I wonder what happened to Lorenzo Badoz after the expulsion. I've searched for his name, i find nothing aside from this series. He's a great loss to the Kingdom of Castile

@cindymorose6673

4 жыл бұрын

Bardoz, a man of true convictions

@gabykappscomposermariagabr749

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. So sad.

@richardsequeirateixeira

4 жыл бұрын

Most likely went to the Kingdom of Portugal

@elocriativa

3 жыл бұрын

@@richardsequeirateixeira or to Morocco or to Turkey

@richardsequeirateixeira

3 жыл бұрын

@Hope Logan The Jewry of Portugal actually managed to survive in the Portuguese colonies. I descend of the Spanish and Portuguese jews.

Expelled out of 109 countries for their nobility and honesty.

Season 1 clips of 'Isabel' with English subtitles: www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x63wki This contains all the season 1 clips that I couldn't upload on KZread (episodes 2-11, episode 13) KZread playlist with all the 'Isabel' videos with English subtitles (season 1 episode 1 and 12 + all episodes of season 2): kzread.info/head/PL8tu4F9QpC744zTT2dhG5yQBTz4K5KQoZ

Such a great loss to Spain.

@Lily1127channel

5 жыл бұрын

There were many common people amongst them, who just lived quietly and were innocents of anything. Just like the physician Lorenzo Badoz.

@kensebego199

4 жыл бұрын

Just cause some of them were involved in shady acts, it does not justify sending all of them away cause there are some who practiced honest trade

@hannahrozenberg3411

4 жыл бұрын

nguyen anh tuan yes. But now there are Jewish communities in Spain. There are people who are the descendants of Conversos who are now reconverting back to Judaism. I am a Jew going to Barcelona this summer and I plan to spend time with local Jewish communities.

@alfgui3295

4 жыл бұрын

Erm, not really, the negative consequences of the expulsion are wildly exaggerated, it's part of the Spanish black legend, which btw expelled Jews contributed to create. First, the remaining Jewish community in Spain in the 15th century was not that numerous nor really wealthy, and second, most choose conversion over exile, especially the richest.

@adge5182

3 жыл бұрын

@@kensebego199 sadly, that was not the mentality of the middle ages and modern age. Same happened to moors a century after that. They will always be Spaniards.

An then she lost the doctor who could've possibly saved her son's life smh

@cg8397

11 ай бұрын

That's on her, there was nothing to stop her from patronizing and building up Christian physicians.

@alvarortega01

5 ай бұрын

And the jews lost the Temple in Jerusalem and thousands of rats died thanks to Titus. And some years later Hadrian (born in Spain) killed Bar Kokhba and also killed almost half a million of rats in the 3rd and last war against them (they never threatened Rome again after that hahaha) smh. Spain cooking jews since time immemorial, this is why Isabel is the greatest human being of all time

Than the Ottoman sultan Bayezid II sent a boat to save them from the Catholics

6:39 y así...lo exiliados vuelven a emprender su viaje a hacía la tierra prometida que dios les dará a ellos.

@rexchiliae

3 жыл бұрын

Israel es la iglesia el actual estado de Israel es ilegítimo

@Arcadius2207

2 жыл бұрын

@@rexchiliae Israel es legitimo!! Israel es el hogar para todo cristiano y judío que busca fe en la siempre tierra prometida.

My ancestors were among the expelled.

@MegaLilli123

5 жыл бұрын

I am sorry to hear

@ronchristopermadridano9562

4 жыл бұрын

You can actually go back to Spain and become a spanish citizen. The Edict of Jews was repealed in 1968, and the descendants of the expelled Jews can go back and become a citizen

@Beardman770

4 жыл бұрын

@@ronchristopermadridano9562 i think the timeline for that just closed, I heard many Jews from South America applied.

@gabykappscomposermariagabr749

4 жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry. Ignorance, fanaticism, outright idiocy. The Jewish people were industrious and productive, of an enterprising nature. I would never have expelled them. Not to mention the fundamental fact that this act was ANTI CHRISTIAN in all its manifestations. What a tragedy. For what it means, I, as a true Christian, ask your forgiveness. I am not Spanish, but it is of no consequence. BTW, I just love sephardic music. I often listen to it.

@pepsanchez5685

4 жыл бұрын

@@gabykappscomposermariagabr749 you can't blame something from century XV ( even though it was wrong) with your mind of century XXI

I loved this series. That being said, it was a low point in the series and historically inaccurate to have Isabel blame the expulsion of the Jews from Spain on Pope Alexander who welcomed them into Rome.

@giltineful

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly and his daughter Lucrezia welcomed them in Ferrara as well.

