You should pin a comment and/or edit the description to say that some of the information is outdated, like the installation instructions. There is now an official launcher for OpenGOAL which is much easier to use and change around everything! Also Jak 1 is 100% complete and Jak 2 is (hopefully) becoming completable this year.

@FanTheDeck

Жыл бұрын

Hey hope you don't mind but I just pinned your comment haha. Not a ton of people come to this video these days.

@Zippy_Zolton

Жыл бұрын

@@FanTheDeck oh! I was looking for info about Jak 2 and this was a near top result and felt like watching it lol

@FanTheDeck

Жыл бұрын

@@Zippy_Zolton nice! I love OpenGOAL and I'm stoked to see the progress for sure!

Dude it would be amazing if you keep following all the games that are being decompiled. Like this, Zelda and Mario.

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

I'd love to. I'm a big fan of stuff like this!

@niallkelly1577

2 жыл бұрын

This! Incredible video

I love how you bring up the names of the open source developers everytime, I feel like they often miss out on the recognition

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

💜 Agreed they often get left out.

Please do more videos like this. While I can't understand everything, I love some of the trivia and the history of the project. Showing how to get it run on the Deck is also super helpful-- I have to do it at some point myself and it confirmed it was almost as easy as building it for Windows.

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Can do! I loved making this video and would be open to making more like this

@Castcoder

2 жыл бұрын

@@FanTheDeck I wonder if anyone in future projects might be willing to do an interview to get a grasp of what their thought process, design philosophy, struggles, etc. were when making the projects.

Great video, probably the most technically accurate and informative one since the project has blown up in popularity as well! Hopefully it won't be 2 years until we can play Jak 2 :)

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Vaser! That means a lot. And thank you for answering my inline assembly question in the discord! And yeah you guys worked super fast on Jak and are already making quick progress with 2. But I didn't want to put any undue pressure on y'all.

This is awesome, because I feel like Jak doesn't get enough love nowadays. Not new to decomps But this one is definitely special, I mean. Reverse engineering, documenting and creating a FOSS version of a bespoke programming language only used by one studio? That's some _serious_ work. And I do hope you cover more projects like this, bet it's a nice change of pace for yourself too

2:14 M1 is also an arm chip but most just call it apple silicon for the brand.

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's my fault! Thank you!

While I am personally not that interested in the game itself (I was more into Sly Cooper honestly). I am beyond impressed at the level of dedication these people have had making a port like this. I am very looking forward to seeing what more potential decompiled games that may appear in the future! Great video, I thought this was really interesting!

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Sly was damn good! I'd love to see a native port of that.

I adored Jak and Daxter when I was a kid, I am very happy

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Such a good game!

This is absolutely insane, can't wait to see Jak 2 & 3

@JM-yq9gd

Жыл бұрын

Are you me?

Huge thanks for this video (and the teaser in the community tab). I've never heard of this project before. I really love projects like this, including the SM64, OoT and Banjo-Kazzoie decomps. When the SM64 decomp leaked (where the project was in a state before it was ready to be shown off), it was a must have for me. Jak and Dexter is one of my favorite PS2 games, so this is a must have as well :) As for the video itself, I like it a lot. I did a bit of my own research about the whole project and (Open)GOAL, but your explanation is a great summary. The history part was also informative. Definitely a must-share kind of video. As you'd mention that you are very interested in these projects, I'd love to see some follow-up on how the project progresses or coverage about other decomp stuff (like SM64, where you can rebuild changes into a N64 ROM or as a PC port). One thing about the checksum you put in the description: Please mention that it's a sha1 sum. I've dumped my PS2 collection some years ago and looked if I have the right iso file. But I was unsure what type of checksum that is. I've tried crc32, sha256, sha512, md5 and even sha224, but none matched. The redump page listss your checksum as sha1 as well as other algorithms, and luckily my dump is the correct one.

Hey i appreciate the quick step by step to set it up on the deck. Flawless. Thanks for that!

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it worked out! You're welcome!

I love these kind of videos similar to MVG's. Please keep making them this is amazing!

Awesome video! and my greatest respect for you mentioning the dev names. I'm also a small contributor on another decompilation project like this. Maybe in the future, we can share what we've accomplished to the Steamdeck community too!

I stumbled on to this project a week ago and have been loving playing around with the test builds. Perfect time for a video like this to get the word out.

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Yeah I've been enjoying this quite a bit

Awesome video! This is by far the best explanation of GOAL and the project - thanks for covering it!

