The Fall of Thomas Paine: The Rights of Man and The Age of Reason

In the first video Christian Murray examined Thomas Paine's rise to fame. Here he looks at Paine's activities after the American Revolution, his troubles in England, his exile, and nearly losing his life for being too moderate during the French Revolution.

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  • @davidmuita7253
    @davidmuita72532 жыл бұрын

    Paine was way ahead of his time and will one day be rehabilitated by history and rightfully recognised

  • @G-T

    @G-T

    Жыл бұрын

    I doubt that very much, he was antichrist!

  • @ogedeh

    @ogedeh

    Жыл бұрын

    Hope so, but hard to imagine

  • @Pan_Z

    @Pan_Z

    Жыл бұрын

    Paine openly advocated for a movement which transformed from fraternity, equality, and liberty into blood, terror, and tyranny. Paine was naive and incorrect, not knowing the horrifying place his ideas would lead.

  • @jodywho6696
    @jodywho66969 ай бұрын

    Thank You President Monroe. My opinion about the silence of the people of power, who knew about the imprisonment of Paine, has gone the same route of their moral compass. ✨🇺🇸✨

  • @jodywho6696

    @jodywho6696

    9 ай бұрын

    I'd like the list of said people. Washington Adams Madison Jefferson.....✨🇺🇸✨

  • @wpridgen4853
    @wpridgen4853 Жыл бұрын

    An honest man has few friends..

  • @jodywho6696
    @jodywho66969 ай бұрын

    Thank you for bringing this to the attention it deserves✨🇺🇸✨

  • @jeremyhennessee6604
    @jeremyhennessee6604 Жыл бұрын

    Good job with this. I have always been fascinated by the Paine chapter in History. Most only cover the basics and move on. So I LOVE the fact you included the Irony of his Ending.

  • @jeremyhennessee6604
    @jeremyhennessee66047 ай бұрын

    Coming back almost one yr later to say i believe this to be one of the MOST underrated channels on all of KZread man. Sincerely. You're great. And I wish you the highest possible success sir.

  • @rancdrizzle775
    @rancdrizzle775 Жыл бұрын

    I think that T. Paine was well named; a real pain. He held a grudge with Washington because W. would not condone his release from the French. He gave no quarter, a real quarrelsome fellow. But I have to admire him for his honesty, determination and 'The Age of Reason'.

  • @jodywho6696

    @jodywho6696

    9 ай бұрын

    Washington was a land grabber. He was a lousy general. The only thing I can say positive is he listened to others about the what move to take his army. It's always about the money power and the women

  • @afterhourscinema782
    @afterhourscinema782 Жыл бұрын

    Thomas Paine was *TOO BASED* for his time

  • @moshekallam1070

    @moshekallam1070

    9 ай бұрын

    A Paine in the arses of despots, the ultimate gadfly

  • @robinharwood5044
    @robinharwood50446 ай бұрын

    Paine is the Englishman who invented the USA.

  • @therealmilesanderson
    @therealmilesanderson Жыл бұрын

    A man ahead of his time, a huge contributor to the US Constitution and a true believer in the Oneness of God. My absolute hero.

  • @dovh49
    @dovh495 күн бұрын

    I've heard that Thomas Paine recanted, or regretted at least, writing Age of Reason. Is that true?

  • @TREUMER0304703199
    @TREUMER03047031992 жыл бұрын

    Reflecting how hubris, anxiety and at least revenge to some affiliation in Britain, enforced Paine to increase the situational revolutionary conflict at peril analogously with his thoughts of goverment and self-interest, indeed when do we need to stop a revolution and violence of mind so then moving toward a state of devolution amid de-escalation......

  • @matthewmccracken5179

    @matthewmccracken5179

    Жыл бұрын

    Check yourself, find faults and rejoin the table because your not thinking rationally

  • @TREUMER0304703199

    @TREUMER0304703199

    Жыл бұрын

    @@matthewmccracken5179 Indeed check yourself....what is your rational argument?

  • @andrewcanady6644

    @andrewcanady6644

    11 ай бұрын

    This is an interesting question.

