Sargent is arguably the most difficult painter to forge. If people could paint like him they would.

@sketchartist1964

2 ай бұрын

Some painters can make good copies of his work but they can't paint any of their own in his style.

Anyone who really wishes to paint with confidence and accuracy similar to Sargent really needs to learn how to draw like Sargent. It's all based on a good sense of values and excellent drawing skills.

@ArtHistoryProfessor

11 ай бұрын

You are correct on both points.

@mariapilarme

2 ай бұрын

You are born with the skill , you can’t learn how to draw.

@sketchartist1964

2 ай бұрын

@@mariapilarme That's true to a certain degree. There are people who can't draw well at first but who later develop good skills. Andrew Loomis was one of those.

@Jay-bw3fl

Ай бұрын

@@mariapilarmeI hope you don’t really believe that. It’s absurd

@WineShaman

Ай бұрын

@@mariapilarmeutter drivel.

A few hours only, and using acrylics! They all did surprisingly well considering the conditions, and doubtless could all have done better in better circumstances. Respect to them all even for attempting Sargent's style in public.

I would be completely freaked out with an attempt like this. No easy task in such a short period of time. My hats off for these students. Well done!

I visited a train museum and was stunned to see an immense, original Sargent painting of one of the railroad titans in the entryway. It was the absolute highlight of the visit.

Thrilled to find these lessons. For me, retired and living in a rural area far from art classes, it is a wonderful gift. THANK YOU.

I've come late to Sargent but am now a life-long fan. Such beautiful work!

Forging art that is as good as the original is the one crime I admire

I just love Myatt as the teacher. I could learn so much from him.

Really enjoying the series John. Not just the painting exercises your artists are executing but also the brief history lessons about the different famous artists. Many thanks.

John Myatt, a great painter and a good TV presenter. Thanks.

Delightful! Surprised so many negative, might I say "hateful," comments. I adore Sargent but had quite limited expectations after the introduction. Paintings turned out better than anticipated

@arachosia

Жыл бұрын

Sargent was the greatest painter to ever live.

Sargent flattered all of his sitters with a more beautiful version of themselves... no wonder he was so popular among those that perhaps thought highly of themselves within society.

@HondoTrailside

4 жыл бұрын

I can't comment on that but a lot of his paintings contain rather formidable people, often looking as though they were exasperated with the long sitting. And I am talking about some of his most famous sitters, like the certainly beautiful Lady Agnew. And including some rather ridiculous customers, whose poses leave one in no doubt as to the pompous asses they may have been. Or perhaps they deserved their self regard, though that is clearly not a popular view today. Today it is typical to put beauty on a pedestal. But even growing up in the 50s and 60s, most of the people I met were more concerned about character. And that comes across in Sargent's paintings. It is also typical of the public figures of earlier times, even the movies stars. Not too many would seriously consider the likes of Cagney or Tracy as screen idols today. I have difficulty myself. But would "war heroes" like Stewart or Murphy make it either? Hard to say.

@kathyhansen2820

4 жыл бұрын

@@verydrunkcat Sargent was a master. Loose and painterly is much more difficult to achieve than tight and precise which let's face it depends more on patience than actual skill. That Sargent made it look effortless which is a testament to his talent.

@ClariceAust

4 жыл бұрын

@@HondoTrailside I wouldn't call De Niro or Pacino beautiful; it's their character & the way they inhabit their roles that gets them their work & their fees. 'Trying to think of recent female stars I could say the same of, but don't think we've evolved that far yet. Looks triumph over character for giving females roles. Let's hope the Harvey Weinsteins and their irksome ilk are now a thing of the past and perhaps we'll get some women with character emerging in high profile movies.

@ClariceAust

4 жыл бұрын

@@verydrunkcat Pls don't give cats alcohol, btw, that would be a sadist act.

@Peter_H_Art

4 жыл бұрын

That's funny- I agree about the sisters and his niece. Lady Agnew's portrait is very glamorous too. I think Sargent was actually quite well known for saying that for every portrait he painted, he lost a friend. Philip De Laszlo, his immediate 'successor' in the high society portraits very much glamorized his subjects (in my opinion anyway), and they loved him for it.

