

    Ай бұрын

    What refugees bought land?

  • @millerbiz
    @millerbizАй бұрын

    Dr Wilf speaks from extensive experience sitting across the table from Arabs. Best to listen exactly to what she says. The Palestinian dream in their eyes is totally different to the vision of the West

  • @yusefkhan1752

    @yusefkhan1752

    Ай бұрын

    Pharisee

  • @millerbiz

    @millerbiz

    Ай бұрын

    @@yusefkhan1752 yes but can you acknowledge the State of Israel now so that we can move forward

  • @practice4523

    @practice4523

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@millerbizwe dont acknowledge thieves

  • @nicolebrook2610

    @nicolebrook2610

    Ай бұрын

    @@practice4523istael was occupied by the Roman Empire and then conquered over and over again and most recently by the Ottoman Empire. Why don't you address that many countries in the Middle East used to be Christian majority countries and now are Muslim majority countries. There are 22 Arab countries, 53 Muslim majority countries and one Jewish state in a small part of its original ancestral homeland. And you call Israel thieves ? Your narrative will collapse because the Arabs are the colonizers.. it's so obvious and when facts are presented. ... but you are here to start antagonizing people because there are plenty of places to hang out with your Hamas friends. F off

  • @cbs63

    @cbs63

    Ай бұрын

    ​@practice4523 yes you do. Leaders sitting in Qatar are thieves.

  • @gloriakelly707
    @gloriakelly707Ай бұрын

    it’s not just a state in name only, It’s complete freedom.

  • @johnmcclellan9020
    @johnmcclellan9020Ай бұрын

    Israel is Constantinople in 1453 surrounded by enemies. Will history repeat?

  • @dnamra27
    @dnamra27Ай бұрын

    Do you expect UN watch to bare results, and if not, Is it worth the effort?

  • @alrosano5786
    @alrosano5786Ай бұрын

    The knee must be kept in the Palestinians neck period ?

  • @georgewahl2498
    @georgewahl24983 күн бұрын

    Where oh where is our humanity???? Why are we so inept at being human?

  • @jerzywieckowski7610
    @jerzywieckowski761013 сағат бұрын

    ❤❤❤

  • @alrosano5786
    @alrosano5786Ай бұрын

    The Denial lady ? 😊

  • @jessereichbach588

    @jessereichbach588

    Ай бұрын

    denial of what?

  • @Diamondsrsgbf
    @DiamondsrsgbfАй бұрын

    If the Israelis were to lay down their arms, it could lead to a devastating genocide as their enemies would likely take advantage of their vulnerability. In contrast, if the Palestinians were to cease their armed struggle, it is believed that it could pave the way for a lasting peace. This would allow both sides to engage in meaningful dialogue and negotiations, potentially leading to a harmonious coexistence and a stable future for the region. The cessation of violence could open doors for economic development, cultural exchange, and mutual understanding, and long term cooperation, peace and prosperity.

  • @user-ep9ig1og5j
    @user-ep9ig1og5jАй бұрын

    Such bright women. Thank you so much.

  • @ner30
    @ner30Ай бұрын

    How to counterfeit the history! That's your speciality!!

  • @7135HOLLY

    @7135HOLLY

    29 күн бұрын

    Enlighten us with your infinite wisdom. You've said absolutely nothing. What is your conclusion after years of your research?

  • @michellec1866
    @michellec1866Ай бұрын

    Recently listened to Niall Ferguson, he talked about that Palestinians have missed the window of opportunity to have a real state, they need to enlighten themselves to be a part of modern society, like Scotland.😂😂

  • @khrabissus
    @khrabissusАй бұрын

    2. States solution is not the the solution. It’s the disparition of Israel state

  • @bearowen5480
    @bearowen548015 күн бұрын

    Rabbi, it's "apprised", not "appraised".

