The Future of Pigeon Racing in the UK: Is the Sport in Trouble?
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In this video, I share my project to upgrade my loft's trapping system - an important investment that will help my birds perform their best this season.
I also sit down with respected racing veterans to discuss opportunities for the sport's governing body to thrive long-term. Insightful proposals were made in the past to modernize services, increase efficiency and engagement.
While financial challenges exist, the passion of fanciers remains strong. With open dialogue and willingness to evolve, the future is bright. Members seek transparency and a voice and leadership seeks solutions. Together progress is within reach.
It's an exciting time as the next generation embraces tradition yet seeks positive change. Collaboration between members and those guiding the sport can strengthen it for decades to come. By embracing innovation and empowering all voices, the heart of racing will beat on.
Watch the full interview and subscribe to @pigeonracerTV the new Pigeon Racer KZread channel created for more in-depth racing interviews, reviews and live streams this year.
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Could you put a link to your new channel...can't find it using the search function??
@howtotrainyourpigeon
4 ай бұрын
www.youtube.com/@pigeonracerTV
@AndrewKenmare
4 ай бұрын
@@howtotrainyourpigeon cheers Dan....I've subscribed and look forward to seeing the full video and other content.
@davidmitchard1330
4 ай бұрын
Hello Dan, enjoyed the clip with you, John Water's & Ian Evans, I'm in the SWest Region, is it your intention to submit a letter into your club for the Hall Report to be implemented in full. Council need to wake up & move forward & be compliant with technology that's available instead of being stuck in the 1950. I look forward to your racing clip's this year best of luck.
@howtotrainyourpigeon
4 ай бұрын
@@davidmitchard1330 thanks. I don't think it's something I will (or can?) submit until I've heard what the RPRA's plan is. I'm hoping they've spent the last 2 years making one and we should all be looking forward to what they've come up with, and review it objectively. Failing that, well I don't know.
@kevinkenneally8808
3 ай бұрын
Love the videos great job keep em coming 😊
Great video Dan, good to see you have started to look deeper into the sport but sad to see a new comer doing this and not people who have been involved for many years, as one of the fellas said it always gets left to others to sort out. Keep the videos coming and it would be good to see and up date to see how things are getting on
Ok so been watching your channel so I have decided to take up the sport !! Thank you for your inspiration I’ll also be making a KZread channel as I think animal care is amazing to support veterans with PTSD and could be useful in giving injured veterans a hobby
I’m hoping to take the sport back up again , one off putting thing for me is so many clubs with only a handful of members would rather fly in a club where there was 50 odd members so I know there would be decent competition. Keep up the good work you’re doing.
Thank you for your hardwork raising these issues 😊
Great videos, really promotes the sport. lots of good sense put across. To me I think raising the RPRA fee is rather short sighted as it produces a barrier to entry for new starters. Instead i think an increase in the ring price would be a better option. For example, someone ordering say 200 rings would pay more and debatably use more of the RPRA resources (transfers , stray reporting etc), but its there choice to breed that amount of YBs; however a new starter may only breed say 20 YBs so would pay a smaller contribution and less of a barrier to entry.
@howtotrainyourpigeon
2 ай бұрын
Good point 👍
Dan , well done 👍 . I think people need to open there eyes even with an increase to £35 . Its less than ,68p a week . For crying out loud . Should have been £35 10 years ago
Great content nice to see something more “modern” 😅 I’ve just taken a kit of 12 birds from my dad who’s been flying for the past 10 or so years. Definitely don’t know anything myself about flying however it’s just for me, my wife and the kids to enjoy. Keep up the good work! Nice to see a local lad thanks.
I've been doing this 5 years now. I have never once known when a region meeting is happening. I have never once been empowered to suggest changing the way anything operates. From what I gather, you can raise an issue at the club, if the club votes in favour (getting a dozen pigeon men to agree on a subject is basically impossible) then it can go to a vote at the region which makes it even more unlikely to be agreed. I am only speculating this because as I said, I've never been aware of the regional meetings. The whole organisation needs to operate differently and stop being so wasteful. I agree with you that the increase is not the issue, it should have been this value years ago. The organisation needs to tighten it's belts and create a more automated environment which relies far less on expensive manual processes.
This is the trick I couldn't explain your on it I'd love to have the space I'd be flying too your doing great good luck this year
without people like yourself doing their bit to save a declining sport its going to be tough. modernisation sounds good.I must admit when I raced I sort of took the club & fed secretary for granted. good to see you working on your trapping system its where races are won & lost 👍
@howtotrainyourpigeon
4 ай бұрын
Secretary's are definitely undervalued too. A job very few people will volunteer to take on from the sounds of it.
Tough conversations/topics...but the pigeon sport must modernize and evolve in order to not die. Looking forward to watching your progress this year and to seeing your pigeons race!
@howtotrainyourpigeon
4 ай бұрын
Agreed 👍🏼
@GrahamByrumLoft
4 ай бұрын
@@howtotrainyourpigeon 👍btw...I really enjoy the way you film and edit your videos...I know that takes a lot of time, but it really makes us feel like we're there in the backyard and loft with you!
Brilliant well done and your definitely promoting the sport. Keep up the good work
I watched the episode about the sport struggling and I do think there is a simple answer to helping the sport and I have only been involved 13 days but the answer is clear to me! Have you got a way I can contact you
Once again great video, keep up the work promoting this amazing sport/hobby
Well done m8 👏🏼👏🏼! Greets from Belgium
I like your Videos! Greetings from Germany!
