addendum: so as some of y'all pointed out, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx is probably the first mafioso album. I will hold that L and say that J popularized/glamorized it whatevwr way you wanna put it Edit: I also kinda effed up the 50/Ja section. Technically 50 didn't run with Preme, he ran with a 🥷🏾 named Black Justice (5% names man what can you say) TL;DR Just was one of Preme's top dogs and so that's where the connection comes. 50 didn't actually meet Preme until after he got locked up (which would kinda explain why I he was mad about Ghetto Koran tbh) I know neither of those errors actually take away from the overall narrative of the video, but still I hate that I didn't double back and confirm what I thought I already knew. it is what us tho

@firestone2178

14 күн бұрын

If you were forced to pick between Eminem or Drake leading Rap, who would you pick.

@IknowMoreThanYou

14 күн бұрын

Nas popularized mafioso rap with it was written and the firm; Nas was the FAR MORE popular rapper at the time.

@kpaso6419

14 күн бұрын

@@IknowMoreThanYou Yep IWW basically was the first mainstream mafioso album that breaks through. OB4CL and Kool G Raps first 3-4 albums laid the groundwork for mafioso.

@AngeBiampandou

14 күн бұрын

​@@IknowMoreThanYou No he didn't. Kool G Rap is the father of Mafioso rap and Raekwon popularized it not Jay-Z or Nas

@brianlarkins4250

14 күн бұрын

Jay didn’t make mafioso rap popular Reasonable doubt flopped was not popping back in 96. Nas made it popular Raekwon Ghostface rebirth it. You have to remember AZ do or Die only built for Cuban linx infamous all came out 95 Nas was on all 3 of them classics. Then Nas it was written is what took mafia music mainstream. Reasonable doubt was Jay z best Nas and Az impression remember Jay first single Nas voice. The firm. Jay gets credit for what Nas did. Also Nas has more longevity than Jay z and way better catalog and more consistent. Vol 2 is a Ruff Ryders compilation Vol 3 is trash age like milk Dynasty another compilation Blueprint 2 hella filler has age like dodoo. Kingdom blueprint 3 lmao trash magnum Carter super garbage. I agree with everything you said about jayz and glad someone finally said what I been saying Jayz was Drake before Drake

F.D. bout to drop in 10mins “meet the bills”

@fnmiln8558

14 күн бұрын

This seriously made me cackle too hard at my work desk. 😅😂🤣

@oso1165

14 күн бұрын

LMFAOOOOO cryinggg

@moonlitegamer

14 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@potatoman7475

14 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

@ArmandoVerdugo8

14 күн бұрын

This comment right here is the one lmfao

FD and uncle bill's next collab is gonna be a cookout brawl

@moonlitegamer

14 күн бұрын

An unc off if you will 😂

@ocher8931

14 күн бұрын

😂😂

@manhattanprojekt1275

14 күн бұрын

Spades or dominoes?

@SG-cv4pf

14 күн бұрын

@@manhattanprojekt1275 Dominoes. Spades is boring as hell.

@TheatricsOfTheAbsurd

14 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Lil Bill and F.D. Signifier are like the Jay Z and Nas of cornbreadtube.

@larrelllewis9407

14 күн бұрын

FACTS they are the Uncs of Black KZread 😆

@DigitalRag3X

14 күн бұрын

I feel bad for whoever is Jay Z 😭

@rose.sinclair

14 күн бұрын

Cornbreadtube is insane 😂

@kmarcol1

14 күн бұрын

RIGHT Because wtf is cornbreadTubeb😂​@@rose.sinclair

@briscoedaking.

14 күн бұрын

Lil Bill = Magneto FD = Professor X

The famous former teacher we once knew is looking paranoid, now spiraling...

Bill is up 1. Drop another Tyler Perry video and you'll be up 2.

@Fooacta

14 күн бұрын

In six years, when FD finally drops the Tyler Perry vid, he's gonna be morally and legally obligated to pin whatever wild shit comes out your mouth. I cannot wait

@othelliusmaximus

14 күн бұрын

@@Fooacta I regret nothing

@Fooacta

14 күн бұрын

@@othelliusmaximus And we thank you for your service

@CasualFox12495

14 күн бұрын

I'm still praying for the Trinity Fatu vs Mercedes Monet debate

@chinortega3

14 күн бұрын

​@@CasualFox12495 interesting... Lol

FD and Ice Spice stay catchin strays💀

@preciousbeing2442

14 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

@ericaj4494

11 күн бұрын

I feel he got a personal grude against this girl 😅

Editor had fun with this one

FD don’t do it

@lhump

14 күн бұрын

What’s going on with that?

@NamelessInternaut

14 күн бұрын

Meet the Bills

@jaimesanchez6390

14 күн бұрын

😭😭😭

@lqayyim

14 күн бұрын

@@lhumpI’m seriously trying to find out too but this shit is too funny whatever it is 😭😭😭

@TheMovies102

14 күн бұрын

​@lqayyim there's nothing to it it's really just a joke between the two fan bases because they cover similar topics and often beat each other to the punch when it comes to covering certain topics and the other one gets irritated lol so they throw a little light Jabs at each other... they are friends behind the scenes so it's just a little fun banter between them and their fan bases... we love both of them❤

808’s and heartbreak wasn’t just about a breakup it was also about the guilt and sorrow he experienced from his mothers passing.

