I can never get over a realization I had about these cutscenes. Zenos had no clue where the WoL was. He knew they were in Ultima Thul but wouldn't have known what was happening there. So he presumably shows up at Ultima Thul, sees a massive orb or something, assumes the WoL is in there and proceeds to dragon headbutt it over and over til it breaks. He's a refreshingly simple man at times.

@SagittariusAyy

Жыл бұрын

OH FUCK, YOU’RE RIGHT That is *FUNNY*

@tibowmew

Жыл бұрын

I read this and immediately died laughing 🤣

@DiWolfe

Жыл бұрын

Get you a man like Zenos. With insane determination and fabulous hair

@cmoney3163

Жыл бұрын

I mean if you're looking for someone aren't you going to start in the most conspicuous place?

@DigitalCoffee08

10 ай бұрын

OH MY GOD I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT 😂 How the fuck did he find us? The coordinates were with the Ragnarok! And the universe isn’t exactly something small.

Zenos is, in the most twisted way possible, the Antithesis of the Endsinger. A man who has known nothing but banality through his entire life, who knows it will end with him either dying in battle or unfulfilled, and yet at no point does he despair. He lives through every seemingly pointless day for those tiny, tiny sparks of joy in the battles that push him to his limit. At the end of everything, he is satisfied. His life was nothing but a few bright moments of bliss, and that made it worth it.

@omensoffate

2 жыл бұрын

No he is the strongest that isn’t the wol. He has gone through some shit but kept driving through.

@Poromies90

2 жыл бұрын

Zenos' part hit deep. He says so many things someone with depression or absolute nihilistic thoughts might be asking himself.

@MortalSora

2 жыл бұрын

And this is another reason that I still say that Zenos is actually a deeper character than people realize. Sure, he isn't the deepest and he's very clearly an antagonist (which is something I like in this game after so many villains being rather gray, it's a reason I always thought Zenos is so fun) but there's still more to him than so many people realize and I am so damn happy with what EW did with him

@ruggedlemmings9163

2 жыл бұрын

Zenos isn't the antithesis of Meteion...the WoL is. Remember back in SB when Fordola's echo pings off the WoL's mind and she's brought to her knees because she can't understand how one person could go through much hardship and yet still keep pressing on? The WoL has been through a LOT. Countless times throughout the journey there was cause to give in to despair, and yet the WoL remained the resolute rock for the Scions to cling to through the darkest times. "A Beacon of Light for others to follow." Where Meteion walks within an aura of darkness and despair, the WoL walks within an aura of light and hope. That's the significance of the flower field at the end: the indomitable hope that the WoL brings and represents overpowers the bottomless despair that Meteion brings and represents. The WoL could have thought of anything to reach the nest. Another set of stairs, a ladder, a teleporter, hell even a rope. Instead they created a field of hope flowers. :3 Zenos never really had any reason to despair. Dude was bored out of his mind, but the only thing that really concerned him was the fact that the WoL didn't think he was worth the time of day anymore since he had already been defeated. His response: "well if I help the WoL take out whatever's out there then there won't be anyone left to fight but me!" Cue up the MGS4 fist fight finale!

@GrahamChapman

2 жыл бұрын

@@MortalSora I think you're mixing up the terms "villain" and "antagonist"... So, for correction's sake: Zenos was very clearly a villain (which is something I like in this game after so many antagonists being rather gray).

Soken's mission in this expansion was: "Rip their hearts apart, let them bleed, and then fill it with gentle hope. Later."

@ItsSauIGoodman

2 жыл бұрын

You mean yoshi p AND soken

@ItsSauIGoodman

2 жыл бұрын

@@restfulori212 you're right. Thanks for that

@Nirual86

2 жыл бұрын

as opposed to every other expansion? More like "do it again but go even harder this time"

@dale7326

2 жыл бұрын

7.0 villains gonna be good

@SparkShadow212

2 жыл бұрын

@@crunchyfrog917 Apparently a lot of people.

Everyone: Avengers: End Game was the best ending of a story ten years in the making. Natsuko Ishikawa: Hold my Shadowbringer standing ovations.

@curtishansenmusic

2 жыл бұрын

This is why gaming is my favourite medium. I cried like a baby at Infinity War and Endgame, but nothing can compare with having actually DONE this whole journey, with the characters and with all the friends I've made these past eight years. No story has ever meant so much to me.

@VDA19

2 жыл бұрын

@@curtishansenmusic Nothing compares with actually 'living' through the story alongside characters.

@Tigerblade11238

2 жыл бұрын

End game was never my favorite anything. Endwalker is Legen...wait for it... DARY!

@nickharding4454

3 ай бұрын

As someone who deeply loves both franchises, I found myself comparing these 2 endings as well. Two me, nothing else in creation even holds a candle. It's even better if you start a new character and play the whole story through (obviously takes a couple months), but man that ending had me in tears multiple times. I only came to this video so because I had a desire to see if other people reacted the same way. I found myself getting chills just skipping through this video and watching the guys reaction.

Honestly, The Walk hurts more when you realize that it's the last time you'll hear Edmont's OG VA since he passed away shortly before Endwalker launched. This is the last piece of audio we'll ever hear from him. The next time we hear him, it'll be another VA. Everything about that part is feelsworthy in its own right, but that knowledge just adds another punch to that scene from a real life perspective.

@omensoffate

2 жыл бұрын

Eh life moves on

@AMDeZani

2 жыл бұрын

The development team hold the English version of the game in just as high a regard as the Japanese one, so it is fully possible that they relegate Count Edmont to non-voiced roles so they don’t have to replace his voice actor

@zerothelightbringer8874

2 жыл бұрын

@@omensoffate You seem like a fun person. I hope you think the same when someone you care for passes away "Eh live moves on". Don't be a twat

@TheJamieellis

2 жыл бұрын

@@omensoffate Ooh, you're edgy.