@condelevante4

5 ай бұрын

Yes. The series though generally accurate didn’t want to paint its heroine in a bad way. The real explanation is that the ten year war against Granada and the inquisition changed her. The war was actually a crusade and she was reforming the church in parallel. The atmosphere in the country was very tense by the 1490s and Isabella had become more autocratic and more confident. It was a terrible injustice but it was done, not because she had become a Nazi, but because all her previous actions over twenty years had delivered her there.

@oasd540

Ай бұрын

@@condelevante4 this was in 1492 centuries before the nazis… how on Earth could/couldn’t Isabel have become a nazi???

@GermanRojas-wf3hr

Күн бұрын

@@condelevante4How would Isabella become a Nazi if people like Adolf Hitler described Queen Isabella as a “whore”

I don’t know much about Spanish history, but why were the Jews expelled from Castile? In this video at least, it seems that Isabella didn’t want to expel them and felt bad for doing it; is that how she really felt in real life?

@Lily1127channel

4 жыл бұрын

First of all, it must be emphasized that Castile and Isabella was not the only one and not the first country to expel Jews. It is also mentioned in the series. Austria, England and others had done it long before Isabella, but somehow it is Isabella's example which became the most (in)famous. How Castile and Isabella ended up feeling the necessity of expulsion is a very complex process. I'm certainly not an expert on the subject but that's what I know: Isabella was a deeply religious Christian woman who generally thought Christians better/above non-christians (religious discrimination was a common thing in the Middle Ages, but it's not so rare today either...). If she could, she would have loved to convert everyone to the Christian faith. She truly believed that it's everyone's best interest to be Christian because that is the only true faith and the only way to find eternal salvation. Castile was generally a multi-cultural and multi-religious country, incorporating areas which were reconquered from the Moors that had big Muslim population and being the refuge of the Jews expelled from other Western European countries. Such multi-cultural cohabitation was not without difficulties and caused social unrests every now and then. If you think about how much unrest multiculturality can still cause today in some areas (attacks, etc), it's not hard to imagine how silly common uneducated medieval people could behave in those days. When there was a plague, they blamed it on the "unclear" infidels, and rose up against them, etc. When you had a lot of debts to the money loaner Jews, it was easier to attacks them on religious basis than to repay your big debt. Because of the religious discrimination, sometimes lower sometimes higher, many Jews converted to Christianity and to Isabella's times their number became very huge. However, many converts still kept some Jewish customs, sometimes even unvoluntarily. Many people, especially Church men, disapproved of it and said that with their "judaized" Christan faith the converts "stain" Christianity and it's dangerous for the faith. Isabella ordered an evangelization project, to "clear" the converts' faith. It was a peaceful teaching and education project in the beginning, with peaceful people like Talavera leading it. However, it brought success very slowly. Isabella was unsatisfied with the results, and there was also a huge pressure from Rome. Rome said they would only give support to Isabella for the reconquista crusade if she didn't tolerate heresy in her kingdom. Soon she was pressed to install the Inquisition in Spain. (People might believe the Spanish invented Inquisition but that couldn't be farther from the truth. It existed long before Isabella, used against the "heretics" in many regions of Europe.) Whether Isabella planned the expulsion or the Inquisition before the 1480s or she only reached that point later, or how reluctant she was to let Rome install it, I don't know. It was installed and then started to work, becoming more and more ruthless. I don't know how well Isabella knew the inquisition's work, but it worked quite freely since she was busy with the reconquista. The inquisition was effective but not as much as expected from such a brutal tool. Soon they started to think that it would never work effectively if there wrre still Jews in the kingdom and the converts still see them practicing Jewish faith and customs day by day. As time progressed, the social unrest between Christians, converts, Jews, the Inquisition, became intolerable. As the Reconquista ended in 1492, Isabella had to put an end to the question to start to work on the integration of the newly conquered lands and people. So, in 1492, she signed the document to expel all Jews.

@zhugeliang007

4 жыл бұрын

@@Lily1127channel A very informative explanation. Thank you Lili.

@kensebego199

4 жыл бұрын

Jews have been expelled because most of the inhabitants believed they were engaged in some shady businesses, people will believe in conspiracy if it serves to divert the blame from themselves and sadly the Jewish persecution is part of these conspiracies

@alfgui3295

4 жыл бұрын

One country, one faith, diversity is not a strength by any means. In the case of Castile the reasons given were religious and in Aragon the document of the expulsion (only signed by Fernando) also cited usury. It was the culmination of a process of conversion of the Jewish population initiated one century earlier by force though, pushed by Rome and sanctioned by other European catholic countries that could not understand how other faiths were allowed in a christian country.

@AmethystEyes

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lily1127channel we were forced to be money lenders and banking because so many jobs were forbidden. Christians weren’t supposed to do any usury jobs so it went to the Jews. And yet we get persecuted for trying to be successful at anything in life. We have been the scapegoats for thousands of years. It gets so weary.

