"History doesn't repeat but it rhymes" Excellent quote.

@zojo4486

Жыл бұрын

George Lucas?

@doublepromo8240

Жыл бұрын

I recall someone saying history doesn't repeat itself; people repeat history.

@HAbarneyWK

Жыл бұрын

@@zojo4486 Mark Twain

@Gettothegone

10 ай бұрын

Mark twaine To think we’re in some unique historical moment is solipsism run amok

@MrSkinnyWhale

10 ай бұрын

​@@GettothegoneMark Tuwayne*

“Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.” The quote, from a postapocalyptic novel by the author G. Michael Hopf, sums up a stunningly pervasive cyclical vision of history.

@nathanaelsallhageriksson1719

Жыл бұрын

The thing I find interesting is the reason it's so pervasive is that it holds shreds of truth, just large enough for people to see and connect to what they know, yet so small it's logical they're overlooked by most.

@alajndress

Жыл бұрын

It's total delusion. There's no exact measurement for a "time" and there is no specific criteria to differentiate Hard Time A from Hard Time B. And a bigger destroyer of this foolishness is that there has NEVER been a good time. For every winner there is a loser. It's evidence that we have much less losers AND simultaneously much less winners than we think. A paradox that is meant to free strong organisms but imprisons weak ones.

@colinpierre3441

Жыл бұрын

Sounds plausible at first, but this makes more sense... "Hard times create strong men, strong men gain absolute power, absolute power corrupts, corruption creates hard times." This quote is from me lol, using observation, discernment and my knowledge of history.

@toddreddick4600

Жыл бұрын

Colin you missed a key concept of the quote to make your point and in doing so exemplify it’s meaning. The good times. I understand your quote can’t be valid if these good times exist. But they do. Strong men do take power. Weak men do not, they watch and complain. Did you listen to this young woman. She’s quite intelligent. Why would you try and hijack her video to regurgitate this woke nonsense?

@colinpierre3441

Жыл бұрын

@@toddreddick4600 Not sure if you know what "woke" means lol, but it's based on ideology rather than facts... and I was only spitting a fact. Also, being knowledgeable about something doesn't necessarily equate to being "intelligent". Wisdom and knowledge are different things, although a certain amount of knowledge is required for one to be wise. These "good times" are good for who exactly? To me it seems that it's good for the greedy/ignorant "strong men" who seem not to be concerned with how the system that they've designed to be "pleasurable" is slowly destroying society and will soon destroy them. Weak men actually play along in the pig pen and don't complain or question it... but the brave men call out the strong men and expose them for their self centered and toxic deeds.

Oh my god, it is so refreshing to have someone relaying information without editing and cutting up sentences, paragraphs, or relying on flashy images to help convey information. I will seek out this book, it sounds very interesting!

This young lady has a wonderful way of expressing ideas. She weaves in the facts so carefully into the story that one hardly notices they are being taught soemthing important. I would definitely like to hear more from her

I find this young lady fascinating. Her breath and depth of knowledge and willingness to learn and expand her horizons is impressive. Her spot on commentary on various subjects is refreshing. She inspires hope for the younger generation and you can tell she will accomplish great things in her life.

@wavecycle

Жыл бұрын

Also she's beautiful ;)

@0saintclark0

Жыл бұрын

Do you mean "depth and breadth"?

@VanillaGorilla541

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely I was drawn to her immediately, so inspiring...

@highvoltageswitcher6256

Жыл бұрын

“impressive” insert artificial lung breathing sound “most impressive”. The force is definitely strong with this young lady. I assume she is a literature graduate? She’s definitely smart (proper smart) and very perceptive for her age. 👍🙂👏

@TheGabrielPT

Жыл бұрын

and she's also cute as hell 🥰

A similar cycle you can easily find in scripture. People, as a whole, tend to follow the cycle of: Humility -> Prosperity -> Pride -> Collapse -> (Repeat).

@7StringBlazer

10 ай бұрын

I made that connection too -- it's ad nauseam until Jesus returns

@emceeboogieboots1608

10 ай бұрын

@@7StringBlazer He must find it an entertaining show then🤔 People will still find an excuse as to why He is great and just for allowing it to go on ad nauseum

@7StringBlazer

10 ай бұрын

@@emceeboogieboots1608 Mercy, is one reason. What would be 'just' about telling someone not to do something, and they do it anyway, and then shielding them from their own consequences? No one learns that way. We continue to fail until we realize we'll continue to fail without Him.

@skepticalfaith5201

10 ай бұрын

@@7StringBlazer Except the history of Israel shows how little we learn from history.

