Not needing a peep in a low light hunting situation seems like a huge advantage!

I have been using a red dot since the early 90s and have always been a fan of them. The technology has advanced with the ARD so much that it makes it even easier to use. I really like the adjustability for ranging out to further targets. I used to have to mentally remember how high to hold above a deer when it was further out. Great product.

Never thought I’d see a red dot on a bow 😂 you are the man 👍

I'm 70 years old and have been hunting all my life. I remember when our state fish & game commission used to call archery and muzzleloading "Primitive Weapons Season." Those days are gone! I'm glad I switched from compound to barebow recurve back in 1986. Sure simplified my life!

@jayr7471

2 жыл бұрын

I’m right there with you. At this point, in my opinion, compound bows are just spear guns. I’ve hunted with rifle, compound, and trad bows. The feeling I get from a successful trad bow hunt by far surpasses that of using a bow or gun.

@carlosgaztelucabral8061

2 жыл бұрын

@@jayr7471 I wish I could get more deer with a compound. Got like 4 but I have missed many more. Trad bows are super cool but if I can't even be consistent with a compound, I don't think I have any business hunting witha trad bow

This thing is crazy accurate. Been looking for the best sights to help me with aiming however after stumbling on the ARD setup my life changed. This thing is so easy to sight in and once sighted in it's game on. Seemed heavy just looking at the setup but trying it out will blow your mind out of space. The built is well built and for me personally, it's worth the money and very accurate...very easy to getting used to with less stress.

Hope the shop progress is going well! My new coworker and his daughter are sponsored shooters, they just got back from a shoot in Kentucky. Re-ignited my archery enthusiasm while it is MTB season for me right now.

Awesome stuff! I love innovations such as these.

Great Vid. Nate, really like those sights

Just what every deer hunter wants! A sight that makes a nice clicking sound when you adjust the elevation!

I've been eyeballing this sight for a while now. Researched it. It seems totally legit. Now that I've seen this video, just reinforces my own findings. I want it. About to buy a new bow, and this is definitely the sight I want on it. Thanks for a good review on this, and I look forward to your next one on the setup.

Great review. Looking forward to looking at this sight.

Very interesting concept. I'd probably try it out sometime. The beauty of a red dot is that you don't have to have it centered in the tube. It's best if it is for your sight picture, but if it is off to the side of the tube it should still hit where the dot is on the target.

Great review!

I have vision problems too- astigmatism plus old eyes, to boot. This sight looks intriguing, and might even help me. I'll have to check it out.

@thomhawkofficial

2 жыл бұрын

I would be wary if you have an astigmatism, I've had to switch off all but a few red dot sights on rifles because of mine. An astigmatism can blow out or star burst a lot of red dots.

Hi Nate, looking forward to the set up video. I just placed an order for the Elite package of this sight.

I to have been using a Red dot on a home made mount in between the riser and bus cable. It is rugged but it is also out of harm’s way. The point of impact is not effected by location in the scope, as long as I can see it it is spot on. Which is nice for awkward positions & bulky winter clothing.

what a breath of fresh air, i myself was thinking no no no when i saw my sub notification on this. but i tell myself to be open minded. and is that a timing cord served into the cable slide? i thought I've seen it all haha...also noticed the new hotshot vapor, love it

This is awsome. No peep just center the dot in the sight and ur good. Not shooting here past 40 yards in the south eastern Canada anyway this might be the ticket

Very interesting.. good video Nate. I like that you can run it on your shotgun and your bow. That's kinda cool 😎

I have the older Apex pro with the crosshairs scope and the variable green dot at the center of the crosshairs. My favorite hunting sight. Has 11 light intensity settings. Great for hunting pigs after sunset. There’s no post or anything obstructing the field of view.

Anything that helps make a clean ethical shot should be welcomed.

These look really sweet. Are they set up to still be able to mount a quiver?

@averagejackarchery

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Included.

I'm super interested!!! 👌🏿 need it. Gotta have it!

I had to get new glasses this year, and have had nothing but issues with my bow. I take my glasses off and do the best I can. This red dot could be the difference a real game changer. Like a rife scope. You sight in 100, DOPE your scope and rang.. then you learn your hold over or under. Any 100yd and longer range shooter has a book. Do the same with a Archery Red Dot. I'd sight in at 25 or 30...then learn my hold overs and under

Nate! This is awesome! Can't wait until the next video. Hope to see you in the new shop. Any updates?

