Pick up Flashpoint here: amzn.to/2eT3Ee7

Honestly we gotta appreciate Batman's response to the letter tho. After shedding tears simply telling Barry "You're one hell of a messenger." I honestly really love that moment.

@lexofpower2822

11 ай бұрын

I also loved that Kevin Conroy voiced him in the Movie adaptation. It was the Cherry on top of that movie.

@JohnClark-tt2bl

3 ай бұрын

I don't know how it never dawned on me, but Barry being a super fast messenger mirrors mercury being a messenger as well.😮

21:36 "Bruce, what the hell is the matter with you?" *"WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!?!"*

@Newarksfinest05

5 жыл бұрын

Bruce?? Ooooooo lmao

@Gundam_JAY

3 жыл бұрын

Well... except it works here.

The plot holes and fuck-ups in this book aside, the concept of a government-captured, yellow sun-deprived Superman whose arrival destroyed Metropolis is awesome. Like, really fuckin' awesome.

@comicpop

8 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

The reason Flash couldnt run back in time after he got his powers back was because he wasnt quite as fast as he was in his prime. This was because the Speedforce access was being limited and split between both him and Reverse Flash in this timeline. Once Batman killed Thawne, he got full access and was able to go fast enough to go back in time.

@Gundam_JAY

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking he couldn't use it because he was focused on trying to set things right in this present rather than going back to the past immediately. But once he fought zoom and found he wasn't the reason all this he chose to go back in time to reset everything.

"I don't want to see that again." Episode 100!

I sure hope someone pays you fellas a bunch a money. Because this channel is glorious.

@comicpop

8 жыл бұрын

+Brandon Satterlee Thanks man

@kd7100

2 жыл бұрын

Lol agreed- it’s truly a shame that I’ve only recently gotten hip to these guys… buuut, at the same time, there’s a shit ton of back episodes 🤷‍♂️🍻

@Jeremo978

7 ай бұрын

​@@kd7100same.

"how did he get back" The comics have always maintained going to another time period or earth requires you to continuously vibrate at a certain frequency. Based on that, when he saved his mom he would lose his powers and therefore stop vibrating which would return him to his present.

@comicpop

5 жыл бұрын

They're new to comics.

As stupid as the writing can be, the human plot aspects were incredible. A alcohol addicted brutal batman. A uneducated and weakened superman, and a superhuman war that's destroying earth. It's cool stuff that we wish the main DC universe would take the risk of showing real damage to the world and it's heroes.

"What are you doing?....Get that out of here. Get it out of here." xD

Wouldn't the whole "going back in time thing" be kinda like breaking the sound barrier creates a sonic boom........ So breaking the time barrier creates a "time boom" Big ripples though time, messing up everything

I've watched this episode at least 4 or 5 times already and godamn that final bit with y'all as the Batmen is always entertaining as hell.

I love how Sal keeps ignoring Ethans' questions about the Flash ring lol.

Ben is so unwilling to accept Flashpoint. It's hilarious and incredibly frustrating.

+ComicPOP Sal, the look at 26:22 is priceless. "You don't understand..."

If the new 52 never happened flashpoint would be an amazing alternate universe story

@comicpop

8 жыл бұрын

+Nolantis Flashpoint is a fantastic Elseworlds book.

@frenis

8 жыл бұрын

+ComicPOP I think you should have started your lesson with Road to Flashpoint. It explains how finding out Reverse Flash was the one who actually killed Nora Allen really got into Barry's head and made him race back in time, when in his normal state of mind he would be too careful to mess with the timeline that way.

Wow, seeing Ben lose his shit was incredible. My first experience with Flashpoint was the Injustice skins and then watching the bent Two Earths animated movie. I had no idea it was a not-crisis crisis to shoehorn three separate messes into one big pile.

To the whole "what created the Flash" conversation: The Flash originally existed independently of Eobard and his mother was alive. Eobard went back into the past and killed the Flash's mother there and thus changing the Flash's whole reason for becoming a forensic scientist (though he would have become one anyway). Now why couldn't Barry change the time back without causing a Flashpoint? As established in Booster Gold earlier some time is "Hard" and cannot withstand changes, this is usually time in which important events have happened, and like it or not Flash's mother dying was made into "Hard" time by Thawne's changes.