Man i wish i could see these in HD somewhere Singer Sargeant is such a beast, they all did very well

It's the first part of this series for me: it's sooo interesting and a real joy to see him explaining and telling the story behind the painter... "load your brush and wooosh..." Thanks for the upload!

Sargent, to me, is one of our greatest artists. Your short program has added valuable insights into his art and milieu. Given good technical capabilities I believe you need to see creatively, especially rendering the figure, some of that seeing can be taught, I saw you do that, the rest is up to the individual. I believe if you can see it you can do it. Thanks

This is so delightful. To me a mentor of wisdom openly sharing is divine.

There is so much to learn form this series, thank you JM and company!

... Also, props to the model for such a disciplined pose. True professional.🎉🎉🎉

This artist John Myatt is the 'best' teacher I've seen on any videos devoted to instructing, or, imparting, 'how to' undertake painting! Portraiture is 'underrated' as an art form and is one of the most challenging and demanding. This man, John Myatt, is a fantastic instructor and one is more impressed by his performance as such on video than the examples shown of his own paintings. Full marks should be given to this man's 'in dept' knowledge of Sargeant and his techniques in portraiture!!!

For people that know how difficult is to be not a Master but just, a fairly good one would understand the Master's ability to create the magnificent work they did.

I love the space that they are in.

A program like this wouldn't have a chance on American TV.

@pleinaire8698

3 жыл бұрын

A program like this would be a huge hit on American TV!!

@simonlloyd7557

3 жыл бұрын

not unless it had guns, lots of shouting and a relentless soundtrack of irritating audio effects and infantile music.

@understandingthetimes2867

3 жыл бұрын

Im american and i would watch it, im watching it now ! There are many different kinds of people living here in america, you shouldnt paint everyone with the same brush

I did Lady Agnew and not in a quick afternoon. It took me a whole long month! So applaud what these painters have done here. I love what John said about Sargent. It is what I noticed as well. Love the series!

@annnee6818

2 жыл бұрын

Well done. Lady Agnew isn't renowned fir nothing. Sargeant had an excellent eye for portraiture.

Another great episode with 3 great artist with there own objectives and all 3 did am excellent job,thanks for sharing!!!

I miss you John.Used to get your show on TV. Your the best.I'm an artist too.

I find you so refreshing and I like your frankness and such a good but bossy teacher. Thanking you.

Having watched only Your intro, I love Your approach! I am convinced, that of everything bad, can be made something good!

2nd time watching / loved it all over again / Sargent is my fav.

be good if the master painting at the same time as the students so we could see his efforts.

@chrisredfield3607

2 жыл бұрын

His forgeries are shown at the beginning as the masterworks.

@ismaellanda9018

2 жыл бұрын

Well, he was painting a Monet, so, I think he's pretty good

Still love this John Myatt guy and his painting lessons. Helps me a lot with my own endeavors. Thank you!

I love the lady painting closest to the camera, especially when she received a vehement no when she asked if they could use palette knives and that she wished she hadn't mentioned it.

I am TOTALLY in love with this model. She doesn't flitch and she's incredibly gorgeous. I love you!

@danilogomez5321

4 жыл бұрын

Lo unico sensato que se ha dicho en este foro

This was very enjoyable to watch! Thanks for the information!

Great show! I admire and respect all three of the painters here. I learned quite a bit by watching, especially about tonal values and softening edges. Well done Gordon, Sally and Pat. And thank you John...keep the shows coming (Lucien Freud perhaps?)

Amazing, the whole process and I love your detailed explanations! Thank you!!

I really like your tutorials and videos. Very informative and enjoyable to watch.

Fabulous! I totally enjoyed and will remember your words! Many blessings for your gift.

That was a great explanation and perspective. Can’t wait to try out the ideas presented with such clarity.

All three rose to the challenge brilliantly in a very specialised field.

The limitations imposed on the artists adds to the entertainment value. We're not really interested in seeing the recreation of a Sargent. We just want to see if they can create something that doesn't completely suck when they step outside their comfort zone. It's quite fascinating to watch artists struggle. Sally's painting was quite good.

@lindahl458

3 жыл бұрын

Robert Palmer how you describe this sound slightly sadistic ...

@bitl5950

2 жыл бұрын

@@lindahl458 it's the pain in painting

One of The best and most interesting videos on KZread.