  • @gk2677
    @gk267724 күн бұрын

    Israel as the " third sovereignty" of the Jewish people, besides sounding ominous, makes a dubious assumption that the polities of the ancient Israelites were somehow on a par with the modern state of Israel.

  • @codexox1
    @codexox1Ай бұрын

    Judaism is a solid faith it is not a Nation so it cannot be defeated. The Z project and Israel State is just an entity and entities can come and go. The Jewish people will forever flourish as a diaspora where we can make a difference and will never loose our identiry. We should never be again allow ourselves to be a pawn and used by any other entity. The Sound of Music. Maria is no longer an asset to the Abbey. How do you solve the problem like Maria.

  • @jazura2

    @jazura2

    Ай бұрын

    Israeli and Diaspora mentality is incompatable.

  • @ataiber1
    @ataiber1Ай бұрын

    Rabin didn’t believe Oslo agreement! He was forced to sign it by Peres!

  • @pakinammagdy9288
    @pakinammagdy9288Ай бұрын

    63 minutes discussing faith for a nation that killed 40,000 civilians in 6 months! What about discussing humanity next time?

  • @tehilovely

    @tehilovely

    Ай бұрын

    😮learn the facts

  • @itamarbendavid
    @itamarbendavidАй бұрын

    How can a rabbi think there Isa third exile? We know that there are only two

  • @jessereichbach588

    @jessereichbach588

    Ай бұрын

    How are there only 2? lol historically there have been many.

  • @jiff80
    @jiff80Ай бұрын

    I’m not Jewish and an atheist. I’m dust?

  • @Shrulik

    @Shrulik

    Ай бұрын

    who said that?

  • @salehabu-arisheh9469
    @salehabu-arisheh9469Ай бұрын

    The solution is one state for all the people in the land with equality, justice for all, dignity and freedom for all. But that wouldn't work for only Jewish state as these 2 trying to sell .ethno supremacy state for only Jews which is the same as apparthied south Africa.

  • @Owenfam44
    @Owenfam4421 күн бұрын

    NO MATTER WHAT SHE SAYS THE FACTS OF THE HISTORY OF PALESTINIANS SHE DID NOT MENTION ARAB LAND ISRAEL IS ON ARAB LAND

  • @colinress
    @colinressАй бұрын

    For sure « the War of return ».

  • @alrosano5786
    @alrosano5786Ай бұрын

    Peace at their terms ? Easy !

  • @richardchurchward4413
    @richardchurchward441322 күн бұрын

    Neutral listener here. What these debates never honestly contend with is the absolutely plausible and defendable position that no people would surrender their own sovereignty to accomodate the ambitions of another people who would seek to displace them. Even Ben Gurion, author of Plan Dalet acknowledged that the future of the Zionist state was contingent upon removing Arabs from the lands sought for a Jewish state. The interviewer opens this talk by gushing over the statement of the guest wherein she proclaims the immense benefit of the Zionist state to her personally. There is much to be taken from this statement and the gushing response. Simply put, within this statement there is no reflection upon the cost to the Palestinians such that this dream could be realised. Further, the benefits bestowed by the Zionist project have had the polar opposite effect for the Palestinian. I am not sure whether 'irony' even covers it.....

  • @geertdecoster5301
    @geertdecoster5301Ай бұрын

    Somehow there's an element missing here in the discussion of the eventual final settlement. The offer for Arabs still living in Judea and Samaria is full right residency inside the state of Israel on the entire westbank of the Jordan together with some citizenship of the state of Jordan so that they can be governed from Amman. What about the other in this discussion then? Wouldn't that destabilize not only Jordan but most of the neighbouring states again? I don't think that there's consideration of the other when dealing with the other states in the region. What about Lebanon right now for example? There's even need for recent US support there to keep the Lebanese army safe from a full scale war with Hezbollah