@Anonymouse405

10 ай бұрын

​@skepticalfaith5201 one would think that holding the jewbious record for 109 expulsions throughout history would wet the appetite of the average enquiring mind 🤔💛

You have made me travel back in time to my childhood and being born 76 years ago I am able to see what you mean. I can sense those periods of time when things changed as you have described. I would like to think deeply about this and thank you for a great presentation that is important and helpful in this world of seemingly endless conflict. There is hope! ❤

@atr4454

9 ай бұрын

Hope in what?

@gordonmitchell729

9 ай бұрын

@@atr4454 as the turning moves into a better ’ next’ phase, things will improve and together we can make positive changes. That’s the hope that we can have if we spread our vision.

You speak so clearly with precision of language. What a gift! I appreciate this explanation, thank you kindly. Will definitely be returning to this channel to hear you speak, and will share this with others. I can see your fascination with the subject matter, and that's what interested me the most; the passion. Thank you again.

To get flow and peace when quoting information as smooth as you do is a gift....Well done. You have the art of keeping us comprehending with your tones.

Excellent synopsis. You have a gift for communicating complex and important ideas in very understandable language and diction. Bravo!

@linic99

9 ай бұрын

Agreed.

@poppyseeds1844

8 ай бұрын

Have to inform my husband of this theory--he's a voracious reader of history and biography (mainly), but I think he'll be intrigued by this!

Wonderful explanation! I've been following Howe's interviews and explanations on KZread for two decades, and you just gave the best overview I know of. Thank you so much! I just liked and subscribed, as should everyone else that reads this and gets what the person in this video is saying. If you don't understand, God have mercy on your soul. Seriously.

Clear and concise! Also, it would have been so easy to politicize something like this, yet you resisted the temptation. That's class. Thank you!

@outlawz38

9 ай бұрын

Because politics are also on a cycle, so to pick a side would be dumb and counterproductive to the summarizing of the book

Great job... I do think that history repeats itself. We (generations) are driven by the same (generational) teachings; one generation is driven by anger and war; the next by peace and unity; the next by passiveness and entitlement then self-absorbance and greed and then back to anger and war... I wish this could have sounded more erudite. Thank you for your content, I always learn from it.

@KARENboomboomROXX

10 ай бұрын

It's all driven by those in control. Propaganda, TV etc.

@nightswimmer5357

10 ай бұрын

You sound erudite to me…very well put and in language concise enough to pass along… thank you. We learn together 🌊🌊🌊

@tubecated_development

10 ай бұрын

@@KARENboomboomROXXIt’s also driven you, ‘the mob’

@KARENboomboomROXX

10 ай бұрын

@@tubecated_development no, say it ain't so. Anyway I'm not in the mob, I'm in the woods. I have no interest in mob mentality

I found The Fourth Turning to be an interesting book for those who haven't thought about life cycles that in depth. When I learned about the book some years ago I thought it was just common sense. A good spring brings more fruit in the summer which means populations thrive, when populations thrive there is more competition and chaos because winter is indeed coming and the level of death you see is staggering. It's no different for humans than it is for any other animal or nature itself, the timings just change a little. You can see the same thing on a small scale in terrariums over time. I think the biggest misconception I see is people thinking we can somehow avoid the cycle and just stay in a perpetual summer of plenty. There is this phenomenon where a state of being in which things aren't good but are "good enough" is far worse than things being so unpleasant that it spurs you into action.

@shanedbunting

10 ай бұрын

We've been living in the good enough since 1993

@charlesandrews2360

10 ай бұрын

It's called Malthusian Economics based on a book written in 1798.

@CasuallyAuthentic

10 ай бұрын

​@charlesandrews2360 which all comes from astrology, which has been around much, much longer.

@charlesandrews2360

10 ай бұрын

@@CasuallyAuthentic The moon is in the seventh house and Jupiter is aligned with Mars. We are in the Age of Aquarius.

@CasuallyAuthentic

10 ай бұрын

@charlesandrews2360 lol, that is a song and has nothing to do with what i am saying. Fyi, moon is currently in the first house and Venus, Uranus, Jupiter, Mercury, and Mars are in "alignment". We are either in the age of pisces going into aquarious or are already in aquarious. Nobody really knows. My reference was to the individual souls snapshot and Dharma as well as planetary transits and aspects.

Very interesting. And you're just perfect for this kind of thing. Your voice, tone and delivery are genuinely perfect for this.

I've seen numerous Podcasts by many different individuals on many different. Subjects. I really must say, it was very well presented, informative (I have heard this theory before)and spoken very well. When considermg you were not surrounded by sound proofing, elaborate sets, or expensive equipment, it was exceptionally well done. Thank you

You did a phenomenal job of giving us a brief synopsis. It was very interesting 😊

This is an excellent summary of the book. I read it around 15 years ago as part of a training and certification I received related to the financial industry. It is especially interesting when you can be exposed to the book at a young enough age (as I was) to be able to see the turnings happen later in your life. I hope you have the same experience.

