You are by far the best person doing car reviews on KZread. You always have your facts down, you don’t let too many of your personal opinions get in the way of the data, and your editing and graphics are always on point. Keep up the great work Alex.

@GrandHuevotes

2 жыл бұрын

Good channel but he lets some of his jeep/Chrysler/jaguar bias come through sometimes

@seanc5112

2 жыл бұрын

I agree! I love how he does segments, I find it very handy.

I've had mine for a few months and it's been great. I get 29 miles in electric mode.

@JamesDornbos

2 жыл бұрын

29 is pretty good. Hoping they can carry this range number over to the Grand Cherokee.

@dbasiliere

2 жыл бұрын

I drive very gently now at the my age (and I am not in a hurry) so I get about the same. I will try not to deplete the battery 100% (as per recommendation). My Wrangler drives and rides smoother than the 2014 GC I traded in. It had the air suspension and bumps on one side only jerk the occupants around terribly. The wrangler handles bumps way better.

Great review as usual Alex. As an owner of a 4xe Sahara I want to mention that you never are truely powered by the gas engine alone. The Wrangler uses about 80% for electric only. The remaining 15% is reserved for hybrid only. The charge or that battery is managed well by the computer. If you bring up the hybrid screen on the UConnect screen you can watch the gas and electric working in tandem.

I really like Alex. He couldn't keep from snickering at the price. $62k is a pretty big chunk of lithium.

@Michael-li3id

2 жыл бұрын

wait until 3 years from now when they can be spec'd out to $90k with no tax credit. Rubi's can already hit high 70's

Agreed 100%! You are by far the best channel doing car reviews on KZread. Always professional, lots of facts and great comparisons, great HD video ! Keep up the good work!

You can't get more professional and interesting than this. Great video as always.

Excelent review Years later this stood up well..

I just bought a Sahara pretty much striped and got about 3k under MSP, but I had to buy it 2000 miles away (Bristol, TN) and drive 1950 miles back to AZ. In AZ all jeep dealers wanted 5K over MSRP. Anyway, I just got back and took about 3 days(can't do that in an all electric). I want to add some comments and things I notice. 1. I got it with less that 1% battery, but even still when you pull off a freeway exit for gas, you are usually breaking petty hard. Being as such as soon as I was going under about 8 MPG such as pulling into a gas station parking lot, it was pure electric. Which was pretty cool, I had some looks, but no one approached me. 2. Stop and go traffic with a dead battery was strange, sometimes it would go electric and other times gas (at just leave the foot off the brake). It was very noticeable and not great. I wish there was a way to turn electric off all the way, even in e-save mode it continued it's on/off. You can't turn off the start/stop mode all the way, like in a normal JL. 3. This was unexpected. but Going down any grade, on the freeway, you just set the cruise control , and no brakes required, it just regens the battery. very cool when you see all the people braking in front or around you. 4. Lastly, on hilly terrain the motor is stopped and started many times per mile as it has charge/discharge. MY motor sense tell me that is not a good thing, but we'll see. My 2007 JK has been going strong for 14 years. And to add, thanks Alex for going through everything. Jeep didn't show me anything. I took off from the Dealer lot and went 600 miles. I couldn't figure out how to control the volume from the wheel.

I have the 2024 Willy’s 4xe with 10,000 hard miles lol and still love it as day one . I must admit it did take me around 1 month to actually get to know the 4xe to get the most out of it since most of our drives are freeway and off road and only use full electric in town and off road and e save on our freeway drives etc and we really don’t use hybrid mode because it really sucks the battery life down quick. I had one problem and that problem was the charger that came with it that took 12 to 15 hours to charge it so I bought a fast charger for $180 and now it takes around 1.75 hours to fully charge it a big difference but I do understand many may not have a 220 outlet so they should have added both charging plug but besides that we be loving it it’s truly amazing vehicle and I haven’t been packing in fuel while off roading.