@averagejackarchery

2 жыл бұрын

Hope to have a video out in the next 24 hours!

Do you prefer this sight over the EZ V sight?

Just need a multi color scope(a green dot) and this sounds like it would be great for me! Stupid eyes have a hard time seeing red. But with the brightness setting it would probably work. But smaller the dot I feel like the more accurate it would be so a green dot would be easier for me to see

I have astigmatism and am far and near sighted as well have had cataract surgery in both eyes… do you think this sight would work for me?

Glad to see that someone finally came out with a quality American made version of this type of sight system for compounds. No peep and the ability to tell instantly if your alignment is off is really cool. Hopefully, this will take off and do well in the market. Glad to hear that the shop is coming along well. I know you will be glad when opening day gets here!

Totally did allot of research on these units a couple months ago, so wish it was legal to use for hunting in Washington State.

I had one of these in the late 90’s

@amyzelenka4403

2 жыл бұрын

Then you will really appreciate all the work that went into improving this Mount set up. This version is high quality, and adjustable for distance. It’s fun for archers that understand the concept to see the improvements my husband made in making this. 🇺🇸

@Gibbs-Bijan-moon

2 жыл бұрын

@@amyzelenka4403 it does look good for sure

I like this Wonder if it adapts to a Matthews bridge lock

I remember when my uncle was buying Oneida bows in the early 2000s he had a reddot on it that would shoot 10yrs to 60yrds and not need to be adjusted.

Soooo like the cp oneida sight back in the day.

HAY ,AVERAGE JACK SIR, , I found the same relatively same design about 35yrs ago ,and I have a handgun scope actually mounted in my sight, but I have also saved back several other pieces of sight bracket tackle, I have been researching and working on a movable open class sight system, but like I said, theoretically I have the exact same dam body mount, I have no doubt there would be subtle differences between yours and mine, but I basically have the same dam sight that you do, but I have redesigned my version up to a point, my design is still on paper,

Wish they had something to simulate a multi pin.... Do u think u could use different positions on the plus sign to do so, almost like drop compensation for a firearm?

@adjustablereddot

2 жыл бұрын

You could do that with the matchdot 2 but it asked away from a red dot being intuitive and not focusing on on the sight

What front stabalizer are you using on the green elite? Thanks

@averagejackarchery

2 жыл бұрын

BowFreak Stabilizers out of Woodland PA

Hope the shop is going well. I wish something like this was ASA legal I would be highly interested but because it’s not that’s probably going to keep me out because almost all of my shooting is ASA and I practice for that

VERY intriguing way to put a single pin on a bow. I do not shoot a Compound (currently Longbow), so forgive the ignorance, but your 2nd Bow's (with Tree-Camo) top-wheel appears to be missing the spokes to maintain the integrity of the wheel? I could see small "screw-features", but the spokes where not there. Just want to make sure that is ok like it was shown...

I wonder how it looks in lower light for those last few minutes of hunting light. I went peepless last year just to help with light in my sight picture. If a company would make one of those thermal or night vision, that would be epic.

@ScuffedEngineer

2 жыл бұрын

Eye relief exists, alternatively if you're looking to shoot in a time that either would be needed, a skull crusher and IR laser would work. Put the tube on your non-dom eye and just get used to shooting the offset of the laser.

You should really look into LASIK. I shoot a lot calibers and my astigmatism dictated what type of optic I could use. That is until now, I had LASIK done and it’s perfect. No more blooming of reticles or pins and my accuracy has never been better, bow and firearms included.

If the red dot isn't directly in line with the string and directly above the arrow isn't it going to be on a different plane? That would mean your windage is going to be different as your distances change. I don't understand why you would want longer arms to offset the sight from the arrow?

i would like to test one and see it how it works

No plans on shooting in competitions, although could I use this Red Dot Sight on the Elite Verdict bow? Thanks!

@averagejackarchery

Жыл бұрын

You bet you can! Will fit any bow that accepts a standard pin bow sight.

