ive got an idea for a point to point its its charing X in glasgow - charing x in london

@mrvwbug4423

19 күн бұрын

Perth to Perth haha, though that might be a rather long trip haha.

@eugenedonaghy1

19 күн бұрын

Montrose in Scotland to Montrose in Ireland

@anerdtravels

18 күн бұрын

​@@eugenedonaghy1Steve Marsh did Montrose in Scotland to Montreux in Switzerland, so along similar lines!

@RealBrik2

18 күн бұрын

London in England to London in Canada 😂😂😂

@myonlydemandisbacktowork8759

18 күн бұрын

@@RealBrik2 let me copy your idea - Edmonton in London to Edmonton in Alberta 😁

The film omitted the Cumbernauld route, which had direct trains Glasgow-Edinburgh until the timetable rationalisation post-Covid. Now it involves a change of trains at Falkirk Grahamston. When these were running through, people sometimes caught them at Edniburgh without realissing they weren't the fast trains! I believe the plan is to re-instate them when passenger numbers reaches pre-Covid levels again.

There was a 5th route via Falkirk Grahamston which was a quite route between Glasgow and Edinburgh but sadly been withdrawn an some of those puns were bad-ley 😂 But a good idea that was well executed (will admit, did hear this idea the night before Leven opened) great video

@CoastwayWill

23 күн бұрын

Honestly, 4 routes were more than enough, I think a 5th route would've broken us! Bathgate was grueeeling 😆

@thomascook578

19 күн бұрын

I hated working those, felt like a lifetime on them, used to get passengers on them at queen street not realising they were over an hour journey time

@abtravel0279

19 күн бұрын

The 5th via Cumbernauld ultimately went as it was a delay nightmare. On the stretch through Edinburgh Park pre covid, you had 2ph semi fast to Dunblane, 2ph to Queen St all stops via Cumbernauld, 4ph to Queen Street via Falkirk High (split stopping pattern to give all except Haymarket/Falkirk High 2ph, the other stops having 4ph). Then you had 2ph semi fast to Milngavie and also 2ph semi fast to Helensburgh, both via Airdrie/Bathgate. Throw in the handful of other operators services that used the route and you sometimes had 13-14 trains per hour in each direction through the section at Edinburgh Park, averaging about a train every 3-4 minutes. Many of the Queen Street fasts via Falkirk High were still 4 cars at this point though, as were the Dunblane’s. Something had to give and the choice was made as a result of covid to reduce the number of trains, but lengthen most of them to 6 or 8 cars. Not only did this save money, but it freed up space and maintained a similar level of capacity compared to what was running before.

@thomascook578

19 күн бұрын

​@@abtravel0279Newbridge Jn was and still is a nightmare, one thing goes wrong there...boof chaos

@nigelkthomas9501

19 күн бұрын

I was thought Falkirk Grahamston was just for Sunday services as Falkirk High was shut on a Sunday. Incidentally, have you ever been to Falkirk High? It’s a very healthy walk from the centre of town!

Just a tip for riding those 334 units, the carriages on either end of the unit are in a 2+2 configuration and armrests. A lot more comfortable for the long journey. Great video Nick.

The Bathgate route was a complete route to Edinburgh before the 50s but the Airdrie to Bathgate section was closed to passengers in 1956. My gran used to go in the "blue Train" to Helensburgh from Airdrie when she fancied a day out at the seaside.

Crosscountry also run one train per day between Glasgow and Edinburgh, on the same route as LNER.

I live fairly close to Helensburgh and I've only done the Glasgow - Edinburgh stretch of the Helensburgh - Edinburgh route twice. It might not be the longest but it just has so many stops...and it's the busiest of the routes. I always change at Queen Street and get the train that goes via Falkirk High.

I work with Clara at The Bo’Ness and Kinneil Railway :)

@paultidd9332

19 күн бұрын

That’s a great heritage railway, just a shame it doesn’t link with a mainline railway service.