Quite frankly, I think all three paintings were pretty darn good. I can't even imagine trying to paint like Sargent in front of a camera!

IN N OUT for those of us with cronic asthma acrylics are a blessing

An excellent video, and very good artists .... well done !!!

FANTASTIC MODEL! She has been so carefully posed to show the character and determination in the face. Great use of light here. Trouble is you need some talent to be able to paint it!

i am an artist who has specialized in portrait painting , I am hugely impressed by what these three artists achieved in a very short time . I too am an admirer of John Singer Sargent , his portraits have a living look as opposed to just a good likeness . My American wife's brother-in-law has a painting by Sargent of his father as a boy , with big Eton style collar and soft gray velvet suit . I once joked to the father about the good likeness , knowing that he would likely cringe a little . Only recently did I discover the full extent of Sargent's landscapes , water colours and freestyle painting , amazing . Thank you for making this film which I have thoroughly enjoyed .

Love these videos Excellent tips and knowledge.

What an incredible artist!

Quite a task to try and teach someone to paint like Sargent in one sitting. The exactness with which he executes applying paint is a feat of years of training and experience. Good on them for braving the challenge.👏👏👏

Thank you again for another great video😊

Wow that edges tip is so helpful! Gotta start applying it

wow, glad I found this, remenicent of "the artist of the year" series done 2018 ish, and during the pandemic, which we all 'binged' as a matter of course, but a well done production, and great to see art shown off and the how as well.

It annoys me the way everyone is knocking the use of acrylics here. They're used for one simple reason: drying time. If you were to use oil paints they would have to wait days for each bit to dry before moving on to the next. The whole episode would take a month or more to film. He's not teaching them to be forgers he's teaching them to step into the artists shoes, to use a different technique. It's about entertainment value and there'd be little if they had all the time in the world to be perfectionists about the painting. I think they all do amazing to paint the quality they do in a day and to see all the different strengths and weaknesses that are highlighted. As for those going on about "how can they be an art teacher and not be able to paint portaits" no all artists paint the same subjects, some paint landscapes, some paint abstracts, impressionists, expressionist, modern or industrial art; that's what makes the art world tick. And it seems to me the series producers deliberately tried to give each artist a personal challenge by taking them out of their comfort zone & giving them something they wouldn't have usually done. Painting faces is bloody hard. If you asked Picasso to paint a Sargent in a day you'd probably be calling him crap too. Keep in mind that Myatt fooled the art world for long enough that he put over 200 pieces out there and they were painted in house paint (regardless of what you might think of his ability he's obviously good enough to fool those who were in the know - though I wish he'd cut down on the boasting somewhat). So stop the snobby bullshit about acrylics. They do the job you want them to do, they allow you to paint quickly. Yes, it's difficult to blend, but it's not impossible, it just creates a greater challenge. Apparently I feel quite strongly about that.

@ChadSmith1452

10 жыл бұрын

Ah, the old excuse, "It's just for entertainment". Okay, fine, it's for entertainment, but that doesn't make the concept any less silly when judged by some criterion *other* than entertainment. Two other things: 1) Picasso could indeed copy a Sargent in a day. Sargent painted alla prima (look it up) and Picasso was at least as skilled in traditional techniques as Sargent. 2) Myatt most definitely did not fool "the art world"; he fooled, temporarily, a few unperceptive people who certainly had no business getting anywhere near fine art in the first place. Any critic or art historian who could not tell at glance that Myatt's works were fake should be permanently discredited.

@webetwo2

10 жыл бұрын

azure chaos makes the best argument supporting this series. Acrylics are much maligned by the insecure and their quality has improved magnificently over the last 50 years. As an artist-who-taught for 30 years, I appreciate the way this artist explains to and challenges his students. Enjoyment= entertainment. And, lest we forget, "amateur" means someone who loves what they do. May we all find that enthusiasm.

@temudgin62

9 жыл бұрын

Picasso is known for his Modern Art style but he was a master painter who trained classically. Look up his Fisherman painting. Or his portrait of his mother, which he painted when he was FIFTEEN! I am certain that if Picasso had continued to pursue classical realism beyond his teens, he would've been just as good, if not maybe even better than Sargent. I just want to dispel this myth that Picasso was not capable of painting classically and that's why he drew funny pictures with eyes all over the place.