  • @jessereichbach588

    @jessereichbach588

    Ай бұрын

    Jordan IS the Arab Palestinian state. It is the entire eastern half an the majority of the Mandate for Palestine. There is no ethnic difference between the Aravs of Jordan and those of the western shores of the Jordan. 80% of the Jordanian population are for all intents and purposes, "Palestinian" which is a geographical region turned into an ideological movement, not a people or nation,. Jordan claimed the WB in 1948 in the land grab when Egypt claimed Aza, which stood for 20 years until 1967 when they were liberated, But Jordan needs to take their responsibility for being the Arav state within Palestine. The foreign Hashemites were given control over Jordan so that the Aravs would not create a continuous empire from Morocco to IRaq which was their plan and goal well into the 1970s. They never planned or wanted a nation of Jrdn, Palestine, or even Lebanon. And as e have seen the ummah has destroyed Lebanon and stolen it from the Maronites. The Biden admin enables, funds and supports the enemies of the free world and west, the US Biden admin IS a major part of the problem, as Oboma was before.

  • @veralevy7036
    @veralevy7036Ай бұрын

    Dear Anat, it would be wonderful if you would not repeat it again and again, Palestine or Palestinian people, because there is no such a thing‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️

  • @maltija1
    @maltija1Ай бұрын

    @andreskorge1828 So you think Israel should respond to the aggression from its neighbours by simply turning the other cheek. I think Jews have tried that for centuries. It didn't work.

  • @everythingandmore5537
    @everythingandmore5537Ай бұрын

    She doesn't talk about the 2002 Arab initiative, which said that if Israel recognise the Palestinian state under the 1967 borders, all the Arab nations will immediately recognise Israel. It doesn't fit into her narrative that the Arabs didn't want a Jewish state in any part of the land. She is not brilliant, but her narrative is loved by her host who never challenges her.

  • @jessereichbach588

    @jessereichbach588

    Ай бұрын

    Um no, that was an Arab LEAGUE plan , set up by the Saudis with COMPLETELY absurd and ridiculous asks. It was never a serious offer and not something Yizreal could ever abide by. The 1967 borders don't exist. Yizreal liberated the WB from Jordan and Aza from Egypt, neither from Falistine. The first time in history a nation of Falestine was EVER claimed in the WB/Aza was 1968, the year AFTER they rightfully came under Yizreali control. No such claim was every made in the previous 20 years, or 100, or 1000, or 2000. There is ZERO chance of Yizreal giving up the entire WB at this point, and there is ZERO chance of complete "right of return" for all those UNRWA disingenuously claims as "refugee". Was not rational to even ask. That deal was a joke and came on the back of intifada. We can talk about this joke deal all day, it changes nothing.

  • @khrabissus
    @khrabissusАй бұрын

    Yes the Jewish’s were naive and sleeping

  • @Ponkytwo
    @PonkytwoАй бұрын

    Interviewer, if you want to hear yourself, go talk in the mirror. If you want us to hear your guests, then let her talk. Learn from the interviewer in the IDSF videos

  • @saifsaad201286
    @saifsaad201286Ай бұрын

    The word ( Esky ) means ( from the mother ). This means that the owner of this surname uses the family name of a woman who immigrated from ME to Europe, meaning that they belong to immigrant women who married Western men, and they continue to use the family name of their immigrant grandmothers to prove their origins and Eastern affiliation. By the way, Benjamin Netanyahu's real name, Malkowsky, is similar to the family name of former Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. This means that Netanyahu’s grandmother, whose family name bears this name, is a cousin of this prime minister, and she had previously immigrated to the West. This name goes back to a large tribe in Iraq and the Middle East in general, and it is a common name there. and Yes, they are in fact Mizrahi, as is the case with most residents of the south of Iraq. Of course, the word Mizrahi is a second name for the word gypsy, so...

  • @practice4523

    @practice4523

    Ай бұрын

    Dont lie to us

  • @saifsaad201286

    @saifsaad201286

    Ай бұрын

    @@practice4523 am I ?