Great review from Alex as always. I've never been a Jeep fan. Heavy off-road stuff isn't my thing. I'm sure Jeep makes a lot of variants for lots of different uses and there's lots of fans, I'm not one though. I'll risk giving up off-road capability for better reliability and higher MPG.

Excellent video thank you. And, I love my Jeep! (2 door)

So much great information.

Alex is by far one of the top Car reviewers and deserves a larger subscription base. My hunch is younger watchers stick with Load and Noisy reviewers.

@oi32df

2 жыл бұрын

yes ,but there is not one like Raiti's Rides that rubs cars like him .

Nice Review Alex. I enjoy and like your perspective on cars. I this review most of the parts you had a sarcastic smile on your face. Do you think this is not a practical PHEV if someone can plug it in Daily? If you were in this kind of market will you consider buying this if you could plug it in Daily? Thank you in advance for the response.

Damn by far best reviewer on KZread. Can’t wait til you get your hands on a Bronco.

The list of front lockers is very short but the gladiator (by default) ZR2 and powerwagon also have front lockers, with the pw being the only non jeep vehicle with a locking diff in a solid front axle, conveniently made by the same parent company. There are lsd's in the front of tremor's and raptors, so honorable mention. Also my grand cherokee (2008) has front and rear LSD's which is honestly amazing

Thx, Alex for your outstanding and thorough reviews. My boyfriend is buying this wrangler on Tuesday. I am not a fan of the Fiat/Chrysler relationship especially with the Italian-made 2.0L hybrid engine. I’m concerned about it’s longevity with its $60K price tag. You did a great job showcasing the vehicle and its options - he wanted a 2-door but the 4xe doesn’t come in anything other than 4-doors and ZF’s automatic.

Great review Alex. My only concern with this vehicle would be longevity of the battery in Canadian winters. How long will an average EV battery last during our harsh winters? Time will tell. Keep up the great work Alex!

The editing was odd on this one. What you were talking about didn't match where the Jeep was going (on road vs. off road).

This I fantastic! Definitely cures my Brian Cooley from CNET On Cars fix!

AWESOME REVIEW!!!

Power wagon is another example of solid front axle + front locker.

@jmway5929

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, came here to say this, but obviously a completely different class/size of vehicle.

Say what you want: if you want the real review for a car, Alex got you covered. Great comprehensive look at this thing.

Hey Alex, re: solid axle and front locker, since 2019, it’s only the wrangler. G Class moved to IFS.

Oh, and you need a shirt that has you in a car driving up and over a mountain that says 2,200ft on it somewhere.

Another great review. My only gripe is the scorecard on the fuel. Owning a plug in and an EV I understand it’s so much more subjective. However you are reviewing a PLUG IN the people who buy this will PLUG IN (at least overnight most cases) therefore you should give your review by using the PLUG IN. (I’m assuming at this point you had it for a few days). It’s also a disservice to Jeep on going to all this trouble of making a plug in and not realizing the effect of ownership. I understand you saved it at the end a bit in summary but this is a huge point to gloss over. Plug ins are a great transition for the whole industry and for those where EV’s are a bridge too far. With current supplies I think you can produce 10 plug ins for every 1 EV.

23 miles of EV range only around town is very helpful. I wonder if the next generation of Wrangler will be hybrid only across the range?

@gbaby4rb64

2 жыл бұрын

I seen a test the with the 4XE Rubicon and it got 27 miles of range

@CruiseControl1

2 жыл бұрын

@@gbaby4rb64 Even better

@fortcrafterbossbehold9027

2 жыл бұрын

Please no, the Wrangler should be mostly hybrid and EV, but please preserve the 392...

@CruiseControl1

2 жыл бұрын

@@fortcrafterbossbehold9027 If the 392 was a hev would you complain though? Get 20miles of EV to not waste fuel for the commute and then have the power of the V8 when it want it.