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you water! And thanks for the amazing work on open GOAL and this port.

Great video! Have always been fascinated by GOAL ever since I read about it years ago.

Huh.... Damn well thanks for posting this! One of my first PS2 games ever was this game, I can still remember playing the game for the first time as a kid and being confused how to move with the analog controls, being I had turned off by accident. I really can't wait to play this port myself, this game holds a special place in my heart!

Holy shit how did I miss this? One of my favourite Jump & Run games of all time. Amazing work from the people involved! And thank you for making me aware too! You earned a sub just for this alone :)

LOVE this style of video. I’m always fascinated by developers doing this sort of legwork and have incredible appreciation for them.

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Me too. Glad that it resonated with others too!

Apparently the 3rd game is almost done, hopefully you can please do an updated video on how to install them 🙏. Appreciate the steam deck tutorial

Great video. One small correction m1 is arm based

with you using the terminal and split file manager, you're becoming a pro lol. great video, id love to see GOAL be used for new games in the future too, there are probably many devs that have wanted to use LISP for games and this is exactly that.

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

😂 Split file manager is definitely the business! Yeah agreed - I'd love to see it happen

@genericgamer1319

2 жыл бұрын

​@@FanTheDeck also I've noticed you use multiple tabs open if you wanna copy/move/link a file to the folder open in a tab just drag said file to the tab & also if you want a quick terminal you can just press f4 in dolphin it will open a terminal pane at the bottom in this terminal dolphin moves you to whatever folder you are currently in & it moves with dolphin as you browse arround if you got multiple panes open it will move to the active pane i also got a few more tips if you wanna know

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

@@genericgamer1319 TIL you can drag to a tab. Thanks! Re: open in terminal - I always show the right-click for the benefit of the viewer. Similar for F10/New Folder and F2/Rename.

@genericgamer1319

2 жыл бұрын

@@FanTheDeck another feature you might wanna use is the application dashboard it's a widget you could replace the current app launcher with it or add it to the panel alongside the normal app launcher(kickoff) it's similar to the one in mac os it should be a bit easier to use on the deck to add it you can just right click kickoff(lower left corner) select show alternatives & select application dashboard if you just wanna add it to a panel or desktop just right click somewhere panel or desktop select add widget & you can find it there & drag it wherever you want it

I've had issues with the more recent versions. I had to revert back to v0.1.13. Had extractor permissions denied on 0.1.21 for some reason..and 15+ I had issues getting it to launch.

great video and even better insight.

Excellent video! As a programmer and gamedev enthusiast I've always been fascinated by GOAL, even trying my hand at decompiling the game myself to make it playable on PC but other fine folks beat me to it :P Jak & Daxter was a big part of my childhood so I'll definitely keep an eye on the project, perhaps contributing a bit when I have time

@alexisaguirrevazquez7900

Жыл бұрын

You can still help them if you want to. There's some polish that needs to be done and there's still Jak 2 and 3 to be worked on.

Now that Q3 is starting, I would love a new video from you about what near-future owners of the Steam Deck should know about since your last video aimed at Q2 users

FYI: Jak II is in a beta phase, and runs great on the deck. The team even has a decky plugin to make installing easier.

Bruh this is my favorite game of ALL TIME, legit ordered a Steam Deck dreaming of this port being up to play one day! I have no clues at all how I'll get it to run (I don't know shit about emulating and programming) but I'll make it happen this Fall!!! super super stoked!

Months later and goal did amazing work with the original game, & now with further progress: the reality of seeing Haven City properly on PC, in its full glory, is surreal to me. One can only imagine if/when the Sly games get the same treatment, especially the 2nd & 3rd ones.

Great video! One thing I’ve been trying to get going is the Scarface remastered project so maybe you could look at that next?

This content is awsome! More of those "history" lessons plz. It will also give you another way for your channel once the deck flare wears out. You explainned so well that i understood everything. And i am a hello world error level of programming (none).

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Ah that means a lot! I'm glad it resonated with someone that doesn't know programming!

Installed rpcs3 just to play the PS3 HD release of this so Thank You for this video! This, Stubbs The Zombie and Mame Shinobi - and Im happy 🙂

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

RPCS3 is great! I like this native port of Jak better than the PS3 version but hey whatever you prefer!

Another company that made their own language and developed games in it was Infocom. They made text adventure games in ZIL - Zork Implementation Language. It was also a form of Lisp. It has also been reverse-engineered. Two times actually. The virtual machine was remade in the 90's and the language itself in the last ten years. Someone leaked the source code for the entire catalog of games, which helped with reverse engineering. More recently, Inkle Studios made their own language to make "Heaven's Vault" and "Overboard". They open-sourced the language.