@infernaldisdain8051

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for explaining that past me! I kind of forgot that stuff.

BTW the excuse that Barry couldn't run fast enough to go through time, was Reverse Flash was siphoning off enough of the speedforce to stop time travel. When batman killed him, that gave Barry that ability back. As i am typing this, i realize how stupid this is.

@comicpop

10 жыл бұрын

I did not extrapolate that from the book... I actually love that. In a totally ironic comic book loving way.

@thehermitman2701

10 жыл бұрын

That was how the movie explained it.

Oh I love the opening skit to this one, "no get that out of here" 😂

14:23 the flash does lose his powers once he saved his mom. What happened was Barry began to live the new timeline created from his young age but once he be came as old as he was when he travelled back in time to save his mom in the nee timeline, he was reverted back to his previous consciousness of the original timeline. This os why his mother is confused at his sudden strange behaviour in the comic.

I can't remember how many times I've said "what do you want?" when explaining the insane shit comic writers try to get away with to my friends. And the permanent cold shower that is Aquaman's world explains so very much. Yet another thoroughly enjoyable episode fellas, keep this shit up!

For all the plot holes and inconsistencies pointed out in the stories presented on Back Issues, I can't help but find those stories more endearing because of them. Back Issues and ComicPOP! is the driving force behind my return to collecting comics, and I've lined nearly an entire new bookshelf with trades either covered on the show or tangentially mentioned in other videos. You guys are great, and I can't speak highly enough of the format of Back Issues: down-to-earth, funny, informative. Keep up the excellent work, and I can't wait for you to hit that 20k threshold!

@comicpop

8 жыл бұрын

+Josh Munroe Thank you so very much, Josh! Thrilled to hear that.

@dude4444411

7 жыл бұрын

and now theyre almost 50k

I love the moments of "That doesn't make sense" "......................moving on"

This is easily the best episode yet. It's like the culmination of all the work that's been put into the series thus far, and now the ball is REALLY rolling. The comedic chemistry between you guys is phenomenal (plus you're all from Jersey, and I love me some Jersey lol), and, like I keep saying, the editing work is top-notch. This show has an uncanny ability to teach you everything that happens in a book without ever realizing it, because you're too busy enjoying yourself and laughing hysterically at the mere mention of the term "trillion google-seconds." I'm so, so glad you took the opportunity to reach out to Benny and Rob, because I never would have found this channel otherwise. I know this is super-long so I'll stop, but I just thought you guys should know: this is grade-A stuff man. Keep it up!

@comicpop

10 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, Gabriel! That means a metric ton, man. We're so lucky Rob and Benny reached out to us and got us involved with them. Loving this ride!

Absolutely loved Flashpoint, really good way to end and start a universe, plus it gave the Flash some much needed spotlight. Also the reason this time travel incident changed everything is because Pandora interfered at the last second merging the DCU with other universes (Vertigo and Wildstorm).

@angelusb2066

2 жыл бұрын

Gosh I hope in 7 years your opinion changed this storyline is a good single character event maybe even a publisher wide event but as a pseudo crisis it absolutely sucks

@CaptainMarvel4Ever

2 жыл бұрын

@@angelusb2066 No, if anything I appreciate it more. I'm also pretty happy because they just released an omnibus of Geoff Johns Flash comics that focused on Barry and it begins with a combo of material from Final Crisis (poor name choice) and Flash Rebirth and ends the book with Flashpoint. I'm not even the biggest Flash fan and I'm contemplating forking over the cash for another over priced omnibus.

Thank you. It's been a rough month and I really need that laugh. The bit at the end was hilarious.

After watching, like, a dozen of these past shows im realizing something: comic book writers should have a group of friends who dont read comics who they should approach and tell the plots to the story their doing and hear their reactions, because watching Ethan and Ben's reactions to these storylines are hilarious, since their minds arent....tainted....for lack of a better word, by years and years of reading comics they can see through shit writing unfiltered and be like "No, that's a horrible idea" and puts into perspective how asinine comic book storylines are, even ones one mght think are cool and perfect an whatnot they see the silliness and stupidity to them, Like i said it's hilarious to watch.