@fortcrafterbossbehold9027

2 жыл бұрын

@@CruiseControl1 You see this is the problem. It's the simple people with the genius ideas, and the people in power and with money to implement ideas who have the idiotic ones. Forget HEV, we need to have some vehicle with a big nasty thirsty V8 and PHEV system capable of delivering not just 30, but maybe 60 to 80 miles of pure electric range and the plug in charge port. What is the point of putting a plug in hybrid electric system and then putting a boring eco engine on top of that with all the drawbacks of ICE without the visceral joys of one???

This engine combination would be great in the renegade

I believe Lincoln only makes SUV's now, so there are at least 3 SUV-only manufacturers in North America.

@gundamfan19

2 жыл бұрын

Buick too as far as I know.

The wrangler 4xe is proof electrification is the future. It’s a better car for almost all use cases. Quicker, so much more nimble for city driving, tons of torque for off road and generates less pollution. Just wish it had a larger battery so most would be able to commute on EV only.

FYI, much easier to put the rear windows in before securing the soft top up front.

I seen a test the with the 4XE Rubicon and it got 27 miles of range

. 1st. is it ez ta disconnect stop start ? 2nd. can ya hock up a 2,000 inverter box ta use something like a Gorge Forman grill ?

Alex I just Sold my 2004 Grand Cherokee Limited like yours there with 250,000 Miles on it.. The guy that purchased it from me had all smiles on his face cause it was still in very fairly good condition. Ive seen him driving it around town already. Love and Miss my Jeep already.

That efficiency...

Can you leave it in the "Ready" mode over night if camping out like a Prius? That really makes it an amazing camp mobile if so.

This would be perfect.... if it were available in lower trims. PHEV Sport S? Can't wait for the feature trickle down.

I average 24.5 mpg combined in my 2021 Wrangler 2.0 and if you don’t go over 75 mph it can do about 27 mpg on the highway.

Based on my experience with a 2021 Pacifica hybrid, I am not too confident in this vehicle. 5 month old Pacifica hybrid and is already staying at the dealer for several days to figure out electrical issues.

@moviefan4life166

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. There have been reports of these just shutting down despite reading high charge levels.

@wacoodude

2 жыл бұрын

the edrive system between the pacifica and wrangler are completely different design and suppliers and technology. time will tell if its more reliable.

@John-vh1fk

2 жыл бұрын

@@wacoodude that’s interesting. I didn’t know that. I knew the transmissions were different but hadn’t really researched much else in the hybrid system. Thanks for the info! 👍

@John-vh1fk

2 жыл бұрын

@@moviefan4life166 I’ve seen videos of Pacificas doing that. Knock on wood ours hasn’t yet.

You forgot the Power Wagon for straight axle and front locker.

Editing is off (inverted) between the three screens during the driving sessions

Its a pity we don't have the EV mode or the ESave mode on the Pacifica Hybrid

This seems like a pretty easy dirt road. I drive my Kia Soul on a road like this every day.

I want a 2 door 4xE

2022 vs 2021 whats the difference? Mine is on order. Not made yet... will it be a 2021 or 2022?

9:57 I thought you used Electric Avenue on your last electrified car review. What? You didn't think of Electric Eye, or anything from Carmen Electra?

does the Bronco really exist yet when they stopped sale til the next model year?

I have had my Sahara 4xe about a month. I have driven just under 700 miles to date and have not put gas in yet. We do mostly local driving and plug in once or twice a day. I have also had it up Mt.Charleston NV several times( Not to the top, but to Kyle Canyon Campground) and the regen on the way down got me about 5 miles. Of course it ate up all the electricity going up :)

new g-wagon is not solid axle in the front

I wonder when a fully-electric Wrangler will arrive...

@ryanhiggins1367

2 жыл бұрын

2023 is the target according to Jeep.

Gwagen; 3 lockers, front, rear, center but independent front suspension. The solid front axle was removed in the redesign (thank God).

Iconic Jeep stayed true to form! Aerodynamic should not dictate design. It is form that follows function, it is the dog that wags the tail, not the other way around.

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

Fuel consumption is a part of function. Better aerodynamics increase that at almost no cost in any other functional attribute.