I just wonder what company is pushing that sight this time, you just said the company is ultra dot , mine has a curved elevation body slide it compensates for the peep sight,

They have been putting a red dot on compound bows for years. I think the first ones were in the 90's. Had a special bracket to use it as a sight on your bow.

@leonardcavaretta905

2 жыл бұрын

This is nothing new.

@amyzelenka4403

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, my husband has been shooting the original fixed mount for over 30 years. It’s what inspired him to fix everything he wishes the original would do. The ARD is a much needed improvement in quality and most importantly adjustable features for distance. It’s fun to see archers that have seen and understand the concept get their hands on the ARD and appreciate the improvements. There is now a few generations that this concept is new.

@davidleist7587

2 жыл бұрын

@@amyzelenka4403 I’ll agree with you on the adjustability for distance. But there was nothing wrong with the original design or mounting system. Don’t put down something that had nothing wrong with it to push your product. Doesn’t look good.

@amyzelenka4403

2 жыл бұрын

@ David Leist Goodness gracious in no way shape or form am I putting it down. Quite the contrary we love the product, my husband is long time friends of the Pollington family and believe in this product so much we picked up the reigns invested out personal savings to patent the adjustable feature, produce in Michigan and upgrade the materials, and tolerances to make it more available. We also sell a fixed mount too, like the old version because no one else makes them any more.

@fredbear205

2 жыл бұрын

@@amyzelenka4403 I’m from Michigan and remember shooting that original pollington scope! It was awesome but don’t believe it was a legal thing to hunt with.

Man been wondering where your at. Know your busy with the shop, hope all is well and going in the right direction.

@averagejackarchery

2 жыл бұрын

Everything is going great so far! Getting tight on time but we'll be ready!

I’m in search of a new sight…What would be the disadvantages from this to a normal peep setup with a single pin slider sight? And why why don’t any pros use these in competition?

@averagejackarchery

2 жыл бұрын

This style of sight is illegal in competition archery.

Looks like a great sight. Where is it manufactured?

@averagejackarchery

2 жыл бұрын

Like I say in the video, the sight is made in Michigan.

Been shooting a red dot for years

Coming from a AR world I’ve been saying they should come out with a Red dot for compounds over a decade ago. Was hoping Aimpoint would have got into the archery game. Trijicon did with their Tritium bow site. Could never understand why nobody else did.

@urbanarcher3535

2 жыл бұрын

I think the price point has them worried people won’t pay for it. Not that it wouldn’t be worth it bc Aimpoint makes great stuff. Those Trijicon sights never sold because of price

@jayonez137

2 жыл бұрын

@@urbanarcher3535 The Trijicons sold. A bunch of us had them. However there was a defect in the engineering. It had a little bit of head wobble When sight wheel was tightened down. My local shop reached out to them to try to get them to revise the site but they did not seem interested. All their money is in fire arms. I really don’t think the price point would scare anyone in this day and age. A Garman is a $1000 site and a lot of people have them. My Axcel landslyde with ULTRAVIEW scope with doublet lens was about $1000. an Ampoint T2 is cheaper than that.

Is a peep sight needed for the ard?

@averagejackarchery

2 жыл бұрын

Nope!

Curious... how much travel/range can you get out of this sight? While my hunting range is typically 40 yards or less I like to practice out to 100. Is this sight capable of that?

@averagejackarchery

2 жыл бұрын

Video to come!

@timzelenka8163

Жыл бұрын

when we set up for hunting with 500 to 550 gr arrows and sight in a 20 yards we get out to 60-70 yards, for TAC we will sight in at 40 then we can get out to 100 with a light set up like 380 gr arrow

I started shooting red dots on my bow in the mid 90s, they said it was the future back then too.

@amyzelenka4403

2 жыл бұрын

My husband has been shooting the red dot fixed mount for over 30 years. It’s what inspired him to fix all things he wished were on the original. The ARD mount is very high quality and most importantly adjustable for distance. We have noticed the last couple generations have never heard of it and it is new to them. Which is fun to see the over 50 crowd appreciate the improvements and the younger archers try a new to them concept.

@johnwollard8764

2 жыл бұрын

@@amyzelenka4403 I want one but my budget is tight atm. I designed an adjustable mount for the accudot I used to have and it worked very well, I love that I don't need the peep. The setup is VERY forgiving on aging eyes.

