Ok, I just want to make something clearer. I shouldn't have said that Fatty Arbuckle was "the biggest victim." Of course, in this situation, there were two victims, and Virginia Rappe's death shouldn't be downplayed. She was (likely) suffering from a very serious medical problem and she did nothing wrong. Fatty Arbuckle's career and life were ruined by the scandal. Both had a lot to drink and the situation was very confusing for everyone involved. There is no reason to debate whose fate was more tragic because they both were, just in very different ways.

@davidjones-vx9ju

3 жыл бұрын

dying is a lot worse than losing your job

@MC-yy2bx

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidjones-vx9ju It wasn't "just losing your job" It was the DESRUCTION of a person's reputation. that's why they call it "CHARACTER ASSASSINATION" - a person's character, reputation, good name is KILLED FOREVER. He didn't just lose his job, he lost his reputation, his good name, his career - everything you God Damned jackass.

@TimMillernapavalleyfilmworks

3 жыл бұрын

@@MC-yy2bx again dying is a lot worst than losing your job and rep

@MC-yy2bx

3 жыл бұрын

@@TimMillernapavalleyfilmworks No it sn't. Try LIVING after your reputation, career and ability to get a job are ALL destroyed. It's worse than being dead. You ARE stupid.

@hugomikaelsson4055

3 жыл бұрын

Was going to say that the biggest victim was in fact Virginia Raffe. Then I saw your post. Well done! Excellent video, at any rate. Keep up the good work.

It's terrible that they banned Arbuckle's films after he was found innocent. Hollywood is a cesspool even today. So sick of them.

@johnglue1744

3 жыл бұрын

The media is still the same as well.

@haggismacphreedom8270

3 жыл бұрын

LOL today the industry would have covered for him while he partied on Epstein Island with Kevin Spacey and Tom Hanks.

@johnglue1744

3 жыл бұрын

@@haggismacphreedom8270 That’s what’s odd they choose to protect some and cast out others. Maybe someone high up felt slighted by him. Who knows?

@sparx180

3 жыл бұрын

JB I feel the same as yourself. Have not watched a movie in the theater for about 30 yrs now.

@haggismacphreedom8270

3 жыл бұрын

@@sparx180 I broke down and paid to go see Force Awakens. It was a clear reminder to me why the last movie I paid to go see before that was Gladiator.

It’s nice to see the media has not changed one bit in a 100yrs.

@heathergustar638

3 жыл бұрын

They don t let the truth ruin a good story

@painkillerjones6232

2 жыл бұрын

They've gotten much worse.

@tugginalong

Жыл бұрын

You’re exactly correct. We should realize that their job is to sell viewership/readership and their disregard for the truth should be enough for us to make better decisions about their content, but unfortunately, it doesn’t.

@fishhuntadventure

11 ай бұрын

@@tugginalongpeople worship “stars” in both their disdain and their love of the celebrity. The truth is they are just people but marketed as bigger than life; many celebrities have good character and their ‘sins’ are not more or less significant than average janes and joes. Yet, the many ‘fliers’ whose corruption and self centeredness are outstanding often live above the law. The “me-too” debacle has so many supposed and so many factual victims it’s hard to tell the difference. The biblical saw of ‘abstain from all appearance of evil’ is a nugget of wisdom lost on modern and post-modern America in general. The risk of scandal is largely avoided if one lives a life free and intentionally removed from the ‘it’s complicated’ behavior that gets one into sticky situations. Not saying that was specifically Arbuckle’s complication but I’m commenting regarding the generally often despicable behavior of Hollywood and other celebrities. Thumbs up.

@Mynamesalexa

10 ай бұрын

YELLOW JOURNALISM

The hypocrisy of Hearst making judgements when he kept a well known mistress himself & destroyed people in his publications who he took a disliking to.

@lizardproduartesindi

2 жыл бұрын

Hearst killed Thomas ince in 1924. Legend or not, is probably.

@maofas

Жыл бұрын

That was the least of it. Hearst was a card carrying Nazi who funneled Goebbles' propaganda stories during the 30s to the American public. Some of the information is still cited in modern books recycled in the meantime through multiple other books with the original source forgotten.