@spinmouth4114

2 жыл бұрын

@@markmiller3279 As long as humans pilot vehicles, a vehicle's function is to carry said pilot, passengers and cargo safely to it's destination. A level beltline and level roofline helps a human pilot determine depth perception using leading lines, rather than a forced perspective. A windshield with a more upright angle helps ingress egress rather than bang ones head against a diagonal a piller. True Sports Utility Vehicle design isn't just a sales moniker. Before Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) Standards, vehicle design was generally sound. However since the EPA crackdown, aerodynamics have become a crutch for internal combustion engine EPA challenges.

dam prices $$$

For off-road, since you’re going slow, they could have easily ensured 20% battery for when you need the power, and then use a more fuel efficient engine (4 cylinder)

@anydaynow01

2 жыл бұрын

It's nice they have the charge mode and battery hold mode when in those situations, it's surprising how much power is recovered when going down steep slopes. Volts I know have the mountain mode that have the exact mode your talking about which is a sort of charge mode to recover up to 20% battery pretty aggressively.

There is not a solid independent front axle in the new G wagen. Baiting for responses!!!!!

Put this in the gladiator, and I'm sold.

the ice engine has 270, the eTorque engine 44 hp the electric motor 134 hp, help me out, how does it have 370 hp?

the small rock on the tire bother me am i the only 1?

Any word on a PHEV Durango?

Hope Jeep/ram would offer a vehicle with 5000lb towing and 50 mile electric range. Would allow towing travel trailer on long trips with fuel and use EV only the rest of the time (commute, city driving etc). Would be great if it could seat 6 (bench or 3 row).

@doc.christopherthompson324

2 жыл бұрын

. Just gotta check if it got room for a bigger battery ? if so, then it's all about profit margins & evil sorry ass bean counters ? Ha.Ha.Ha

@anydaynow01

2 жыл бұрын

@@doc.christopherthompson324 Yeah I was surprised when ford said they weren't making a PHEV F series, a 3/4 to 1 ton PHEV would be perfect for me and my needs. Electric for Home Depot and trash runs, and diesel range extender for when I'm towing to track days and vacations. In know plenty of folks who would jump on that versus an all electric they can't charge anywhere except home especially when towing.

@AlaskaErik

2 жыл бұрын

Get an F-150 for that.

2022

I really wanna like the wanglers...I really do! It's just their manufacture that make me take pause...I'm 6'4" tall..I weight about 200#s Evidently I was not the targeted market here... I found myself sitting way too close to the steering wheel even with the seat moved back to its maximum position. Yet I was still not remotely comfortable in this rig. Sadly..I will not be driving one in the future..At least until I spend extra cash for some sort of extended frame brackets. My son owns one..I'd like to own one...It just aint gonna happen anytime soon though. Looking at you next Bronco...wait...WHAT?! ...Next year...maybe? Aw...COME ON FORD!

Waiting for the Bronco, to come out with a full bev!

@JamesDornbos

2 жыл бұрын

Bronco Raptor comes first and with Ford focusing on the Lightning currently, it might be a while, unfortunately.

Great review! Why do some say that Jeeps are Junk?

@MrMoisesj23

2 жыл бұрын

People will make modifications using cheap parts and not doing it properly. One of the few vehicles that allow so many modifications

What is the best opción of engine, v6 or 2.0 turbo?, I am wana buy one

@Johnny_Socko

2 жыл бұрын

2.0 Turbo has more torque and better performance, I think it is what I would pick. The V6 is a good engine though...I had a car with that same engine and it was very reliable & made good power.

The cost on this is Audi money high, not sure what to make of that. Weird cross shop but very similar to what I paid for my Q5 PHEV. Kind of hard to justify in some respects - Jeep is just not nearly as good as a daily.

@tallll70

2 жыл бұрын

it will never be as good daily, but i see girls and older women driving these as daily, it just depends how crazy the want them

It gets an A for noise at 74DB?!

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

That has to have been an error. It's one of the noisiest mainstream vehicles he's ever tested. It deserves a D, but he grades gently, so will give it a B-.

