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The forgotten behemoth: The Reeves OctoAuto
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In perhaps one of the most brazen attempts at making the perfect automobile Milton Reeves, a genius inventor would create an eight wheel vehicle that "rides like a boat" and in a shocking twist of fate... no one would buy it or the smaller more "practical" SextoAuto a year later.
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I have been staring at a vintage ad for the Reeves Sexto Auto on my bathrooms wallpaper since the early 1990s and never knew the history of it until this video. Thank you!
I've never heard about this car. Thank you for the video!
The only car Jay doesn't have! Interesting subject. So many American and European firms making interesting cars during this period. You have picked a great topic to build a channel.
@Chad-Giga.
9 ай бұрын
Was thinking the exact same thing!
The big issue with tyres and punctures, right into the 1930s was, reportedly, horseshoe nails falling out of the hooves of the many cart and wagon horses being used on roads. That is why solid tyre trucks were retained by municipalities and road contractors for such a long time.
Ive actually seen an image of that car but never knew what it was. Thanks for sharing!
I'm glad when I discover a new model I never even heard of before. And it's exactly the case now, watching this video. 😲 Thanks, guys! 👏🏻😁
@PreWarMotoring
10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! The car is so cool and I didn't know it existed either!
Let's look at the tire rotation diagram... Wait, this is Notre Dame's playbook.
@calebpepper3834
10 ай бұрын
A Shift they call it “Ah but Heisman of Georgia Tech also has a shift so does Tad Jones at Yale,but those are simple tunes compared to Rokne’s Symphony.” From the movie Knute Rockne: All American.
GROUND PRESSURE, per wheel, is an Off-Road STAPLE. When you look at ANY Modern over-17-ton Wheeled Military rig, it has, Fat wheels, and at-least, 8 of them. 'Why not Dualies'?, you might ask? Mud-ruts, fender widths, and, most importantly in the Era of Wooden-spoked Wheels, Tire-Changes!
We need the Octoauto today! Have you seen the roads lately?
If any of these still exist??? They should be restored and shared This is very interesting Thanks for sharing
Ah, those Magnificent Men and their Great Race!
If you look at a lot of modern Russian vehicles, they have multiple wheels for the same concept of undeveloped road travel so there is probably something to it.
@dickJohnsonpeter
9 ай бұрын
What I don't understand is why it took about fifty years for someone to realize, "hey we should make wider tires and wheels. Bicycle tires never can grip anything on an automobile". I know tire construction is very complex but no one ever even had the thought of even trying to make them wider and taller for decades.
@andreww2098
9 ай бұрын
@@dickJohnsonpeter in mud it's actually better to have narrower wheels as they tend to, up to a point, cut through the surface mud to firmer ground below, and at the time there was less than 300 miles of what we would call a road today, as you saw in the video they had little trouble with it, they were also a lot taller than most modern tyres for the same reason, the Model T had 30x3 inch rims!
@dickJohnsonpeter
9 ай бұрын
@@andreww2098 Good point though as someone who off roads frequently I'm not putting skinny tires on my Jeep.
@erikthegoatfucker1987
9 ай бұрын
@@dickJohnsonpeterit's mostly due to the tire technology of the time not being able to support wider tires as well as the fact that these cars were very slow and therefore didn't really nee a whole lot of grip.
This car still exists although in dismantled condition. It was stored in the UK somewhere in the west country. I cannot remember the details as it was thirty years ago.
Now towards the very near end of the video when they showed the 6-wheel sextoauto it reminded me of an automobile that was in a movie called The Great race starring Jack Lemmon who played the notorious Professor Fates he had a car that looked very similar to that.
@allangibson8494
10 ай бұрын
Lenin had a six wheel Rolls Royce that he used in Russia with ski’s fitted in front for winter.
@61rampy65
9 ай бұрын
I believe that Lemmon's car was called the Hannibal 8.
@garyquail4996
9 ай бұрын
@61rampy65 you're getting close but in the movie Professor fate called his creation the Hannibal twin eight .
The DeHavilland Fox Moth also used the passenger compartment as a crumple zone🙂! It was essentially a Tiger Moth with an enclosed passenger compartment, below and forward of the pilot’s seat. The first ‘bush plane’, according to Joe of Buffalo Air.
In every aspect, this is great content! Keep it up! It may take a while longer, but I think you're going to have a lot of success. Thank you from your newest subscriber!
Looks like it was built by Professor Fate to race the Great Leslie.
@PreWarMotoring
10 ай бұрын
Haha. I was born in the 1990s no idea this existed thanks!
@tedsdogwalking
10 ай бұрын
The reference is to the main characters in a 1965 film starring Tony Curtis and Jack Lemmon. About an automobile race from New York to Paris. Absolutely brilliant film, well worth your time to watch if you have not seen it before.
@tedsdogwalking
10 ай бұрын
The movie is titled The Great Race.
Wow excellent job on the video I actually watched the whole thing with attention. Wish you luck on the growth of your channel.
@PreWarMotoring
9 ай бұрын
I really appreciate it!
Later on eight wheelers became standard for german armored scout cars, up to the modern "Luchs".
Fascinating but it begs the question, are there any Octo or Sextomobiles still in existence, and where?