People love to have someone to hate.

@jackiebayliss

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Sad but true.

@MC-yy2bx

3 жыл бұрын

@@jackiebayliss You said it ! You can't BLAME the dead. You can't FINE The dead. You can't JAIL the dead. People want their measure of flesh and blood and THEY get it.

😇 RIP Fatty Arbuckle 😇 🙏. 😇

@ChocolateFizzles

3 жыл бұрын

I liked your comment till I saw your username, had to take my like back lol

Chris Farley was going to make a movie and portray Fatty but sadly we know how that ended.

@RobMacKendrick

3 жыл бұрын

He'd've been great in that role.

@Contact_Info

3 жыл бұрын

@@RobMacKendrick surely.

@renoraider9817

3 жыл бұрын

Really? I''ve never seen him do anything serious.

@MASTEROFEVIL

3 жыл бұрын

Was Fatty really blonde though?

@elizabethrichards9152

Жыл бұрын

Chris Farley, John Candy, and John Belushi we're also considered for the movie. It is believe to be a cursed project

I just watched a video of one of the last surviving Little Rascals-she was a sweet elderly lady but sharp as a tack-she witnessed Fatty save a toddler from a rabid dog by scooping her up and running with her to safety only to have the mom grab the baby from him in a huff with no thanks- she said Fatty was so hurt and upset that he cried -Stan Laurel came out of the Studio where this took place as Fatty had been at the gate talking to the guard,saw Fatty so distraught and took him across the street to get him some pie and console him. Fatty loved dogs, life and humor-he was treated horribly while guilty people get away with truly bad acts-I really liked seeing him and his last wife smiling and happy-RIP

@killface4989

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing. I'm so happy to hear he loved dogs ❤ my pups named Roscoe "Fatty" Arbuckle.

@MisterRlGHT

3 жыл бұрын

And then Fatty and Stan and the old lady and the baby all somersaulted down a long shaky flight of stairs together.

@glowinggold9488

3 жыл бұрын

He seemed like he was sensitive..

@kathymartin7724

2 жыл бұрын

He seemed to be a nice fella.

@constantine7382

2 жыл бұрын

I heard that story. 100 years later, it brought a tear to my eye and I am not an overly emotional person. Such a shame. I hope his accusers got exactly what they had coming. In this life or the next.

He'd be considered normal size by today's standards.

@bobert8618

3 жыл бұрын

I was watching an old episode of “The Waltons” and a doctor told one of the gossiping wives she needed to get on a diet. She looked fine by today’s average.

@sparx180

3 жыл бұрын

Earl Gray Thank you. My first laugh of the day.

@saxongreen78

3 жыл бұрын

Roscoe 'Normal' Arbuckle.

@JohnDonovanProductions

3 жыл бұрын

@@saxongreen78 exactly LOL I was gonna say he just be Arbuckle

@tripeeblonde8309

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, yes he would

Love how you inserted that old song in the background. It was hauntingly perfect!

Another bs scam against this poor man.

I believe that Buster Keaton when making a new contract with a film company wrote in a payment to his friend Rosco. After all Rosco had helped to start Busters career in the Butcher Boy

@MrTruckerf

3 жыл бұрын

They were friends till the end.

@louislamonte334

Жыл бұрын

Many film historians also credit Arbuckle with giving Charlie Chaplin his shtick too, and I believe that.

Media hasn’t changed much in the last century. Or the California judicial system.

Hearst was a disgusting p.o.s., no wonder Patty did the Stockholm thing. They did Arbuckle so dirty, I can't stand it! Rappe was done just as dirty and she stood up for him, character assassination is the worst crime you could do to a decent person and my stomach always ends up in knots when I think about it.

@petebondurant58

7 ай бұрын

Wm. R. Hearst died before Patty was even born.

This sums it up: "On April 12, 1922, the jury acquitted Arbuckle of manslaughter after deliberating for just five minutes-four of which were used to prepare a statement: Acquittal is not enough for Roscoe Arbuckle. We feel that a great injustice has been done to him … there was not the slightest proof adduced to connect him in any way with the commission of a crime. He was manly throughout the case and told a straightforward story which we all believe. We wish him success and hope that the American people will take the judgment of fourteen men and women that Roscoe Arbuckle is entirely innocent and free from all blame."