@FF-tp7qs

2 жыл бұрын

Play new game plus, then hear him all over again

"But why does it still live? Surely it is no match for you" The delivery and content of this one line added the Z axis to the 2D caricature of Zenos, a challenge very few writers could pull off this late into a grand story arc. Bravo.

@aftermarkgaming

2 жыл бұрын

Zenos believed in us more than anyone else, save maybe Venat.

@anexplosion5436

2 жыл бұрын

The best part about it for me is that It's not even encouragement, it's genuine confusion. He's not cheering you on, he's wondering why you haven't done the inevitable and won yet.

@saintgeekSG

2 жыл бұрын

@@aftermarkgaming Nah, even venat didn't believe in us as much as zenos. Venat had to give one last challenge to see if we were really worthy, meanwhile zenos didn't even think about whether or not we were worthy to begin with. There was no trace of doubt in his "ayoooooo why''s this thing not dead bro?"

@Arrusoh

2 жыл бұрын

I actually don't think the Endsinger is all that strong. Just what it is able to do made it almost impossible to actually fight since it can destroy souls. There is a chance that a previous enemy was actually stronger. And that might be why Zenos said that. It's impossible to tell if that's true or not

@whythefuckdowehavethisherenow

2 жыл бұрын

@@Arrusoh Ya'll reading too much into the literalness of it. It's an eastern story and the very foundation of most of their stories is literally willpower, not contrivances. It's a central tenet of pretty much every JRPG in existence.

JC, before starting EW: I want a badass version of Maker's Ruin. Not a sad one, but a rocking one. Soken: Say no more, fam. Enjoy your own boss theme.

@ninboy01

2 жыл бұрын

Maker’s Ruin? Check. Riding a dragon? Check. Punching the final boss in the face? Check. Looks like we got the triple.

@filthycasual8093

2 жыл бұрын

@@ninboy01 and the song of hope!

@1337penguinman

Ай бұрын

What other game gives the player their own boss theme?

Seeing a Lalafel punching Zenos is just as glorious as I imagined it would be.

@thormunable

2 жыл бұрын

now picture a lala in a dress and it what i got in the end

@DerramLeftmast

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, as much as people meme about it, I think they did a dang good job of making it look good, given how much the proportions just don't work naturally.

@rexex345

2 жыл бұрын

@@DerramLeftmast they did mention in an interview that they actually made versions of the cutscene for every race so that things matched up proportionally regardless of height.

@PurpleAlzir

2 жыл бұрын

@@rexex345 I saw a friend do the end as femroe and it just looked like Zenos was punching their boobs.

@ElbyHere

2 жыл бұрын

As a Lalafel player myself, I absolutely lost my shit when I saw it. I was in a call with three friends who were beating the game at the same time with me, and since I was the first to beat the Zenos fight, when I burst out laughing I had to just be like "uh... don't worry about it, let's just say it's great being a Lalafel."

I love the fact that Endwalker was so Final Fantasy that Jesse could predict all the hype moments of the ending lol

@DanTalksGames

2 жыл бұрын

This ending was TAILOR MADE for Jesse.

@calamaty2007

2 жыл бұрын

My favorite description of Endwalker is that "for better or worse this is the most Final Fantasy Final Fantasy"

@shinobirecords2018

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely for better

@FragariaNoKami777

2 жыл бұрын

I was watching the predictions section and laughing my ass off. Then i cried during the walk of memories

@batosai85

Жыл бұрын

Just my opinion, but I think he saw spoilers to b honest

I'm still SO ANGRY that what has to be one of the most romantic lines in FFXIV was spoken to us by Zenos of all people-"And hungry still for our reunion, I rode the light of the stars to you". I beat my desktop and was like "OH F*CK OFF". 🤣

@kiriuxeosa8716

Жыл бұрын

Need some romance zenos options

On your "We never answer for Venat and Hydaelyn question" the boss theme for the mother crystal is "Your answer". By opposing and defeating Hydaelyn, you're saying "Yes, and I'd do anything to protect it"

@ghijunz

2 жыл бұрын

Ah I see, I was curious as we never did get to answer Venat / Hydaelyn directly if I recall correctly, thanks.

@NebulonRanger

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's a classic case of a non-verbal answer expressed through mood and storytelling.

The fact Jesse saw the zenos line for the pure "devs calling out the players" line that it was and responding in the BEST way made me SO happy. WE CANNOT DENY IT. REJOICE IN THE GLORY OF COMBAT.

@FragariaNoKami777

2 жыл бұрын

REJOICE There is no other dialogue option and i refuse to register that there were other options

@Matias-zh3dp

2 жыл бұрын

@@FragariaNoKami777 I chose the second option. The first one is just too edgy and inconsistent with the MC imo. But we are talking about FFXIV players here so, its understandable most picked the first option.

@FragariaNoKami777

2 жыл бұрын

@@Matias-zh3dp honestly valid in all the ways, though im not kidding i forgot the other dialogue options ^^;

@roetheboat1

2 жыл бұрын

I find it interesting that the smirk that our WoL gives when saying "That I cannot deny" is the same smirk that Zenos has when he possesses our body.

@dylanpereira7848

2 жыл бұрын

@@Matias-zh3dp Its a valid point, but lets not forget that in the very beginning in ARR, when you begin your character, the man in the carriage asks you what it is you seek, and im pretty sure the options present (the ones our character could come up with) were something along the lines of to gain power, to amass a fortune, or to gain glory. Our duty to our friends and to the world as the WoL is something we grew into because we had to, but from the very beginning, we had the heart of an adventurer, seeking power, fortune, or fame, and its what led us to our path to begin with. I like that Zenos and Alphinaud call us "Adventurer" at the very end, its quite a nice nod to our origins, and our future :D

I know it's not the focus of the whole thing, but I LOVE Livingway walking in "Oh, those were cries of celebration!" Just _fully_ expecting to interrupt a funeral.