Can you set 20,30,40 on the first model you showed?

@averagejackarchery

2 жыл бұрын

Yes!.

Try a handgun scope, it does infact work, I only wished I show photos

I think you forgot to mention that it is very robust and very high quality ... ;)

does the dot cover the target at 100 plus yards.

@adjustablereddot

2 жыл бұрын

A 2 MOA dot is 2 inches at 100 yards

Would like to see someone sight this bow in.

when are you doing your follow up?

@averagejackarchery

Жыл бұрын

Next two weeks!

AIMPOINT had one of those in the nineties 😎

I have a handgun scope mounted in my sight mount

Weight? And where are you putting the arrows?

@amyzelenka4403

2 жыл бұрын

The whole mount system weighs 13oz.

There are existing bow sights with dots that adjust according to the yardage distance digitally inputted. So is the significance that this can’t be used on your firearm as well?

@adjustablereddot

2 жыл бұрын

This is a red dot so you do not use a peep. If you torque the bow the dot is not center, or your form is not correct the dot is not center. Thugs like a garmin are just a lighted sight which you use a peep with. The

@sombojoe

2 жыл бұрын

@@adjustablereddot Ahh, so there isn’t any parallax with this sight? Ate there any crossover sights that are holographic so you can focus on the target and not the reticle?

@adjustablereddot

2 жыл бұрын

@@sombojoe we always focus on the target rather than the dot. Tube style red dots force you to find center faster which allows you to keep Your focus on the target. A smaller holographic sight is ok but not as intuitive. Shooting with both eyes open is really key for fast target acquisition. Tube style like the Ultradot are very tough and can take a beating. They are competition pistol red dots.

@adjustablereddot

2 жыл бұрын

@@sombojoe the dot must always stay centered this is what keeps your anchor consistent, whereas a garmin is moving the pin like on a typical pin sight. We are moving the red dot on the rail but on an arc so your anchor never changes

@sombojoe

2 жыл бұрын

@@adjustablereddot I ask about the holographic sight because typically with a red dot as well as pins you focus on the sight and let the target blur a bit, however a holographic image looks to float out beyond enabling you to focus on the target and also have the reticle in focus wo a parallax as well. However holographic sights like the Eotech and the newer Vortex model is heavy, expensive and battery hungry.

I'm a little confused! This isn't knew tech! My buddy Claude has been doing this for a long time if I remember correctly

Can it work on recurve bows also?

@averagejackarchery

Жыл бұрын

Yes!

I'm sorry to say this but this idea has been done before in the mid to late 80's with the Onida bows ( the strike eagle i think it was ) had something just like this, with a very early version of a red dot for a shotgun.

@amyzelenka4403

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, my husband has been shooting a fixed red dot mount for over 30 years. It’s what inspired him to fix all the things he wished the system did. The ARD is very high quality materials, only weighs 13 ounces and most importantly is adjustable to distance. Tim has been thinking about this for a long time and now has the engineering and high end materials to make it what he wished it was. We enjoy seeing those that know of the concept get their hands on the new system and appreciate all the improvements. It’s been interesting to see the younger generations learn about this technology too.

Where do you mount the laser and grenade launcher lol

I had one years ago. Believe it was bracklin

@timzelenka8163

2 жыл бұрын

A bracklin used a red dot but the mounting system was not built correctly, having very strict tolerances and keeping the mount simple and durable is what makes it work. our patented arc in the dovetail is the key to the adjustable mount keeping the dot aligned with your eye throughout the adjustment range.

Are you still looking through a peep sight with that?

@averagejackarchery

2 жыл бұрын

Nope! Just center the dot in the tube.

@leafinitup1

2 жыл бұрын

@@averagejackarchery That’s so weird to me. I don’t understand how the string doesn’t get in the way, but I’d love to try one

@averagejackarchery

2 жыл бұрын

@@leafinitup1 I know! Took some getting used to, but it works. If one has familiarity with red dots on pistols and shotguns its a very easy switch.

@aldoraine9259

2 жыл бұрын

@@leafinitup1 I've never used a peepsight. I use a verticle pin sight. Just anchored my kisser, then place my pin next to the string. Canting the sight slightly left or right (depending on right or left hand bow) when sighting in is the key. When your pin is next to the string, its as good as or better than using a peep.

