It is interesting how Odile sort of went from cold perfection to a more seductive, evil look. I guess it is dancers responding to what the audience is looking for. This character certainly gets a ton of mileage out of not really all that much time on stage

@emersondovale

Жыл бұрын

To be honest, I find the newer versions more technically perfect and yes, more seductive. In the first videos you can see the ballerinas' bodies going diagonally when they spin. The last two have perfect straight postures. They also seem more slim and have longer legs, which I think adds to the sense of seductiveness.

@winniechau4442

Жыл бұрын

I can give a better explanation as to why she’s not a sister to me guess what?? You’re the same Christy

@mercyobourke8776

Жыл бұрын

I was born in 1942 in Havana, Cuba. My family held tickets for the “Musical Pro-Art Society”, which presented ballet, opera, symphony and drama productions as well as touring soloists of classical music. Since I was 4 it was my joy to see Alicia Alonso in all the rôles of the classical repertoire, usually 3 times a year. Giselle was my favorite, with Swan Lake a close second. What fascinated me most was the difference between Odette- warm, shy, gentle, playful, - and Odile- cold, precise, aloof, cutting. By 1947, I found myself in London with my parents and we went to see Swan Lake; I don’t remember who was the prima ballerina in that production, but I remember going to a restaurant afterwards and expressing a strange feeling of disappointment, despite the far more lavish scenery and costumes. As a child, my appreciation was for the storytelling and the personages of the tale. The rigorously exact steps were not able to communicate as well. In fact, over the years I’ve had difficulties embracing perfect technique with extreme extensions and total exactitude of positions. Regardless of how athletic and physically perfect they are, if a dancer doesn’t speak his/her role through the choreography, the performance is moot to me. When both aspects are present in dance, it’s a wonderful experience!

@lilydewinters4729

Жыл бұрын

Gillian Murphy, nailed it! The way she, dances in moves is breathtaking and magical. She’s everything that ballet should be.

@teijaflink2226

Жыл бұрын

At least here the newer versions give lot more character and passion, the older Odiles kind of look boring.

The orchestra is so different in the older versions I have to wonder what it was originally intended to sound like by Tchaikovsky and if we've come closer now or only drifted further away from his original vision. I would give so much to see what the original Swan Lake looked and sounded like!

@hk6970

Жыл бұрын

Ratmansky reconstructed Swan Lake you can watch excerpts from his version.

@ninaradio

Жыл бұрын

Their performances aren’t really very different, but the way they were recorded is. The later ones, recorded live in theaters, are using much more sensitive mics that pick up the lower registers way better, plus they are picking up in the acoustics of the sound bouncing around the larger space. The earlier ones sound like they were recorded in smaller, acoustically “drier” spaces with much more limited microphones.

@GemsPro_Olga

Жыл бұрын

@@hk6970 he didn’t reconstruct he created his version

@annasolovyeva1013

Жыл бұрын

A failure. The first staging of Swan lake failed. So the way the music is alligned, sounds was changed as long as the choreography before the ballet became the hit we know today.

@lindaallen9721

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if the choreography has changed and evolved as dancers became more athletic and skills more bold? I wonder if the music we are hearing was added by the poster since it’s the same on every dancer.

why is no one saying anything about Evteyeva, she literally moves like a bird... so graceful, refined and free

@TheKohibari

Жыл бұрын

I also thought that her moves are the softest of them all and her body is exceptionally smooth. No hesistation or preparation before moves are executed, the sequence is just flowing. That´s what i as a layperson see

@panivikelskaya171

Жыл бұрын

Мне она понравилась.больше всех.

@beteljuice6629

Жыл бұрын

She feels like she's an embodiment of a black swan. I don't know how long she did that part but it just felt so natural

@avoile1476

Жыл бұрын

She's absolutely exceptional. The movie version of Swan Lake done in 1968 is one of my favorites and I was floored by her performance the first time I saw it. Her Odile is Odile pretending to be Odette (and not Odile being Odile). She's so charming and enchanting you can understand why the prince was willing to believe she was the Swan Queen.