@Alissandre_Iskander

2 ай бұрын

Late, but yeah... I cracked up here. She was basically like "Oh good, you’re alive! ... Anyway..."

I think the final scenes with Zenos are amazing; I know some people dislike his very cliche motives but it's done in a way that he feels like the most relatable incarnation of the crazy, omnicidal maniac villain I have seen in a while. A dark reflection of the real life player, and after being a crazy monster of a man, at the end dies as close to being human as he has ever been, content with his one-sided friend living on.

@Maria_Erias

2 жыл бұрын

Zenos is a man whose life was filled with banality. The only thing that ever gave him meaning, the only moments he ever had where he truly lived, was facing the Warrior of Light. And he believed that the Warrior of Light felt the same, that despite all the quests, all the pleas for aid, all the people that needed help, the Warrior of Light did what they did because they *enjoyed it.* And so Zenos, finally realizing what it all meant, ate the Mothercrystal, went Super Saiyan, and flew across the Universe just to share the one thing he had with the Warrior of Light: the moments that gave him life. Zenos really was our best friend.

@MaindexOmega

2 жыл бұрын

@@Maria_Erias That is exactly why i like him so much. Because he's right. I've never felt so alive except when fighting him

@Keira_Blackstone

Жыл бұрын

@@Maria_Erias I'll say to you what I said to Zero- Whatever Zenos may have said, I wasn't his friend. His motives were never anything but selfish. He wanted the fight and was willing to do whatever it took in order to get it. He never actually cared about you as a person in any meaningful way- only as his own twisted reflection.

@Vinclum

Жыл бұрын

They final answer you can give him, no one is getting the point that he wasnt talking to you as the WoL but as the player directly, seeking ever harder content to beat. Thats why the only right answer is : "That, I can't deny."

@shblade5984

Жыл бұрын

@@Vinclum even for my DRK WoL it's completely true

So the Scions are now a secret organization run out of a garment shop? We Kingsmen now!

This is gonna sound maybe a bit weird, but out of all the voicelines you hear during the literal End Walk, Midgardsormr got me the most. I'm not even sure why but it just means so much that even that huge, old serpent believes in me.

@SMNtheNight

2 жыл бұрын

It hits kinda hard after learning more about the fate of his home and his people. As if we needed to feel any more empathy for dragons after Heavensward, then this happens.

@merabledawnspark5827

2 жыл бұрын

The thing that hit me were Ardbert and Haurchefant. I love the knight and what he did to save me while Ardbert was someone that accompanied me in the First.

@Hwyadylaw

2 жыл бұрын

He is one of the most venerable and wise characters you encounter. He has seen much

@Krescentwolf

2 жыл бұрын

Sormr putting his faith in us is alot bigger than people may realize. We're talking about a super-jacked super-dragon who witnessed the end of his people, took the long and VERY harsh journey through the stars (so harsh it drained him of most of his power) to plant his few remaining eggs on a planet where the people wont get along with his kind. He watches his people and the natives clash and spill each others blood, and even gets involved himself with the Agrias event at Silver Tear Lake. By this point he's pretty much done with 'mere mortals.' He's old, he's tired, and he's generally pissed off. He's Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino. "Get off my lawn!" But we win his trust, slowly, but surely, he watches us work peace between people and dragons. And eventually he likes us enough that he basically sacrificed himself for US, the way he sacrificed his body for Hydaelyn in keeping the Garleans away from Silver Tear. Hearing his "Thou art strong, mortal." is like a galactic sized stamp of approval.

@LuchaLLibro

2 жыл бұрын

@@Krescentwolf Vrtra says at one point that Midgardsormr was always a creature of few words; that his silence could often be taken as tacit approval, especially since it is so laborious for him to speak while he recuperates. So for his voice to join the chorus at the end of everything in explicit support for your triumph, for a being of such immense power to venerate your own, is a monumental thing indeed.

I love that everyone's innkeeper from the 3 main cities were part of the people watching for the cities at the end. Everyone, I think, has good memories of when they first arrived in their respective cities

@HereticalHorus

2 жыл бұрын

I was so happy to see Momodi waiting for me. I started as a Gladiator, I ended as a Paladin. It felt so right

@Keira_Blackstone

2 жыл бұрын

The impact of Endwalker is huge if you started in Limsa in my opinion. You start your journey on a boat into Limsa Lominsa, and begin the final leg of your journey by sailing out of the same port.

@Gatescholar

2 жыл бұрын

I felt really happy to see them all because I have other alts that I'd started right after I finished Shadowbringers and before Endwalker dropped so I managed to get that experience in with all three innkeepers and I cried when they were there to welcome me home ;-;

@PogausorusRex

2 жыл бұрын

Omg I hadn't even noticed the first time O_O That is so cool!

@lPsychoMax

2 жыл бұрын

I even logged off after endwalker in the same Inn I started at. As if the adventure ended where it began, waiting for the next expansion.

JC: "I am going to kick the shit out of you when we're done." Zenos: "Hah! Music to mine ears~!"

Really happy that Jesse was able to get his wish of both riding on a dragon's back and getting to punch something with so much hype. The fact that both things happened when Lil JC was with Zenos is just amazing. Zenos literally carried that fight. I definitely subscribe to the fan theory of his final wish given form by dynamis enabled Lil JC to return to his friends.

@99range92def

2 жыл бұрын

After allisae scolded him saying if you only care about you want you will never get what you're after, he really seemed to reflect on that statement.