  • @noammkw3770

    @noammkw3770

    Ай бұрын

    the word mizrahi isnt gypsy, its literaly eastern in hebrew

  • @saifsaad201286

    @saifsaad201286

    Ай бұрын

    @@noammkw3770 Yes, they are called in Arabic (Sharuk), which means Easterners, and again the word Mizrahi and the word Gypsy have the same meaning and they are the same thing.

  • @practice4523

    @practice4523

    Ай бұрын

    @@saifsaad201286 Yes. The idea that just because your religion came from the middle east then you should go stay there is absurd. Your people were Europeans, you were supposed to stay in europe. You allowed racism to push you into another people's land and you expected those people to just watch as you stole their land.

  • @ak203
    @ak20320 күн бұрын

    Diaspora Judaism is in long term decline, so Israel is Jusaism in the long run.

  • @andreskorge1828
    @andreskorge1828Ай бұрын

    If you dig deeper it's apparent Israel was always about the Peace " Plan " but never really about actual Peace for all. I

  • @maltija1

    @maltija1

    Ай бұрын

    So you think Israel should respond to the aggression from its neighbours by simply turning the other cheek, i.e. curl up and die. I think Jews have tried that for centuries. It didn't work.

  • @maltija1

    @maltija1

    Ай бұрын

    So you think Israel should respond to the aggression from its neighbours by simply turning the other cheek. I think Jews have tried that for centuries. It didn't work.

  • @maltija1

    @maltija1

    Ай бұрын

    So you think Israel should respond to the aggression from its neighbours by simply turning the other cheek. I think Jews have tried that for centuries. It didn't work.

  • @jessereichbach588

    @jessereichbach588

    Ай бұрын

    Only in the eyes of infants and bigots. Yizreal is completely justified in what its doing and has done. cope

  • @alrosano5786
    @alrosano5786Ай бұрын

    1967 !!!!!

  • @jessereichbach588

    @jessereichbach588

    Ай бұрын

    Yea, the refugees should have been rehomed by 1967 and they never should have given back the Sinai to Egypt, huge mistakes

  • @alrosano5786
    @alrosano5786Ай бұрын

    Ostriches!

  • @live-edge-creations
    @live-edge-creationsАй бұрын

    🐍

  • @oliviersayada3993
    @oliviersayada3993Ай бұрын

    the fist antisionism was jewish studies the history

  • @practice4523
    @practice4523Ай бұрын

    Stealing their land was never a good idea

  • @Shrulik

    @Shrulik

    Ай бұрын

    You talk about Poland stealing East landers from poor passive Nazi Germany in the end of ww2?

  • @practice4523

    @practice4523

    Ай бұрын

    @@Shrulik you speak of Poland and Germany, both of these are free states. Its time for your neighbors to be Free from you as well

  • @Shrulik

    @Shrulik

    Ай бұрын

    @@practice4523 Your ancestors "freed" the world from 6 millions Jews. Although your worldview, thirst for Jewish blood and hypocrisy is at par as your "freeing" ancestors; gone are the good old days that you could exercise total impose your will.

  • @Shrulik

    @Shrulik

    Ай бұрын

    @@practice4523 the world will be better when it will be freed from hypocrites that have total contempt for fellow human beings that didn't embrace religions that emerged from their own religion.

  • @jessereichbach588

    @jessereichbach588

    Ай бұрын

    The land never belonged to Aravs and Yizreal never stole it. Keep pretending though.

  • @pattymucha2184
    @pattymucha2184Ай бұрын

    😊crapoola

  • @JacobStein1960
    @JacobStein1960Ай бұрын

    From 1949 until 1967 Jordan occupied the West Bank and East Jerusalem while Egypt occupied Gaza. The Egyptian government was a dictatorship. Jordan was a monarchy. Neither Egypt nor Jordan had any intention of leaving the occupied territories. Why didn’t Palestinian “resistance fighters'' attack Jordan and Egypt? Why didn’t anyone recognize a Palestinian State? What about the Palestinian right of national self determination? What about full democratic human rights for Palestinians? Only when Jews occupied East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza in 1967, which they did and will continue to do so because it is necessary for Israel’s survival, did it become an international crisis and Jews became the targets of constant terrorist attacks and international condemnation.