OMG the note makes it seem like Barry Allen has written it and he's trying to big himself up in front of Batman.

"Needles to say, I've divorced her" 😂 Also, I actually like 60s Batman

LMFAAOOOO yooo , that was one of the funniest openings I’ve seen on here ahh man, had me rolling just now at how much Sal was seeeething over Final Crisis, oh man , I know it’s an old vid, so you might not see this, but I’m glad I found all of you guys’ content , 🙏🏾🙏🏾 keep up the good work

26:23 "You don't understand how fucked we are..." Hahaha bro still kills me after watching this so many times.

The saddest thing about this book was finding out Krypto's fate. That was a gut punch.

You guys should do some Dark Horse stuff, like Hellboy or The Mask!

@bradleygearhart5713

8 жыл бұрын

Pleeeeaaaassseee

If the flash went back in time to save his mom and then never became the flash, he would never be able to go back in using the cosmic treadmill

@ZebsAlleyOriginalMusic

9 жыл бұрын

he created an alternate timeline that is explained in the story its more like creating a dimension by making a decision (crisis on infinite earths) ;)

Hot damn. I've read Flashpoint and don't recall it sounding this convoluted. What a hot mess. At least what got Sal to attempt to sort things out. Let's see you guys tackle the upcoming Rebirth! I think Geoff Johns is currently working on an 80-page one-shot.

Obviously Flash makes his suit by secreting speed-silk from dozens of pincers inside his mouth and hastily molding it into a unitard.

@comicpop

10 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you read the last issue of Amazing Spider-Man... ;)

@interregnum_

10 жыл бұрын

Heh, maybe. But will Silk be the focus of the "female superhero movie" Sony swears it's going to be the first to put out?

@comicpop

10 жыл бұрын

***** Ugh. Probably. Here's what I do know: I won't be seeing it.

I have to admit that I didn't get to read the Flashpoint comics besides maybe the first 1-3 issues. I saw the animated movie and didn't really notice the New 52 changes before I heard you say them here. This is probably one of the videos where I can't really relate because I didn't read the story. However...to my glee and surprise you have pointed out so many fun, weird and just wrong things with so many comics that I myself found noticing when reading them but without anyone to really share them with. Thank you for making awesome videos.

So glad I found this channel. Now EVERYTIME I finish reading I comic I instantly search to see if there is a Back Issues episode about it.

You guys are the best part of my morning routine

Well I'm considering getting the Flashpoint graphic novel.

Ben Baragona I'm really surprised at how annoyed you are at the writers in this story, Ben. Don't you know when Barry Allen time travels, all hell breaks loose in the time stream! Why? Because reasons! lol

You guys are the best. Love every episode. Sal, why are you so mad at Final Crisis? That look you gave Ben made me crack up. I am not big on DC so I wasn't sure why you showed such distain.

@comicpop

9 жыл бұрын

Super singing. But really, it's kind of interesting. It's just so dense.

@QueerComics1994

7 жыл бұрын

It's like poetry, it rhymes.

Still great 7 years later

Why is Ben so pissed at this book? The changes in the Flashpoint Universe are caused by his mother being alive and thus butterflies are being trampled. When Flash kills Thawne to "course correct" the timeline more butterflies are bring trampled and thus The New 52 is born. If he's pissed about paradoxes, don't let him watch/read anything with time travel, because that is why those stories exist. Letting a paradox slide a problem occurs and that's why you get time travel stories. I didn't read comics growing up either, I only recently picked it up, so it isn't that (I'm 27 by the way). Actually, this show is amazing, and even though Ben's confusion is annoying here, I love that most of the time Ben and Ethan are on the same page as me when it comes to asking questions.

@1337snake888

2 жыл бұрын

How does the Flash not existing in the future retroactively cause Superman's ship to land in a different place in the past

i really loved flashpoint thanks for doing a back issues on it, Also im really enjoy Futures End even tho i know its going to end up being pointless and stupid lol. Great job as always keep up the good work!

@comicpop

10 жыл бұрын

Thanks! If it fixes DC's continuity, I'll sing its praises.

This is hands down... no questions asked... the BEST INTRO I have ever seen on comicpop.