@germyz

14 күн бұрын

What people don't realize is that heartbreak can be way more then a break up

@deeel6926

14 күн бұрын

yeah that part blew me away... couldnt really take the rest of his shit seriously after he characterized 808s as "bitchassness" lol

@BraMoore

14 күн бұрын

​​@@deeel6926Lost me comparing ja rule to young thug wtf??

@lostintheark5728

13 күн бұрын

So basically Drake was "what if" this album was a person....interesting

@GesturePasture

12 күн бұрын

@@deeel6926 Yeah that was a crazy backwards take. Also acting as if Kanye didn't drop Yeezus with black skinhead, new slaves, and Blood on the leaves after 808s and MBDTF? And he had a whole interview about "I am a god" only being controversial cuz of his blackness. I agree that a lot of artist's (Drake especially) couldn't exist without Kanye and 808s but the analysis was pretty shallow and kinda regressive there

"Its all coming together like butt cheeks in the strip club" 😭💀

@showdaKOs

14 күн бұрын

The only thing I'll remember from this whole video

@QuentinJenkins

14 күн бұрын

Shout out to Eddie griffin from the Dave Chappelle world series of dice episode

@mbalenhlebuthelezi3198

14 күн бұрын

And didn't even take it back or say sorry after he said it😂😂🤣🤣

@manny8042

13 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂

@pandemoniousivy4651

11 күн бұрын

"big willie is big in west philly" was the one that got me

One day, FD & Lil Bill will finally be able to admit they're actually in love with one another but they're both tops.

@jcmurie

14 күн бұрын

Hear me out: FD is a gentle top Bill is a power bottom

@CasualFox12495

14 күн бұрын

​@@jcmurieThe war is over!!!

@artpatron719

14 күн бұрын

Da faq.

@liathompson2332

14 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

@YetiCoolBrother

14 күн бұрын

Ayo?

Bill: LL was as squeaky clean as it got Me: watches LL lift his shirt and thrust his hips like a jack hammer🥲

@matthewroberts6833

14 күн бұрын

Hence the "as it got".

@BlaqBeanz

14 күн бұрын

@@matthewroberts6833 Will Smith has left the chat.

@matthewroberts6833

14 күн бұрын

@BlaqBeanz Fair point. . . but I remember Will's last album AND Boom, Shake the Room. The thing with Will is that he couldn't be more of a rapper than what he was. LL could. . . he just didn't want to.

@BlaqBeanz

14 күн бұрын

@@matthewroberts6833 facts that's true

Hip hop definitely has a before and after Drake era divide. I hated that jiggy rap era, but at least those dudes could rap and made you feel confident. And as bad as it was for promoting materialism, it wasn’t as annoying because you knew most of these dudes were in the struggle before making it.

@imthewholetrilogy1501

14 күн бұрын

How did we know that? Because they said they was? There was many people faking the funk back in the 90s just like nowadays

@thuglifeinc4894

14 күн бұрын

Atleast they made you feel something. For better or for worse, I'd pick UGK or Mobb Deep over most

@Zack-vi7is

14 күн бұрын

They also wrote their own raps and had their own style. Now it's the same materialistic content but without any of the authenticity and far more homogenization sonically. Drake made it ok to bite styles and use writers. More and more of rap is becoming less about individual talent and more about marketability.

@chalkywhite2598

14 күн бұрын

Yeah that is bullshit

@hsdurfee

14 күн бұрын

@@chalkywhite2598 there’s entirely different levels to late 90s/early 2000s industry fuckery to the state of popular rap now. All you have to do is think about the type of people listening to rap at different times. The white nerd hip hop heads were not the same as the weirdo suburban kids who didn’t like rap before Drake came along. He was like Bizarrro world Eminem. Relatable to the struggle-free kids, without the polarizing lyrics, and he’s racially ambiguous enough to make them feel cool.

Will Smith being from West Philly does not surprise me at all. Did you see him beat the shit outta those robots?

@towelociraptor

14 күн бұрын

Yo this has too many levels lmao Will Smith beat up robots in i Robot before hitchbot got wrecked in Philly (which it deserved), then he played the title character in Hitch. How deep does it all go...

@cookingwithsilence

14 күн бұрын

@@towelociraptor That, Detective, is the right question. Program terminated.

@aandwdabest

14 күн бұрын

“In west Philadelphia born and raised” I went to Philadelphia just a few days ago, and it’s a very nice city.

@cookingwithsilence

14 күн бұрын

@@aandwdabest Philly fuckin rules.

@Tusskie

13 күн бұрын

Philly is lit

This channel is evolving into hardcore History: hip Hop Edition and I'm so here for it.

The cross promotion between you and FD is really working. Just subscribed to your page from his 😂

@mbalenhlebuthelezi3198

14 күн бұрын

Me too😂😂

@lnrdo

14 күн бұрын

Ended up here subscribing to bill because the algorithm started recommending these vids after I watched a few of FD's...so the opposite is working too 😂

@6dragondaddy913

6 сағат бұрын

I cross subbed over a year ago. I'm officially the white guy who was into it before it was big. 😂jk

This is not a one to one comparison but as a puerto rican woman I feel similarly about J-Lo. She for the most part doesn't claim us until it's time to get claps for wearing a flag on stage. Also the ashante thing, I knew she couldn't sing why embarrass us like that bro 😭 we got la lupe and marc anthony but now when people hear about Puerto rican preformers they're gonna think of the lady who can't sing for shit. Obviously with drake this is deeper, but considering the colonial history behind puerto rico I kinda get where the anger comes from. Or like in dork english class terms: this is my text to self connection (do kids still learn that in school?)