  • @tariqkhonji6556

    @tariqkhonji6556

    Ай бұрын

    Because they wouldn’t have been subjugated under Jordanian leadership, of course. It’s a completely different dynamic. Also, the Arab League and other forces were opposed to Jordanian annexation and were expecting Jordan to eventually give it back. But Israel was the main enemy. Why start a two front war?

  • @JacobStein1960

    @JacobStein1960

    Ай бұрын

    @@tariqkhonji6556 To my knowledge, and correct me if I am wrong, there was no significant international outcry when Egypt and Jordan occupied the occupied territories and the Palestinians had few human rights and no right to national self determination. Not one country in the world recognized the State of Palestine. There was not one Palestinian terrorist attack on Jordan or Egypt. Because they were Muslims oppressing Muslims. Which is ok. But Jews oppressing Muslims is something completely different.

  • @JacobStein1960

    @JacobStein1960

    Ай бұрын

    @@tariqkhonji6556 Tell me if I am wrong, however as long as Arabs were occupying the "occupied territories" no one cared very much but Jews occupying them is a huge international humanitarian crisis. Double standard?

  • @tariqkhonji6556

    @tariqkhonji6556

    Ай бұрын

    @@JacobStein1960 disputes between neighbors is a different thing from a colonial project and as I said the Jordanians didn’t subjugate the Palestinians as the Israelis did to most of them. Huge difference.

  • @JacobStein1960

    @JacobStein1960

    Ай бұрын

    @@tariqkhonji6556 Let me remind you that Jordan was also created by the British and it is today a closes ally of the US so Jordan seems to be a "colonial project" as much as Israel is. Also did the Palestinians launch terrorist attacks on the Jordanians during the Jordanian occupation of Palestine? And what do you think the Jordanians would have done about it? In fact when the PLO threatened the Jordanian government in 1970 they were driven out of the country. Sounds to me like ethnic cleansing or a second Nakba. But no one protested it too much.

  • @johnrichie2136
    @johnrichie2136Ай бұрын

    Zionism is an original idea. In principle, I sympathise with the Jewish People's sentiment and their drive to establish a Jewish State in the Land of Israel. However, in practice, I realize that it's a fool's erand. Dispossessing and displacing the Palestinian People to achieve that goal was imoral and remains impractical. That's probably Why Leon Pinsker, a pioneer Zionist, cautioned, "we need a land of our own. And, that Land must not be ancient Judea." The reason why was that Pinsker knew that Land was not available to be had. Same with Albert Einestein. They did not think that it was a great idea. When JFK tried to air his opinion about this matter, someone took him out. Probably saddest chapter in Jewish history.

  • @practice4523

    @practice4523

    Ай бұрын

    You have the said the ultimate truth

  • @7135HOLLY

    @7135HOLLY

    Ай бұрын

    I suggest listening to Wilf's other YT videos (she has her own channel) to better understand history of the conflict. The conflict has nothing to do with land.

  • @johnrichie2136

    @johnrichie2136

    Ай бұрын

    @@7135HOLLY I listened to much of Dr. Einat's material. I did not find it to be persuasive. I can right a book about the subject. Something tells me that you don't want to hear it. So, I'll save you the pain.

  • @7135HOLLY

    @7135HOLLY

    Ай бұрын

    @@johnrichie2136 How can you write a book when you can't spell the word write (instead of right)?

  • @johnrichie2136

    @johnrichie2136

    Ай бұрын

    @@7135HOLLY I take it back. God bless.

  • @mortongarellek9052
    @mortongarellek9052Ай бұрын

    I can’t listen to you Rabbi. You are incredibly negative

  • @jackathanasiou2195
    @jackathanasiou2195Ай бұрын

    This lady has brain washed herself.