  • @andrewcanady6644

    @andrewcanady6644

    11 ай бұрын

    I’m going to give this some thought. The reason your question appeals to me is that I struggle with a history of violence. I was in the military for twenty years. I believed my government when they pointed at “the enemy” and told me my nation was threatened. I fully submitted to a brainwashing since I was a youth, not understanding that that’s what was happening. Now, in retrospect obviously, I can see it all much clearer. Like a bird flying way overhead seeing simultaneously how all my paths and trails connected. I’m not very disturbed by it all for a few good reasons, and I thank The Great Spirit for this. The most important reason was that when I was young I was introduced to The Tao Te Ching, and I had a love of Nature. Nature was my guru, you could say. Anyway, I suppose I’m rambling. I’d like to try to consider your question and share a reply worth a read. I’ll try to find some time. I’m taking a university class in our glorious Revolution now, and I’m fascinated by its genesis. Hope this finds you well. 🤙🏾🇺🇸⚓️

  • @jodywho6696

    @jodywho6696

    9 ай бұрын

    @@andrewcanady6644 You are a beautiful soul. I love learning about the TRUTH also. Happy Trails✨🇺🇸✨💙✨😊

  • @berryscott3590
    @berryscott359010 ай бұрын

    Where's the link to the original video cited?

  • @americaninstituteofphiloso1588

    @americaninstituteofphiloso1588

    10 ай бұрын

    What original video are you referring to?

  • @berryscott3590

    @berryscott3590

    10 ай бұрын

    There was an earlier video in the series sited, which I found... Can't recall the details just now... But thanks for asking... PEACE OUT @@americaninstituteofphiloso1588

  • @chrisbaker7858
    @chrisbaker78588 ай бұрын

    T-Paine was a "G" of his time for sure

  • @kitbigelowful
    @kitbigelowful Жыл бұрын

    I thought it was Thomas Jefferson that got him out of the French prison.

  • @danlhendl
    @danlhendl9 ай бұрын

    It was the this of that! it was the that of this! it was over here! It was over there! It was the first yellow house on the left! It was the first yellow house on the right. it must have been difficult for the mail man

  • @BrianMChampion
    @BrianMChampion11 ай бұрын

    Theodore Roosevelt once called Payne "a filthy little atheist."

  • @andrewcanady6644

    @andrewcanady6644

    11 ай бұрын

    Really? Theo and the rest of us owe that man a debt of gratitude. The way he inspired our young, magnificent fighting rebels is itself inspiring. And was he an atheist? Or just not an Abrahamic? I’d be willing to bet Theo didn’t understand Paine’s spirituality. Hope you’re having a good day. 🤙🏽🇺🇸

  • @jodywho6696

    @jodywho6696

    9 ай бұрын

    Teddy shot animals for fun and to make up his lack of manhood

  • @davedanger4414

    @davedanger4414

    15 күн бұрын

    @@andrewcanady6644 He believed in "a god". But he did not like the church or organized religion. He saw it as a means of control, manipulation and thievery. The major reason no one showed up to his funeral is because of his ridicule of Christianity.

  • @andrewcanady6644

    @andrewcanady6644

    15 күн бұрын

    @@davedanger4414 Interesting. I didn’t know that. I’m deeply, widely ignorant about much.

  • @davedanger4414

    @davedanger4414

    15 күн бұрын

    @@andrewcanady6644 We all are. I didn't know much about Thomas Paine until recently lol

  • @zhubajie6940
    @zhubajie694010 ай бұрын

    I think he was the greatest advocate for reason and government. Unfortunately both in the U.S. and in France, they for a time became a cult of personality of Washington and Robespierre. One too conservative in the case of the U.S. and one to radical in the case of France.

  • @RustyJoe
    @RustyJoe Жыл бұрын

    A great if not the greatest libertarian philosopher. Until me anyway 😏

  • @jodywho6696

    @jodywho6696

    9 ай бұрын

    Haha. You got me. And I agree ✨🇺🇸✨💙✨

  • @juliatafolla2816
    @juliatafolla28167 ай бұрын

    Tomas Dolores. ... It's a different story ..written in Spanish...

  • @marlenarguedas5373
    @marlenarguedas5373 Жыл бұрын

    Thomas Paine sabe my mind in a Trip Biden era today 5/18/2023

  • @Pan_Z
    @Pan_Z Жыл бұрын

    We should remember Thomas Paine's works for what they were: inspirational & naive. His writings serve both as a guide for Liberal societies, and a warning for when revolutionary action is based upon abstraction too divorced from reality.

  • @perperson199
    @perperson1999 ай бұрын

    Burke is right

  • @jodywho6696

    @jodywho6696

    9 ай бұрын

    He was paid off to go against Paine

  • @videogamecin

    @videogamecin

    2 ай бұрын

    Paine is left

  • @RichardKoenigsberg
    @RichardKoenigsberg4 ай бұрын

    Too much on the French Revolution. Does not recognize the profound significance of Paine's pamphlet. Sounds like he's on the side of the British.