A lot of the Jay-Z hate comes from the fact that roc-a-fella defined a style of New York rap that waned in popularity in the streets the farther you moved away from Brooklyn and the more popular he became in the mainstream. Also, y'all need to stop playing with Kid n' Play's names. They've done more for the hip-hop culture than most rappers.

@jenesishunter9674

14 күн бұрын

Absolutely 😊

Never liked Drake even before the allegations because he seemed to carry an attitude that said “I’m just a nice guy surrounded by big bad mean people.” Basically my first encounter with the fake soft-boy type of dude. Edit- can a guy be a “pick me” for women? If so, maybe that’s Drake, or at least the image he attempts to put on. Edit edit: he’s if nothing else a “Nice Guy” in the worst way that can be read

@thuglifeinc4894

14 күн бұрын

Drake's music isn't outright terrible but it doesn't move me. Never felt honest. Even Wayne told 'em to be himself early on and he went on to do the opposite.

@NomadBulldog

14 күн бұрын

@@thuglifeinc4894 that’s pop music. Not bad, but not great.

@MsPhylie

14 күн бұрын

He's definitely NOT a pick- me for women, comes off more as incel/red pill 🤷🏾‍♀️

@NomadBulldog

14 күн бұрын

@@MsPhylie he’s not, he’s clearly a creep, but the persona he puts on feels like thats what he’s going for but missed.

@allbricc4dathicc

14 күн бұрын

Haven't seen the vid but he been villina ice

This Beef is hilarious. My compliments/condolences to the Editor trapped in the middle 😂

@goeienacht

13 күн бұрын

Editor was so taken aback by the stray that they messed up the custom title card 😭 5:56

FD & B beefing was not on bingo card for 2024😢 y’all both do great work 🔥

@Jerricobeats

14 күн бұрын

What happened lol

@TheMovies102

14 күн бұрын

​@@Jerricobeatsnothing it's a joke him and FD are actually friends behind the scenes and they share an editor... it started out because they both cover a similar topics and they often beat each other to the punch on topics that they want to cover so they throw a little shade at each other lol... so it's kind of like an inside joke between both sets of fan bases to catch the little sneak disses in each of their videos because it's all in good fun and Out of Love...❤

Lil Bill was grown in Y2K, in highschool in 2009, and also in highschool in the grunge rock era???? Are you 30 or 50 man?

@breezus3928

14 күн бұрын

"I am 30 or 40 years old and I do not need this" head ass 😂

@OfJournalandJourney

12 күн бұрын

We won’t get an actual answer 😂

You have this all wrong, the first Mafioso rapper was Kool G Rap, he was doing the cross references to drug lords & rapping about luxurious lifestyles in the late 80s, Raekwon brought those raps back in Wu-Tang, most prevalent on “Can It All Be So Simple” which then carried on to Only Built 4 Cuban Linx. AZ actually dropped the next mafioso rap album with Doe or Die & this is where Jay, Nas & Big changed their styles to be more mafioso because before this Jay was a more Das EFX, fast rapper type, Nas was like a street poet & Big was rapping like a grimy Brooklyn cat. Also you can’t leave out Pac’s influence on Bad Boy, the President of Bad Boy Kirk Burrowes & Diddy’s right hand man during that time is literally on record saying that Diddy used Pac’s style to influence Bad Boy. Big never wrote for Mase either, like NEVER. The truth is Mo Money Mo Problems was actually a record Mase wanted & he created the concept for it, wrote his verse & Puff/Diddy’s verse. Mase was even supposed to ghost write for Lil Cease but had Cam’ron do it so he can make some legal money & that’s where Big & Un met Cam & signed him to Undeas after he wrote the verses on Crush On You for Cease & the song became a hit. Big ain’t write for The Lox either.

@kalvisjatnieks7740

13 күн бұрын

damn i never knew he wrote cease verse on crush on you. good ass comment!

@deonlepharaoh

12 күн бұрын

I was gonna complain about that one detail but I'm glad you did...and went even further than I would have

@kelandj22

12 күн бұрын

@@deonlepharaoh Yeah this is vital information that has to be corrected. Also Reasonable Doubt didn’t sell like that & Jay’s albums weren’t considered Classic back then, his first album to be label a classic in real time was The Blueprint, Reasonable Doubt got labeled a classic later on & then the Black Album. But Vol 1 was considered trash, Vol 2 made him a superstar but it wasn’t considered a classic, Vol 3 confirmed he was a superstar & Dynasty stamped him. Blueprint put him in the GOAT convo.

@JawnLouis

12 күн бұрын

Once people decide they don’t like someone any negative stories become true. Jay,Dame Dash and Karem Biggs all had legit ties to the streets and started Rocafella with street money trying to leave that life after record labels said 26 Jay at the time was to old to break a new rapper Biggie and Jay also planned on making an album together once they both had enough time. I forget the full story but Biggie was supposed to shot the Brooklyns finest video but Puff stopped it for some reason over industry 💩 The whole Jayz and Biggie was never close and Jay stole his style is only something that started being said because he beefed with Nas and Camron

@Lexx1192

12 күн бұрын

@@JawnLouis💯 The Commission!