Which country has the best system in place ? Probably Belgians or possibly Dutch . Why don’t we copy their system, with maybe a few tweaks here and there to suit the uk . It needs modernising for sure . It would help If fanciers actually went to meetings and play a part .. it needs a new system with strict rules . There’s also a lot of corruption. All organisations books should be transparent.
@howtotrainyourpigeon
4 ай бұрын
I was talking to someone in Belgium that said they have exactly the same issue 🤷🏼♂️
Hi, fantastic important episode…. The contents so relevant…. More please
@howtotrainyourpigeon
4 ай бұрын
Coming.
Great discussion on that issue Dan, Could you please tell me which camera and mike you are using if you don’t mind. Thankyou 😊
@howtotrainyourpigeon
3 ай бұрын
Gh5 and radio mic. I can't remember which one but any is better than an internal mic.
Good information 🇿🇦👍👍👍
Great video again well done
Dats da way I was trying to explain wen you were building
we need more videos
Thanks
Our club rules state that the pad for a ets system has to be inside the loft the way you have yours set up it is outside so think it's worth checking the rpra rules just to see if your set up is OK 👍
@howtotrainyourpigeon
4 ай бұрын
Yes I've checked and the RPRA rules specifically say birds cannot be timed in the loft is closed. By shutting the landing board/door it closes the loft and prevents the birds from gaining access to the loft and prevents them from timing in. I spent a good while checking because I wanted to make sure it was legal 👍
@stuartfawcett6726
4 ай бұрын
Club rules can't override or contradict Union rules. The trap is within the rules.
Great topical video Dan, well done mate.
@howtotrainyourpigeon
4 ай бұрын
Cheers bud
Too many fanciers won't go with the times Still harking on about the past Pigeon racing has moved on So should the fanciers Regards Fae scotland
I think this was a bad move by the RPRA and I tell you why the large increase in fees is madness because they will only see the benefits from it for only one year here why partnerships with 2 3 or 4 members are looking for next year to fly under one name in turn losing more money in the long run
@howtotrainyourpigeon
4 ай бұрын
Definitely this
@howtotrainyourpigeon
4 ай бұрын
I think taxing partnerships is also counterproductive because having partnerships encourages people into or to remain in the sport that otherwise wouldn't have the time or resources to do so solo.
A live couple of minutes away from the racing duckets good few years back used to be a good batches racers now just a few best part of the sheds now up there are fancy pigeons about 30 flying Gardens and about 6 have the racing pigeons
plz dont put loud music in, i cant watch this at late nite
@howtotrainyourpigeon
4 ай бұрын
Haha turn it down and put subtitles on. Or watch it in the morning 🤷🏼♂️
Another great video dan
@howtotrainyourpigeon
4 ай бұрын
Thanks
Mate what are these clubs all about ? Found my first one ! It reminded me on only fools where del wanted to be a Freemason ! Apparently they vote to see if I’m worthy
In the Us they do intro racers for beginners with no clock - Bands old school 100 mile club the Sport is no longer a working class Sport it is for the rich retired and senile to grow the sport school boys and girls and their family need to be able to race A bird cheap and have FUN. Simple as that a simple 100k, 100 mile race no clocks minimal expense Maximum Fun - nothing else. Then they can grow into the sport as they see fit. A sprint series of 100 200 and 300k would work for people with fewers birds who are time starved. Look at the increased fuel costs for Tossing let's get real?
It’s a nice video
@howtotrainyourpigeon
4 ай бұрын
Cheers
next season will be worse all members paying multi memberships "mr &mrs" & son" will change their names to an individual membership to keep their expences down and the rpra will be down all those paying partnerships
I think Pigeon racing should be modernised into this century as I see lots of fanciers still relying on the old fashioned way eg rubber ring not ETS, also letter posting takes ages when online is faster, make it exciting for young people grab the social media and websites.
@bxgames4070
4 ай бұрын
I have to say I much prefer using rubbers. It feels more exciting and hands on than ets
@matthewwhittleton4519
4 ай бұрын
@@bxgames4070 ok but I think time wasted to chase the pigeon and take rubber off then in the thimble and clocked that’s my opinion
Done a good job there ,don’t think you’re make a artist 😂👍
@howtotrainyourpigeon
2 ай бұрын
Too right!
Too much politics in pigeon racing, puts people off. Certainly puts me off.
@howtotrainyourpigeon
4 ай бұрын
Definitely. But I think ignoring it just kicks the can down the road and has lead to the problem we've got now.
My opinion on the whole situation. Our fed charge £285 Club £20 The guys that are in a very good spot are having great value for money, with winning and not losing birds etc . The guys (me) who are really on a dog leg have no chance of competing. Who wants to buy pigeons that’s are winning in a club but actually are “cheating “ on the results. My pigeons look bad that have over flown with the drag. I understand it’s the rules, but if you had the breaking point and calculate your distance differently, all of the sudden your pigeons will be looking far better pigeons with a chance of having a respectable race results. We’re paying £305 just to send and not competing. We’re missing out on being able to sell birds. It’s about time we can change all this old fashioned way of racing. The future of the sport need changing . Let’s all compete on Saturday instead of the best spot .
The politics is the worst part of the sport 😭
Check out how much the rpra are skint Dan.ive just checking out for a job for a financial assistant.,up to 42k, check it out