@mikah4051

10 ай бұрын

Introspective young lady.

Dear Mis Protocol, I saved this video to my 'watch later' because I found the title fascinating. And the way you explained it all was accessible and well nuanced. I've NEVER heard of that but boy it's intriguing. You've got a new subscriber. Have a great day/week. David

A refreshing change to find someone so adroit, articulate and well spoken in their delivery.

I'm very grateful for you talking about this. I'm alone so often and read so much that it's so nice to see someone else interested in learning the how's and whys behind life. Like a breath of fresh air.

Thank you for highlighting the ideas of this unique book, THE FOURTH TURNING by Howe and Strauss. I read it when it came out in 1997 and I found it to be extremely valuable in putting the events of the last 25 years in a long-term perspective that helped me not to freak out about how weird things have become in 2023 when there is so much division in our country. Howe (and Strauss, now deceased) juggle insights from 'History, Sociology, Economics, Social Philosophy and Culture' in an integrated way that expands one's thinking by leaps and bounds! I have come to recognize the generational rhythms of our society through time - in terms of regularly changing seasons from Spring to Winter - and understand how we arrived at our present 'Winter of Discontent.' Still, I'm going to do my level best to weather the social crisis we are now in the middle of - and help to launch a new trajectory of social history for the generations to come. cheers!

@dethray1000

10 ай бұрын

everything is in cycles and nothing is new--humans have been thru this many times in world history--humans have been nearly wiped out many times for various reasons in the past, will be once again...nukes

@bchristian85

9 ай бұрын

The authors jumped the gun a bit trying to predict the crisis event. It wasn't 9/11, the war on terror, or the 2008 recession. It was the legalization of same-sex marriage, which began a "cold civil war" between those who believe the US should be governed by Biblical laws and those who believe it should be a secular democracy. The legalization of same-sex marriage is when politics shifted from "conservatives and liberals are all real Americans and want the same goals, we just disagree on how to get there" to "conservatives and liberals want a completely different America and there can be no compromise or reconciliation between the two visions." That paved the way for Trump to rise to power. Trump is the crisis POTUS.

@classyjade7857

9 ай бұрын

@@bchristian85don’t forget about racism. Ppl love to act like that doesn’t exist. His rise to power had more to do w/ this country’s original sin & the hate that is conditioned into some making them falsely believe they are superior bc of their skin tone. Declining demographics & a racially changing America is the main reason. More socially acceptable reasons such as gay marriage are used to sugar coat the most offensive reason.

Your summary of the book as it relates to our current era is succinct, engaging and thoughtful. Thank you for sharing this analysis. I have a young daughter and I hope one day she's able to think deeply, form independent conclusions and present her thoughts as magnificently as you did here! 👏

I like this mix up. I hope to hear you speak and explain topics more often. You’re very intelligent and well spoken. It’s a pleasure to hear you speak.

I love knowing that people think this way, and others will take their time to explain it to me ! Thank you so much ! 😊

Great summary! I'm a therapist and I found this book incredibly interesting and helpful in my work with clients who are struggling in some way as a result from the cultural crisis we find ourselves in. Highly recommend!

@samsmom400

10 ай бұрын

"Cultural Crises"??? What do you mean by that.

@lseger62

10 ай бұрын

All these unwavering agendas and political divides, almost a civil war of ideas. Gaslighting galore. Not sure how you don't see that.

Glorious stuff! This magnificent lady expands her knowledge in new and interesting directions with each vid Being obsessed with history, I was always looking for the grand pattern, this fine chap seems to have nailed it. Here's to learning from history!😆

It’s so cool to see you reading this. I think it is important for all generations to bridge the generation gap. Keep up the good work!

I’ve read this book twice. Very good. Very relevant. It’s good to have an idea of where we’re going. Their analysis of the generational archetypes are pretty accurate.

First time commenting on your channel, though far from the first time watching. That was fascinating - thank you. I've been very mindful of history repeating recently, but I'd never considered it from the perspective of a 4 generation cycle, or the different life experiences that come from whichever stage you happen to be born during that process. Got me thinking... which I like!