@specialnewb9821

2 жыл бұрын

It may be a fan theory but some strong in game suggestions for it too

@harryunderwood9387

2 жыл бұрын

I doubt he directly did it, but his words evoked an honest response in us that seemed to encourage the tele pad to form, since everyone seemed to not know when we'd return. It's possible he did formed it himself, but that's something only he will know for sure. Oh wow, I just realised that's something he can hold over our heads for the rest of our lives. In the end, he won...

@selectioncrescimento

2 жыл бұрын

Is your avatar really the Yuna guns from record keeper, i love that lmao

@reyennarhel2505

2 жыл бұрын

It's actually not just a fan theory - Urianger specifically says in the Waking Sands after everything that he suspects Zenos used the last of his Dynamis to give you safe return.

Katsumi Kajiro out here, probably the best streamer stalker in the FF community ever. A funny bit, character development, logical progression, and an emotional ending? It's got it all.

@dale7326

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of fourth wall breaking in EW actually. From Zenos and Fandaniel to Alisae and Alphi

@connormills3739

2 жыл бұрын

@@dale7326 who are you talking to

Emet: "There's places in Eorzea you haven't been to yet." WoL: "Nah, I'm going back to Elpis, let's see what Lahabrea and Elidibus were like."

@FragariaNoKami777

2 жыл бұрын

This

@WittyCorvian

2 жыл бұрын

What about Igeyhorm and Nabriales

@NebulonRanger

2 жыл бұрын

@@WittyCorvian Unless they appear in Pandaemonium, we'll probably never know. Lahabread is likely to appear in the third turn, if not the second, because he's the Hermes of Pandaemonium--it's his facility.

@ich3730

2 жыл бұрын

@@WittyCorvian you mean the arr filler spooks? xD

@draochvar9646

Ай бұрын

​@@ich3730 to be fair, Igeyhorm is ALSO the one to blame for what happened to the 13th, so she does have some relevance to the wider story.

Last summer i gave this game another go after seeing Jesse have so much fun with it. I tryed it multiple times before and never could get in to it, but this time I went in for the Story and can say no game or other media made me cry so many times . And even after going through Endwalker and crying along the way i still cry again when watching this video. For me this is the best RPG ever and i cant thank jesse enough for getting me to play it. Love you Mr.Cox and keep being awesome

@sirflimflam

2 жыл бұрын

Oh hey it's another me. I tried at 3 different times to get into this game. Once in 2013 when it first launched, again a few years later, and again a few years from then. Watched Jesse in Shadowbringers thinking to myself I didn't really care about spoilers since I was never gonna play again, and lo and behold he reignited a passion in it, and I started anew, focusing on the story instead of the gameplay this time around, and made it to the end. Fortunately the spoilery bits I did see were pretty disjointed and didn't really spoil as much as I thought they would despite being pretty spoilery areas.

@tenken1986

2 жыл бұрын

Yea to this day I still only sub for launch of xpac and each story patch and that's about all I play because the story is everything.

@Telris86

2 жыл бұрын

@@tenken1986 And that's exactly what the developers encourage. If you just want to be there for the story and nothing else that's fine with them. They stated multiple times that you should feel free to unsub and return whenever you want to to enjoy new patches. In a way the game is partially designed for playing it like this.

@lj_aderyn

2 жыл бұрын

I'm happy for everyone here that found happiness playing this game, I just hope Zenos' character resonated with you in some way at least. Zenos is written to be a reflection of an MMO gamer, always looking for the next challenge to fill the void, and he resonated well with me for that reason. I always worry people who don't play for the side content, and only play for the story, won't see the beauty of Zenos' character. Though, perhaps in a way, that in itself is brilliant, Zenos is a character who can't possibly resonate with everyone, and that's why that last dialogue option before your battle has the different tones depending on your answer.

@sirflimflam

2 жыл бұрын

@@lj_aderyn It took me until literally the very very end for me to understand his character. He got me right at the end.

Zenos literally had more faith in us than ANYONE - I can't hate that! xD

My dude, Metion, she is an empath on steroids, By making physical contact she could see your thoughts, it was hammered home during the Elpis arc. It's why her concept was sent out amongst the stars, she didn't need to speak their languages because she could understand and be understood by everyone and feel their experiences.

In a weird twisted way, you weren't just Zenos's only friend...you were the only person, the only *thing* he ever loved.

@leonarduskrisna4588

Жыл бұрын

The Twisted Mentally F*ck actually i loved lmao

@Gsolaris

2 ай бұрын

Zenos was a yandere. 😂

THE SMILE WHEN SHINRYU CAME FROM OUTSIDE IS SO GOOD when I got to the part where we ride on Shinryu/Zenos, I was SUPER looking forward to your reaction because you wanted to ride a dragon SO BADLY and I cheered for you dskgjhf the "I got to ride my dragon" made ME tear up

@cnkclark

2 жыл бұрын

We can honestly say that Zenos totally carried us through the whole final Trial.

@ich3730

2 жыл бұрын

wished they included him in the fight. instead of being a skybox.

38:26 i love this moment. Even I was like "ok...you get *one* duel when we're done here. You've earned it."

@Keira_Blackstone

Жыл бұрын

he triggered the end of the world in a mad scheme to get you to fight him. Then he helped you fix the problem he caused- not out of any desire to undo his wrongs, but only because he still wanted to fight you. Rewarding him with that fight after what he did felt really icky to my WoL, but they knew they couldn't just let him walk away.

@Koranthus

7 ай бұрын

@@Keira_Blackstone Technically, he didn't trigger the end of the world, Fandaniel did, an end that was coming one way or another. Also, we don't even know that he wanted the end of the world so much as eating zodiark and hydaelyn to power up to fight us.

This *destroyed* me when I went through it. And yet I'm left standing and apluadding

Considering Zenos' form change, I guess you could say... JESSE PUNCHED THAT DRAGON IN THE FACE!