Time to search my old PS2 Game Box in the Basement and praying it is the right version. I loved those games and playing them again would be awesome.

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Yesssss

I think about this thing every day and night! It's a phenomenon I want to see more often!

I'd love to do some decompiling for old Nintendo games like Twilight Princess. It's really cool to learn a little bit more about what that process is like!

This game has a special place in my heart like if I had no memory just seeing this game would bring it all back. Shout out to the PS2

5:55 It's very important to note that this is no longer the case as compilers are _orders of magnitude_ better at optimizing code nowadays, to where you should assume on average that if something is slow it's just actually because you're writing obtuse code

I'm glad this showed up in my youtube feed. I installed the game and enjoying it so far.

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Happy to hear that! Were you a fan growing up?

@DarkSlayerAA

2 жыл бұрын

@@FanTheDeck , I indeed was. I owned and played "daxter" and then "jak and daxter: the lost frontier" on psp. I loved those games. Same goes to ratchet and clank games

I actually happen to have a black label copy of Jak and Daxter. It's my favorite platformer ever. I'll definitely play this amazing looking port. The team doing this work is amazing. Thanks for shining a spotlight on them!

@alexisaguirrevazquez7900

Жыл бұрын

I only have the greatest hits version sadly. I'd love to get a black label to play this version. Heard nothing but good things about it.

This is very educational. I will definitely watch more videos like this.

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Nice thanks!

This was such an interesting story. Thanks!

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Thank you for the great video!! I finally manage to make this work properly on my Deck! Another thing, when they eventually release jak 2 and 3 how do I launch the games and add them to steam?

Their decompilation versions have been going so quickly exactly to my taste. This video isn't even two days old and there's already a new version out

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Ah I hear you. I don't have notifications for the repos and I just check for new versions when I feel like it. But yeah, that means I might miss out on new features until I check back in.

It's amazing to see games with yet another layer of preservation.

Hey man long time fan of your content! Can you do a video on setting up Syncthing to have games sync save files with non steam games like Minecraft please? 😁

Really informative video

For anyone trying to install this now, or just updating their install to the latest version you have to add the following to launch options to get this to work with the newer versions: LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8" %command%

This is very awesome and interesting project, I have actually been talking to Water111 and the other devs about issues while doing bug reports and compiling Linux x64, x86 32bit and Arm64 but currently sadly it's not yet possible due to x68_64 address pointers and being currently stuck to only x86_64. Hopefully this could change in the future with more community support so the games will be more cross compatible.

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Oh that's good to know! Cool that you've been talking to the devs!

These video are always amazing because I imagine people using older games as base for modern indie

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely true!

Big fan of your channel keep doing this you are Amazing

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Johan!!!!

Imagine in an alternate timeline = Proton is a software that is all about Decompilation of PC/Console/Handheld games powered by a sentient AI which will allow for the creation of Native Linux PC versions.

Is the grip accessory pictured in your thumbnail available? I’ve been looking for something like that.

Using PCSX2 on steam deck, I was able to get Jack and Daxter to run fairly stable at 60fps on 6x resolution (4k) Since this isn't being emulated do you think it'd be possible to get the resolution up to 5k?

🔥Just finished Jak 2 with the PC Port

I am so glad i can play these games at 1600p on the Lenovo legion go

The HD textures look great, did someone make them using an AI upscaler? Would explain how they got it out so quick. Be amazing to see that in Jak 2 and 3 too.

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know for sure but this was my guess as well.

@shadowlordalpha

Жыл бұрын

As far as I am aware no. But they were working on it for a while from basically the first runnable versions

The game is better than I thought

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Nice!

I paid for my deck this morning. I'm looking forward to having a hand held with a bit of power.

I have some experience with writing lispcode, I had a look at the (open)GOAL language and I can definitely understand why the Devs liked it, if I ever try to write a game it will probably be in some Lisp dialect (probably something like fennel)

Finished The Precursor Legacy emulated just before I learned about this, instead of moving to 2, I will wait for it to be finished and replay the series with this port.

Really interesting video. I wonder if interest in goal may lead to an ide for game dev. I hope so.