In the summer of 1921, Roscoe “Fatty” Arbuckle was on top of the world. Paramount Pictures had paid him an unprecedented $3 million over three years to star in 18 silent films, and he’d just signed another million-dollar contract with the studio.

I am so surprised at what little time elapsed between his arrest and the first trial. Two months? And then another two months between first and second trial? By today's standards, that is lightning quick.

@sarahpiaggio2693

3 жыл бұрын

yes, 2 months is perfect timing so that the hysteria stirred up among the public would still be at fever-pitch and would ensure that his trial wasn't fair.

@vinnieviddivicci5459

3 жыл бұрын

@@sarahpiaggio2693 - good observation! 👍

I'm sorry Mr Arbuckle. You didn't deserve such horrible treatment 💔

@heathergustar638

3 жыл бұрын

Me too Mr arbuckle

@kathymartin7724

3 жыл бұрын

So awful bless his heart.

He resembled Chris Farley. Or should I say Chris Farley resembled Roscoe.

@Gwaithmir

3 жыл бұрын

Interestingly, Chris Farley had been offered a script on the life of Fatty Arbuckle, which he was studying just prior to his death.

@donttalktomeyoureannoying8736

3 жыл бұрын

@@Gwaithmir I didn’t know this! He would’ve made a great fatty arbuckle

"14,000 dollar contract in 1920 equivalent to about 1 million dollars today." um its a little over 182k today. where did you get a million from ?

@MASTEROFEVIL

3 жыл бұрын

This video was uploaded in 2019

@ice-iu3vv

3 жыл бұрын

@@MASTEROFEVIL ... which might make the figure a negligible trace LOWER, as in 179-180k today, it certainly wouldnt restore any credibility to the absurd and in fact plainly an arbitrary guess the uploader took. a million is preposterous, as is pointing out that it was made in 2019, as if that changes ANYTHING.

Incredible historical info. The newspaper pages are such a treat! Thanx for great storytelling, again. (I’m hooked)😺

First time I ever knew about this was a book I had picked up at a garage sale called, Hollywood Babylon ", and the details of this was explicit. Thank you for covering it.❤

It’s good you posted this. So tragic.

One more thing:. Stan Laurel tried to get Arbuckle to work at the Hal Roach studios so he wouldn't be destitute. Roach refused because of what it might do to the studio's reputation.

Well done documentary! Thank you.

He didn’t do it, the prudes needed a scapegoat to satisfy their phony moral indignation!!

I've been a huge fan of "Roscoe Fatty Arbunkle" since I was a lil youngster. May legions of Angels have winged him to his rest. He made so many people smile/laugh/love! He is not forgotten.

@TimMillernapavalleyfilmworks

3 жыл бұрын

A lady died, what about her.

@TheSuperHarrygeorge

3 жыл бұрын

@@TimMillernapavalleyfilmworks of course but he was falsely accused of raping her so she died. This was the end of his career and his reputation.

@HilaryB.

3 жыл бұрын

@@TimMillernapavalleyfilmworks it's tragic that she died, but it wasn't him that killed her was it? Are you saying that any old suspect will do, innocent or otherwise, and that he should have been hanged? If I ever end up in court, I sincerely hope I don't have you on a jury!

@TimMillernapavalleyfilmworks

3 жыл бұрын

@@HilaryB. He shoved a coke bottle up her, the guy killed her. I guess OJ Simpson is innocent in your book too 😇

@HilaryB.

3 жыл бұрын

@@TimMillernapavalleyfilmworks you have to have proof before you go hanging people . Just because you think he did it isn't proof. Like I say,wouldn't want anyone with such a lack of objectivity on a jury if I was on trial.

Great little doc on Arbuckle! Thank you!

Thanks for the upload and the good reporting. RIP Fatty. Your innocence has come to light.

Great video. I skipped others and watched yours I could tell right away you put extra work in.

Fascinating, and I look forward to your other videos. Thank you.