@everydaybodybuilding2282

7 жыл бұрын

people literally just ego stroking like they were never amatuers lol. I don't know about you, but my high school art teacher wasn't painting sargents successfully lmao.

@gaussian18

7 жыл бұрын

"If you were to use oil paints they would have to wait days for each bit to dry before moving on to the next." Not necessarily. If one uses oils in the alla prima manner, as Sargent did, rather than the indirect painting approach of glazing layers to which you seem to be referring, it would not take any more time to have produced this episode using oils as opposed to acrylics. It is entirely possible to paint quickly with oils. The point of acrylics is that they are "safer" than oils- like a car with traction control and ABS- because they are harder to blend it is much harder to get oneself into a muddy mess of dulled-out colors, likewise it is much more difficult to achieve subtleties of hue and fine brushwork with acrylic precisely because they dry so damn fast. The truth is, to learn how to paint well, you have "fail", and make a muddy mess at times. It's harder to make mistakes with acrylics because the quick dry time doesn't let the canvas stay open and workable, and thus it is harder to achieve great effects as well. There's a reason the overwhelming majority of professionals use oils, and it's not snobbery; oils have more expressive power than acrylics in skilled hands. Apparently I feel quite strongly about that.

ASMR trigger when John's pointing out the facial highlights and dimensions 😂

I have one of his pieces of art. I LOVE IT AND the story behind it.

Pat is living proof of the old saying 'Those that can do, those that can't teach'. Thank god I never had art lessons!

Love John Myatt's enthusiasm. I wish I could get lessons from him.

@deborahgonzalezknight168

4 жыл бұрын

What for? He can't draw or paint to save his life. There are some great artists to go to

@annnee6818

2 жыл бұрын

@@deborahgonzalezknight168 He actually paints very decently. Why are you so angry?

Pat fucking bombed on this one

The dress vom Sally's painting, the face/head from Gordon's and I actually like that Pat zoomed in more.and has a bit more light in the background.

@davidinger4150

2 жыл бұрын

Art is fascinating ive started it at age 74 driven by the lockdown , i think everyone should give it a try its not expensive, water colours are cheap get the best you can and good quality paper lots of tutorials on you tube go and enjoy! It will open your eyes

Sargent and Waterhouse....my favorites 🥰🥰

Great thank you!

The older lady got the likeness of the model the best for me.

This is the first that I have heard of this series. It is interesting to see how mere mortals compare to someone like Sargent.

GOES TO SHOW THAT THERE REALLY IS A UNIVERSE OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A MASTER ARTIST AND A FORGER. GOD HE'S DREADFUL AT DESCRIBING THE WORKING OF JSS

@bobbrawley9439

7 жыл бұрын

djangolad This is a waste of his ability . His escription may be lame . But being a master forger i would like to see how he renders a J S S

Wow.thank you so much

just found this, amazing

this guy is a genius!!!!

Great instructor. Technique, inspiration, knowledge of the tradition combined into a single lesson.

These lessons are very helpful. Myatt is an insightful and talented teacher.

Awesome teacher , I wish you’d post more of his sessions. Thank you very much!

omg!!!! awesome!!!

That was the most bizarre unveiling at the end. The blonde guy with the pony tail basically put his own creepy face on the figure...what the fuck was up with that?

@hellooohowareudoing

9 жыл бұрын

lol well spotted

Everything about the Sargent painting's face is softened. That's the "secret" that somehow they don't see.

Now got to work over some of my portraits and stuff. The guy just told me why some of it is... amateurish. Thank you, Sir.

You are a brilliant artist and teacher. I've always admired your incredible skill and Career, Is as an art forger and now recreator. Your ability to step into the mindset of each artist that you've copied as well as your own creations. Brilliant. The way you use common oil paints as opposed to the high- end cheeky paints. You're a true master artist. I would love to see more of your videos and tutorials. Thank you

I wish these were higher res. The best videos on youtube are always low res.

lots to learn......amazing video....

love it.

Bravo...good work....

Beautiful model and good direction, well done in few time

Is there a way I can find the size canvases used in these videos? I never now what to go by. I always use two particular sizes because they're the cheapest.

He seems to be so well known for his portrait work but I actually prefer Sargents landscapes, I love the way he paints water.