Is this allowed in archery competition

@averagejackarchery

Жыл бұрын

The ASA technically allows it in Open Class. I don't know about NFAA and IBO rules.

You’re late to the party. Been using the Pollington red dot for 25 years. But the ARD mount is new. But I’ve seen Tim’s system personally in use. It’s a terrific system. Well built and American made.

I bet it comes complete with a bad case of target panic...

I shot a scope back in the 90's actually I still have scope

@amyzelenka4403

2 жыл бұрын

The old pollington scope works great with the ARD mount. You can just purchase a mount and use your old scope. You will really appreciate the mount quality improvements and adjustability.

So does the slider version move up and down in an arc? Because just moving it up and down on the bow 2 inches will only change the point of impact by the same 2 inches. And it will move your anchor point up and down. Something is funny here.

@NPC-fl3gq

2 жыл бұрын

The front adjustment is micro adjustable and the rear slider is same as usual. So you get your twenty with the micro then just slide the rear for yardage as you'd expect - that's how it sounded to me. But like most sights you can also move it up and down as well, so it clears your arrow etc.

@averagejackarchery

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! More to come on that in later videos. The slider model is on a machined arc.

@lloydwellington5271

2 жыл бұрын

I have an Eotech archery sight from back in the day. It came on a HHA single pin style mount. And yes it was only good for one distance. The Eotech made mount was an arc, but the arc was optimized for one FPS. And of course all the bracketry was below the sight, limiting the distance shots.

@kylergiroux2831

2 жыл бұрын

2 inches of movement with the sight is much more then 2 inches of change in point of impact. The gaps between your pins in ur bow sight are what 1/8 to 1/4? But ur point of impact can be many inches difference based on the distance your shooting at. It’s not a 1 to 1 comparesent. Not how shooting anything works.

@shanerRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@kylergiroux2831 For a normal bow sight with a peep or with iron sights where you only move one sight, you are correct. If you move a red dot such as this straight up and down it will only change the point of impact the same amount as you move the sight. It would be the same as moving both front and rear sights up or down an equal amount. It sounds like Nate is going to explain this in an upcoming video.

Call me old, but I'll stick with my 5 pin. Pretty neat though

Really putting the emphasis in how compound bows are just vertical crossbows.

@troybengel691

5 ай бұрын

no comparison, one is hand held, with physically holding the weight the other is a crossgun

@Bowfella

5 ай бұрын

@@troybengel691 Lol physically holding what weight? 12lbs? That doesn't count as drawing a bow. But keep thinking you're doing archery with your training wheels.

@troybengel691

5 ай бұрын

idiots

If I could shut your mouth with the sight system that I have from 25yrs ago, I HAVE A HANDGUN SCOPE 2-7x32, AND I USE IT AS MY bow sight, my sight mount has a vertical arc in it ,it is to 40" browning compound bow from the 90s, my door is open if anyone else wants to know anything else

Looks heavy

@adjustablereddot

2 жыл бұрын

13oz

anyone ever played far cry new dawn? that digital sight? i want it...

Man i dunno. Had them on rifles in army and have several on personal rifles...i would never do that. Bows can't shoot flat enough to make them viable on vertical bows.... unless you shoot an underspined twizzler

I love the idea, Yet at those prices. Not something I would invest in.

Well you can’t use it a single pin slider as it’s fixed.

@NPC-fl3gq

2 жыл бұрын

Only the fixed version is fixed. There's a slider version that mounts it on a regular sliding style mount.

Looks pretty cool but I’m almost positive it’s not legal in NY

@adjustablereddot

2 жыл бұрын

It is legal in most states other than stated that do not allow electronics on a bow. It does not magnify or project a beam.

Hey y'all, here's a great new product. See, I got it mounted on several bows! Let me tell you all about it! ...But I'm gonna make you wait, you know, keep you in suspense, to see how it actually performs! Simply ran out of time I guess? 🤯

@averagejackarchery

2 жыл бұрын

Thats actually the new model novels, TV series, and movies: everything takes one episode or just a handful of pages and there's no extra detail or careful thought put into anything. I should consider doing the same, I guess.