His family needs to be compensated by the movie industry for this

@nathalie_desrosiers

3 жыл бұрын

Why? They *personnally* did not suffer. But HE should have received it it, for sure.

@mrright2288

3 жыл бұрын

@@nathalie_desrosiers If he suffered the loss of income due to the loss of a successful career then his family has suffered the residual loss of generational wealth... This is how the majority of wealth is accrued.. the passing of finances from one generation to the next. What affects one generation will affect the next.

@nathalie_desrosiers

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrright2288 And how can you calculate those loss? Hey, Hollywood, give us millions of dollars! Why? Because we say so.

@mrright2288

3 жыл бұрын

@@nathalie_desrosiers You have various ways of calculation the affects that inflation on money... It would be no mystery concerning the accumulation of wealth over any period of time...

@nathalie_desrosiers

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrright2288 You like to be right, right? Various ways mean various amount of money? This case would not hold in court, plain and simple.

Rumors regarding a coke bottle were rife at the time . His character and his professional life never recovered .

Delmont should’ve been prosecuted.

Good job on this video, keep them coming

It was a tragic and sad trial it not only ruined Roscoe Arbuckle know as Fatty's career but it was an injustice and I think his name Should be cleared of any wrongdoing

@willhuey4891

3 жыл бұрын

even though she died from a ruptured appendix at the time.

@rcdogmanduh4440

3 жыл бұрын

I think this is as good a place as any to say " what?"

@neilforbes416

3 жыл бұрын

@Jennifer White, Rosco Arbuckle's name was cleared and exonerated by the jury at the Third Trial, but the damage had been done by the *gutter press* of W.R. Hearst and other news(?) paper proprietors inclusively. America clearly has *EXTREMELY LAX* libel and slander laws that are just as bad today as they ever were!

@neilforbes416

3 жыл бұрын

@@willhuey4891 Not her appendix, her bladder!(amended after reading a comment further down).

@peacenow42

3 жыл бұрын

@@neilforbes416 it may have been both , it's possible

Arbuckle helped launched the careers of Buster Keaton, Charlie Chaplin, and a young Bob Hope. What a talent wasted by lies.

@suemount6042

3 жыл бұрын

Yes and it’s still happening today sadly

@bigwu100

3 жыл бұрын

I think Charlie Chaplin got in some trouble too as well as Buster Keaton.

@sparx180

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigwu100 I believe Charlie C was in trouble but not Keaton.

Media, Hollywood and greed

Very good resume of the whole case. I am glad that you mentioned Maude Delfount and the Prosecuting Attorney. "The Golden Age of Hollywood" in the episode "Double Beds and Double Standards". Gives a lengthy review of the whole case. There is one thing though that puzzles me. Right before the party, Arbuckle said to Viola Dana, "Kids, I ' be got to go up to San Francisco, I can't tell you why--but for God's sake, don't die on me.". Dana thought that was an odd remark, and I thought, "what did he mean by that statement?". Did Arbuckle have a premonition?

Very well done. I just found your channel and have subscribed. Usually I have to watch at least several videos of someone’s channel to make sure I like their content, the way they do it, and see if I feel they have done the research fully to give an informed, unbiased accurate account of whatever the subject is about. With this video, I subscribed on the first one. My hat off to you

@karlachilders1145

3 жыл бұрын

@the1920schannel, if I have one suggestion, it would be to include what the official cause of death was. As soon as your video was over, I immediately googled Fatty Arbuckles cause of death.

Clowns usually have tragic lives. He was a great asset to the Silent Film Era of Visual Comedy. It is so sad that someone's greed cost a man his cherrished livelihood and eventually.......his life. I believe he died of a broken heart.

Found your channel through your video about art déco. Love it. Subscribed!

@The1920sChannel

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

Great channel. Thanks very much!

Been watching your vids just have to say , bloody awesome I'm now a subscriber to you , ✌💕🇬🇧

he was the first victim of media bashing

The more things change, the more they remain the same.

Another case of trial by media.