  • @oswaldohenriquez7419
    @oswaldohenriquez7419Ай бұрын

    EXCELLENT VIDEO ❤

  • @alrosano5786
    @alrosano5786Ай бұрын

    Don’t mention the dead 💀 children okay 👌!

  • @jessereichbach588

    @jessereichbach588

    Ай бұрын

    We can mention them, it doesnt change ANYTHING. Yizreal has the lowest civ to combatant ratio in all modern urban conflict. Less kids have perished in this war than in Syria, Yemen, Afghan and Iraq each. 14k civilian casualties is EXTREMELY low and they should be thankful Yizreal is such a just and moral army.

  • @andrewackerley9985
    @andrewackerley9985Ай бұрын

    This woman is obnoxious 44:38

  • @jefffeldstein

    @jefffeldstein

    Ай бұрын

    No, she's knowledgeable. What she is saying is quite accurate. Unlike you, she is articulate, rather than making vague statements such as, "This woman is obnoxious 44:38".

  • @jazura2

    @jazura2

    Ай бұрын

    She is a sharp erudite lady and gives a no nonsense perspective

  • @yusefkhan1752
    @yusefkhan1752Ай бұрын

    I listened to her with an open mind. Can we listen to Holocaust deniers with an open mind instead of mean words and jail sentences?

  • @millerbiz

    @millerbiz

    Ай бұрын

    Are you a holocaust denier?

  • @yusefkhan1752

    @yusefkhan1752

    Ай бұрын

    @@millerbiz why can we deny every historical event except this one?

  • @yanivreif7379

    @yanivreif7379

    Ай бұрын

    ⁠@@yusefkhan1752 No one is denying any historical event, don’t be a clown.

  • @yusefkhan1752

    @yusefkhan1752

    Ай бұрын

    @@yanivreif7379 and if someone denies it what’s the problem? You deny Christ am I allowed to call the cops on you and you lose your job? So why double standards?

  • @millerbiz

    @millerbiz

    Ай бұрын

    @@yusefkhan1752 no she has recounted pretty much every opportunity for peace. Let me ask you - do you recognize the state of Israel?

  • @inkipinki8468
    @inkipinki8468Ай бұрын

    What nonsense & lies from eifert!

  • @richardgilbert5339

    @richardgilbert5339

    Ай бұрын

    Precisely what I thought. I listened to a Rabi,82 years old from Palestine who said " ask any Jew what is to be a Jew ?" He said any form of Zionism isn't Jewish, you are only Jewish if you are from Judaih,or you follow Judaism, the Tora and practice the 616 commandments. Most Jews are not pure Jews,many have Palestinian,Arab genes from 2000 years of mixed marriages. I would ask the same of a Christian,what is it to be a Christian ? They mention the Hamas Charter but doesn't Israel have a similar but unspoken charter but only they seek the destruction or expulsion of the Palestinians,be they Jewish, Muslim or Christian. Israel wants peace ? Maybe but on its terms !

  • @saifsaad201286
    @saifsaad201286Ай бұрын

    The word ( aravi ) is ( alavi ) they are the Levites themselves. These jews are just a religious sect, not an origin, and not a race. The Arabs are the original. and I'll give you a hint: Saudi Arabia is not Arabia or the Arabs

  • @millerbiz

    @millerbiz

    Ай бұрын

    Yes Martian are not from Mars. Yet another deluded person

  • @saifsaad201286

    @saifsaad201286

    Ай бұрын

    @@millerbiz U think ? I do not speak without evidence. Son, I can show you 😎

  • @millerbiz

    @millerbiz

    Ай бұрын

    @@saifsaad201286 but do recognize the State of Israel? Lots evidence for that

  • @millerbiz

    @millerbiz

    Ай бұрын

    6million Jews died because of their race.