The fact that ja rule was looked at as more authentic than Luda and nelly was so crazy because if you saw where they were from you'd know better

@duhduhduhdiesel1436

14 күн бұрын

Snd belly? Is that YNW Melly evil lost twin?

@Fooacta

14 күн бұрын

@@duhduhduhdiesel1436 It is now

@RobJarrell63

14 күн бұрын

@duhduhduhdiesel1436 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣my bad, I'm in a losing battle with autocorrect and my keyboard

@thomasj674

13 күн бұрын

Nelly had us singing about street sweeping a block and had no idea 🤣

@Lexx1192

12 күн бұрын

@@thomasj674💯 I was JUST talking about this! Me thinking he’s just rapping about driving and smoking 🤣🤣🤣

Hated Drake since I was 16 and had to babysit my cousin while my aunt ran around and cheated on her husband and all she let me watch was the channel that played Degrassi reruns 😂 Edit: lol the editor Edit: oh wow I can’t wait to tell my mom JayZ is from her neighborhood 😅

@ZEHAHAHA9697

14 күн бұрын

Lmao @This comment plus the edits 😂

@tayc1312

14 күн бұрын

Jimmy getting got by Rick must’ve felt good 😭

@ajewishchristianmuslim

14 күн бұрын

@@tayc1312because jimmy … is ACTUALLY A RICK

@uprightaardvark

12 күн бұрын

WTF this gotta classify as horrendous levels of abuse. If you had said you were falsely imprisoned at Gitmo I'd believe it.

Idk what culture doesn’t regard Jay Z as the GOAT if not one of the GOAT rappers. Like that’s an insane statement to me.

@c4prez

12 күн бұрын

Yeah, I don't know where that takes comes from. The Hip Hop community doesn't even refer to him as Jay-Z they refer to him as Hov

LL Cool J should be shown a lot more respect.

For some reason I heard Jayfabe instead of kayfabe and I can’t get it out of my head.

excellent research, takes, editing, thank you Bill! FD: DROP DROP DROP!

Wow! I'm blown away by this and I'm definitely gonna have to watch (listen mostly, let's "keep it a buck") again to get all of it, but I just want to share a particular perspective as a white hip hop fan. I grew up in a conservative evangelical Christian household, where pretty much everything about mainstream hip hop (language, sex, drugs, violence, etc.) was absolutely off limits. I also had zero exposure to black culture because I was homeschooled in a small town in TN where I knew 1 black family who didn’t even have kids my age. Because of that, I was entirely unaware of black culture and black struggle. I knew about racism and slavery and we watched MLK Jr.'s 'I Have A Dream' speech every year, but I had no idea what the real world was like, especially for black people. I had no context for what hip hop was as a black art form. All I knew was the corny Christian rap I heard at youth group, and Hamilton. So when I grew up and moved away, I started to hear more music and develop my own taste, but I never got into hip hop cause I thought it just "wasn't my thing." I liked Hamilton cause I was a theater kid, but I didn't view that as hip hop. However, especially after Black Panther came out, I started hearing more and more about Kendrick Lamar and how great he was, that he won a Pulitzer prize, and that To Pimp A Butterfly was one of the greatest albums of all time. So I knew I needed to check him out eventually, but I was intimidated. Not only because it was a whole genre that I had no real knowledge of, but it was rooted in a culture that I had no real knowledge of either. So for years I put it off, until 2022, when Kendrick announced Mr. Morale and the whole internet lost their collective shit. I decided I would finally check out this Kendrick guy when his new album dropped. So, on May 13th, 2022, I listened to Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers, and I was blown away! I didn't have all of the context I do now, but I knew it was special. I felt Kendrick speaking to me and challenging me, as a person who should go to therapy, and as a white person who should really look inward at my inherent biases. I listened to everything Kendrick released, and then I continued to listen to everything I could possibly get my hands on, hip-hop-wise. I started reading more and seeking out perspectives that were different from mine and trying to understand as much as I possibly could. It's only been 2 years, and I still have a lot to learn, but my point in saying all of this is that Kendrick's honesty, humility, and empathy are what opened my eyes to an experience that I only ever had the chance to see through art. I understand my place as a white person in America, and I know that my opinion here is not the most important, but I do believe that hip hop and black art are extremely important for white people like me to see what society tries to hide from us, or worse, actively demonize, like it was for most of my life. I'm sorry for going on a whole thing making this about myself. I know I'm not the main character, I just wanted to share my experience and let you know that I'm here on the sidelines supporting you and using my privilege to the best of my ability to educate my white family and protect my biracial wife. I hope this doesn't come across as lame or corny or patronizing, but I told you where I came from, so I hope you can understand that I'm being 100% sincere. Thanks for all your hard work Billiam, can't wait for the next video!