I've never understood how people can disregard innocence to better their career or gain fortune/fame. Even if it were someone I didn't like, I'd rather live a modest existence then knowingly ruin someone's life for personal gain.

very tragic story and yes although a lady died it is really sad how Arbuckle was thrown to the wolves . Was it looked into that she may have had sex with another man before or after Arbuckle , it was a drink and sex fueled party with im sure everyone sleeping with everyone or was her bladder so infected that with or without sex it still would have ruptured . It must have been like a death sentence for Arbuckle to live out his life under a dark cloud and being shunned im sure it must have affected him badly . I hope the lady rests in peace and maybe someday his name might be cleared of all association with her death and let him rest in peace as well .

There had been considerable suspicion from the public about Hollywood. Especially from the older generation" Man. those "older generation" folks have been right in their predictions and suspicions about so many things in the past. Pity we don't acknowledge them until it's too late.

Has justice always been so unjust?

Such a sad story.

And yet thousands of people visit Hearst Castle every year. Truly a shame. You ruin someone’s life to benefit your own. Disgusting. Yet we’re all guilty of eating it up. “Cash rules everything around me cream get the money dolla dolla bills y’all!”

100 years later 2021 the media slime circus is still the same folks..cheers guys from uk..

@jamesjack6769

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the right-wing Tory supporting Murdoch operation is the pits.🤢

Even though he never got to do that feature film for WB, at least he was happy and had things to be positive about before he passed.

I love your channel! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

he must be the first guy to get cancelled

Very well done. My own personal favorite silent star. He couldn't be on the screen without making me smile. It's funny how things like this are remembered, often incorrectly. My Grandmother, who was a saint and never said a bad word about anyone, died at 87 years old in 1987. Someone once brought up this subject and she said, " oh, you mean that guy that raped and killed that girl." It's a shame but in cases like this, many people will ALWAYS side with the accuser. He was innocent and what they did to him was immoral. I HOPE he did die happy.

Today is the centenary of this disaster--though today he'd be ruined from internet rumors and spurious posts, rather than the tabloids.

Cancel culture even existed back then.

Holy smokes! Two acquittals were made mis-trials?! And, no punishment for Brady. The California way...

And to think that even in the year of 2021, our country is still extremely effed up! So sad 😣😖

Thank you. At least we can know the truth today.

Thank you! I enjoyed

It's a fascinating story. At one time a director wanted to make a film of the events with Chris Farley to play Arbuckle. I think John Candy would have been far better in the role. But it could have been a great exposé of the corrupt and greedy media of the time to try to sell papers even if it meant condemning a possibly innocent man to prison. We know that his career was destroyed and I don't think he lived much longer. It seems like a story the Coen brothers could accurately bring to the big screen. They do period films very well.

That Belmont woman should have received some sort of reprimand for ruining him the way she did. I don't know why they let her off so easy; she was no doubt supplying most of them with girls in exchange for non-prosecution!

Great Video" I've always heard Fatty Arbuckle was Innocent"

His death sounds like his heart was overloaded with joy and just gave out.

There had been some talk of Louie Anderson making a film about Fatty Arbuckle, but even 100 years later the questions surrounding the scandal still remain

Johnny Depp... same thing. Bogus accusations... and everyone in the industry knows he's innocent. Interesting Video. Well made.

He paved the way for a lot of comedians, He was hallarious. As for " murder"It was 100 years ago, everyone from that time is now gone, its long past but being everything I've heard i believe he was innocent.

Two newspaper front pages appear close together which I'd like to expand on: 2:30 The Herald Examiner was one of the Heart newspapers. William Randolph Hearst was still something of a liberal in this era. Note that the actual top headline attacks the Ku Klux Klan, which had come back to life after D.W. Griffith's Birth of a Nation in 1916. "Irish Demand Parley" refers to the four-sided fighting going on between the English, the Irish, the Irish, and the Irish. Hearst was a Catholic, so being against the Klan and for the Catholic Irish fits. "Bryan Attacks Head of B. of W." probably means William Jennings Bryan, a colorful speechifier who ran for President three times and lost three times. I don't know what the B. of W. was, but if they were against Prohibition or for teaching evolution, he would have attacked them. 2:35 The Oakland Tribune (my hometown paper) wasn't a Hearst paper in 1921 but that didn't make it Fatty's friend. Now it's a hundred years later, the Oakland Tribune is a sad little weekly, and few people have any idea who Arbuckle, Hearst or Bryan was.