@SirBuljo

Жыл бұрын

Oh my god.. right back to cata badlands by memories went.

Leave it to Jesse to show the you're not alone segment the proper respect it deserves, seeing so many other streamers just run past and rush it.

I love that emet just keeps rambling off future expansion ideas

@SilvarusLupus

2 жыл бұрын

It's basically the voice of the devs being like "oh you thought we had no more arcs after this?" Personality in want to know the true identities of the 12

Still amazed Jesse was entirely correct in his predictions, never underestimate the Cox when guessing story beats. Thanks Jesse for the grand journey!

@ericbright1742

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not going to call it "entirely correct", but I will give it "close enough for full points".

@jasonbrothwell5477

2 жыл бұрын

He's played Every single Final Fantasy game and FF14 is a Final Fantasy game so guessing the Last boss is pretty consistent with his theory .. I also predicted the same scenario

@Edzter

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonbrothwell5477 Not only that. But the entire game is rather predictable. Even in shb. The only part that I was unsure of was the portion between the moon and what will be the ending. And it didn't take long for that to come together either. At that point it's just in which order things will come.

@Umbrellify

2 жыл бұрын

@@Edzter i think the game makes the story 'just predictable enough' where everything make sense and you're waiting for what you expect to happen. but still feel a good amount of doubt. it all feels very predictable looking back, but in the moment, most people are still lead down other paths. like for this expo, there's still moments where you're thinking 'hydaelyn is malevolent somehow' or 'maybe our time in elpis could change something in the future'. also they always weave in just enough of a 'new entity' that's kinda hard to predict. like the ancient involvement + reveal of how rejoinings work in shb/enw, or zenos' actions in shb

@k.vn.k

2 жыл бұрын

Following the story closely it shouldn’t be too hard to recognise the path it leads to for the game is designed to be completely sensible. It still has a few unexpected moments but not entirely unsurprising.

Emet and Hythlo will never stop being Waldorf and Statler for me.

@ackbarreserve

2 жыл бұрын

"crotchety old men that have been friends for a lifetime act fabulously and acridly" is a masterful trope

@ericbright1742

2 жыл бұрын

They have the energy where Hythlodaeus would suggest to Hades that they do "Get Help", Hades would be adamantly against it, right up until when the doors open and Hythlodaeus comes out, holding a limp Hades, begging for someone to help his best friend... ...and then Hades throws Hythlodaeus into them. And Hades still hates it.

@sethair

2 жыл бұрын

@Eric Bright Azem would be the one in the group to throw hades around. Hythlo would just be off to the side, crying the loudest to get the attention of the targets.

@ericbright1742

2 жыл бұрын

@@sethair If it were Hades and Azem, yes, Azem would toss Hades. Hades is clearly the stronger one of him and Hythlodaeus; he's the DRK tank, after all. He would have to throw Hythlodaeus. But if Azem and Hythlodaeus were alone, Azem would definitely convince Hythlodaeus to throw them. Because being the Fastball Special would be a blast!

@horatio_lionheart

2 жыл бұрын

Hythlo: pay up Emet, they made it through another set of mobs Emet: double or nothing next set? Hythlo: you're on.

I love basically everything about endwalker, but the fact they had the balls to do the MGS4 ending with Zenos is just the icing on the cake

@ich3730

2 жыл бұрын

with these animations? looked cringe af xD

@zapmouse5988

Жыл бұрын

@@ich3730 Those animations are literally the height of what they could have done. They have to account for both Lalafels and Roegadyn. It's not cringe it's frankly incredible.

*clicks video* "hoo boy, im gonna cry at the end of this again" *cries in the first minute* "HEY THATS NOT FAIR!"

I love that his predictions in the beginning were right on both guesses both times lol

@dracoslayer16

2 жыл бұрын

Everybody dies AND everybody lives. Who'd have guessed.

@Galaick

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, it very much IS a Final Fantasy game in that regards lmao

@Blitzwaffen

2 жыл бұрын

@@dracoslayer16 Just this once, Everybody Lives!

@Hwyadylaw

2 жыл бұрын

@@Blitzwaffen The Doctor goes to Eorzea

No matter how many times I watch this ending I STILL cry!

@dale7326

2 жыл бұрын

Elmet: Give me a break, I don’t need your pity!

Endsinger voice-line in final phase (last sentence before the song loop) JP: 終わりの名は希望などではないっ！ translated: The name of The End cannot be such thing as "Hope" ! EN Localized: None should hope for better sadly, the EN localization get rid of this easter egg.... Part of this voice-line, back in FF14 1.0, is the final quest name in patch 1.23a before the dalamud fall. quest name in JP version 終わりの名は希望 (The name of The End is Hope) EN Localized: Living on a Prayer the quest giver was Louisoix, for adventurer to embark on a pilgrimage to rouse the Twelve from their slumber in order to prevent 7th Umbral Calamity from coming to pass. This also link to the prayer scene before final phase as well. as in ARR scions pray for the Twelves. now they pray for WoL to triumph and come back safely.

@DaniPotatoArt

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting! I wonder why EN localization did that; it was too good to get rid of.

@MetaL556

2 жыл бұрын

@@DaniPotatoArt It's a JP-only reference clearly, since the English translation of the original is different too. Also, how many people remember 1.0, really? I, for one, only learned of FFXIV when Shadowbringers came out.

@wolfspledge1762

2 жыл бұрын

that just sounds awkward in english

One of my favorite things about this zone is how the music changes as you progress. In the beginning, you can only hear one part of it, and as you progress from one area to the next, more and more of the parts of the song play through, until you finally hear the whole song including the amazing vocals

"What must I do to get you to recoil in despair?" Tell me my favorite anime is getting a netflix adaptation.