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Oh so they also developed a VS Code extension for GOAL! github.com/open-goal/opengoal-vscode

I clocked that games on pc yesterday best experience

apple M1 and M2 is also arm and the Wii U WII and Gamecube have a PowerPC CPU that was also used in Old macs and still are used in IBM Z Server Systems

You don't actually need that specific version, was able to get it working with a limited edition EU release by changing some values on their database

This is great news cuz ive been playing jak 3 on my steam deck through pcsx2

Interesting topic, I like it!

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Micky!

Impressive video. Sadly there is no more videos about the programming language for me to dig into on KZread

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

That's part of why I decided to make this high level video. There is documentation here however: open-goal.github.io/docs/intro

great video, only critique is apply explanation to something real world. example: 4:12 section where you discussed automated decomplilation may not always translate could say something along the lines of, "imagine in school lunch you get in line that is always tacos, however you get your plate and they give burrito. You are getting mexican food however its not what you wanting." even then could have a better example, but its the whole "explain it like im 5" idea

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Good feedback - thanks!

this is the dream

My deck is out for delivery. What are your best recommendations of 3-4 videos for first time Linux user for sd general use/plugins/emulation/setup? Hoping I can get Firefox, Discord, Spotify(?), ExpressVPN, and retroarch setup on day one...

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Dude! I'm happy you're getting a Deck soon! Here are some recs: My Q2 Review. Some stuff is out of date and I'll have a Q3 Review soon but I point to other KZreadrs and things like that kzread.info/dash/bejne/foye07OmoJmWY5M.html My EmuDeck Mega Guide. Easily the best way to get started with emulation kzread.info/dash/bejne/c6qutaqxk8bTeco.html My mod video for an idea of what sort mods are possible (esp. PluginLoader) kzread.info/dash/bejne/gn2DpMR7aLW6dqw.html Other than that, please check out other YT channels and see what you like. Namely: Gardiner Bryant, Deck Ready, and Gaming on Linux. They always have awesome Steam Deck videos. I have more guides coming soon (e.g. adding non-steam games), but I don't really like to make guides until I feel super confident on the subject so my guides usually come out later than other people. Enjoy the Steam Deck!

@xDARKSHADEx

2 жыл бұрын

@@FanTheDeck Thanks, I got my email last Thursday, (my rt was 1:04 after preorders opened for US 512) it's been one been one heck of a ride... I'm extremely excited though! Thanks for your recommendations and keep up the great content! Would love to see videos on the other retro decomp projects, running on deck maybe? Edit: and unbiased deck accessory opinion videos, cases, skins, docks, 3D printed things, external storage etc... I'll definitely be looking to get a USB c to network plus PD adapter as my first accessory.

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

@@xDARKSHADEx I often have accessories in my description but to address your specific asks: - I don't use any Steam Deck cases so can't really comment there. JSAUX has one with a kickstand that is neat but I haven't actually tried it yet - Docks: I talk about this in my accessories video which is "old" now but it's still pretty applicable. The main thing to look for is video bandwidth and the specific features you want (e.g. HDMI, DisplayPort, ethernet). I have a link in my description to a dock that can do up to 4k30. That means that at lower than 4k resolutions, it can do 60fps no problem but if you're docking to a 4k display it's going to max out at 30fps - 3D Printed Things & Skins - check out the mod video I linked where I cover this. Skins are tougher to install than they appear but with patience it should be no problem. There are etsy stores with custom skins, like Moskeeto who has awesome designs. - External storage - one thing a lot of people don't consider is getting an internal nvme plus an nvme enclosure. These things work well and can grow with you. - Good point on a separate power adapter. I use my second power adapter more than the one that came with the Deck. It's got a longer chord and charges faster.

@MaxDad7

2 жыл бұрын

@@xDARKSHADEx I noticed at my local Walmart that there are ONN USB-C docks that had PD up to 65 (or maybe it was 95) watts. I don't know on resolution output, but it's only $50 and might be worth a look. I've used ONN SD cards, mice, speakers, and cables; they've all been solid so far.

@MaxDad7

2 жыл бұрын

The Discover store in desktop mode will have Firefox, Discord, Spotify, and Retroarch as a flatpak ready to install with one click and they work just fine. Instead of Retroarch, I'd look at setting up EmuDeck. Apparently it has things already setup (I assume even BIOS files, which are usually a no-no, but it's convenient for the end user). I'd personally use an SD card for your emulated games instead of eating up your NVMe drive.

I just loven the OpenGOAL project. I bought the Game 2 times, but never got warm with it. It was just a, yeah it is a nice Game, but I am not really interested in it. Then OpenGOAL came and I saw there is a Randomizer for it. This made me do a entire playtrough liking the Game start playing Randomizer and now, I played it nearly everyday. I just fall in love with the Game.