@Thatspuremental

16 күн бұрын

@@paultidd9332it would be good to see a service from Edinburgh Waverley or heck haymarket to Bo’ness

Edinburgh to Glasgow Central via Carstairs takes less than an hour if go with LNER or Cross Country. Scotrail only takes longer because it has more stops and has to wait at Carstairs for a while. Also the train you got to Queens street low level. Stops at Partick. Where you can get to Glasgow Central low level and Motherwell. saves you ever walking between Central and Queen Street.

I was suprised how fast the Edinburgh - Glasgow Queen Street via Faliirk High was... It was my first time riding a 385 but I didnt know about Scotrail Express services beforehand. It blew my mind because of how efficient fhe connection is.

@therathergoodengineer9285

13 күн бұрын

the fastest routes take between 39 and 43 minutes! they dont stop at croy or polmont.

@FusionZenFlame

13 күн бұрын

@@therathergoodengineer9285 I went on the one that skipped Croy. Then on return I stopped at all the stops.

07:15 I think you need to do a video on how many devices you can power from one train socket 😂

@davidheyworth7947

18 күн бұрын

I just plug my ebike battery in... it works

you went passed where i grew up, garrowhill , what a video thanks for coming to visit my lovley city and this train route is how my hubby gets to uni, the Glasgow central express to Edinburgh

Some trains between Edinburgh and Glasgow via Shotts stop at 19 stations-which is about the same number as the Bathgate/Airdrie option.

Thanks Nick and crew - That slow service from Queen Street Lower bailed me out recently when the Falkirk High line was blocked and I still made my connection at Waverley, resilience is good!

@InkItOut

13 күн бұрын

A couple days after this video was filmed we had the same issue, all trains were cancelled via Falkirk High so we had to take the long route via Bathgate. However even though it was longer we still made it with plenty of time for our train at Edinburgh!

Thanks, love your videos and enjoy the contributions from your travelling companions.

@NickBadley

17 күн бұрын

Thank youuuuu!!

Great video as always, and very funny that you published it when I was visiting Edinburgh

Another good one. I thought that it would be one person for each service. But this had better feedback from the group.

Great video comparing the four routes 👍 The Shotts line is considerably faster than when I first did it in 1988 in a first generation (class 107) DMU

I wonder if the Irn-Bru vending machine was deliberately placed near a girder! And I also wonder how many get what I mean!!!!! 😉

@colinnich

13 күн бұрын

Anyone who's Scottish I imagine. And over 40 😂

@fenpikey

13 күн бұрын

@@colinnich Lol, yer probably right!! 🤣🤣

This is a great video, and thanks for posting it. It feels like there could be other cities in the UK where this would work. I think there are at least three routes: Manchester-Liverpool and a similar number: Sheffield-Leeds. There are probably more that could create this into a mini series.

Great vlog Nick. I’ve been to both Glasgow and Edinburgh but not taken the train between the 2 cities before.

I mainly use the Falkirk High route as it's back to every 15 minutes off peak in the week but if I'm going to Glasgow Central I might go from Slateford or Wester Hailes. I've only used the Airdrie-Bathgate route once in 2016 to see my sister when she lived by Partick station.

Fantastic Video. Well Done.

Another great video - excellent!

To be fair to the Airdrie-Bathgate route it was always meant to be a suburban service that happened to have a large city at each end, rather than being an out-and-out intercity service.

That was a great video and idea, Nick! I can say with complete honest that I haven't been on all four and probably only done two of them! 😂

i was at central the other day going from corker hill it was good to go on a class 380 again ❤

Brilliant video Nick, I thought the joke about the caledonian sleeper train sleeping at the depot was brilliant.

Edinburgh to Glasgow via the Airdrie to Bathgate Route I managed to do as a pub crawl with railway colleagues!! You are right there is a lot of station stops! 🍻🤣🤣

I’m watching this while sitting on the platform at Waverley having realised the train I came for here leaves 30 minutes before the next one but arrives in glasgow 3 minutes later, at the wrong station.