@parsley0120

2 жыл бұрын

It’s given that grade based upon the class of vehicle it is/competes with. It’s not going to get an A in comparison with an S class. 74 is good for something that’s not sound deadened and more aerodynamic. This is an off-road capable brick with a soft top.

@GHinWI

2 жыл бұрын

@@parsley0120 : sure, but that’s a misleading rating for the ~95% of consumers who purchase a Jeep exclusively to commute to an office job or go grocery shopping.

Guilt for what? Driving what I want to drive? I drive two hybrids, but it’s not for guilt. It’s because I like the convenience of EV range or fuel savings. Not cuz a stupid politician says the world is ending in 8 years.

Wheelbase is equivalent to a 2000 Ford Expedition.

Sahara inbound!

It seems so complicated

Isn't this the 2021 model?

Blue tow hooks on the High Altitude 4xe differentiate it from other JLs. So technically they don't look exactly like other Jeeps 😀

Cabin noise bad but gets an A?

@AlaskaErik

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same.

@damilolaakanni

2 жыл бұрын

Probably compared with the other vehicle in its class (which is the Bronco).

Can I buy two of them and get $15k tax credit in one year, or do I have to buy them in different years to get both tax credits?

@ryanhiggins1367

2 жыл бұрын

I believe so. The credit is per vehicle (thats why leasing agents can take advantage of it). That is, as long as your tax liability is at least $15000.

Love the channel but wish you had a better video editor.

5:27 Wouldn't Buick be considered an all-SUV brand too? I get that it's all crossovers on Buick's lineup and not SUVs, but the same can be said for most of the Jeep lineup? Moreover, Jeep has the Gladiator, while Buick has nothing but SUVs/crossovers. That would arguable put Jeep's lineup in a similar position as GMC's, which is mostly SUVs, and one medium and full-sized truck.

The title is misleading as this review is in the 2021 version not the 2022 as mentioned on the title

20” wheels on a Wrangler are just stupid. When off-roading you want more sidewall. The Mercedes G-wagen went to an independent front suspension in 2019. Part of the reason that the G has front and rear locking differentials is because it needs them - the G has terrible axle articulation.

@watershed44

2 жыл бұрын

@M1911jln "Mall Crawler" lol

@AlaskaErik

2 жыл бұрын

The Sahara was designed to be a pavement princess for those who want the Jeep image, but will never go off road. So 20 inch tires are totally appropriate for the Sahara. My Rubicon has 18 inch tires.

@mowcowbell

Жыл бұрын

I do wish they would have offered the 4xe Sahara trim with 18" wheels. I have a 2023 Wrangler Sahara 4xe on order and may end up swapping the 20" rims for some 17 or 18" rims.

Can u only imagine the problems this system will have...

The removable top you showed doesn’t look secure, it looks like somebody could break in very easily! 😳

@alexanderdeburdegala4609

2 жыл бұрын

Then you get a Hardtop or Skytop

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, they could, but that's always a risk with a soft top. A utility knife will break into any of them.

Alex how to you keep your hair so healthy? My receding hairline and balding makes me feel bad 😔

@Sylvan_dB

2 жыл бұрын

Genetics. My over 70 father in law still a full head of hair while I'm all but bald. My boys will probably inherit his hair.

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sylvan_dB Yeah, it's a crapshoot. I'm 58 with a thick head of gray hair, but my two brothers are balding, like my father. Both my grandfathers had hair like mine.

"21 mpg average" - vs. 16 average mpg 3.6 NA engine? This seems like a lot of complication and increased costs in future maintenance for a very small gain, no? If you do not drive a lot, I don't see how this will make any sense over several years, particularly considering higher initial price.