  • @saifsaad201286

    @saifsaad201286

    Ай бұрын

    @@millerbiz The historical Kingdom of Israel and the Kingdom of Judah are located in another location and other lands than what is imagined. Maps inspired by religious books and historical books and projecting them onto specific lands and countries is a wrong projection. The simplest example is the country known today as Iraq. It is not the historical country of Mesopotamia in the first place. There is no Babylon or Assyria in this land, and also there is no such thing as the Sumerians. This is a term introduced by an American writer at the beginning of the 20th century. There is no such name in the first place. As well as the rest of the designations and maps, the country known as the Republic of Egypt is not the historical Egypt mentioned in the Bible, and the country known as Saudi Arabia is not the country of the land of the Arabs, and a country like Lebanon is not the country of Laban, the name taken from the Bible, and the country known today as Palestine is not Palestine and is not the Holy Lands. The country known as Iran is not Persia at all, and so on

  • @kevmar2567
    @kevmar2567Ай бұрын

    Propaganda and lies.

  • @millerbiz

    @millerbiz

    Ай бұрын

    Nah - just some facts from someone who could see the white of the eyes of the Palestinian leaders.

  • @practice4523

    @practice4523

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@millerbiz Yet another Miller claiming to be from the middle east

  • @millerbiz

    @millerbiz

    Ай бұрын

    @@practice4523 I think I know where I come from or are you going to try and change those facts too. Do you have anything useful to say?

  • @practice4523

    @practice4523

    Ай бұрын

    @@millerbiz Yet another Miller defending colonialism

  • @millerbiz

    @millerbiz

    Ай бұрын

    @@practice4523 still nothing useful.

  • @alrosano5786
    @alrosano5786Ай бұрын

    The victims again!

  • @mns8732
    @mns8732Ай бұрын

    The U N mandated the two state solution without arsb participation and you can find the U N minutes from that time online to read. But in any case, Israel lost its legitimacy by the treatment of the Arabs, and by its assassination of Rabin. This might be your Judaism, but its not mine, and mine tends to have more people alive.

  • @jazura2

    @jazura2

    Ай бұрын

    Israel didn't kill Rabin. Its a country not a person. Rabin had huge support in Israel.

  • @meerzaali167
    @meerzaali167Ай бұрын

    Both of them make me smile as they have a big wish list. They don't want Palestinians to have nationalistic aspirations while claiming themselves to have a divine right. No return for Palestinian refugees while gladly accepting any Jew who wants to live in Israel. Both must kindly invest time to read about Shiite theology and the principle of Shiite struggle and struggle against tyranny and only then they will come to terms with how Iran's message has spread all around middle east and how they have managed to cultivate network all around Israel. Money alone is not sufficient to resist but Zionists refuse to read Shiite theology which is a lot different than the passive sunni Islam.The ongoing situation has made it impossible for Saudi Arabia and his cronies to lead public relationship campaigns in favour of Israel because of popular opinion. Khamenei has been a true successor of Khomeini and a servant of Shiite Islam and has a vivid imprint all around the middle east. Last but not least is the entire world turning up the heat against Zionists in their home countries and withe the numerical disadvantage Zionists have it will only get worse with the passage of time. Time to choose your options wisely. Better invest in a residential property abroad soon before it gets too hard to live there.

  • @salehabu-arisheh9469
    @salehabu-arisheh9469Ай бұрын

    She's liar and trying to defend genocide by non Sense

  • @user-qr5vz5mu5v

    @user-qr5vz5mu5v

    Ай бұрын

    Wow surprise surprise. An arab name salehabu-shhit call a smart jaw a lier when he have nothing smart to say. But please keep showing your true face so israel will not forget to be careful from palastinazis like you and be more more pro military. Keep up the good work i will sent all my kids to be warriors in the idf thanks to you. You destroy the left pro arab in Israel you make israel strong

  • @alrosano5786
    @alrosano5786Ай бұрын

    Who is the oppressor !

