Forgot to mention in the video; the size large we tested weighed just over 30 lbs (13.kgs) without pedals.

Thank you KZread algorithm. This is exactly the kind of hardtail I've been searching for.

@99spokes

16 күн бұрын

Heck yeah, glad you found it!

Cool bike, personally like the surly lowside. Definitely rides like a 27.5” bmx and is $1499 USD. And with rear dropouts can run SS or geared with the hanger.

@99spokes

Ай бұрын

Nice! I’ve always thought those look fun! It’s pretty similar to a bike Fairdale already makes, the Taj

@psyde

19 күн бұрын

@@99spokes rides like a 27.5 meaning they come in 29s?

Great video Josh, super informative, as always. Love seeing rad steel hardtails!!

@99spokes

Ай бұрын

Thanks Josh, glad you enjoyed it! We just got a TransAM in for review that I’m stoked to throw a leg over!!

They had me... until you said "$3,299" for a hard tail made from 100% chromoly with external cabling and a mediocre fork. HARD PASS on the complete build, but the $500 frame is a much better option for me too.

@99spokes

Ай бұрын

Yeah, frame only definitely seems the way to go here if you’re decent with a wrench

@ROSE-by5su

Ай бұрын

Nothing wrong with external cabling lmao such a noobie thing thinking Internal will make it much better. Also its chromoly lets make it Internal cabling to blast more water inside to build up rust. Yappin at the price signs you are a newbie this prices are pretty normal there are tons of companies out there putting unreasonable price at your product

@zacknagel827

Ай бұрын

I was about to say, we’re asking full suspension carbon 29er money.

@Jean-jk4zv

29 күн бұрын

This

@SixGunTodd

28 күн бұрын

​​@@ROSE-by5suin my mind a "noob" is someone willing to shoot down domeone else's valid concern with some oversimplified troll esque response. While this bike may appeal to a market willing to pay the afore mentioned price there already exists several other options much deeper into the appropriatly priced range (Marin San Quentin, Kona Honzo, Big Honzo, etc.) I'm not sure if you're aware....but the bike industry is currently experiencing some upheaval that's dramatically effecting prices, might want to have your finger on the pulse of things before you regrettably say something that can't be substantiated.

When I bought my first mtb in 1990 I had to keep my Mongoose Californian for jumps and tricks. Fast forward to today- I take all of my full squish mtbs from everything like trails to DH lift assist parks to DJ parks and skateparks. Today’s mtbs are so good. Nice review. WAY too pricey for a hardtail. Frame only though is priced right. Surprised they didn’t at least go mullet even if not full 27.5.

This bike looks soo awesome! I would ride it on XC trails just to have fun!

@99spokes

Ай бұрын

Oh man it absolutely is! Makes boring trails fun again haha!

@LaurentiusTriarius

Ай бұрын

I'd have to sell the Honzo but the frame price is pretty darn interesting, anyway the Honzo is wonderful but tbh what I wanted from it was more dirt jumper dna...

Ironically I was just looking at this on their site then the YT algorithm sent you to me. Glad to see you again. Great overview of the bike. I also agree on the pricing situation, as a frame that is a great price but as a complete...not so much.

@99spokes

Ай бұрын

Hey, glad you found it! Yes, bummer on complete pricing. I can’t help but wonder if they’re getting a higher rate for OEM parts since they’re surely making smaller orders. But that’s just a thought on my end

if it was a 26" i'd be in love.

This seems like the perfect bike for rays imo

@carterschichtel9678

Ай бұрын

Too big of wheels. Other then that looks awesome

Surly k-monk mini mullet is the way.

Nice! I can recommend the Ghost Nirvana 4X as well.

Looks nice.

The geo still looks far to laid back to be bmx influenced imo. This is more of an alternative to the current trends. 26" bikes and builds would be most beneficial to near everyone imo due to how varied and established they are, with prices that have dropped off a cliff, and then you're still not trying to lug around and trick a huge 29" bike. 32x spokes on a 29" supposed trick bike, yeah but no.

I was looking forward to this review. I wished they made a small wheeled version too. I’m surprised it’s stiff for steel. Do you have any bike or frame weights? Good work on the review and the comparison between the Elevator and your personal bike(which happens to be mine too)

@99spokes

Ай бұрын

Oh shoot, totally blew including that in the video! My size large weighed 30 lbs on the dot (13.6 kgs) without pedals. Not bad for a steel hardtail with mid-level spec! I bet you could get this under 28 lbs pretty easily

It's beautiful 😍

Good Vid! Do you think a rider that is 5 foot ten with size 10 feet is going to have any issues with clipping the derailleuer?