@techstuf4637

2 жыл бұрын

@@averagejackarchery Don't get me wrong, thanks for revealing this interesting new device, but a lot of us hunters are more practical, no nonsense types, that don't have time for "new model novel" suspense and such. We just want to see if a new product actually works. You know, while there might be enough time to actually get the product before the economy implodes, and American life descends into a dark version of one of those new model novels you were talkin about. Just an idea.

@adjustablereddot

2 жыл бұрын

If there is something you would like know more about give me a call or check out some videos I have on KZread. Thanks Tim zelenka

Assume that this not legal in Oregon.

I Think the IDEA is COOL, But When SHTF happens and there are no BATTERIES, it leaves your sight completely useless.

Shame they kill the deal with price for the average jack shooter..

This and a holo sight made it possible for me to shoot again with astigmatism and weaker sight. That it's not "legal" in sanctioned events is silly. It's a handicap to have poor vision. Besides that, it's not much of an advantage in accuracy. Some would argue just the opposite when not magnified at all. I'd prefer a peep and fiber optic, but can't use them. Legality per state, that's a whole different ball of stupid and prohibitionists will always take away what they can despite logic. Remember when pistol braces were for handicapped people?

That's for the people who don't have the heart to dedicate to the training that is required to be a real Archer

@paulcolone5617

2 жыл бұрын

A dedicated archer is something we all wish we had the time to aspire to. That being said, not everyone can shoot an hour a day heck even an hour a week. I like hunting a lot and I am very dedicated to the sport I want to be a great shot when that big buck steps out from the brush. The ARD simplifies the shooting and sighting process. It's really amazing after using the sight for 30 min you will experience how easy it is. If the ARD can help people be more comfortable with taking that big shot. I think that's great!

Surprised the red dot doesn't show your stigmatizim worse. It does with mine

@adjustablereddot

2 жыл бұрын

It could it varies depending on the severity. If it is not good with one it probably won't change with another red dot possibly a green is better but size and brightness could change it.

@michaelchristensen5421

2 жыл бұрын

@@adjustablereddot I have only tried open emitter red dot sights, nothing closed to see if this helps as well. Also don't know if it is reflecting on my glasses as well. I am near sighted so taking them off I cannot tell.

World record saying 'actualy' most time in a KZread video !!!

Sure there are a lot of potential pros of using this but lets just ask ourselves a few questions: does someone really need an animal that bad? Do you really need to shoot an animal at that low light of condition? With the advancement of bows, releases, cell cams, are we tipping everything in our favor too much? , Why not just admit that the animal got away. Technology is great but is it the way to go

@Bobbylegs37

3 ай бұрын

Between deer and especially hog populations absolutely exploding lately, along with the current drop off in new hunters, anything that keeps new people interested in hunting to any extant and bagging animals is a pro.

Them been out for 25 years just a little different

$500+ Americans. Plus, if you want to use a non battery powered holo site, a decent one is an additional $500+. Five times what I have in my bow alone. I guess us poor folk still gotta use our peeps. Wish I could get free gear to use for a few minutes of video

Tech.... trying to buy a good score.

I don’t understand why red dots are new technology that’s still evolving in archery. Why would a small rifle red dot not work fine? It’s also not a red dot scope. It’s a red dot optic. A scope is an optic with adjustable magnification. Just doesn’t make sense why this isn’t following fire arms more closely. Like using red dots.

Illegal for hunting in Colorado = useless to me. Cool tech though.

the optic itself looks like any cheap sight you can buy on amazon, those long tube-style sights are very outdated. The glass looks to have a very harsh tint to it, meaning the battery life is not very well optimized. The reticles could be useful for bow shooting, but I dont like the ones they have selected. Getting a good reticle with an accurate bdc would be very difficult. All that coupled with the mount being $400 is insane. Hard pass.

@aldoraine9259

2 жыл бұрын

You should research it more. Its not cheap quality.

@adjustablereddot

2 жыл бұрын

Ultradot red dots are high quality competition pistol red dots lifetime warranty. Tube style red dots are much more intuitive.

@davidleist7587

2 жыл бұрын

You couldn’t be more wrong.

this is nothing new , i started shooting a red dot on my onieda black eagle back in 99 or 2000 and still shoot it today