@NoProtocol

Жыл бұрын

Hey John! Glad you took something from the video, that’s awesome. Thanks for taking the time to write (:

Love this. It's true. There are a lot of philosophers who describe seasons like this... as well as motivational speakers and other influential leaders. It's really cool how you and the the writers describe what happens in each generation though...the psychology of how each season affects a group of people. The book sounds like a great read - I bought it through your affiliate link! Thanks for sharing your insights with us! ❤️💓💕

@poppyseeds1844

8 ай бұрын

Reminds me of Jung's collective unconscious writings. Now I want to brush up on things.

Great job breaking it down! Very insightful.

Definitely keep doing these! I love book recommendations, I'll need to get a copy of this.

Damn. What do we need to do to get you to 1M subs? Your content is great. I've never heard of this book, but I'm gonna go find it now to read. Thank you for the introduction. We are in a time of crisis. It's a crisis of not listening to one another any more. Which is paradoxically kind of a truism: obviously in an age of super-communication, our instincts will veer us towards communicating only those with whom we agree. But contrary information is always the most useful in forming opinions. My vote is to continue this theme. Your reaction vids are great, but you clearly have a lot more going on upstairs than just reactions. Society needs your balanced, respectful and insightful commentary. Bring it on.

This is the only video of yours I have watched, and I have watched it multiple times. Great job explaining this concept, I have subscribed. :)

Fascinating concept! I first learned about it maybe 10 years ago. You did a great job explaining it.

You did an excellent job summarizing this book. I remember it really resonating with me when i first read it back in the early 2000s. While it's no prophesy, it can certainly provide some useful guidelines to help navigate through uneasy times. The book that came before it, Generations is also worth reading with a lot more historical analysis.

So interesting! I think I’ve heard about this before, but now I want to know more, thanks to your excellent presentation. I’m a boomer, by the way, born right after WWII. I didn’t turn into a rebel or hippie, but was certainly affected by the dynamics of my generation. I’ve subscribed to your channel. Cheers!

@yachtub

10 ай бұрын

Ditto

I appreciate you sharing this. I have a lot of people around me freaking out and panicking. This type of thinking and logical approach to the state of the world is helping me stay resilient

As a first-timer on your page, great review! I think it's fair to say that history rhymes in its cycles because of unresolved problems. Without those kinds of resolutions, our cycles will continue to reset. I'm just thinking out loud.

Excellent lecture, thank you. You are a great communicator

I recently (2 years ago) read this book and thought it was spot on in some parts.. eerily so. Thanks for sharing it with more people

@NoProtocol

Жыл бұрын

I’m glad you’re read it before! I thought the same at some parts as well. Thought provoking, to say the least. Thanks for stopping by

New follower, excellent rendition of your “general gist”! Fourth turning is a level up, great thing are just around the corner!

Nice video , well spoken, no wasted chatter very informative ,condensed , perfect flow

So thankful to have come across your channel. Your articulation is refreshing and welcomed. Looking forward to exploring more of your content. Curious to know if you’d be open to exploring the correlation between these generational storylines, and astrology. Discovered this while researching trends in the stock market, and noticing patterns with planetary aspects. Still a novice, but there is a pattern with water sign energy/flow and the flow of money, or currency (currents). Feb and March of 2023 have significant planetary action. There are more dates to note, but March 23, 2023, when Pluto enters Pisces, was the latest aspect to capture my attention.

Thank you. You did a really nice job of summing up and explaining the book. I appreciate it.

Great video. In grad school my econ professor was a big proponent of cliometrics or the study of political cycles and he recommended this book. I would have to go back through it again so I could talk about it with some confidence but I love your conclusion at the end and you can't go wrong with Twain quote....ever.

I am captivated by mimics, micro expressions, sudden sparkles in eyes through out the video, which all seem to betray a hyperactive, sparkling bright mind genuinely curious about everything. New to your channel.

I have a bone to pick with you @no protocol. You keep making good content with amazing reading suggestions and it is severely cutting into my video game time. In all seriousness, I just got done with Magicians of the Gods, then i read Frisco Pigeon Mambo (nice change of pace) and now I am reading The Myth Of Normal. When I'm done with that book I will be reading this one next. Please keep up the good content, I am sharing your channel with everyone I know because you have quickly risen to the top of the ranks of my favorite content creators.

@NoProtocol

Жыл бұрын

I haven’t read any of the books that you’ve mentioned, I’ll look into each of them. Also, thank you Allen (:

@Owlincoup

Жыл бұрын

@@NoProtocol if your looking for a fun light read, Frisco Pigeon Mambo is good for that. It's written by CD Payne who wrote Youth and Revolt and I fell in love with those books in my late teens early twenties. Magicians of the Gods and The Myth of Normal are both more thought provoking books that will keep your brain busy. If you do read them I hope you enjoy them, I sure did/am.