Phase 2 of The Endsinger is still just such an amazing experience to witness. Endsinger: Wait, what happened to my boss music? Warrior of Light: Oh, yeah. That's MY boss music now.

@ninboy01

2 жыл бұрын

It was never even her boss music lol. Just music representing trials you’ve already conquered. The moment Zenos showed up it was a downhill battle for her.

@Genstrider

2 жыл бұрын

Endsinger: WAIT WHY DO I HEAR BOSS MUSIC?????

@NebulonRanger

2 жыл бұрын

Both phases aren't really her boss theme. Phase 1 represents all the trials you and the Scions have conquered together, and phase 2 is The Maker's Ruin lmao

@answer131313

10 ай бұрын

My fave thing i did when i ran endwalker with my girlfriend at this point was when we hit phase to, and it all blacked out i said "gg, we hit enrage timer" then when "light the way" appear i said, "our enrage timer"

The 1v1 was so much fun as a Scholar, scrambling around, dodging AoEs, healing at full power as much as i could. I even got to last hit with my book.

@ToxicTheFelinae

2 жыл бұрын

Just imagining grabbing a thick, hardcover dictionary and slamming it onto Zeno's head now

@SilvarusLupus

2 жыл бұрын

Me on my summoner, lol dragon go boom

On top of my own playthrough, I watched this ending probably about 10 times on different streams including Jesse, but it still fucks me up as if it was the first time

@Art2D2

2 жыл бұрын

Same

I loved the "I am going to kick the shit out of you when we're done" into Zenos' ear

Jesse is right, not much of the stuff with Meteion or the return of our best friends Hades and Hythlodaeus did not make me cry. But Hades, in his own way, trying to cheer you up lets you know of all the things we haven't seen yet. In his own way, he was trying to let us know it's okay that even though they will be gone for good, that we still have much more of an adventure to go. I love Hades and Hythlodaeus. I love those boys so much.

Watching Jesse run the full gamut of emotions on seeing Shinryu's entry (confusion, suspicion, realization, delight) was everything.

Come to think of it i just realized that but when they dropped down the teleporter when the player character and zenos are lieing on the ground it make the exact same sound like a heart monitors beeping. And just before you are teleported, it makes the same sound when a heart stops beating showing that zenos has passed on

Emmit just laying out the next decade of the game had me sobbing XD

something i appreciate bout the endsinger fight is in the second half, every job gets their thing. tank LB, DPS big number boost and healer unavoidable party aoe damage to heal. and it feels so damn good. cant wait for the extreme version of this

@ericbright1742

Жыл бұрын

In the Ultimate fights, they usually end with the boss killing the party, one by one. Bahamut targets each player and obliterates them. Ultima lifts players up and drops an Orbital Strike on them. Alexander drops temporal cages that players have to soak one by one. Dragon-King Thordan has 3 sets of 3 towers that need to be soaked; sacrifice 3 players or wipe. I hope, when they finally get around to The Endsinger (Ultimate), they incorporate the Limit Break into it. Something like Dynamis Eruption. She just keeps casting it over and over. First hit, it fills the LB to LB3, and everyone gets a debuff where casting an LB will effectively Doom the caster. However, if the AoE goes off and the LB bar is already filled, everyone explodes. That means one by one, every player needs to cast LB3, then die gloriously.

This game made me tear up over the departure of a man who committed mass murder on multiple entire worlds.

Aldbert's "let's finish this" still gives me goosebumps holy shit

@NebulonRanger

2 жыл бұрын

Ardbert is still such an amazing character, man.

Man, coming back to this 2 years later, I'm now feeling nostalgic for Jesse's playthrough of this game it's crazy... I kinda want to just go back and re-watch the Twitch archives now. So many amazing and funny moments, so many sad moments, just, so many moments that I'll never forget. Like seeing how excited he got when Hien's theme started playing, since it's new rendition of the Doma theme from FFVI, how much fun he had playing through the Manderville quests. Just, so much good stuff man.

50:48 that moment when the song kicks in, you know you're winning and nothing's gonna stop you

@SyaitanBDO

2 жыл бұрын

especially right before the chorus drops, Graha Tia was saying "For hope will shine again!"

man i teared up in less than 60 seconds. I was there when all these bits started and im glad to have been part of the journey.

49:00 what happens here isn't bossfight phase 2, it's Warrior of Light Phase 2, as you can see by her surprise as our health bars refill, our music kicks in, and she starts flailing, having lost control.

Thank you Jesse, for giving the ending the reaction it deserved. It was an amazing run.

riding your nemesis in dragon form through hyperspace to defeat the bird that's singing the song that ends the universe. And then killing him in an MGS4 Snake v. Ocelot style sequence. Such a great end to the 2.0-6.0 arc.

"Greetings, you who are my final encounter." - I cried the most for this line...she deserves the world and so much more :(

@NebulonRanger

2 жыл бұрын

Meteion deserved way better than she got, and so did Hermes. Even though what Hermes did at Ktisis Hyperboreia was wrong, it wasn't completely evil. He was already struggling with his own demons, and hearing what had become of not only what were basically his children to him, but also of the worlds they visited, pushed him over the edge. Nobody wanted to acknowledge the issues at the root of Ancient society and it came back to bite them harder than anything else could have. Meteion... where to begin, man? We're talking about a child--albeit one that's probably the most powerful empath in the universe--who was tasked to process and relay the answers to an inherently flawed question. The Meteion we know was an interface to dozens upon dozens of other Meteia with little capacity for individuality, but a powerful will and identity nonetheless. It's no surprise that, being sheltered from the reality of the universe until she had to relay their report to Hermes, the sheer despair and emotional trauma her sisters experienced on their journeys would have overwhelmed her to the degree it did.