2:53 then ethan's reaction was great

So freaking excited for when the TV show flash on cw does this story. This and rebirth are probably my favorite flash stories.

@comicpop

9 жыл бұрын

nahte724 I'm betting we see a variation on Crisis first.

@nahte724

9 жыл бұрын

I don't honestly care which comes first, as long as we see them both.

Loved this episode, Ethan does a great Batman voice.

@comicpop

10 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

BatSpray! The best tool on that BatBelt!!

@comicpop

10 жыл бұрын

And you rouse from it like waking from a wonderful dream!

That ending tho.😂😂😂 I love you guys.

Why The New 52 is bad? For new readers like me it is very good.

@javierobregon2081

9 жыл бұрын

It's great for new reader, but long time readers here it because that happened before was just thrown in the trash. And fans don t want to read the same origin again.

@javierobregon2081

9 жыл бұрын

+Jobregon300 “Javi” MarvelFan *New *Hate.

@SrGurkman

8 жыл бұрын

I started reading with the New 52, but gradually found myself gravitating toward older stories because I couldn't take New 52 Super or Wonder Woman. Hopefully they will start letting characters be fun and have families again.

@BlueScarabGuy

6 жыл бұрын

The concept of a New 52 isn't a bad thing. Heck, both the first full reboot of the DC Universe (Crisis on Infinite Earths and the new universe it established) and the current soft reboot (DC Rebirth) are really, really good. It's just that from all that I've heard, the actual New 52 we got was really, really poorly planned, with writers very much in the middle of storylines just having everything upended overnight with no real warning, and no real unified plan for what a full reboot of the DCU even meant. Plus, lots of bad writing.

The beginning of Ben's long-running feud with time travel. Bought trades since I started watching Back Issues: 8

funny thing is that the war between Themyscira and Atlantis could have been prevented if Aquaman would have told wonder woman that he practice polygamy before they banged... but i am nitpicking

Two big SO moments of the video: 4:03 24:16 I was laughing SO hard))

Who would tell that batman multiverse encounter of the end of this video was going to be a prelude to the Flashpoint movie from the next year which so much freakin batman in all the place

Great episode guys, but this episode embodies one of the major reasons I dislike the DC Universe, because it seems like concepts such as "logic", "continuity", "good writing" are foreign way too often! That story is one of the most bizarre, off the wall, so ridiculous I cant believe someone reviewed it and thought "Lets publish this and then change the entire universe because of it!!!" like...WOW...anyways, good job guys! I know the stories have been overkilled by other people, but I would enjoy back issues episodes on Death of Superman and Death of Spiderman just for the reactions Ben and Ethan

@comicpop

10 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I entirely agree with that issue with DC. I think we've gotta do more Death of...'s on this show.

DC animated movie Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox

35:25 Until you have a child...UNTIL YOU HAVE A CHILD...you will never understand!

Weird timeline logic, but it was a fun story.

I haven't read the book in a long time but in the movie a lot of the plot holes were solved

Look at sal with the slight v and floral shirt

Thon has multiple versions of himself running throughout the time stream, because damn, he's OP

Here is to in enviable video bump when the movie comes ou.

Still my favorite episode!!!

That little batman skit at the end was pretty funny

Rewatching this episode and realized that we need an "if you run on the cosmic treadmill" tshirt

24:22 the scarlet seamster

Barry Allen helped pull Superboy into the speed force in Infinite Crisis

@comicpop

9 жыл бұрын

superfly332 He sure did.

I absolutely love the end 😂

love the video, but the animated movie shows the comic was better then the comic.

Who else is here to prep for the flash movie because they haven’t read flashpoint in years?

Hey guys! I love the show. I have a request to make for next time, or one of the following episodes: could you talk about Batman: No Man's Land? I remember reading it as a kid and it taking forever, but I remember loving it. Thanks!

@comicpop

10 жыл бұрын

transactguy Love NML! Gotta do that!

@brianadkins3880

Жыл бұрын

@@comicpop So...when? lol

Could you guys review Erik Larsen`s Savage Dragon ?