  • @jessereichbach588

    @jessereichbach588

    Ай бұрын

    Imperial Izlamb and the Failestines are the oppressor. Always have been, always will be.

  • @alrosano5786
    @alrosano5786Ай бұрын

    What sort of state ? Laughable!

  • @alrosano5786
    @alrosano5786Ай бұрын

    What a waste of a phd !

  • @alrosano5786
    @alrosano5786Ай бұрын

    Greedy !

  • @adelmomarietta3964
    @adelmomarietta3964Ай бұрын

    @gg-rider The problem with Einat Wilf is all her. Arguments are entirely secular. She obviously doesn't believe in the G-d of Israel. She never mentioned the covenant between G-d and the Jews, she doesn't see that the religious beliefs of the Jews and the Muslims make this a deeply religious conflict. She thinks that Jews who wait for. Moschiach and who wish to honour the Temple Mount and the third Temple are just religious nuts and she never grasps the deep feelings of these Jews who see the Land as blessed. She speaks only of the side players,Biden,Trump,Oslo accords.. etc. The whole thing is secular but actually this is a clash of religious beliefs. A spiritual war.

  • @jessereichbach588

    @jessereichbach588

    Ай бұрын

    Because NONE of that matters in regard to politics, international diplomacy or the conflict.

  • @alrosano5786
    @alrosano5786Ай бұрын

    No education? That will do it ?

  • @alrosano5786
    @alrosano5786Ай бұрын

    The students are stupid ?

  • @jessereichbach588

    @jessereichbach588

    Ай бұрын

    Yes, very much so. Marxist ignoramuses.

  • @alrosano5786
    @alrosano5786Ай бұрын

    Who is terrorist!

  • @jessereichbach588

    @jessereichbach588

    Ай бұрын

    Failestines are.

  • @mr555harv
    @mr555harvАй бұрын

    She has a hard time being simple, simple-is hard, her complexity is easy.

  • @jessereichbach588

    @jessereichbach588

    Ай бұрын

    We can make it simple. Failestine is a rotten, morally corrupt Gnatsi society and has no right to exist.

  • @alrosano5786
    @alrosano5786Ай бұрын

    Abraham accord , Palestinians down the drain ?

  • @alrosano5786
    @alrosano5786Ай бұрын

    1967 borders will warranty Israel 🇮🇱 survived!

  • @jessereichbach588

    @jessereichbach588

    Ай бұрын

    There were no 67 borders. Yizreal liberated the WB from Jordan and Aza from Egypt, who had controlled them for the previous 20 years. First time in HISTORY a nation of Pstine was claimed in the WB/Aza was 1968, the year AFTER they rightfully came under Yizreali control. Try again.

  • @alrosano5786
    @alrosano5786Ай бұрын

    And so not true !

  • @noricd
    @noricdАй бұрын

    Bizarre ahistorical brainwashed conversation. I say that as a student of history my entire adult life.

  • @jessereichbach588

    @jessereichbach588

    Ай бұрын

    What was ahistorical? Everything she stated is historically accurate. U dont sound like a very good student of history.

  • @jazura2

    @jazura2

    Ай бұрын

    As a lifelong student of history you didn't say anything! Maybe you weren't a very articulate student😅

  • @What-kw6ox
    @What-kw6oxАй бұрын

    More propaganda 😂. You know this is the end of zio? 5 yrs tops!

  • @jazura2

    @jazura2

    Ай бұрын

    Anything you could discuss or can you only use slogans?

  • @What-kw6ox

    @What-kw6ox

    Ай бұрын

    @@jazura2 sure, I can tell you how the only Jews I met as a kid where violent, abusive and sadiistic. I finally met normal Jews after leaving and now some of the people I admire or even adore tend to be Jews. Jews have had a meaningful impact in the last century on humanity. Z on the other hand is equivalent to Jews as Isiss is equivalent to Muslims. Or it should be anyway.

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