@jenesishunter9674

14 күн бұрын

That was super Beautiful! I’m Proud of Ya King 👑 😊

@TheRedTailF22

13 күн бұрын

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

@jcmurie

13 күн бұрын

@jenesishunter9674 I'm glad somebody appreciates it. I was worried it was too self indulgent, but I just wanted to show that not all white lovers of black art see it as "poverty porn" but as an important (if not the most important) part of American culture

@TheCyledacosta

13 күн бұрын

​@@jcmurieI grew up as a black Christian and I felt disconnected from American black culture so I am happy for channels like FD significance and lil bill.

Let me get my shit off… Back in the day, Hip Hop was all about being real. If you weren’t "getting it how you’re living it," you were exposed and excommunicated (looking at you, female rapper Bo$$). Tupac reached the top because of his undeniable realness. Now, Hip Hop is 50 years old, but for the last 35 years, Black Americans have been groomed to accept less authentic, downright knock-offs in the culture. Stay with me. “A Chrysler 300 looks like a Phantom until a Phantom pulls up.” - Katt Williams Biggie rapped about sewing alligators on his shirts in school, and when asked to see the tag, he’d say, “See you later.” Authenticity was woven into the fabric of the culture until it started to soften in the late '80s and early '90s. Weaves were a joke until they became accepted. Knock-off fashion became more accessible and accepted because, I feel, the culture started to care more about the aesthetic than authenticity. Does it look good? Yeah, who cares? Enter music. The paradigm shift happened 23 years ago (to the day of my writing this) when Sean Combs announced, “Don’t worry if I write rhymes, I write checks.” P. Diddy shifted the narrative from art to commerce. It became all about the money. The conversation in every school cafeteria, ball court, and barbershop turned to, “But he got more money than him…” Do you see where I’m going? Enter a child born in Toronto, Canada (not exactly a Hip Hop hotbed), with zero buzz, who somehow manages to secure DJ Smalls, Trey Songz, and Lupe Fiasco. He releases a Hip Hop mixtape under his own banner, ‘All Things Fresh’ (later OVO. Let me cook: We should have known at All Things Fresh. Huh? The fuck. That shit lame as FUCK! We let that sawft baby shit label name skate!?). Where’s Kardinal Offishall? Where’s Choclair? Why cross the border to align yourself with American artists to break through? This is the genesis of Drake passing himself off as Black American and riding OUR wave into mainstream success. The audience loved the aesthetic and "vibe" of his non-threatening, lukewarm vocals and raps; they had been groomed for this moment for 30+ years. They didn’t question his authenticity; they signed up and consumed his offerings en masse. It looked good, sounded good, and he made all the money. The Nigga Trifecta. Drake rode Lupe’s wave of Kick Push out the gate. He rode Phonte’s flow, Ja Rule rose to superstardom singing hooks, rode Soulja Boy’s flow-line for line, bar for bar. He rode Weezy’s popularity and Future’s wave. What did Drake create? What wave did he generate? He isn’t organically producing; he’s been inauthentically swag surfin on the originators' waves to commercial success. (Interestingly, this is quietly why “purists” hate Jay-Z. He’s a capitalist more than an artist who rode waves.)

The ghostwriting exception and normalization the community/industry gave him is what made me anti-BBL Drizzy

@Jalenlane93

14 күн бұрын

Drake has written for people and people have written for him. Most songs have co writers.

@AngeBiampandou

14 күн бұрын

​@@Jalenlane93Yeah bc of hooks and samples. Drake got referenced tracks where he took EVERYTHING word for word, bar for bar and borrowed the flows and cadences

@Zack-vi7is

14 күн бұрын

​@@Jalenlane9320 years ago it was not acceptable to ever have anyone write your verses under any circumstance unless you were someone like Dre or Eazy E who offered something else of value. They always acknowledged it and it was always understood they could never claim to be the best rapper. If Drake was acknowledged as a pop artist rather than a rapper, if people didn't try to treat him as if he was one of the greatest rappers of all time, I don't think anyone would care that he has writers. But too many people refuse to disqualify him from the GOAT discussion despite clear proof he has writers. Objectively, he can't be the best rapper if he has writers. That shouldn't even be a debate. Yet he's always in the discussion.

@jenesishunter9674

14 күн бұрын

@@Zack-vi7is Clock ⏰ That Tea 🍵 😊

@chalkywhite2598

14 күн бұрын

How do you know he has a ghost writer?

I'm at work and I'm trying to watch the whole thing before it gets taken down

@travismathis3279

14 күн бұрын

Same! Lol

I can’t hear that Izzo drop, and not feel sad thinking about how talented of a producer Kanye really is/was.

You're really gonna sit here and say Jay invented Mafioso rap when Only Built For Cuban Linx is sitting right there??? When Junior MAFIA is literally sitting right there?!?!?!?

@lordjugga168

14 күн бұрын

Smh 🤦🏽‍♂️

@geminate3997

14 күн бұрын

Isn’t that the same era though?

@KrashyKharma

14 күн бұрын

@@geminate3997 Only Built For Cuban Linx and Junior Mafia's first album both predate Reasonable Doubt by a year, and Reasonable Doubt barely charted (none of its four singles were in the top 40, it didn't go platinum til 2002); Jay took longer for his career to take off, while Wu-Tang and Jr Mafia/BIG were already well established when these albums were released. Mafioso Rap was a movement started by Rae and Ghost and furthered by BIG Kim and Cease. Jay hopped on the trend quicker than most because of his proximity to BIG. He definitely did not *invent* it, he road the wave.