..I did Edinburgh Waverley from Wallyford.. Couldn't stop being entertained by the name, noted they have LNER, TPE, Lumo ect through there, so suspect I was on the main route in. P.S. also caught the Sleeper leaving Fort William (recommended visit up there. Quiet, but scenic!)

great vlog all of you

Love the Shotts (sic) when the crew emerge from behind you \m/

@4:37 you have passed Kirknewton, my home, and fail to mention that with increased trains the Level Crossing there can now be down for upto 20 minutes a go. My record is 5 trains passing through before the barriers opened!

Cross Country also goes via the Carstairs route to get from Edinburgh to Glasgow

I have a suggestion for video where you travel between two stations in different ways. Example 1: East Croydon and West Croydon one way you would go by rail and have to change trains and the other way you go directly by tram. Example 2: You take two destinations and go one way by train and the other by bus and see which is better.

This means you've passed through Breich, which was at one point Britains least used station

In "old days" Nottingham to Skegness summer service has one train per day with 8 carriages plus 2 locos. It was a bit surreal to look at this set in tight curves on this line. But because HST sets was withdrawn from service - not anymore.

The term "regional" feels perjorative to me, and is mostly only used by rail geeks and Londoners... Is it "regional" to travel between Scotland's two biggest cities?

There's technically a fifth but it's not direct. No change of stations or platform but a change of train at Falkirk Grahamston. Having done all these routes I'm keen to watch 🙂 Also just found out that the 21:05 Cross-country service from Glasgow doesn't run anymore, it was unique in not going via Haymarket but coming in from the south. Cool, hope you enjoyed it 🙂 Regional service indeed, it's an express Intercity route! The fact it's not very long, or fast, and prone to flooding is beside the point! 😉

I thought it would be 4 people racing each other but it's better to see you all together

Crosscountry occasionally use 8 or 9 cars trains on some of their services, I think mainly Edinburgh to Plymouth. It's more of an Intercity service than Regional though. Still very rare for a service that doesn't touch London though.

Another great video Nick! Seems like you and Natt had a nice time in Scotland. One thing I will say is that, despite having guests that do the journeys with you is nice, I miss the videos that just you and Natt used to do. No offence to your friends though.

Brilliant 😊

Brilliant video, for pointless journeys have you thought of doing: Bromley north to bromley south via bromley by bow and bromley cross? Or Sydenham NI to Sydenham London?

A tip for if you find yourself on a 334 again, try sitting in the driving cars, as those have seating in a 2+2 arrangement, rather than the 2+3 in the middle coach. That, and you also get arm rests.

Nick Badley? More like Nick Goodley!

I last rode between Edinburgh and Glasgow in 1982 on a push pull set. Class 47 and DVT

@therathergoodengineer9285

13 күн бұрын

wow, consider yourself lucky

You are ridding the gossip line today and got on at reddish south and you got off in Denton

Coatbridge Sunnyside used to be my local station now jst recently a moved so local stations now Lenzie Did you go on the last Glasgow Subway 2nd Gen stock btw?

Great Video Nick havent seen a Pointless Journey off you in a while is one looming??

Funny enough, I've taken those routes between Glasgow and Edinburgh a good couple of times.

Thanks

@NickBadley

19 күн бұрын

My, thank you!

@From_Journey_to_Keyboard

19 күн бұрын

@@NickBadley can i add you on discord please

@NickBadley

19 күн бұрын

@@From_Journey_to_Keyboard ah right yes, you'll need to connect your KZread account to your Discord account in your "Connections" tab, then my server should show up in there

@From_Journey_to_Keyboard

19 күн бұрын

@@NickBadley i have connected on discord

Whilst its great they opened a continuous roure from Helensburgh to Edinburgh, its so slow that its quicker to get off at Q St, go upstairs, wait for a Falkirk High service and you'll still be in Edinburgh first.

Could you do Edinburgh to Glasgow train vs bus.