@PreWarMotoring
10 ай бұрын
There doesn't seem to be any in existence anymore sadly
@allangibson8494
10 ай бұрын
There are plenty of trucks with the exact same wheel arrangement. The steering just requires the rear set of steering wheels having less throw than the forward set.
@vicktorpatriot1430
9 ай бұрын
@@allangibson8494the twin steer set up available on western star , autocar and Kenworth and retrofitted on other brands. I have a C500 Kenworth twin steer with a Hendrickson spring walking beam suspension .
Armoured cars always come back to that eight wheel setup. It would have been very good 👍
I just found this channel. I'm gonna haveta check out your videos.
Sounds like his car is creation was ahead of its time just like the Tucker
Very interesting indeed !
I can see the advertisement billboard... "its like a road train!" While showing some over excited father with family plowing over a tree that had fallen or smacking a cow out of the way(since it predates safety or animal cruelty).
Holy crap, I thought DAF invented the variomatic transmission. Had no idea it was used in American saw mills before.
And of course, the Reeves Drive would find success w/ automakers such as DAF many decades later.
@61rampy65
9 ай бұрын
I was under the impression that DAF invented the "Variomatic" transmission, but I see that DAF merely improved on an existing desigh.
That car looks so cool
I'm shocked you didn't mention his longest-lasting contribution to the automobile: The muffler.
Very interesting video, thanks 😃
this is the best way to make a car and the only reason we don't do so now is because we don't have enough tires to put 8 on each car we make
That was cool. I want one!
The device at 5:00 is ingenious & needs to be on vehicles today.
Nice video, thanks!
In an age of thin, fragile, fast-wearing, non-vulcanized natural rubber tyres and inner-tubes, glorified wagon wheels, joke suspension and axle-cracking "roads", I 💯% see the appeal of extreme redundancy. It looks silly in hindsight, but I totally get it.
@PreWarMotoring
10 ай бұрын
Absolutely. It was a nuts solution to real issues of the day.
Holy Professor Fate.
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1:08 CVT found in Toyotas, Hondas, Nissans, Subarus, etc
that thing looks awesome though. it's a shame it didn't catch on
Look up Eliica 2004 for an electric 8 wheel passenger car, with 8 hub motors, max speed 320 km/h. If you think it looks odd, you have not seen its predecessor KAZ.
Would be cool to put tank tracks on
Good for him!!! 🤠👍
Id love to see the list of those 100 patents
Very Good!... #13 ✝ {10-12-2023}
Not a single video of the actual car... only photos.
Wait, you glossed over this but is this the first car with a CVT transmission?
@PreWarMotoring
9 ай бұрын
No it had a standard sliding gear setup
The Reeves "Sex to Auto" is the best model.
The inventor of the cvt?
I've never seen that before.
Most Americans just couldn't RE~L8
Some cars were cobbled together from wagon parts
I hope both rear axeles were driven. If only the first of the two rear axeles is driven you wouldn't want to take it out in any low-traction conditions, be it mud, snow or wet grass.
@PreWarMotoring
10 ай бұрын
I believe the front of the two rear axles was the only one drive if I remember correctly
@michaelguerin56
10 ай бұрын
You could have fitted temporary tracks for mud and snow. That solution is still used today by forestry contractors.
@johnossendorf9979
10 ай бұрын
@@michaelguerin56 Yes, tracks would most likely take care of the traction situation, when on the vehicle. They would expand the turning radius too, which wouldn't exactly be tight to begin with because of the very very long wheel base and the two rear axeles of which one would be forced to scrub/skid sideways while turning as tight as possible .
@davediamond9436
9 ай бұрын
the story said that the front 2 sets and the very rear steered and the front rear were the drivers
Professor Fate's car..
Had never heard of it.
@PreWarMotoring
10 ай бұрын
It's a really interesting forgotten story for sure.
Horseless carriage with 8 wheels instead of 4?
@PreWarMotoring
10 ай бұрын
Sure is
Do any of his cars still exist
@PreWarMotoring
10 ай бұрын
Not to my knowledge
I await to view Mr Wayne Carini sell one at auction ( or has he , and I missed it ? ) ........ DAVE™ 🛑
...and 65 years later we got the Panther 6.🤣
Woo
Imagine Maybach or Rolls-Royce like this nowadays
I like the video, but please, speak up a little. I had to keep turning up the sound so I could hear what the narrator was saying.
@PreWarMotoring
9 ай бұрын
Whoops, good to know!
To bad nobody saved one. Would be interesting to se it drive
If you had the derelict remains of an Overland, and you wanted something different from a straight restoration...
@PreWarMotoring
9 ай бұрын
I've thought that for years
It's no Hannibal Twin Eight.........
This pisses me off. I wanted to see the beginning photo, blurred, but came into focus for about 3 milliseconds until it was gone, back and forth a dozen times, couldn't pause it on the focused photo.
@PreWarMotoring
10 ай бұрын
Whoops
@tim3172
9 ай бұрын
You can literally pause and press the left arrow key and it's perfectly in focus. moves YT a frame forward. Stop complaining and learn how computers work, sheesh.
Hannibal 8
This feels like it's fake but it's not somehow.
Perhaps Reeves should have tried to sell his car to the Army; it looks like it ought to have machine guns mounted on it.
That's a CVT transmission