@comicpop

10 жыл бұрын

heh I never read SD. I was more of a Spawn and Maxx guy. ;)

flash point was great loved the part were flash gave bruce a letter from his dad

3:36 "...a.k.a. Barry Allen the original Flash.." Hey, Jay Garrick! You hearin' this!? lol (Just teasing. 😉

I f'n love you guys.

I re-watched this episode and realized that Ben looks like Shane from TWD (Comics and even a bit like the TV show)

The thumbnail makes Ethan look like he has a series on animal planet

We know Sal lives near the Kubert School in Dover New Jersey. Don't try to find his house lol

For me the worst animated movies from DC was the one that really tried to introduce Supergirl and the one where they went extreme with the muscle drawings.

@comicpop

10 жыл бұрын

Roid-rage DC is the worst era, to me.

Is there a full comic book series about an Atlantis vs. Themyscira War? Because the premise sounds fucking awesome. I'd read the shit outta that.

@comicpop

10 жыл бұрын

There were some Flashpoint tie-ins that give a deeper insight into the world and stuff. I'm sure they showed the war much more in-depth.

The tie-ins are actually worth reading, a bunch of "what if"s

I love u guys but I could explain the plot inconsistencies, I have a working knowledge of timey whimy stuff and all but the Superman ship crashing in metropolis can be explained

also the late 80s X-Men Cross-overs Mutant Massacre , Fall of the Mutants and the Inferno . for a review .?

@comicpop

10 жыл бұрын

I've gotta do more mutant books, definitely.

Can you do some reverse flash , reverse flash Danial west content

@13:00

This was the first comic book I ever bought.

You guys should do All Star Western, mayhaps?

@comicpop

10 жыл бұрын

I haven't really read much of it at all, but I'd be willing to give it a try.

@cicadianrhythm

3 жыл бұрын

@@comicpop Hi, I'm from the future, and I, too, would like to see some All Star Western. Or any Jonah Hex, really. Maybe Shadows West? It's got a very unaverage bear in it.

FC is so good

Sorry but Aquaman and WW conflict explained wrong. Your story is the animated movie's plot. In comic, they are in love and gone get merried but in wedding day Ocean Master (Aquaman's brother) and Diana's aunt (Hippolyte's sister) made a set up and Hippolyte and Garth (Aqualad) killed. Both side blamed each other and war started.

@pedrohenriquedasilvaroque1085

3 жыл бұрын

Arthur and Diana planned to get married, but it would be a political move to unite the Amazons and Atlantes, Diana even knew that Arthur was in a relationship with Mera,

No. We're not doing that....get out of my house....i don't wanna see that ever again

Congrats @SalSaysWhat one view for every subscriber.

When Barry goes back in time to save him mom he does it by stopping Eobard. RF technically no longer exists but he's in the timeline so he's a none entity. R-flash was inspired by a flash that doesnt exist and he doesnt go back to his own timeline. He exist in his own timeline. If you take something out of a box that's designed to fit around the thing, and you alter the box so that the thing No longer fits, the thing doesn't go away. It's just there. Now Eobard is just going through time because he nothing else to do.

I think that _"Flashpoint"_ is one of the greatest alternate reality stories ever written... But that people have a major problem with it and have allowed it to have a bad reputation... All because it ends in the birth of the _"New 52"._ I understand hating the ending, the _"Post- Crisis Continuity"_ at DC is my favorite period in comics... And this book is kind of it's Tombstone.... But ignoring that aspect... It's a PERFECT Flash story and one of the greatest Timelines DC or any other Comic Book Company will every have.

They should do a future imperfect review

I would love to see +comicPOP! do a back issues of Zero Hour

@comicpop

8 жыл бұрын

+illana levi Episode 110 ;)

@illanalevi6091

8 жыл бұрын

:)

there is a delay kind of like this comment very delayed. LOL flash when he goes back to save his mother is in a temporal interference stream allowing him to be an anomaly until exits it fixi,g himself to a centralized space/time. When he goes back to the time that is supposed to be his present he locks himself into that space/time and the effects of the temporal Distortion begin to catch up with him indicated by his memories beginning to be overwritten with the new timeline.

The explanation was that if you go so fast, you create a sonic boom. Flash ran so fast he created a temporal boom. Makes sense to me as time is the fourth dimension.