@ich3730

2 жыл бұрын

@@NebulonRanger thats why, despite being hyped af for zenos, the ending for me ruined everything. Meteion was as close to cosmic horror as the game will ever get and then we end it with a bad 4th wall break, bad face animations and a CRINGE hand-to-hand combat scene ( where my BLM looked like the dumbest cat in the world for punching zenos in the face when she could conjure small suns as filler spells )

@DawnAfternoon

2 жыл бұрын

@@ich3730 I feel like being a mage actually enhances the impact of that scene. You're run dry of magic, but you're sure as hell not gonna stop because of that and start decking Zenos. You've gone to the point where you've exhausted everything you have, and still carried on with a fist fight.

@xanmontes8715

20 күн бұрын

Hermes tasked an AI to answer the most complex philosophical answer imaginable. To say the Final Days are 100% his fault is an understatement.

I really wish I could experience this for the 1st time again. A decade of storytelling and memories. I hopped onto the FFXIV train at the tail end of Shadowbringers, but I don't regret investing the time I did in the MSQ. Cheers to more everyone!

I still find it genuinely amazing how many of these predictions you got technically correct.

Jesse: I just wanna ride a dragon :( Zenos: Hold my beer.

I love Midgardsormr's line cause if there is anyone that knows how strong you are it's him.

It was a blast watching you play this live. Endwalker got us all, and I'm glad I got to watch you experience it too.

Love that Emets final words to you were basically a Dare/Challenge

Jesse: "The last boss will be some dude with end in it's name, or it'll be Zenos" -Well, that was pretty accurate lol Jesse: "I want to ride a dragon into the last boss, I'm so excited, ughh" -Well damn, call me a Genie, because you're gonna ride that dragon!

@firedrake110

2 жыл бұрын

Zenos: "This? This is your final boss?! Hah, a trivial birb such as this could not hope challenge you, my friend! Let us dispatch this banal creature, that a more fitting tune might sound as we dance among the flames of a million, million dead worlds!"

@VDA19

2 жыл бұрын

"I want to ride a dragon into the last boss" Well yes, but actually no. I think it's perfect that the Zenos 'boss fight' is the end of Endwalker. It's perfect. The Warrior of Light and Zenos are both two different sides of the same coin and both are utterly IMMUNE to the Endsinger's despair.

The best thing about that Light the Way moment is that they are doing the prayer poses from End of an Era.

" I take it this is your prey. But why does it still live? Surely it is no match for you. " -- Zenos, about the strongest creature in the universe

I missed your streams in case you mentioned this already, but I love the symbolism of your outfit. Bringing so many of our friends to this final fight.

Yeah I saw Zenos as speaking to the player rather than the WoL because as gamers we are always fighting boss after boss and still wanting more but due to the way gaming works it’s impossible to find a “rival” since respawns and saves will inevitably let you win but we still fight as many tough enemies as possible in every game we play

@CooroSnowFox

Жыл бұрын

"Speak to you not as the hero..."

I fucking cried so hard when we clinched our fist and the theme played. Like I'm not even joking. I weeped like a broken man

I love coming back to your reaction, especially because I share a moment - the one with Zenos. As he was talking, my brain went "damn, this stalking BFF of mine knows me too well" and then the answer options popped up.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I also went to do UwU, and weirdly enough for my taste, I went the PF route, where after about 3 days I found 7 usual faces and we created a LS. Two weeks in which I had holidays, 12-16 hours per day, and it finally "filled my void" 😄

You know one thing I gotta asy, during the second phase, Endinsingers lines about pain and loss, and the fact that background is now lit up, while end walker flails and exudes an aura of shadow. It's such a lovely touch. Almost like the will and hope of you and your allies overwhelming the despair of the ultima thule. Like how tanchred at the start saves us by willing: Survive.

I played a bunch of videogames in my life and read a whole lot of books, but this ending is the best I've ever seen tbh. Really enjoyed the journey, it's a rollercoaster of emotions from the very beginning to it's end. Damn. This is how you tell a story, imo

I've played Endwalker, I know what happens and yet watching this, THE CHILLS/GOOSEBUMPS/HYPES STILL GO THROUGH ME!!!!! THAT'S HOW GOOD THIS EXPANSION IS!!!!

I'm convinced Urianger is actually the main character of FF14. He's typically the one that puts all the puzzle pieces together and forms a solution with it. He goes everywhere you do, sometimes first like we're following his lead. Everybody turns to him for guidance. And most importantly, the story around him and Moenbryda is anime as fuck and his side backstory pertaining to her is the premise to like 80% of the Slice of Life animes out there.

@sirflimflam

2 жыл бұрын

It's funny you say that because I've had this thought on more than one point. All the times where he's forced to do something very...mc-like. Literally always going off on his own doing what needs done.

@Rakka5

2 жыл бұрын

Urianger is the best Scion, fight me.

@NCamico

2 жыл бұрын

For real. Urianger and G'raha Tia have done more to pave the path of the overarching story than anyone else.

@Xanthanarium

2 жыл бұрын

The one thing that always bothered me about Moenbryda was how briefly she was in the story, and then how many times people got sad about her. It feels like you spend more time mourning her than being with her!

@SomethingScotty

2 жыл бұрын

@@Xanthanarium Yeah I agree, she wasn't really around long enough to develop an attachment to, so watching her arc play out was more interesting seeing how it effected Urianger than her, in my opinion at least. The devs were probably banking on the fact that we'd develop an attachment to her through Urianger. I got what their story together was supposed to be though because I used to watch RomCom's back in the day.

Zenos - Truly the best of friends - heard your wish to ride a dragon, and came through for you in the end.

Jesse is the one to truly get everything. Thanks for being the best at the lore thing Jesse. He also got the adventurer thing perfectly.