$14,000 in 1920 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $183,107.40 today, an increase of $169,107.40 over 101 years. The dollar had an average inflation rate of 2.58% per year between 1920 and today, producing a cumulative price increase of 1,207.91%.

Looks like Cancel Culture was alive and well in the 1920s too. Nowadays - we don't need trials to ruin someone's life.., Just social media. Sad stuff.

@constantine7382

2 жыл бұрын

You are so right! I got a friend going through it right now and I just don't believe he is guilty. But all you have to do is point a finger. SOMEONE will always believe it.

Factual, but a word of caution: When writing a "documentary" about a scandal, be very careful to attribute your quotes and to avoid interjecting your personal opinion. When you do that, the result becomes an opinion editorial, rather than a documentary. Facts tell the truth, adjectives beget lawsuits. To be fair, though, as an accredited Hollywood historian, I've spent many hours researching this case in every period source known to exist, and I am still left with unanswered questions. Yes, Arbuckle was innocent, but the question of his innocence or guilt fades in importance when other questions are raised.

@HilaryB.

3 жыл бұрын

Would you care to elaborate? I would have thought that if you're trying someone for murder, their guilt or innocence was paramount. What could be more important than that? Especially to the accused.

@kenmorley2339

3 жыл бұрын

Yes , please elaborate .

@MC-yy2bx

3 жыл бұрын

There is no question as to his innocence. A Jury of his peers found him not guilty. That's the end of it. He doesn't owe anybody anything. To say otherwise is slander. To write otherwise is Libel.

@mindrolling24

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, this was interesting but there was a lot of the creator’s opinions in here and not much sympathy for the woman who died. Whether by accident or homicide, Rappe’s character was dragged through the mud, as if her past alleged behaviour some how contributed to her death. If it was murder, her past was irrelevant, if it was a medical problem it was also irrelevant: she died too young and it was a tragedy. I feel pity for Arbuckle but at least he lived a longer life.

@neilforbes416

3 жыл бұрын

@H.P. Oliver, how *WRONG* you are! Arbuckle's innocence or guilt - he was innocent - *DOES NOT FADE IN IMPORTANCE AT ALL!* Even with other questions raised, a person being unjustly tried and convicted of a crime he/she never committed is a crime in itself. America today, as it was in the 1920s, is *UTTERLY INCAPABLE* of delivering fair and just verdicts in *ANY* court of law at *ALL* levels!

I watched this video because I just finished Ace Atkins's book "Devil's Garden" about this case. Good read. The book is historical fiction, but the writer went to great lengths to get a LOT of it right.

I love this time period bring it on! Thank you!

I've known of this story since I was a child but I didn't have the background information to form a knowing opinion. Most of what I'd known was what was reported in the press at the time and that was highly prejudicial to Roscoe. While the rupture of her bladder is still a point of concern and played a role in the Coke bottle theory, it does appear that Roscoe was innocent of any wrong doing other than the illegal consumption of alcohol during prohibition. The sociopathic glee that many in the media and, sadly, the city attorneys office had doomed him to oblivion no matter the outcome. The statement by the third jury was powerful and deeply emotional -- they knew he had been ruined and wanted, needed, to clear the record.

Very good video. Thank you. I heard Chris Farley was due to play Arbuckle in a bio film

Thanks for this. Buster Keaton spoke of Roscoe in his own story, but this is the.most I have seen about it. I'm glad he was happy when he died.

Goodbye rosco your wonderful films and the laughter you brought us will live on forever

Another innocent person ruined by a messed up criminal justice system. My research in this is a bit different. Arbuckle often had parties in hotel suites on weekends. It was prohibition time so a lot of people came to have fun. Rappe (for the 1st time) came to the party with a friend. Everyone testified that Rappe was very sick when she arrived. Later, after Rappe's death, her friend told others that Rappe had gone through a botched abortion earlier that day. She went into a bedroom to lie down. There was no evidence that Arbuckle even went into the room. It was considered a rape because she was bleeding profusely vaginally.

God Bless him

This was the legit serious project Chris Farley was developing when he passed.