Also, quirky historical fact: the eastern terminus for the original Edinburgh-Glasgow line was, in fact, Haymarket Station. The underground extension linking it to Waverley Station came a tad later…

There seem to be many trains from Glasgow Central to Edinburgh.so it is not necessary to go to Queen St.

you say that about the 8 car services, on a very rare occasion, Liverpoool - blackpool had 8 car 319s during peak time

Nice Vine reference :)

Working on the premise that we have had The 3 musketeers. Now we have the " 4 stooges". No offence meant guys lol Great video.....

@NickBadley

19 күн бұрын

4 stooges, I like it!

@tommarshall1660

19 күн бұрын

@@NickBadley I hoped you would Nick and Nat. Remember and vote tomorrow.

WOW i did not know thereee are so many foreigners in scotland.!!!

@CoastwayWill

19 күн бұрын

2/4 people in this video are Scottish to some degree

@GazzaBins

19 күн бұрын

Clara is from Scotland.

HELENSBURGH - GLASGOW QUEEN STREET- BATHGATE- EDINBURGH end to end is 2hrs 04 mins ( monday to friday) 2hrs 22 mins ( sundays and late evenings)

Enjoyable video as usual Nick! As there were 4 of you, I thought you all were going to do a route each. Also why was there 2 editing cuts when Natt was talking at the 9 min mark?

@NickBadley

24 күн бұрын

They were two rather long pauses so I just cut them out as to improve the flow a bit!

@CoastwayWill

23 күн бұрын

@davejoey I had planned this one and we were considering a format like this, but in the end decided just to be a bit more free flowing (plus I had to remake my notes on the spot as I'd left them back at my flat!)

@ollytippett7050

19 күн бұрын

⁠@@NickBadley Hello there. Plz go Plymouth 1 day

@Lewisjma21

19 күн бұрын

@@NickBadleyhey nick! Can u do a ‘how many trains we do’ Chesterfield-Derby-Birmingham New Street-Leicester-Nottingham-Chesterfield

Great video. Was there a difference is ticket price?

@bridgethuggett1052

19 күн бұрын

No, its the same price by any route

intresting vlog

juniper's are cool becuase i love these trains

Could you do from Blackpool north to Blackpool south but a longer route

@therathergoodengineer9285

13 күн бұрын

What about Blackpool north to the pleasure beach station

But which one is the quickest to get to Glasgow from Edinburgh by train. I would say via Shotts since the Shotts line have been electrified.

@nkt1

14 күн бұрын

The express service via Falkirk High is by far the quickest. As mentioned in the video, it takes around 50 minutes, and all four routes are electrified.

What about fron Edinburgh up to Sterling change then take another train to Glasgow!

@dianekivi5349

18 күн бұрын

What about Glasgow via Springburn Falkirk Gramerston to Edinburgh!

Point to Point Idea, It’s rather Long, but Tynemouth to Teignmouth or vice versa

Great video Nick. I enjoyed watching. With four of you and four routes why didn't you have a race? That would have been good.

@DitzyNizzy2009

16 күн бұрын

It would have to have been a time trial, as they don't all go at the same time.

@jacobporrett

16 күн бұрын

@@DitzyNizzy2009 something like that yeah.

Avanti use Carstairs diverting for Lon Edinburgh service via Birmingham

You never mentioned the annual all women Ruud Gullet lookalike contest in Airdrie.

You commented on the intermediate stops on the Bathgate line between Edinburgh and Glasgow Queen Street low level as having the most stops, that is incorrect. The line between Edinburgh and Glasgow Central via Shotts has the most at 19 stops.

How does ticketing work? If I turned up at Edinburgh and bought a ticket to Glasgow could I catch a train on any of those routes? Or do I have to buy a ticket for a specific route?

@DitzyNizzy2009

16 күн бұрын

It looks like any of them, as a ticket via each one costs the same.