Well done. I first heard of the book Generations from a friend when it was first out. It was an interesting conversation but I didn't read it until I started noticing some of the things that we discussed actually happening around 2002. Stil then I have kept reading on the subject. I read The Fourth Turning back in the 90's and this was a good glimpse into it.

Hi, I am a first timer here to your channel, and I really enjoyed your description and take on this book, The Fourth Turning, that I was completely unaware of. Based purely on the title of the book, I was afraid that the book was going to be some crazy conspiracy theory nonsense. Instead it was quite logical and seemed to have a lot of merit behind it. You have a wonderful quality to your voice that would be great for audio book narration. I have ADD and you are one of the first content providers here on KZread that managed to keep my interest and attention while I followed every word you said, without the usual triggering of my mind to go off on an internal monologue or tangent. I just became a subscriber and look forward to watching your past library of KZread videos as well as your future ones.

Just discovered this channel. Where have I been? Excellent, concise and funny. Subbed!

Would love to read this book. NP - you have done a tremendous job with what you bring to the table for everyone here.

Just found this today, almost a year later. Thank you for such a succinct summary of the concepts in the book. I think I need to go find a copy!

Excellent presentation. Great video!

Just thank you. The world takes such fascinating and seemingly dangerous turns. Finding someone so bright and articulate like yourself brightens my day. B. Alexander

Always a pleasure to listen to an educated, well-spoken intelligent person share their knowledge and thoughts on an interesting subject - thank you!

@Muppet-kz2nc

8 ай бұрын

an entertaining piece of fiction. gotta love these prophetic books that take a myopic American history perspective. better off watching Ray Dalio's Changing World Order if you want substantive global perspective.

@scottmb99

8 ай бұрын

@@Muppet-kz2nc Thanks for the tip!

Some historians attribute these natural cycles as having to do with the natural span of an empire. I think the most prominent driving factor of these cycles is "living memory." As wise as we like to fancy ourselves and studious of history. Living memory seems like a very powerful force driving history no matter how hard we try to learn from the past we can't escape living memory.

@donaldduck830

2 ай бұрын

Or rather: Most people are too ignorant and too dumb to learn from history and not make the same mistakes others made before.

@hughjass8430

27 күн бұрын

Indeed. I put these cycles simply down to the human life span. The people born during or just after WW2 arrived into a time of rebirth, hope and optimism. They engendered that into their kids (Gen X and Millenials) and tried to instill values about, let's say good citizenship which their own parents literally fought for. By the time GenZ comes around these values and the time and place they come from seem absolutely archaic. The exponential growth of technology has only served to deepen this phenomenon. So now we face into a renewed time of chaos and danger, simply because the last time we experienced it is beyond living nmemory

Awesome breakdown!!! I’ve probably listened to this on Blinkist 50 times lol. As many times as this may be, I’ve tried to explain it to my son so many times without success. GenX to GenZ. His processor speed is fast than mine. Thank you. I’ll send this over to him now. We’ve always had great conversations but since he started college a couple years back, it gets deeper and more mature 👊🏼😎

For every season turn, turn, turn…. Enjoyed your video. Thanks for sharing.

Great video, as usual. I think history repeats because most people frustratingly don't learn from the past, including their own past.

@genox3636

10 ай бұрын

Also remember, history gets omitted by groups per interest.

@elainealibrandi6364

10 ай бұрын

@@genox3636 Absolutely!

I’m 21 so considered Gen Z and what I find really interesting is that statistically Gen Z is the least interested in drugs, alcohol, casual sex. Which would follow the theory in the book as well. Mental illness is also rampant but there are a LOT of “artistic” personalities in my generation. I’ve also always been called “thoughtful” or wise growing up so I’m wondering if it’s just because I grew up in chaos. To me it seems when you grow up in a chaotic world you feel a pull towards a peaceful, simple life. You feel a strong desire to leave the world as we know , because it feels so unstable and unpredictable. This is further emphasized in the popularity of minimalism, cottage-core, etc.

@HeatherHolt

6 ай бұрын

This makes sense, as when the hippies of the 60s became a thing it was pushing back against the 40s and 50s lifestyle of prim and proper. So they wanted to rebel. Now being the “rebel” is the normal thing and being reserved is the odd thing. We always want what we don’t have, I think. We always think the grass is greener. I also believe gen z or many of them have such a skewed view on socialization due to social media, even things like reading books seems rare since textbooks are mostly digital, people read on their phones if at all, and with the amount of news constantly being reported 24/7/365 yet we are all still falling into echo chambers bc so much stimulation makes us numb. And that refers to all of us, not just you gen zs. I know I’m personally bad about instead of reading a book, I’ll go to KZread and watch several analyses of it. Bc I just can’t seem to sit down long enough and pay attention to words on a page, more than a few pages, at least.

