I'm hoping the Final Shape has more horror elements to it, like Presage. Could you imagine the Witness has the Gardener suspended at the instant of death and suffering infinite pain all to force her to give it the Light, just like how the Cabal were left on the Glykon? Beyond cruelty, but incredibly fitting for the Witness.

@jamiebowler4693

Ай бұрын

That’d be cool but don’t get your hopes up

@yhelloh

Ай бұрын

The gardener… suspended… as in… lettinggo.

@Boulder7685

Ай бұрын

So… thoughts after the new launch trailer dropped lol?

@kyleespinoza7201

Ай бұрын

@@Boulder7685 incredibly pleased lol

That sound is…actually really unsettling. Props on the SFX team, yet again.

we see a similar burst of light at the end of the "journey into the traveler" trailer, followed by a distorted scene of the witness standing in front of a giant dark object

@equinoxruinouseffigy7856

Ай бұрын

not to mention that the witness is surrounded by waves of light, presumably from the peak of the monolyth

@MICROKNIGHT3000

Ай бұрын

Wtf where

@MICROKNIGHT3000

Ай бұрын

Oh right that. Yeah I saw it and noticed it too. The only footage of what looks like the top of the prison/monolith/coffin. I doubt it shows the real entity behind the Traveler though no way they include it in a video even if in a snapshot.

The light burst have the same sfx as when you link the nodes in ron so there might he a connection there

@thevoid3062

Ай бұрын

It’s darkness energy connecting with light. So it makes sense that the Witness trying to control the Traveler would make a similar noise.

@equinoxruinouseffigy7856

Ай бұрын

@@thevoid3062 great point

I think the bursts of light are the Witness's experiments trying to grant itself the light, every pulse is the Traveler's rejection, staving off the Witness as long as it can and attempting to signal whoever is in its heart to stop the Witness.

0:16 dude had an actual stroke

I hope the Gardner and the Winower show up at the end like in the end of the matrix 3

@souleater2978

Ай бұрын

Hell, I wouldn’t even mind, if the both of them found peace, ruling out the Winnower as a potential villain.

I also think that the Witness is torturing the Traveler's "core", and that exists an entity who is the "source" of the Light, maybe we'll finally see the mysterious woman that appeared in a beta version of the Destiny intro cinematic, that would be cool!

The moment I saw the light pulse from the monolith inside the traveler's pale heart I knew that the traveler was in pain and crying for help.

I had no clue the ghost could hear the traveler screaming that’s so cool

Just gotta apprechiate one thing. I found this channel with the big video of why the Witness isn't the Winnower, which I actually did say aswell. Your Videos always have quite the interesting theories and how you get to certain conclusions. Always nice to listen to and the editing is on point. Top notch

Thanks for the shoutout brother!

1:53 that’s nightmare fuel

Glad to see I wasn't the only one who thought that. The moment you the burst happened it sounded like a scream to me but mixed with the metal/mechanical screeching

The mission was pretty sick, it just seemed way too short. Like i was like ouuuu D1 oh wait its over

Good video, would be interesting if true. I hope we maybe get to see the speaker in some capacity as well with a variation of his mask returning. MY fav part of the video was at 2:23 when you used blade barrage on four red bar dreg

you're my favorite channel for theories bar none

I noticed the light burst sounded like a mix of Ahsa/ a supernatural mystical being/ and a night wisp

i hope its like, aww shit we failed.... Oh we failed again? damn we suck.... Oh we failed again, that sucks. Then slowly we manage to finaly not fail.

I mean the cutscene from Deep explaining the Final Shape looked pretty dark…

The light cannot be taken is a myth.

What about ghaul and the light? How do we understand whether it was given or taken?

@Venextron

Ай бұрын

I was thinking that too. When Ghaul first took the Light, it seemed to be corrupted to some extent, especially with how he was screaming from it. However him dying and being reborn as a being of Light is something we've never seen before. Regarding the Witness I don't think it just needs Light, it needs control over all of it, which puts what Ghaul did out of the question. At the same time due to how the Witness was made, it dying and becoming a being of Light is also not an option. As for the whole "taking the Light" question, it is still confusing what Ghaul did, but that's the best I can try and explain it.