@soarornor

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a real lost opportunity. Chris would have been great in the role. Such a damn shame that he died.|

Whenever you hear the nonsensical statement that "women don't lie about these things," remind the speaker of the Roscoe Arbuckle situation.

@nathalie_desrosiers

3 жыл бұрын

Please don't forget all the people involved in the scandal: W.R. Hearst, a male All the journalists, males All the studio executives, males William S. Hart, male (the actor that made a number of damaging public statements, presuming that Arbuckle was guilty) Matthew Brady, male (the San Francisco District Attorney who planned to run for governor) etc.

Sigh, good effort you've done your research well and I enjoyed the content. But, like many others you have background music playing throughout. It makes it difficult to catch what you are saying some times and serves as a distraction at other times.

Back in the days when scandal would actually stick to someone.

The jury statement was beautifully telling.

William Randolph Hearst played up the sleeze because it brings in the money. So what if people are destroyed.

@jonathanstrong4812

Жыл бұрын

Maniac!

hey what music did you use for the video??

What was the name of that song that was playing through this interesting video?

Poor Roscoe being blamed for something he never did. Rappe had an std which Roscoe didn't have which was brought up as one reason to the impossibility of them ever having had sex. Love you Roscoe thank you for the laughs.

@SY-ok2dq

2 жыл бұрын

That was a rumor. It wasn't substantiated. At thr time, the tabloids weny crazy publishing all manner of stories and rumors as though they were checked facts. One report I read claimed that the veneral disease story was spread by Arbuckle's then wife (they later divorced). Other reports talk about how Rappe's boyfriend, film director Henry Lehrman, had a feud or beef with Arbuckle, and that's why Rappe said bad things about Arbuckle. All of these are things I've read online in various accounts. It's very hard to find really authoritative accounts backed up by strong evidence. There was so much speculation, wild rumors and tabloid stories printed at the time, and it was so long ago, that it's hard to really nail down specific details and distinguish fact from fiction.

@conniediaz6456

10 ай бұрын

@@SY-ok2dq Exactly, how can we possibly know the truth at this point?

@SY-ok2dq

10 ай бұрын

@@conniediaz6456 Hard to tell given how long ago it was and all the rumors, stories, lack of confirmed details etc. but I lean towards Arbuckle being not guilty. Rappe was unconscious and what she supposedly said that Arbuckle did that to her was something that I think, if I remember correctly, her dubious "friend" claimed that Rappe said (but only to her). That "friend" had a confirmed rap sheet with charges of extortion and blackmail, blackmailing stars with scandalous stories abour them etc.. And I believe was also rumored to be a madam, who "introduced" young ladies and wannabe starlets - such as Rappe was - to stars, celebs, and men with money. It seems very suspicious that that woman was the one who brought Rappe along to this party. It suggests that Rappe was possibly involved in that woman's schemes (either knowingly or unwittingly).

@conniediaz6456

10 ай бұрын

@@SY-ok2dq Very interesting, thank you!

A little off topic, but have you ever looked into Clark and McCullough? Super sad outcome to a great comedic duo with a lot of potential

Sad story. 🙁

I love this idea that you're channel entails a KZread channel for a decade its a interesting take and scope I don't think I have ever seen one devoted to one specific decade only

"media circus" -- some things never change.

@joshuarichardson6529

3 жыл бұрын

Hearst is rumored to have said, after the trial was over, "That man made me so much money, I should have paid him a commission."

I appreciate that you described the end of Arbuckle's life. It is the curse of many "fat" comedians to die young, including John Belushi, Chris Farley, John Candy and Sam Kinison. The sad part is that many of these type of comedians get into show business because their weight made them unattractive to women so they refined their skills at making others laugh as a way to get the love they were otherwise missing. I think it mattered to Arbuckle that he have the love of the movie public and this prosecution robbed him of it, something that probably contributed to his heart condition.

Great video!!! I’d you want to read a book that captures 1920’s Hollywood as well as this case and others, read Tinseltown by William J. Mann.

Man, this whole scandal is just awful!

Poor man. Have never thought he did anything wrong. Have also read the woman died from a botched abortion. So who knows.