I would have left.

@monicap7941

8 ай бұрын

3/4 of the Jewish population converted and remained in Spain.

Of course this soon came to bite Spain as many Jews having lost their livelihoods resorted to piracy against Spain and the many enemies of Spain (most notably the Ottomans and the Dutch) utilised these displaced people. Jamaica interestingly had a large community of Portuguese Jews and they resented Spanish rule so much that when Oliver Cromwell sent an English invasion force to take the island, the Portuguese Jews welcomed them with open arms. It also helped that Cromwell was working to emancipate the Jews in England and its colonies.

@lordofhostsappreciator3075

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao the Spanish Golden Age started after they expelled them

@Meow_Zedong_1949

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordofhostsappreciator3075 I never denied the Golden age of Spain started in 1492, what I'm saying is they created an unnecessary enemy.

@MH-ms1dg

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordofhostsappreciator3075 doesn't mean the two are related?

6:40 "Listen, oh, Israel. Adonai, our God. Adonai is the only one".

@cazwalt9013

3 жыл бұрын

God abandoned them

It's too bad ...

Honestly I tried really hard to make sense of this, I say to myself those were other times, she had to do it, but the truth is that in any way I see it, it was wrong. Torquemada was a really evil person. Jesus predicated love, humility and integration. Jesus, would have never approve of all the atrocities committed on his behalf.

@Helga7850

2 жыл бұрын

Sicily was a very prosperous part of the Kingdom of Aragon. The Jews were expelled en masse there...by Ferdinand's^ command. It was a great wound for that land. Since then, there have been very few Jews in Sicily

Very sad

@ahmedzahir2865

5 жыл бұрын

Ferdinand and isabel's self righteousness is the only thing i have no tolerance for. Ferdinand keeps cheating on his wife yet he is called Ferdinand the catholic? The jews helped isabel by lending her lots of money in her conquest in return for her protection, however she decides to banish them, never to return, on pain of death. They both had so many great qualities but there arrogant self righteousness is too much to deal with.

@Lily1127channel

5 жыл бұрын

ahmed ahmed You are right about these points. But at the same time, we have to admit that most of the strong and important rulers were similarly self righteous in those times (Middle Ages, 16th-17th century)

@fawadahmed9370

5 жыл бұрын

@@ahmedzahir2865 the jews were just an excuse there real target were the moors. Who were brutally expeled

@Lily1127channel

5 жыл бұрын

It was not an excuse or unreal target. They were as real targets as the Moors. Actually the Moors were expelled much later.

@ahmedzahir2865

5 жыл бұрын

Yes i agree that they were a super couple. That's very rare to find in history and today. The Jews were a valuable asset to castile i believe. In terms of the wealth they generated and medical skills they possessed ( Badoz ), so expelling them was pure madness. But i feel her main reasons were spiritual. She wanted to purge her land of heritics and non Catholics, she even mentions this in the video. Also, lets not forget to mention, the catholic monarchs were in a lot of debt to the jews of castile after their conquest, however they were already making big promises to a certain Mr Columbus. Spain became extremely more Catholic after her reign but moors were still present in spain as late as the 1600's i believe.

8:15 Columbus later asks this same question

We read the english translation now someone has translated it to german 70 years ago

Lili dailymotion link to season 2 pls

@Lily1127channel

4 жыл бұрын

There is no dailymotion link to season 2. All that I have from season 2 is on this KZread channel.

Lo dijo dios maldecire al que te maldiga por eso la maldicion de los reyes catolico y todo el caos de su imperio además de muchas bancarrotas

@antonexx

Ай бұрын

Disculpa pero que maldicion hablas? España aun no aciende a su edad de oro.

And Spain never recovered. So much knowledge and experience gone.

@danielandres1579

3 жыл бұрын

Not really. Spain entered into a Golden Age thereafter.

@ajvanmarle

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielandres1579 Spain was already in an economic decline by the mid-16th Century due to massive inflation. That's not a Golden Age, that's a Golden 5 Minutes.

@alfgui3295

3 жыл бұрын

@@ajvanmarle The Spanish empire survived almost 3 centuries after the expulsion, you can make the argument that Jews were not needed. When the Bourbons took control of Spain in the 19th century, they found that the state coffers were so full, that they built the biggest royal palace in Europe. You may not believe it, but catholic christians know about economics too.

@lordofhostsappreciator3075

2 жыл бұрын

Spain literally entered it's Golden Age after this

@MH-sm5qk

Жыл бұрын

@@alfgui3295 surely the argument of whether a long-resident people in a country has the right to stay because they're needed or not is... flawed?