@Slagomancer

2 жыл бұрын

Zenos and the WoL, truly opposite sides of the same coin.

The final zone and ending fights were so good... wish I could turn back time just to re-live it. What a spectacle, XIV has shattered all expectations and transcended its limits as a MMORGP.

@trinioler

2 жыл бұрын

New Game+ will exist soon with the patches for the last bits.

That damn smirk is so good right before the last fight

A streamer that actually understands the point theyre trying to make with Zenos character? Absolutely poggers.

@patrickferreira5301

2 жыл бұрын

What’s the point of demos? Genuinely curious

@epicadventureturtle1363

2 жыл бұрын

@@patrickferreira5301 WoL has stored up resentment and rage as seen through various quests. Zenos is the only character that acknowledges this and doesnt act like youre some kinda perfect moral being. It humanizes the WoL and makes a point that you can enjoy the fighting but still be the hero. The whole expansion is about the morally gray. Ascians and Hydaelyn werent perfect, neither was Zodiark all bad. The finale is about the acceptance that the WoL is no exception to this.

@OhNoTheFace

2 жыл бұрын

@@epicadventureturtle1363 Also, if any of you have done hard content just for the joy of it, he explicitly calls you out for also doing something hard or crazy just for the joy of it, and no other reason, even as some pretend that is bad for him

@PurpleAlzir

2 жыл бұрын

@@OhNoTheFace The problem people had with that is conflating player and character motivation when that may not always line up. I do enjoy doing hard content and raids but personally my WoL would not want to push herself like that for just the challenge alone.

@OhNoTheFace

2 жыл бұрын

@@PurpleAlzir He or she does, whether you head canon it or not

In any other property, ANY OTHER ONE, I would have been pissed at Hythlodeus' complimenting the story. But here it's well deserved.

Tataru’s carbuncle is the reason I am able to type this sentence today. 🖤 what an amazing expansion and thank you for recording it live!!

Bro. This was a journey. Never cried as much in a game. An emotional journey.

i fucking love Zenos, or as I affectionately refer to him, Battle Husband! I love the "soul mate but for murder" thing he has with the WoL and how it builds up to this final showdown.

Thank you for the amazing journey Jesse, it's been so fun to watch this.

I got to the end yesterday and MAN I'm with you on all the emotions ever.

Saw ALL of this live. But still here watching the recap with god tier editing. Thank you Editor and Thank you Jesse :)

That beginning touched me. I had one friend that I went through the entirety of Heavensward, StBl and ShB with. We sat down one day and just reminisced, and it was the best feeling in the world.

On 23:53 I’m more than sure that even by his voice tone, that’s Solus’s consciousness and memories. He still treasure them. Everyone get out I want to be alone

I love that even watching you play through it I am feeling all the emotions all over again. It is fun to share in that with you even though I watch it as a recording ^^ . My brother only just started playing and I hope one day he experiences all of it till this point so I can talk to him about it too. :)

I've rewatched this more times than i remember and i still tear up whenever hermes voice comes on the timing of the music really hit it home hard

"I feel so called out." I really feel like Zenos is speaking to the player the entire time. "I want to speak to you, not the hero, but you."

@Keira_Blackstone

Жыл бұрын

I certainly see where they deliberately left that as an option for people to read into it, but for me, it worked on the level that he's a complete sociopath that feels attached to another human for the first time in his life, and is literally incapable of imagining that you aren't secretly just like him.

I never thought anything could make me grin harder than the 5.3 ending did. I was not prepared for this.

I love how all his predictions were basically right, even the contradictory ones.

i watched it live on twitch and had so much fun experiencing this w u thank jc!

Interesting detail that I overlooked on the first playthrough. When you go back to the first to see Elidibus, he has a comment, "I saw you there, in Elpis." But we never encountered him in Elpis, until the raid series. I'm curious as to how the line he has at the end, "As he/she foretold." Not sure we've hit that point yet, as if we'll set him up to wait for us before the Panda raids began.

@Jesse Cox We do answer Hydaelyn. The fight is our answer. The title of the song that plays, the variation of Answers, is titled "Your Answer". In defeating her we answered her question. Was it all worth it? Yes.

i did not noticed until now and i have seen the zenos cutscene in a lot of streams but he literally ask us the same hydaelyn did

Loved it. Thank you for showing your journey, Jessie!

NGL, when you swapped to RDM for the fight with Zenos, I happy-screamed a bit. I'd changed mains from NIN to RDM shortly before our initial encounter with him back in StB, and I remember the smoldering shame of having been defeated so easily. And every time I encountered him again, it was with rapier in hand, so seeing someone else also take that route just made me want to YELL. That sort of circular, call-back storytelling is so damn good!! But more than that, same, oh SAME, he read me for absolute filth, and aye, that I cannot deny. Always did I choose the harder path, always did I seek out the more challenging battles, and with each victory came the emptiness of "what next." And this fight, THIS FIGHT! My blood sang, my pulse danced, and my soul BURNED as he gave me the challenge that I had desired and he had earned. It was glorious! It was MAGNIFICENT! I laughed with mad delight, even when he stood up again and again, as he did for me, and... ...when it was over, yes, I had found fulfilment. I had saved the world, ALL worlds, ensuring that life would continue, and on dead worlds life would flourish again. I had found an opponent worthy of my skill. And when I stood triumphant at the end I shook with the thrill of victory. But that was not to last, for I knew that he would offer me no further challenge, not merely because I had exceeded him, but that he had found his own fulfilment, and with it, no further reason to live. As I had done for the Scions, so did he grant me escape from the far end of the universe, and with it, the gift of future challenges and worlds to explore. That void will yawn empty once more, again and again, but for a moment, for just a brief moment, we burned as stars, and in it we LIVED. And in the end, at the end of all things, isn't that what matters?