@connorPiper0

2 жыл бұрын

Well the 4xe is selling very well. I think the electric range is more important to people than the hybrid MPG

@kens97sto171

2 жыл бұрын

One thing to consider in that the power output on this is much better than the 3.6 L naturally aspirated. Not that it's slow. But except for the hemi-powered Wrangler this 4X e is the most powerful Wrangler you can buy. I think 375HP and 470 lb-ft of torque. So you're gaining some fuel efficiency along with getting a pretty good power output. For me personally I think being able to cruise up some fire trails or through the forest in virtual silence definitely adds to the experience of off-roading a bit. But it is really expensive. But quite frankly all wranglers are really expensive. The difference in fuel economy that he mentioned doesn't seem exactly right to me. If he's traveling almost all of the way on electric both directions he's not going to average only 20 miles per gallon it's going to be much better than that overall. Versus the 16 miles per gallon on the regular turbo 4. Haven't really seen anybody yet give total fuel costs. When he says 20 miles per gallon I believe that means when the engine is running. In hybrid mode.

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

Electric motors and batteries don't require much in the way of maintenance. Good hybrids have proven to be inexpensive to own. I suppose the clutch might eventually need work, but nothing too exotic.

@mountainhobo

2 жыл бұрын

@@connorPiper0 "Well the 4xe is selling very well" -- Sure, why not. People do not always buy what is long term rational.

@mountainhobo

2 жыл бұрын

@@markmiller3279 "Electric motors and batteries don't require much in the way of maintenance" -- You forgot to add the 2l turbo engine. I was comparing it to the relatively bland but very reliable 3.6 l normally aspirated unit. As for the electric components, they are the bane of many luxury brands.

Buick is also SUV only...

This is not a 2022. This is a 2021. The 2022 can not be ordered yet, it has not even been confirmed.

I really want more plug-ins, I think they’re the best solution for a lot of people, but these Wranglers are just so aggressively unappealing…

Love my old Jeep. These new models are just ugly imo. I'll stick with my 72 cj.

I really like the idea, but they failed with a small battery and extremely short electric range. It was a pass on buying this model if I'm going to spend that type of money, I would like a long electric range

This is not a aerodynamic Toyota Prius, officially one of the FUGLIEST vehicles ever designed. This is also not the Tesla Cyber Truck, officially out reserved by the Ford F-150 Lightning electric pick up truck built with a level beltline, level roofline, ground clearance and cargo capacity. The people have spoken. A nod to Jeep for keeping a boxy design, now if the back seat was a little bigger, that would be nice. Alternatively the Jeep Gladiator will do just fine. Again a level beltline, level roof line, cargo capacity and ground clearance. 👍

Great review! However given the poor build quality and dismal reliability, I think I will stick with my Forester.

@Mike-.

2 жыл бұрын

That's quite the generalization. I've had multiple 4doors and not a single problem on over 150,000 miles between them.

@alexanderdeburdegala4609

2 жыл бұрын

Forester isn't a competitive vehicle for a Wrangler lol 😆

@CrazyWeeMonkey

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexanderdeburdegala4609 A vehicle doesn't need to share identical capabilities in order to be competitive. If someone is looking for an off-road capable 'compact' SUV the Forester is very competitive against this. It rides better, is considerably more reliable, has better on-road-handling, and is much quieter on the highway. Subarus aren't as capable off-road but they're still *very* capable, and for most people -including buyers in this segment- that's well-more than enough.

@alexanderdeburdegala4609

2 жыл бұрын

@@CrazyWeeMonkey haha awe look at you trying to defend a moronic argument. They aren't competitors in the slightest. The Forester is a great small SUV it is not am off roader by any means. Also I get better MPG then your Forester but I have a diesel. You might as well being comparing a chihuahua to a husky for being a sled dog lol 😆

@AB-jk7tw

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexanderdeburdegala4609 True - much less shop time required.

Intrigued by a grand cherokee L 4xe. Definitely not a wrangler guy.

Wow this thing is loaded to the gills, and expensive as heck. lol You'd almost think that the agenda was to make it to expensive to drive a car. lol Alex ALWAYS loves a loaded vehicle that costs a small fortune..ah lol

@M1911jln

2 жыл бұрын

Wranglers are expensive.