@Kez-The-Pez

4 ай бұрын

I feel the same way!

I really enjoyed your intelligent and crystalline presentation here. A pleasure to listen to as well as informative and non biased. I will read this at your recommendation !

Very well done. This was an excellent explanation of this subject. 👏

I found the book for download and plan to read it - thanks for the reference. I'm intrigued by the idea of cycles. The place where I've noticed them has been in the arts - esp music. There is the composer that experiments with something completely new, there is the one that takes the new style and refines it, then there is the composer that represents the pinnacle or apotheosis of a style - after that, it's back to the one that experiments with new stuff. It makes perfect sense to me that broader intellectual trends follow cycles as well. Anyway, thanks again for the book suggestion. I also subscribed your channel - it looks very promising.

Reminds of the book Pendulum by Roy Williams and Michael Drew. They also follow the 80 year cycle although they see us swinging from we to me generations. 20 years to peak me, twenty years back to balance, 20 years to we, 20 years to balance and so on. We generations value the group, doing what’s right for others, but attack outsiders. Then society swings back to a me generation valuing individuality and becoming self centered and outlandish in an attempt to be unique. It’s a pretty interesting read.

This is a fascinating concept! Thanks for sharing.

thank you for summing it up this well. learned a lot.

I just started this book a few weeks ago. Being a Gen X Nomad I do see parallels to the current scenarios that have evolved since the book was written.

Sounds like an interesting book and paradigm. One small critique might be that it's probably pretty easy to find these patterns in a relatively short period of time, i.e., Revolutionary War to current. My guess is that it's more difficult to ascertain these Turnings in other places with far longer timelines.

Immediately bought half way through your video :) Thanks as always.

One video, aaaaaannd... Subscribed!! It's Adding to the theories/frameworks mentioned for comparison in this thread: For me, it's reminiscent: (roughly, in ways) of Integral theory re the way it outlines/describes the drivers underpinning major (usually multigenerational) worldview/paradigm shifts in societies throughout human history.

Thank you for sharing. Definitely thought provoking and as a millennial, you’re right, I’m optimistic 😊 As I’m getting wiser I’ve noticed a cycle as well as a pattern of allowing ego and emotions to keep us in the cycle. But I guess that’s life and human nature.

History does rhyme, with a staggering degree of accuracy. I truly hope that isn't the case for this time period, but if it does, I'd recommend everyone be prepared. Much love to everyone, and great choice of book.

@dethray1000

10 ай бұрын

we are in war cycle now--the only difference is huge,nukes.....

Excelent communicating! I feel as though some of the brain cells I've lost over the years somehow sprang back to life. Great content!

Really enjoyed this . Looking forward to reading it.

I remember buying this book in the late 90s and becoming completely enamored with the message and patterns. I’ve continued to consider all of the contemporary news and events in the years since in light of the pattern. I sometimes wonder if we are about to emerge into the next 1st turning very soon.

@bchristian85

9 ай бұрын

When we can solve the culture war, we'll go into the first turning. I'm hoping we can do it without civil war in the USA. These are incredibly dangerous times. If the US is going to have a second civil war, it will start within the next three years. I'm an extreme pessimist about the present reality, but I'm optimistic about the 2030s because I believe if we can get through the next few years without the cold civil war going hot, we'll move into a new first turning in the 2030s.

READ THIS BOOK YEARS AGO, LISTENED TO IT ON AUDIBLE LAST YEAR. I REALLY ENJOYED IT AND TRULY BELIEVE IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. LOVE WHAT YOU ARE DOING WITH YOUR CHANNEL, EVERYTHING FROM TOM MCDONALD TO THE FOURTH TURNING, YOUR MMA KNOWLEDGE, AND SOME GREAT COMEDY CLIPS THROWN IN FOR FUN. YOU NEVER CEASE TO SURPRISE ME, THIS EPPISODE YOUR GAME OF THRONES MENTION SURPRISED ME. YOU ARE FULL OOF SURPRISES! PLEASE KEEP IT UP! THIS COUNTRY NEEDSS YOU AND MORE LIKE YOU LIKE A SHOT OF PENICILLIN.

Fascinating concept! Thanks for sharing - I have to get this book

Calm soothing voice easy to follow and understand. Love it

Love the book, read it twice. It’s a more granular look at a similar perspective laid out by Oswald Spengler in Decline of the West. That’ a tough one to get through but similar in its view of the human experience as cyclic. Inception, Discovery, Enlightenment, Collapse.

Interesting theory. I think history does repeat periodically. We can learn a lot by knowing what has happened in the past.