@Dawn24Michele

4 жыл бұрын

His portals weren't well known because of how he painted them. He was famous for his portraits because of whom he painted. That's hope you know it's all nonsense. The greatest sculpture of the Renaissance was a female. When she entered a blind contest everyone from Michelangelo to, well you name it really, recorded their accounts of her work as the greatest they'd ever seen. Michelangelo cried in the sight of it's perfection. He also cried because he said, it's the most perfect representation of human anatomy here ever seen and because this sculptor shoes the world just how little Michelangelo knew. He wanted to learn from the artists. The winner was announced and she stepped forward to claim her prize. They the her in prison. Used finger torture on her thumbs so she's never be able to work again. Then they confined her to a convent for the test of her life. The greatest painter of the time want Leonard or Michelangelo or Raphael. It was a sixteen year old girl who had the good sense to stay as far away from the Vatican as possible. Every Nobile family throughout the world was painted by her. She traveled the world. Painted for the rich and the poor alike. Was a multi millionaire before she even became an adult. Was so famous and sought after that when she died, her funeral was the lastest ever attended in historic records. More than Lincoln, Lenin, Micheal Jackson, Aretha Franklin combined. Yet, most today don't even know her name. It's sad really. People forget the ONLY reason Michelangelo was trapped to paint the ceiling of the Sistine was because he got caught selling forgeries. Classical Greek statues were all the rage then. Michelangelo would cover modern works in yogurt then bury them. After a time he'd dig them up and pass them off as classic work from ancient Greece. Here had a choice. Paint the Sistine or root in prison. He want chosen because he was some great painter. He was chosen because he was a criminal.

@Vandalle.

4 жыл бұрын

@@Dawn24Michele Where did you get all that info? Are you sure it's true

@Dawn24Michele

4 жыл бұрын

@@Vandalle. yes, I'm sure it's true. I have a very strange and of hobby. My favorite pastime is to read through the national archives. Every country has one. I also love to visit the library of Congress. When reading through archives if I see a name, place, date, I write it down. Then I'll search that name, place, etc. Giorgio Vasari, an art critic, painter, writer, architect, historian and the first to use the word Renaissance in print, wrote and published a book titled " Lives of the most Eminent Painters, Sculptors and Architects". The book lists 142 males and only one female. Properzia de Rossi of Bologna. He wrote of Rossi, whose work can still be seen hanging in the gift shop of basilica de San petronio, " If only she had as much luck and support as she had natural talent, she who now lies buried in the shadows of obscurity, would have requested, dare I say surpassed, in fame the most celebrated workers in sculptor." So then if course I had to find the records of the competition and the accounts. A guy named Mikos Bertini threw a damn fit. Apparently it was illegal there for a woman to gaze upon a naked man. Also it was illegal for women to attend school. So he said she had to be a fallen woman in order to capture the movement of the male form so perfectly. When she clarified that women are not like men, that they do not receive stimulation visually but mentally, therefore women are not required to look upon a man to know exactly why a man is it what he has to offer, he called her a bitch. He continued to call her a bitch and slander her as a whore for how could he be beaten by a chaste woman with no education in the arts. She provided plum pits to prove her years of practice. On one plum seed she carved over 100 faces inside the cover of virgin Mary's dress. Miraculously done to say the least. She also provided metal work and filagree. All to no avail. She spent the remainder of her life in obscurity in a convent. Many women of the time chose to go to connect to escape the patriarchy of the day. In convent they could read literature, write, learn music, textiles, art and escape social responsibilities like having children, cleaning up after and mothering grown men. The downside was the church then owned all their creations. One of the best representations, and best preserved, of the last supper I've ever seen was in a monetary painted by sister Plautilla Nelli. It's over 7 meters long and exquisite. Sofonisba Anguissola exchanged sketches with Michelangelo. He even sculpted her sketches. She became a court painter, tutor to the queen and copied by the likes of Caravaggio, Peter Paul Rubens and Van Dyck. Van Dyck admitted her work so much he not only copied it, he traveled around the world to meet her. In his journal he recorded how eager he was to learn from her. Any tip, trick, hint. She was 92 and he records she had all her facilities, sound mind, quick wit, and she, at 92 was still the most compelling artist he'd ever seen. She was his inspiration and strongest influence upon him. Lavinia Fontana, regarded as the first female career artists. For she supported herself and her husband's on her paintings. Her family manuscripts still exist in the archives as well. There archives lists her 11 pregnancies and the good parents of her children. Some of the most prominent names of the day. Artemisia Gentileschi, painted done of the greatest and most realistic biblical art ever commissioned. She was discounted because of her realism and truth. For example: male painters of the day painted the rape of Susanna by the elders as a pleasure for her. As though she would have enjoyed having sex with old men, their sagging sacs and loose skin. Artemisia painted it as it would have been and as the Bible told it. A young girl disgusted by their gaze, revolted by their touch, the stench of inadequacy that made them pukes of society reeks off the canvas. She painted women taking pleasure in beheading makes whom scorned them. Where makes would paint the beheading of John the Baptist with women looking away in horror, she painted women holding his head in Glee. I guess I could see why old males would take issue knowing how women really thought of them. She is recorded in the city records as well as the Medici archives. She won a commission from the Medici Grand Duke. She's recorded as doing business better than any man. Making better deals than any man. Painting better than any man and in her " you will find the spirit of Cesar in ths spirit of a woman". She painted the ceiling of the Marlboro house for her father. He gets the credit but even he wore, she came to my rescue and completed what I dare not too begin. He himself was no slouch. He was an accomplished artist in his own right. It doesn't begin and end with the Renaissance either. Joanna Koerten outsold Rembrandt. Yet her works are hidden away in museum drawers. The only thing to be seen of her are portrait works painted of her by men like Jacobus Houbraken, copied from a painting of her by David can set Piaas. Judith leyster or Maria Sibylla Merian. She studied and painted insect and animal metamorphosis, evolution, life cycle almost 200 years before Darwin. She left her husband & traveled the world by ship and in a canoe with two baby girls strapped to her side. She canoed down the South American, African, Scandinavian Rivers, explored new unknown locations, never experienced any tr troubles along the way and published two compete works by 1679. Yet to hear men tell it they faced insurmountable odds, dangers at ever turn, yada yada yada. Anyway, there are thousands more just like them. The whole Sally sell sea shells bit comes from a time when the first paleontologist was a woman. She was not seen as credible. She sold the fossils and dinasour bones she discovered on the sea shore. But the sale couldn't be made until you listened to her explain all about the animal whom left it. She was labeled as the crazy lady but now we delicate an entire area of science to her and most even in the field don't even know it.