@thuglifeinc4894

14 күн бұрын

​@@KrashyKharmaGhost and Rae being the kings of saying abstract shit in the flyest way.

@KrashyKharma

14 күн бұрын

@@thuglifeinc4894 find me another mf that can make say a line like "ping-pong pussy" and have it sound hard as hell

Puffy did not create the Big Poppa persona. He stole it. The original artist's name is Big Daddy and he's from Mississippi. I don't usually comment. But you will actually research this fact and an interesting video may come from it. Thanks!

@rahbeeuh

14 күн бұрын

Never heard that before so I learnt sum'n new today

@gogan

13 күн бұрын

I suppose you've never heard of Heavy D, huh? Wouldn't you know Biggie never liked the song Juicy & didn't perform it until some audience's out of town damn near forced him to perform it. So, Big stole a song, the lyrics are all his. Where is the rest of dude from Mississippi's catalog?

Thank you for these video essays, Lil Bill.

Only Built 4 a Cuban Link is pretty much the grittier version of Mafioso Rap. Reasonable Doubt is definitely the Hollywood glamor of the Mafioso Rap It was written took the route. This shit almost like a cinematic universe lmaooo

As a white nonbinary central european person, who got intensly into rap and black culture through your and f.d., tee noire and other poc creators on youtube, its incredible how I learn so much about systems of opression, colonialism and culture commodification and human entoxication with the sedatives of status quo, that I can apply to my everyday life. I work as an arist, teacher and activist, your way of putting these ideas into words helps me immensly to spread the awareness of what is happeining all over the world, and as you said - new android every few months? we are a part of the problem, thank you for all your work ❤️

“Please don’t compare me to other rappers. Compare me to trappers. I’m more Frank Lucas than Ludacris. And Luda’s my dude, I ain’t tryna diss” ~ No Hook by Hov on the American Gangster album. He’s been telling us the whole time 😭

"Custom Title" 😂😂😂

@Winteramen

14 күн бұрын

Ngl, i did not know how much influence LL Cool J had on hip hop. I definitely knew him as an actor first

@Winteramen

14 күн бұрын

Thank you for your last statement. Yes, we as consumer need to recognize that many of the problems (in terms of our relationship with media) is our own doing, and we need to recognize, accept and allow ourselves to take back the power to control what the media can do to us, what kind of media is out there, and that we need to do better to control the reality rather than letting reality control us

Declaring for the editor

Oh, y'all just figuring out Kanye created Drake? Welcome 👋🏽👋🏽

@lilbilliam

14 күн бұрын

I didn't want to admit it 😭

@artpatron719

14 күн бұрын

@@lilbilliamdrake naturally did what wanye & ye wanted to do. Hold a note with limited auto tune… no mention of the cold crush brother but skipping to LL. No scholly d, steady b or hill top! Philly yo. this whole vid is some Yung 🥷 shit.

I can't there's already so much beef this year Edit unless it’s for jjk fans they’re catching all the smoke

Nelly was actually born in Austin,TX while his dad was in the military

@jenesishunter9674

14 күн бұрын

True 😊

LL Cool J is the template for the solo rap superstar. The first to be what the ladies wanted, perceived a dope/hard by peers and fans alike PLUS had the charisma to sell any product or push a hit to the top. Without LL you don’t get Cube, Pac, DMX, Ja, 50, Drake… they all come from his roots. By the way, he’s the original GOAT and the man who coined the term.

Hearing this about Jay-Z reminds me of that episode of Big Mouth where they talk about code-switching. One character was bashing anyone who code-switches and another character that code-switches calls her out for celebrating Jay-Z and throwing a party celebrating Blueprint's anniversary, and called him "the ultimate code-switcher". I thought he was talking about how Jay-Z acts around white people but now I'm thinking it was something deeper.

@mbalenhlebuthelezi3198

14 күн бұрын

The way I loved Jay z.. I'm sad I can't unsee all that we are now recognizing about him😢

@jenesishunter9674

14 күн бұрын

Who Cares! Hov is a Pioneer to Modern Hip - Hop along other Legendary MC’s & No amount of Windmilling & Crashing Out SJW’s is Ever Going to Change That! 🫡

The first Drake was that Eamonn guy, that guy that sang that whiny “I don’t want you back” song

@rahbeeuh

14 күн бұрын

OMGSH 😭🤣 Blast from the past for sure. You right! Maybe he was the first Drake 🤔 only he's a one maybe two hit wonder?

@gcopeland442

10 күн бұрын

I’m SO glad I’m not the only one who thinks this! I definitely was racking my brain thinking ‘Drake reminds me of somebody’… If that damned song isn’t everything Drake ever did, I don’t know what is 🤣

“Your single was 99 cents/Mine was 4 bucks” I don’t think Jay ever switched his persona because it was always about the money. And he actually has bars. Like Drake is objectively bad. If you liked that “like a sprained ankle I ain’t nothing to play wit” line. Hip-hop just ain’t for you sry

@kalvisjatnieks7740

13 күн бұрын

if u can't appreciate drake's pen on the timestamp records hip hop might not be for u either

@anthonys3892

12 күн бұрын

That’s what I’m saying, was there ever a time people thought Jay WASNT commercializing hip hop for his own gain? Seems like his whole persona lmao. Don’t think he ever switched up either until maybe 4:44