@kevindiaz-ro9cm

Жыл бұрын

I always had those thoughts about society in general before I knew there was a book to reference my thoughts by. I think its societal on the global scale not just U.S. underscoring that when we are vulnerable to repeating history when we fail to learn from it. Thanks for the intellectual discussion.

@tuckerbugeater

10 ай бұрын

How are you going to learn from something that is inevitable

Wow! It was very good to hear this summary from a young, well spoken lady as you. I am glad you have an understanding of this.

This is a very interesting topic and superbly delivered. I believe in cycles and that the entire world and perhaps, even the universe itself, is living and reflecting situations and events experienced since the beginning of time. Thank you for all your interesting and informative videos.

I've read it twice, literally. Excellent book written in 1997, was blown away by the prediction of an insurrection around or before 2025 & so much more info that connect the dots to how each generational Turning arrives. Yes we are in the 4th Turning.

@protorhinocerator142

10 ай бұрын

We are in the End Times. Specifically the beginning of sorrows phase just before the Great Tribulation.

@lseger62

10 ай бұрын

If you mean the hidden insurrection in November 2020, i would agree.

@mikeg2491

10 ай бұрын

You mean that day when angry mobs set fires and tried to storm the White House gates and CNN laughed about Trump hiding in the basement? That attempted insurrection?

@treytilley333

9 ай бұрын

⁠@@lseger62for real! It’s bonkers millions avoid this 2020 election conversation and refuse to see what happened other than what Blackrock mainstream media stations tell them. Michigan state police just released information about a huge election fraud operation. *crickets*

@colnixon8989

9 ай бұрын

​@@lseger62If there was a plot to foil Drumpf's presidency, why did they ever let him in the first time? Did they get caught napping by the orange one's brilliance?

The book was super accurate on the timing. 2008, the start, was when the Great Banking Crash happened. 2028 is about equal to how long the last Depression in the 1930s ( A minor Financial Even compared to to this 230 year Super Cycle Depression event now ) lasted to hit bottom. AMAZING!

@maxi-me

10 ай бұрын

Reading this some time back I found it fascinating that they had not only identified financial patterns but also 80 year _major_ martial conflicts that align. Nevertheless, I believe they got carried away with analysis in between. There are just too many natural anomalies and social whims to extrapolate as neatly as they have. The book does an awful lot of "cherry picking" and stereo typing to support the theory. For instance, no international conflict or pandemic in 90s. Early 2000s were far from "roaring" (that actually occurred in 90s) Early 80s recession was more widespread and higher unemployment than 2008 yet no historical mirroring. These are significant culturally affective events. Lastly, the so called _Lost Generation_ were the largest contributors to the advent of most the basic modern inventions, literature and musical influence we now enjoy. Yet in at least 2 of his books he seems to dismiss them as zombies and goons......

@dontcomply3976

10 ай бұрын

One correction, in the book it never pinpoints the date to 2008, the author never claim to be Nostradamus. It just says there will be an event which begins the crisis in the mid 2000s. It was identified as the GFC afterwards.

@mikeg2491

10 ай бұрын

@@maxi-me thank you glad I’m not the only one who is sensing the political spin in it, it seems to want to demonize and prop up certain generations of people. I’m a millennial and while I agree our generation is dealing with alot of struggles not of our making, there are a lot of people my age refusing to get a job or living off disability, those who do work, many have useless degrees and can’t even change a flat tire if required, that’s not a recipe for a generation here to save /remake the world from those “zombies & goons”.

@bchristian85

9 ай бұрын

Strauss and Howe really made some great points in the original book, but they got a bit carried away in the the 2000s predicting the crisis. It wasn't 9/11, the war on terror, or the 2008 recession. None of those changed society the way a real fourth turning does. The actual crisis is the culture war that has been brewing since the '80s. It kicked into full gear in June 2015 when same-sex marriage was legalized, Caitlyn Jenner was on the front cover of Vanity Fair Magazine, and Donald Trump rode down the golden escalator as the "messiah" for those who want a more traditional, hierarchal society.@@maxi-me The climax of the crisis began in 2020 with the pandemic, and then in 2021 with the attempted insurrection.

Brilliant video. That was a treat to listen to. Looking forward to more

Instant sub. Great content. Thanks for sharing.

This time frame (22 years) also coincides with sun cycles. If you trace conflicts and major unrest back in time, there is a close correlation with spikes in solar activities. I haven't read this book, but I'm wondering if the authors were aware or spoke of this correlation in their writings? 🤔 Great share! ✌️✨

@robertphillips93

10 ай бұрын

Solar cycles and planetary influences would be expected to contribute to the activity of the highly sensitive apparatus present on and about Earth's surface -- terrestrial life. But the astrological flavors referenced in this reading seem to regard whole periods as somehow coherent in this or that aspect -- and that would seem to imply a much lower frequencied sort of influence, possibly from a galactic source?