I love this drops in the middlechild's territory. I 'd love to own both.

@99spokes

Ай бұрын

For sure!!

you should compare this to the Poseidon Norton. specially the frame only build

@99spokes

Ай бұрын

That would be an interesting one!

My £$£$ is waiting for a mini mullet version! 29 is dead :'D

@99spokes

Ай бұрын

That’d be rad!!

Can you do a video on how geometry of the bike can help people decide if they are looking for a trail, xc, down hill, cross country, down country, commuter, all a-rounder. Then add in the bike talk on what progressive is and aggressive, flowee , choppy, skips, bouncee , responsive and what ever else people may say to describe a bikes performance. I road bikes since I was a kid. 43 years old and it sounds like everybody is speaking a different language. I come from the red line, Diamond back and mongoose error of bmx.

@99spokes

Ай бұрын

We did haha! Check it out: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qYp6s9qbYbi2iKw.htmlsi=Vwd77AR4aiwITSER

@lamarwilliams185

Ай бұрын

@@99spokes thanks!!!!

@eskimo4130

23 күн бұрын

The MTB world is just a giant cash grab dude. There's some good bikes out there, but damn they're expensive. A casual rider will never be that affected by small geometry changes, as long as the frame and wheel size are of a favourable size. Get down to your local good bike shop and ask questions and try some out! Or just pick up some second hand cheap bikes.

@lamarwilliams185

23 күн бұрын

@@eskimo4130 I had picked up a second hand bike a year ago. Shwinn alu comp. Maybe because I’m older. Also heavier. LOL I feel as if I’m leaning on the handle bars. I don’t recall this feeling. Even with huffys. Small changes do make a change. I purchased a thudbuster and cloud 9 seat. Now I can ride for two hours. I lost on the investment. The gears make a loud grinding sound in every gear but one. So I stay in one gear all the time. It’s a decent gear for flat ground. No hills!!! LOL

is this just a hardtail mtb or am i missing something?

@mateusseer5353

26 күн бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking.

@99spokes

25 күн бұрын

Its geometry is unlike anything else on the market right now, pretty cool to see them carve their own path rather than making another Roscoe/Growler/San Quentin/ etc.

@juaneer

16 күн бұрын

@@99spokes Is it not more like a dirt jumper with larger wheels?

I wonder if that wouldn't just be any dirtjumper? A (very) few even come with gears. Gotta put on a front brake. That's it. Maybe even with a rigid fork on? Or that one swampmaster full suspension bmx.

@99spokes

Ай бұрын

Good questions! The geometry on this bike splits the difference between a dirt jumper and a trail bike, so it’ll perform trail rides quite a bit better than a dirt jumper with a derailleur would, and be more nimble/agile than the average trail bike

When you riding the new Stanton designed by hard tail party?

@99spokes

Ай бұрын

I would love to! The Sedona seems pretty similar to the elevator, at least geometry-wise. It’d be fun to ride them back to back

@syms85

Ай бұрын

@@99spokes have you not managed to swing a leg over the Stanton yet? I thought I saw a clip with you taking to hard tail party about it?

@99spokes

Ай бұрын

I own a Switchback, but never ridden the Sedona! I did get to chat with Steve about it at Sea Otter though, sounds like there’s not a ton of frames floating around yet

this is me.

1:58 Brand new $3300 bike that already leaves scratches on the dropper tube? Oof. I'm not a princess about bikes but if I paid that much I'd be looking at the attention to detail on the rest of it.

Oof the price. Steep steep. I'd probably be interested as a frameset only I don't like the components I'd go light and strong with boutique components on a frame like that.

Can you put a ridgid fork on this bike?

@99spokes

8 күн бұрын

Yep! Just make sure you get something that's suspension corrected for the correct axle to crown length

I hope my Karate Monkey doesn't see me eyeballing the Elevator

look at those short chainstays...

But wait is the weight? :O Frame or full build.....

@99spokes

16 күн бұрын

The size large we tested weighed just over 30 lbs (13.kgs) without pedals

It seems as though this frame could accomidate 26, and 27.5 wheels and still be a great ride.

@99spokes

5 күн бұрын

BB would be pretty low!

@truckinforjesus

5 күн бұрын

@@99spokes Good point.

What in the early 2000's external headset? also, 3300$ hardtail? My Devinci Kobain Hardtail seemed expensive at 2200 and has similar geometry to this, similar build although its Deore all around so more durable, and RS 35 silver fork is a bit beefier and more BMX oriented in that mine has almost no adjustments and just plain works, I dont even think it takes air, its spring instead. My bike rides like an enormous BMX too, but not as much as my Specialized P3 but thats an obvious one as thats a Dirt Jump MTB.. Cheers for the review, I didnt know Taj made fairdale and is tackling MTB.