@DrWhom

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dawn24Michele spelling is not your hobby

Wonderful!

I wished I had 1/10th percent of motivation of what John shows in what he shows in his passionof painting!!!

Sargent! Love Sargent!

Quite good work.

I just wanna hug Pat

There are many good things to learn in these masterclasses.

Glad everything is going your way now! Impressive teacher!!

@TheGsView

Жыл бұрын

Seems crime does pay afterall

Watched this again...model is a scorcher!

It would be interesting to see another series as hour long episodes done in an ongoing competitive format; a bit like bbc's Painting Challenge, where they begin with ten painters. At the end of each episode judges eliminate one person until the final with two remaining. In the bbc prog, they have some episodes in which someone is saved from elimination by a public vote (usually a group of people with something to do with that week's challenge). It's just a shame we only meet the painters once in the Forger's Masterclass and see no progression.

I'm trying this now, and it's not easy. Painting a likeness is easy, but in his style, it's tricky.

John Myatt is the Gordon Ramsey of Painting- and I love it.

I was looking for Paul McCarthy "Painter"... good enough mate

Gostaria de saber se não vai ter mais vídeos novos ? faz outros vídeos por favor

Don't know if I agree with doing the face last, because they obviously didn't have enough time to do it justice having spent their time on the background and dress. He never mentioned the "small details" of any of the faces, did he? Don't think I'll watch another of these.I've always loved Sargent's work but I don't think it can be copied in a quick video in one day. (why didn't the Forger do a painting along with them?) Just a thought.

And I've finished myself off. Thanks.

It's fair enough to expect amateurs to try and cobble together a Hockney or Braque but Singer Sargent! That is hardly fair - Sargent was a helluva great artist with exquisite chops - in a class of his own.

Lovely. I’m surprised John didn’t admonish them for holding the brush so close to the ferrule!