@MrNicholasAaron

2 жыл бұрын

Reviewers don’t always have a say on which trim they get, and the press fleet has a high proportion of upper trim levels to show off the bells and whistles.

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrNicholasAaron True, but this one was about as basic as a Wrangler gets. I suppose it's what was available, because it's nothing like Alex's dream Wrangler.

A 4 door Wrangler goes against everything a Jeep has stood for since it was created really.

@damilolaakanni

2 жыл бұрын

🤔 how?

Classic hybrid, pay more for less mileage

The reason why the four door Wrangler is the bulk of sales is because the company deliberately makes less two doors whether the demand is there or not, the profit margin is higher on the four door models so they figure that they can force buyers to accept a four door if it is the only thing on the lot. Fait Accompli.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

2 жыл бұрын

Not exactly, sales of the 2 door model has been fairly stable. Wrangler sales didn't go from ~20-30K a year to 250k a year because people started wanting a 2 door off road vehicle more, they got there because they wanted a Wrangler shaped RAV4. Now clearly the Wrangler Unlimited is more capable than any crossover, but that's the demographic the 4-door has attracted.

@watershed44

2 жыл бұрын

@@AAutoBuyersGuide Bottom line is you cannot buy what the manufacturer won't produce. They push people to four doors because that is what is on the lots and the majority of the product mix is.

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

@@watershed44 What he pointed out is that they aren't producing fewer of them. The four-door sales are new buyers. The company isn't stupid. They're making what people ask for. The profits won't be significantly different because the prices aren't that different.

@watershed44

2 жыл бұрын

@@markmiller3279 LOL...no, the company is making what they make the highest profit margin on, then they claim that their "internal research" confirms that...yeah sure.

60K jeep....talk about sucker every minute....

@tallll70

2 жыл бұрын

it's bunch yeah, but it changes perspective if you want to know the details of changes and how much developments cost

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

Minus the tax credit. Most buyers of these will pay enough taxes to claim all of it. There are also sometimes state credits. His dream Wrangler would be more like $53k or less. Still expensive, but not as crazy. The fuel savings does help offset that, too. If the person drove 20 miles a day on plug-in power, equal to a gallon of gas, for 250 days a year, they could save $1000 per year in gas (in an expensive gas place). Of course, the electricity isn't free, so cut that in half, to $500. In a decade of ownership, that $5000 would make this meaningfully less expensive. So call it a $48k Wrangler.

@Alex on Autos Nobody that buys a Wrangler cares about or wants hybrids, EVs, or anything related. The answer to a question that NOBODY asked. I bet unless they give these away they won't sell.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

2 жыл бұрын

That's not logical based on the demand for the 4xe, they have the shortest dealer lot dwell time of any Wrangler trim and are currently the best selling plug in hybrid. Just because the jeep traditionalists think it's a sin doesn't mean it's not a sin that sells.

@watershed44

2 жыл бұрын

@@AAutoBuyersGuide There will always been a few outliers who want the newest gadgets thus the immediate demand, the hybrid Wrangler is one of them. Once that rarified group satisfy that demand the rest will sit and gather dust on the lots. The overwhelming majority of Wrangler buyers want nothing to do with hybrids or EVs.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

2 жыл бұрын

@@watershed44 That’s not what Jeeps internal research said, there is a reason they launched the hybrid system on the wrangler first, there was more interest from wrangler buyers and intenders than for the other jeep models

@dmmmwerd

2 жыл бұрын

I think there is that backpacker contingent of Wrangler buyers that will also want an electrified (though maybe not full electric) and rugged vehicle.

@anydaynow01

2 жыл бұрын

@@watershed44 Yep this is true, until they actually drive a vehicle with a hybrid powertrain and realize just how much torque is on tap right from a stand still. Not only that but when they realize they only need to fuel up once a month of daily driving, if that, yet they still have the convenience of fueling up at a regular filling station on a road trip, it's game over PHEV wins, you know if they have a place to charge at home.