This is a great port and just beat it yesterday. Jak and daxter was my favorite series as a kid and no matter how hard I've tried I just don't care for any of Naughty Dog's later games. But It'll be awesome to see original ratchet and clank ports using open goal as Naughty Dog shared the engine with Insomniac games.

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

That's awesome! Yeah this port is great

@mdude3

2 жыл бұрын

They did not share the engines. Common misinformation! Very few opengoal code (the bare bones of a couple of the renderers). can be used for Ratchet & Clank.

Man i love this, Just like what happend with Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time But the difference is that *this* is way bigger

Oh man I'm q3 and still watched every sing!e one of your videos lol

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

mrDOM! 🔥

Apple's M1 _is_ ARM. ARM64 specifically, although today 32 bit ARM devices are getting rare so that specification isn't super important. The M1 chips are wiping the floor with other ARM chips and even powerful x86-64. Microsoft also has it's own ARM architecture but it's really weak and i hope they develop a powerful ARM chip with Qualcomm to answer Apple's threat. I mean they have the SQ1 but it's not even close.

This was/is just such a great game.

so.. think they are gonna add a checklist .txt file with the trophy names just to say they have trophies to just outdo the ps3 version.

I've always preferred Naughty Dog's pre-PS3 work. Uncharted and Last of Us were ok games, but they just didn't have that same charm.

Does the music work?

Is the Q3 emails going out today as steam said the Q3 emails are going out on the 30th but does that mean today or next month on the 30th ?

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Should be today. 2.5 hours! I'll post an update on Twitter a little bit after that.

@musicduckz7613

2 жыл бұрын

@@FanTheDeck I cant wait as im in the Q3 list hopefully I get my email today as iv been waiting for ever and iv watched all your videos about the steam deck and im a huge fan of the device and your channel thanks for telling me as iv been asking around all day for when the emails are coming out today and none has gave me a response so thank you 😁👍

The M1 is an ARM chip.

I hope this PC port get port to PS Vita like super mario 64

amazing shit

Its the only naughty dog game I played and will play.

Could you please do a similar video tutorial for Mario 64? Pulling my hair out trying to get it to work. Nothing is working for me.

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Sure I can do that. I think Hi Tech Lo Life already has a steam Deck tutorial too.

I really hope something like this happens with other titles. pcsx2 emulation sucks for a vast majority of games, even more so if you wanna tweak the graphic settings. As of making this post Jax 3 is currently being decompiled. jak 1 and 2 are good to go.

I was going to suggest just doing a `git clone` and a periodic `git pull`, but then I thought about how much it sucks to recompile every time, and how long that can take. On the other hand, Steam OS is an Arch derivative, so doing that would be apropos. I wonder if anyone has considered making a Flatpak for this.

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

In the Discord they've said they'll eventually have appimages. Also can't really compile on a Steam Deck. I mean you can but it's more work than you think and involves writing to the read-only portion of the filesystem, meaning it may get wiped by updates.

2:16 isn't apple m1 actually ARM?

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that was a mistake on my part!

A small correction - Apple M1 IS an ARM processor

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! You're absolutely right

Jak 2 has finally released are you going to talk about it?

The thumbnail shows a PlayStation button layout on the Steam Deck. 🤷‍♂️

more videos like this. emulated MVG is ONLY a good thing

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

MVG is 👑 but I'm happy to do videos like this that he might not do haha

The m1 chip is an arm cpu

I think it's 'built from scratch' not scraps. xD Unless of course it was Frankensteined together by copy/pasting from various code from various users online.

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

It's normally built from scratch but in this case the assembly and debug info existed so I said it was built from scraps haha

I wonder if someone will mod sm64 mario into this game

Honestly I rank the Jak franchise (or rather the main trilogy) very high up, honestly better than Crash Bandicoot in my opinion. My interest in the trilogy second with the second game although as a kid I could never beat it, eventually I went back to it and became interested in the third game, then a few years later I finally played the first game via emulation on PCSX2. I enjoyed all three although preferred the second and third games. Definitely do love TPL and plan on replaying it soon, just because it's fun. But yeah

I never played jack but i have to

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

It's really good!

the same happened with halflive .

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

what do you mean?

@timeTegus

2 жыл бұрын

@@FanTheDeck the source game engen was recreated for Android. Now u can play source games on android

@FanTheDeck

2 жыл бұрын

@@timeTegus Ah yes gotcha!