@99spokes

Ай бұрын

Haha it’s still an integrated headset, just doesn’t have a tapered headtube; this is actually pretty common for steel/titanium frames

No wonder the head tube is straight design..hehe

looks like stanton sedona

@99spokes

Ай бұрын

Very similar, at least geometry wise!

Straight head tube? Why?

@99spokes

16 күн бұрын

A lot of it comes down to looks to be honest! It still takes a standard tapered fork steerer tube, but you get that classic steel look

@andrewsupernova

11 күн бұрын

@@99spokes fair one, just odd since it's getting harder to find straight steerer tube forks these days 🤷🏽‍♂️

Only Medium and Large sizes …😂 I was totally hooked until, that 😢

@99spokes

Ай бұрын

Ah, bummer!

@pedromedina1802

Ай бұрын

@@99spokes any plans for small size ? 585mm top tube please, that will be great 😊

If they launch a 650b model I might switch my nukeproof scout for one of these

Just build up a frame on a 140mm fork and it rips

@99spokes

Ай бұрын

Nice!!

I think you got a brown bear in the background of some of your videos you gotta be careful!

@99spokes

16 күн бұрын

Too true lol

If it was me and at 600 frame only I think I’d call Rick and Jess from standard and just have them build me a frame

@99spokes

25 күн бұрын

Sounds like quite the hook up haha!

@nathanwilliams3839

25 күн бұрын

@99spokes I've came from a BMX background and growing up in davenport I just have a love for standard byke company lol. Price on that frame only really isn't all that bad considering what you get

Nah, buy an slopestyle bike with 26" wheels instead

@99spokes

Ай бұрын

Very different bikes haha, but both a ton of fun!

They built a trek roscoe

@99spokes

25 күн бұрын

Great bike, but a very different bike! Check out the comparison on 99spokes.com! 99spokes.com/compare?bikes=fairdale-elevator-29-hardtail-mtb-2024%2Ctrek-roscoe-9-2023

fark the mountain bike industry trying to take money outta BMX

@99spokes

25 күн бұрын

Wouldn't this be an example of the BMX industry trying to tap into the MTB industry's money?

@theshamanarchist5441

24 күн бұрын

MTB's are for posers.

Kind of like a child, but not the oldest or youngest one.

@99spokes

Ай бұрын

Yes 😂😂 we compare it to that particular child at 8:15

@NoMoney001

Ай бұрын

@@99spokeswoops! Stopped watchin too early..lol. You seem to have some good BMX knowledge. I’m in the market for an intro BMX. I wish 99spoke included BMX info. The comparison function has been VERY helpful.

@99spokes

Ай бұрын

I wish we did too 😅 I’ll pass that word on up to the big boys!

I can get a marin san quintin for way cheaper.

@99spokes

25 күн бұрын

Great bike, but a very different bike! Check out the comparison on 99spokes.com! 99spokes.com/compare?bikes=fairdale-elevator-29-hardtail-mtb-2024%2Cmarin-san-quentin-29-3-2024

$3,300 for a hardtail is absolutely insane. You could get a carbon frame YT Jeffsy Core 3 with great fox parts on it for the exact same price ($3,299). It's definitely a frame-only type of bike, seems like they just slapped random parts on it to sell for convenience to rich people who can't put a bike together for themselves. The only way this bike would make sense is if you bought only the frame. Otherwise you're better off buying a dirt jumper for $1,150 and a used dual suspension bike from 2017-2022 for $2,150 and just get two good bikes for the price of 1.

@99spokes

25 күн бұрын

The Jeffsy is an awesome bike! But I don't think there will be much crossover between folks looking for a bike like the Elevator and the Jeffsy, two tools for two jobs

I'm not a fan of 29" wheels. They look goofy to me. I know it's just a superficial thing but I'll never buy one.

@kornfieldking8479

15 күн бұрын

I'm right there with ya. 29ers are for XC and Roadies 😂

Dont Have a Real BMX Cranks, (Primo, Demolition, Odyssey, Profile Racing etc). Only MTB Cranks “Gourmet”.

Alex rims on a bmx like xc bike. These are things that make you go to hell. What a joke. Why do bike manufacturers put garbage wheels on bikes ?

😂$3000😂😂😂😂😂...fuuuuuuuk that!!!👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻

For that price, it had better come with a motor.

too expensive… and why 29“? and you should avoid mud with that mtb…. besides that, i hope they increased build quality..