@jghifiversveiws8729

11 күн бұрын

To be fair Drake had actually slipped onstage and sprained his ankle a couple months prior to that verse so I mean he would know 🤷🏾‍♂️

there should be a South Park episode about the Kendrick vs Drake beef any minute now

You know, something I've realized is that 5% stuff was kinda the canary in the coal mine. Cause the NOI is openly, blatantly black in a way that, whether good or (I'd say) bad, the culture industry and capital does not like. You could list lots of legends from back then with ties: Rakim, Kane, Nas, LL Cool J, Wu-Tang, Busta, Jay-Z, you get it. But now there's uhh...Jay Electronica? That 5/95 bar in euphoria (edit: Meet The Grahams) is the first new reference to them I've heard in ages.

@Zack-vi7is

14 күн бұрын

5/95 bar was in meet the grahams. But yeah other than Jay Electronica (whose entire identity seems to revolve around the NOI and antisemitism) no one really references them. Despite Kendrick referencing them I don't even think he believes in any of that. His views don't seem to align with the NOI, especially as it relates to LGBTQ+ acceptance and race relations.

@WynnofThule

14 күн бұрын

@@Zack-vi7is I'm not a fan of them either. Black people then and now needed someone to tell them "you're the man" in one way or another, and NOI filled that niche. But plenty of other things could've probably done that a whole lot better, more inclusively and with greater room for nuance and diversity than them.

@KiraDaBeastNY

14 күн бұрын

@@Zack-vi7is Yeah Kendrick is the man who made his first full length project's intro track "Fuck Your Ethnicity". I dunno how you can think his views align with NOI or any of their relatives.

@WynnofThule

14 күн бұрын

@@KiraDaBeastNY Oh no, they definitely don't align at all. What I'm getting at is that you'd think they dropped off the face of the earth.

@whym6438

12 күн бұрын

As a Jewish guy, going back and listening to rap from the 80s and 90s is kind of a minefield.

Nas popularized mafioso rap with it was written and the firm; Nas was the FAR MORE popular rapper at the time. Also LL was "squeaky clean" but he was moreso connected to the local D Boy than most gangster rappers. In fact the most notorious one to come out of his borough.

It seems to me that whenever the core fan base is women, there's a concerted effort to get rid of said artist. That's the piece that's missing from some of these think-pieces. What seems to annoy most of the talking heads in hip hop is if women are involved/included. The gate keeping is evident but not talked about 🤷🏾‍♀️

@rahbeeuh

14 күн бұрын

I wish I spoke eloquently enough I'd for sure add that aspect! Maybe I should stick to writing instead 🤔 I definitely noticed the pattern. The change-up in their fan base is almost insidious in a way too. It bothers me

@Josue-mv2fo

11 күн бұрын

If I'm gonna blame something, is that the view of getting female fans is easier since you just have to "romance them" and therefore not hard, kinda like how some people assume female performers only have male fans cuz of sex appeal

@MsPhylie

11 күн бұрын

@Josue-mv2fo women have been sold a wooden nickel concerning 'romance'. It's part of the programming to have women all entangled in falsehoods about males. I enjoy music more as an art now because investing in entertainers has not proven to be fruitful. Many abused their influence but hopefully now the cream will rise to the top 🤷🏾‍♀️

Beef got the editor out here like J cole🤣🤣🤣

I Been Saying Jay Z Is Just A Rap Capitalist.

You're on the clock Fiq!!!

Holy shit bill dropped first.

Editor needs a raise, every exaggerated swagger has me in tears

crazy ass monologue at the end billiam, had me snapping at my tv 🫰🏾🫰🏾🫰🏾

LL Cool J’s album “Ten” was the e first album that was ever given to ME instead of something my parents happened to listen to that I also liked. Mad props on this

@idkwhtmynameis1993

14 күн бұрын

I asked for that album for Christmas in like 5th grade and got it🎉

god bless frank zappa

Thank for the algorithm pointed me to this video! Extremely well written and put together

As a Haitian hearing you say Basquiat as “bas kwee” hurt. Thank you for this lovely and sound analysis though!

20:13 As a white boy who, as a teenager, appreciated the more “authentic” street rap of the golden era (I was essentially a Queensbridge/Shaolin Stan), the thing that stood out to me when “Hard-Knock life” came out was that a whole bunch of younger white teenyboppers that wouldn’t give Capone-N-Noreaga the time of day all of a sudden loved rap music… as long as it was Jay-Z. He didn’t rap in that mysterious street dialect with strange terms and turn of phrase that you could maybe understand only if you did your research back in the 90s- he spoke about street life, but in ordinary language that basically anyone could understand. Or, to phrase it in an aphorism: Dealers listened to “Hell on Earth,”customers listened to “Hard Knock Life.”

You guys make me wish i paid more attention in school. Love it

Wow. Watched the whole vid and Im off to find the next one. Bravo. Subscribed. Where's the next vid?! LOL I need it!