@meanerminnermina7333

Ай бұрын

@@Venextron Do you think Ghaul’s Light being corrupted has something to do with the Traveller not wanting him to have access to the Light? He definitely seemed to be in pain whenever he’d use or forcibly access the Light at the end of D2 Vanilla. Maybe that’s why he was screaming. The Light has some connection to life after death - we see it with guardians all the time. The Light is tied to growth and revival/resurrection. Normally this happens through a Ghost or the Traveller releasing a pulse or beam of Light (like the growth we see in the Pyramid Ship during that Lightfall cutscene and RoN raid). However, Ghaul obtained the Light by neither of these methods, that could be how his Light is corrupted. I would say that the Light itself is then inherently deathless - it cannot be completely killed, annihilated, or destroyed. So all that Light that Ghaul siphoned from the Traveller had to go somewhere when his physical body died. What we see is Ghaul’s consciousness made physically manifest as the Light he took. Specifically, the exact quantity of Light which he siphoned out of the Traveller. In the cutscene it is flowing and dripping, almost like liquid. The visual style makes the Light seem like a powerful, life-giving elixir of sorts. The Traveller seemed to immediately react to Ghaul’s new form, like it did with Rhulk and the Ghost. We know the Traveller hates when its gifts are misused - how it left the Pyramid/Witness race when they began experimenting with the Darkness, how it punished Rhulk for attempting to claim a Ghost. The Traveller, as if to say “This one is not for you!” released a massive pulse of light, annihilating Ghaul’s consciousness and taking back the Light which he attempted to claim. We can infer a few things from this. The Traveller does retain at least some control over who does and doesn’t have access to the Light. The Light is a physical force that can manifest in physical forms (we’ve known this as long as we knew that the Darkness was about consciousness and immaterial things of the mind). The Light rejected staying with Ghaul after death (he was not worthy). The Traveller did not want Ghaul to have the Light and so it took the Light back by force (just like he took the Light by force himself) - so we can assume that every Lightbearer who hasn’t spontaneously self-destructed is chosen/worthy - somehow, even the Hive. So maybe when we say the Light can’t be taken, Ghaul isn’t actually an exception to that. He tried taking the Light and didn’t get very far. It was a failed attempt, as the Speaker would say “The Light will find its way.” The Traveller did not allow Ghaul to keep the Light - what he had could be described as a hollow, corrupted mimicry of the Light - not the true Light itself as the Traveller would truly provide to those chosen. After reading your comment and rewatching the cutscenes and Ghaul fight that’s the best I could come up with. Hope it’s not too much to read through. Your videos are awesome by the way.

@simonwahlen7150

Ай бұрын

@@meanerminnermina7333 The most similar event to Ghaul taking the light I think is Golgoroth in kingsfall weaving coccons and storing captured light. This similarily blows up in Oryx face literally as that light once out of Golgoroths controll is then used as the bombs that stun and weaken Oryx enough for us to kill him. Second probably is Savathun melting down/disintigrating guardians in void energy to harvest void light. It seems like pure multipurpose light is almost impossible to steal but the more degraded/specialised and causal it becomes the easier it becomes. Sure you can't steal a hunters light and use his super as your own but you can reflect it with anteus wards as a titan when it becomes a physical object subject to physical laws. Similarly corrupted light or void light harvested and used isn't truely taken controll over but more redirected or reflected into a usefull form. So that it according to the laws of physics it has already bound itself to has to follow a pattern that can be used by someone that doesn't own that light.

I love these videos

Am I the only one who noticed the smoke/monolith literally looks like The Witness? Like uncomfortably similar.. 🤨

@MICROKNIGHT3000

Ай бұрын

I noticed too

Welp, time to save Rapunzel

I don't think the Witness has the power to hold the Gardener captured since, in my interpretation, the Gardener is an incorporal being capable of creating universes and would be more powerful than the Witness. I think it's the Traveler that's under the Witness thumb.

Why would they have a statue of the Gardner in the pyramid

glad im not the only one who noticed this lol

are you the VA for that guy who gives aloy her new clothes/armour in horizon zero dawn? your voices sound rlly similar

@Venextron

Ай бұрын

I am not! XD

@KAMI__KITSUNEE

Ай бұрын

@@Venextron haha gotcha, had to ask 😅

Isn't this said about every expansion, and it's not.

All I can say about the mission is that i didnt have to die 3 times like the first time 🙄

This mf spittin

@sidelviajero

Ай бұрын

Ain’t he tho!? 😅🤭

your voice is so ASMRy, i literally dozed off for a min

@MICROKNIGHT3000

Ай бұрын

Wowow calm your hormones

Nah destiny bunch of snowflakes now they not gonna do that

@angelgortari3742

Ай бұрын

🏴‍☠️