  • @zealandzen
    @zealandzen Жыл бұрын

    Lest rhymes with best.

  • @theunintelligentlydesigned4931
    @theunintelligentlydesigned493110 ай бұрын

    The more I learn about him, the more disappointed I am with him. A lot of Thomas' best ideas came from his father. The father of Thomas Paine should have been one of the founding fathers of America. Thomas Paine himself rejected a lot of his father's wisdom and that's why he struggled so much in life.

  • @jeremiahh.3383

    @jeremiahh.3383

    9 ай бұрын

    Wrong because Thomas gave reason to how he arrived at his conclusions. Try reading them up or hearing about them and it'll be very easy to see what led to those conclusions.

  • @theunintelligentlydesigned4931

    @theunintelligentlydesigned4931

    9 ай бұрын

    @@jeremiahh.3383 What I'm saying is that Paine probably learned those reasons from his father. The reason I'm saying this is because when you look at his life overall, Thomas didn't live by the same ideals that he proposed in his own writing.

  • @jeremiahh.3383

    @jeremiahh.3383

    9 ай бұрын

    @@theunintelligentlydesigned4931 None of us live to then some degree. How far off was life style in comparison to what he wrote?

  • @theunintelligentlydesigned4931

    @theunintelligentlydesigned4931

    9 ай бұрын

    @@jeremiahh.3383 Well for example, he became a pirate. He also engaged in some shady business dealings. He also hated George Washington. In his life, he showed that he wasn't so much pro-republic as much as he was anti-British and anti-Authoritarian. That is why he wrote to encourage revolution FROM Britain. You could characterize him as an anarchist. I'm not saying that his writings are bad. His writing are wonderful. I just think his father deserves a lot of the credit. Thomas' work would have been better if he had listened more to his father. Instead, Thomas died alone, hated by many of the founding fathers.

  • @jodywho6696

    @jodywho6696

    9 ай бұрын

    @@theunintelligentlydesigned4931 your call name suits you perfectly

  • @cynthiarowley719
    @cynthiarowley719 Жыл бұрын

    Lousy ending question.

  • @regurgitationstation960

    @regurgitationstation960

    Жыл бұрын

    So how would you remember him?

  • @jodywho6696

    @jodywho6696

    9 ай бұрын

    I guess you don't have an opinion of your own

  • @DD-sz8nw
    @DD-sz8nw9 ай бұрын

    Thomas Paine's life should serve as a warning to people who reject the Word of God as mere myths. Thomas Paine's thinking reflects only the common drift of the enlightenment, casting aside truth from the Bible, and exalting the mind of man and his freedom to govern himself. We see the fruit of this ideology all around us. Look at social media, and what most people spout, that they are master of their own destiny. That is what their enlightened reason brought them, no hope for eternity, and that they are only earthly, and speak of the earth, which all of this is just passing away, as Jesus said. It makes me sad to learn that many of our founding fathers were blind to what God's Word truly teaches, and who Jesus Christ is and was. "Person of Interest" by J. Warner Wallace, is a great book. Jesus Christ of Nazareth, Immanuel, עמנואל, with us - God, the only true and living God in the form of a man, of whom all of western society reflects the impact that this one single man has had multiples of times above all the other scholars and leaders combined down through time. Even Napoleon Bonaparte recognized this distinction in who Jesus was. Read his quotes.

  • @jeremiahh.3383

    @jeremiahh.3383

    9 ай бұрын

    When one reads or hears their evidence based reasoning behind their opinions it becomes much easier to understand how they had little choice but to arrive at those opinions.

  • @jodywho6696

    @jodywho6696

    9 ай бұрын

    You judge. You believe what men wrote. A sheep among wolves

  • @jeremiahh.3383

    @jeremiahh.3383

    9 ай бұрын

    @@jodywho6696 Who is this in response to, me or him?

  • @gvlive

    @gvlive

    8 ай бұрын

    Paine surgically dismantled the fairy tale upon which you base your existence. You make sweeping, vague clichés which serve to underscore the fact that you have not troubled yourself to put your own superstitions to the test.

  • @videogamecin

    @videogamecin

    2 ай бұрын

    On the contrary, any contemporary social problem you present as a negative outcome of the enlightenment is actually caused by people not thinking for themselves and not questioning how they're governed by states/corporations/religion