“Art is supposed to challenge as well as entertain” I wholeheartedly agree! Great Video 👏🏾👏🏾

My issue with drake. When he first came out and was rapping with phonte elzhi and all that he was good didnt come off as a fronter etc but when he got with lil wayne young money and felt like it gave him some street cred that where he fuked up should of stayed on that backpack ish😂

Wait it was Ye?!!! It's interesting how you brought up the idea of people having OGs they learned from and Jay Z not having one to Jay being Ye's and because of their influence they allowed for Drake to happen

You ate it up with that outro………wait not Big Mama’s leg 😭😭😭

Honestly LL is more talented than Drake but Drake has the “racially ambiguous” look to be a mega star plus he’s not from America so he’s definitely more marketable to an international audience.

@jenesishunter9674

14 күн бұрын

Unfortunately 😅

You just got yourself a new subscriber after that Berleezy reference at 19:01 😂 Was not expecting that lol

Jay has seemed to always maintain that he did rap to get money. He at least came from an element. Dame even says that they got money in the streets. Everyone will not know everything about you especially when you are doing illegal things.

That bit at the end was something I haven't heard in a while, but needed to hear. Appreciate you, man

First time watching you and man this video was a whole ride, loved it. Thank you.

Damn bro you articulated so many stances I have so much better than I could have ever! I really appreciate your knowledge and perspective on hip hop

You were into hardcore and grunge back in the day?! That awesome man!

This video was amazing bruh I mean you always make good content but this one was legit really good the closing thoughts made me want to destroy my tv phone and computer

Amazing video man. You gained a subscriber in me. Your narration and historical break down was top notch. Keep up the the great work 👍🏿

“I got dirt on you doggy.” - Cam but directing it at jay 😂

@thuglifeinc4894

14 күн бұрын

Cam is a funny ass dude. His take on Bronny is something else

Thank you for your commentary on Kendrick! I’ve been having this conversation in my head the last few weeks the more I keep seeing people say “Kendrick makes music for white people” no he does not! But they gravitate to him because he provides a good picture of the black experience they can digest coupled with the belief that he is a “real rapper/artist” I think many of them still view hip hop music as bafooney deep down, but Kendrick gives them rap music they can break down.

@dia.6213

14 күн бұрын

@shylandethomas Maybe listening to music would be less complicated if it was segregated

@Zack-vi7is

14 күн бұрын

It's because Kendrick is able to present his views without the antagonistic approach toward white people that many black artists tend to use. Not to say I have that much of a problem with black artists referring to white people as "white devils" or "crackers" but naturally there's going to be white people who hear that and think "this person hates me". Kendrick has less of that antagonistic wording in his raps so white people feel more comfortable listening to what he has to say. But yes, he also makes it digestible as well. While still painting a vivid picture of his stories.

@shylandethomas7381

14 күн бұрын

@@Zack-vi7is ehhh not entirely true he calls out white people on TPAB, he calls out police brutality on GKMC, he says having sex with a white women felt like a fuck you for his ancestors on MMATBS (not worded exactly like that but you get the point).

@ArienDH11

14 күн бұрын

@@shylandethomas7381but even though I’m white, who am I to be mad about that? He has a very real reason to do and feel the way he does.

@shylandethomas7381

14 күн бұрын

@@ArienDH11 I don’t think you should be mad.

Found a new person to subscribe I love your content and approach!

I didn't like where it was going at first I can't lie I'm glad I watched the whole thing I like how you looped everything in at the end makes complete sense... Great 👍 Work .

YAYYYYYYYY NEW VIDEO 🎉🎉🎉

Lmao I remember the early eBay days

@SarahFletcher12

14 күн бұрын

The first time someone committed fraud with my debit card was with

this video is tough man. honestly this is some of the most well researched, passionate and meaningful content on youtube. thank you for all the work!

This is a very well thought through and presented show. I’m new to the channel and kudos to the SUBJECTIVE views. Gotta respect this.

A dude that is an amalgamation of dudes is who are amalgamations of dudes.. LL Cool J hat is like a sharks 🦈 fin.

I miss Dmx, may his soul rip.

Thanks for making this video. Much love

I’ve watched many of your videos. Always great journalism, lots of knowledge being dropped and lastly, one of the best senses of humor on KZread!!! So today I subscribed

5:59 u gotta graphic error i peeped hate to see it had to let you know

@Fooacta

14 күн бұрын

@@bonnetboys_ it's as much as Drake deserves

@ZEHAHAHA9697

14 күн бұрын

​@@Fooacta you ain't lying

@NolanJohnson423

14 күн бұрын

I thought it was a joke after the editor stuff

You did NOT just use the musical flashback cue from Arthur lol Also, the whole analysis and commentary is fabulous too btw, but i heard that Arthur and had to say something lol

You got me with that ad at the beginning! I thought you were going to make a broader point about Drake by alluding to the Ticketmaster scandal

Thanks for dropping this knowledge. I really enjoyed listening to your commentary.

Nah walking with a panther is pretty ok. I mean "I'm the type of guy" is hella funny. And big ole butt is lit.🤣🤣🤣🤣

How Jay Z gonna be a "colonizer" that's nonsensical 😂😂😂

@mauricewilson7116

9 күн бұрын

Yeah I agree. I get the premise of this video and how they crossed over and had mainstream success but all these dudes (LL, Jay-Z, Ja Rule, 50 Cent, even Wayne) cared about the culture and have an identity unlike Drake lol.

Beautiful and carefully reasoned essay. Excellent

I thoroughly enjoyed this video,I’ll definitely watch it a couple more times