@LucasFernandez-fk8se

10 ай бұрын

Okay no need to bring astrology into it. No “The civil war happened because Venus was in retrograde” kind of conversations please

@orpheuscreativeco9236

10 ай бұрын

@@LucasFernandez-fk8se Hahahah, it actually has to do with major EMP and radiation bursts emitted from coronal mass ejections when Sun activity is at its height. ✌️✨

@maxi-me

10 ай бұрын

That's interesting and adds up with regard to international "80 year" cycles. However, all the in-between here are posited with cherry picking and many major events have no historical mirroring...... That would not support a simple human cycle.

@justlina2769

10 ай бұрын

Coincides with Uranus cycles around the sun more specifically- i.e., astrological cycles.

What s great synopsis of a lot of data. I love the theory as well, and at age 72, I have lived it and watched this story unfold. This Fourth Turn scares this guy as I fear geo-political forces will dynamically change the way if life in America as we have known it. I look forward to seeing more of your posts 👍🏻

I’m loving listening to you speak…i’m subscribing for sure

Amazing information, thank you, The way you speak is it's soothing makes you want to listen 👂

I read this book and it has actually helped me to get through this crazy time we are going through. All the hate bothers me the most. It's good to know my gen z son will be fine and will come out stronger from all this craziness.

@Slickshadow11

9 ай бұрын

Gen z will NOT come out strong of this, the next generation will. Sorry

@faithboothman9496

9 ай бұрын

@@Slickshadow11 you have a right to your opinion as I do. 🤷‍♀️

@Slickshadow11

9 ай бұрын

@faithboothman9496 sure but it's not an opinion, it's a prophecy

@faithboothman9496

9 ай бұрын

@@Slickshadow11 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Was aware of this before c19. So crazy seeing it play out in our lifetimes.

Wow, excellent presentation. Glad I found you.

This was very insightful. Good job

I read this book years ago on the recommendation of Glenn Beck and, not being a historian, ploughed through it over the course of a year. I feel it's one of the best and most prescient books I've ever read. The outcome of this Fourth Turning, or Crisis, remains uncertain. I agree with this young lady it does not have to end badly, and further argue it's necessary we go through this painful period to achieve rejuvenation, if possible. That being said, it's not a foregone conclusion that things will be better on the other side (imagine if we had lost WW II). It will be determined by the decisions we make going forward and the courage we can muster. This time it's an internal battle.

@petervanderveen2340

10 ай бұрын

Even if you lose a war it's not the end, look at Germany and Japan. Sometimes when you win a war you still lose. Look at russia. They were allies with us in WWII and just 45 years later they collapsed and haven't recovered from that yet 34 years later.

@natashatomlinson4548

10 ай бұрын

How did a nut case like Beck find this book???

@darylhill9400

9 ай бұрын

Glenn Beck, the fraud!

It has been clear to me that everything seems to operate in cycles, from the cosmic to the subatomic, which includes all of our macro human reference frames. I'd call them "spirals," because although they resemble each other they have nuanced differences each time around, and seem to have an obvious temporal element. It's interesting to see that some authors have quantified one of these many cycles and written about it, and I'll be curious to read what they have to say. I ordered the book immediately.

@RickMeijer

9 ай бұрын

That's the second time I've seen somebody refer to life as a spiral. Different context though; they said "even if you're back to the point you started, you'll be more knowledgable, more experienced, arrived one level deeper. Life is not a circle, it's a spiral." As for history; one that I like is "History doesn't repeat itself. It rhymes.". (edit: lol, I should've finished the video) I don't know if I agree with the sentiment though. We are meaning-making machines. We survived on pattern recognition, and we're kind of stuck in this mode. This doesn't mean there's an actual pattern to be observed. Using history as a map for the future feel a bit like reading tea leaves.

@ElloMoto875

9 ай бұрын

All I know is I’m about to get hit with a ton of conspiracies theories now that I’ve watched this 😒 thanks KZread algorithm

@michaelking9818

9 ай бұрын

And you are completely wrong .

@psterud

9 ай бұрын

@@michaelking9818 About what?

@psterud

9 ай бұрын

@@RickMeijer I know what you mean. Let's promise to return to this topic by the end of the decade, if possible, and see how how our hypotheses are faring.

I enjoyed your piece. Lower the lights a bit. It’s blazing off my screen. Your audio is awesome! Thank you

Very well spoken! Excellent commentary and communication skills🎉