Dang you never got to ride the declassified first class on a class 385 (it's declassified on every route except via Falkirk High)

It has to be said, the demand for the first three is distinctly underwhelming, if the number of unoccupied seats around you are anything to go by...! Also, there was until the covid lockdowns, a fifth Edinburgh - Glasgow route, via Falkirk Grahamston, Cumbernauld and Springburn; and until 1968 these was indeed a sixth route between the two cities - via Dunfermline, Oakley and Stirling (although I believe the odd one of these may have turned off after Alloa and crossed the Forth Viaduct to Larbert and therefore omitting Stirling, which might be a sort of seventh route, if you think about it! Also, it might be worth just mentioning that the Airdrie to Bathgate route isn't new, it is in fact a reopening of a through route that was closed to passengers in 1956 and to freight in 1982; and that it didn't all reopen at once as the short, single track, unelectrified branch from Ratho Junction to a then-new but now-old Bathgate station, reopened in 1984; and the short extension from Airdrie to a differently-sited Drumgelloch station opened in 1987!

what about via Falkirk Grahams ton

Don’t forget the bus routes that could be faster (and definitely cheaper)

@mrvwbug4423

19 күн бұрын

SRE from GQS to Waverly via Falkirk High is pretty quick. Outside of the handful of intermediate stops the train is usually going 100mph for most of that route.

Debating about 8 car trains in the comments I will - Chiltern run some 8 car peak regional services from Oxford & Brum to Marylebone so maybe that would count? Oxford could be more commutery but Birmingham is a regional service I would say; it's not ran as an intercity service apart from the 68s! LNWR also run 8 cars from Birmingham to Euston

Glasgow Queen street springburn cumbernauld falkirk Grahamston haymarket edinbugh

If LNER is withdrawing its Glasgow service does that mean AWC is withdrawing their Edinburgh service? I do know that AWC's Edinburgh service doesn't call in Glasgow, they take the Midcalder bypass to get to Edinburgh without passing through Glasgow.

@CoastwayWill

19 күн бұрын

Avanti are keeping their Edinburgh runs. There's plenty of service between Edinburgh and Glasgow you can use in place of the LNER service, but Carlisle to Edinburgh would have a frequency of just a single train every two hours without Avanti

There is a faster train on the Airdrie - Bathgate line which skips a lot of the stations.

You missed one although you need to change trains!!!!

I thought each of you were going to do a route each.

I thought you were going to have a race

Who are the people you did it with

@InkItOut

18 күн бұрын

There’s me (Natt), Coastway Will and Clara! :)

Wait. You don't consider Liverpool - Birmingham a regional service? What is it then?

The one thing you could do is go to sandwich railway station and eat a sandwich on the platforms 😂.

@Dunco3550

18 күн бұрын

Then go to nearby Ham Railway Station and eat Ham

Meanwhile folks outside the Central belt have no electric lines and not many trains.

@mrvwbug4423

19 күн бұрын

At least there's some electric lines. Wales has basically no electric lines except for the small corridor to/from Cardiff. So you get your choice of crammed to the gills 158 or 197 for most trips in Wales.

In Scotland Irn Bru kicks the shit out of Pepsi and Coke

nick have you seen the new Taylor Swift themed tube map

What else would you call Liverpool -Birmingham?

My question is why is it called Shotts?

@kieranbeecroft8414

8 күн бұрын

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotts

No mention for Linlithgow being the birthplace of Mary, Queen of Scots.

@zipWith

13 күн бұрын

No mention of Livingston being the home of St John's Hospital either. Scandalous.

@ToilerOnTheSea

13 күн бұрын

@@zipWith Where Mr JK Rowling was an Anaesthetist too.

@zipWith

13 күн бұрын

@@ToilerOnTheSea thrilling

No shotts were drunk in the filming of this video

06:17 who noticed the ''stoP''

@Vi-yu6sz

18 күн бұрын

that's what 334s do

england is best

any train with ironing board seats are not comfy ..and the 385s are terrible the 380s are much better

@liamphilbin7256

13 күн бұрын

wwwwwww😵

hey hey wait wait...no you've skipped over a much more video interesting video pitch of. That time a train got LOST so now they have to do retention runs so it never happens again. Not stolen or missing but went the wrong direction, on RAILS