@ceceliaclarke264

Жыл бұрын

Yes. All that you say is true. This performance is perfectly lovely. I'm thinking, however, that viewers are holding back with comments because there are places in this performance where she is just slightly off her center. The placement of her feet is just a bit off, for certain steps, and consequently her center of gravity shifts. This is where she seems to tip to one side, in a way that is barely noticeable, but also somewhat distracting. Your comment has me thinking that it is possible that the producer of this video made a deliberate choice to present a slightly off performance by this dancer, to show off the third and the fourth, in a comparison. That would be the usual process, for youtube videos of this type.

Osipova was technically superb but Murphy’s interpretation was absolutely gripping....she looked magical. It is difficult to compare ‘progression’ when the dancers are already diverse in their abilities. Certainly the earlier version footwork and balance looked less accurate

@Matreshka03-86

Жыл бұрын

мой комментарий, только на английском языке!

@SeleneSalvatore

Жыл бұрын

I like Murphy's version better less cold and more alluring. I like also smoothness of Murphy's moves more than Osipova athletic and more technical approach.

@amaliaemirova1169

Жыл бұрын

This is because back then it was painful to stand for long periods of times now days we have more support on pointe shoes.

@lonesparrow

Жыл бұрын

I agree, she was the most mesmerizing

@lonesparrow

Жыл бұрын

@@amaliaemirova1169 I think probably the cuts and editing in the earlier ones don't help

I am stunned by Osipova's athleticism and command of this highly technical variation, but Murphy really embodies the dark temptress for me. She's like black silk - soft and seductive and yet evil and cruel. I adore her renverses here, her dropped back head (so difficult!!) and beckoning gaze are alluring and chilling at the same time.

@claireschweizer4765

Жыл бұрын

Yesssssssssss🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤

@avesraggiana

Жыл бұрын

I find Gillian’s Odile superficial, and her hold on the character very weak.

@sitting_nut

Жыл бұрын

where did you copy and paste that cliche nonsense from

@An_Gold

Жыл бұрын

That is a wonderful comment. I agree!

@sitting_nut

Жыл бұрын

​@@An_Gold that is a copy and paste comment made of cliche prejudices. that is what people from certain part of the world, always say when they want to criticize ballerinas from certain other part of world. contemptible envy.

I absolutely loved the way Gillian Murphy (2005) embodied Odile. Every move she made and her gaze, she made it all seem completely effortless. Such elegance, she moved with such grace, she wasn't stiff once, pretty much every move of hers was circular and flowy, so fluid, they remind me of the way birds move

Evteyeva looks the most "princessy" to me out of all of them. 😍🥰 She just looks like she's having a lot of fun!

@flonoiisana4647

Жыл бұрын

My favorite by far!

@itsjudystube7439

Жыл бұрын

Having fun isn’t really the point though

@jasminemississo1796

Жыл бұрын

She was dancing like the black swan pretending/convincing the prince she was the white swan (Odette?) which I thought made her the most enjoyable to watch ^^

@castanhatropicana

Жыл бұрын

She's my favourite also.

@iria871

Жыл бұрын

my favorite

I love Osipova’s rendition, and I adore her tutu (those shoulder straps make her arms look absolutely incredible) but Murphy just seems to float across the stage. She’s like oil on water, the technicality all the more impressive for how effortlessly fluid it looks.

@vilchyr

Жыл бұрын

Техничность? Опущу владение кистью - это явная американская школа, но руки! Как, изображая птичий полет, можно забыть локти? И, кажется, во вращении и толчках она не везде опускала пятки на пол. Да, шаг кажется воздушнее, но этим она убивает связки.

@user-kw4lx3pt2z

Жыл бұрын

@@vilchyr ее руки в этой партии просто прелестны, изумительны, великолепны

@Meskarune

8 ай бұрын

She seemed off from the music to me, not dancing on the beats.

Its amazing to watch the difference in the body types of dancers back in the 50s and 60s. Before Balanchine, women could be athletic and still have enough weight on them to keep their curves - previous generations of dancers were able to keep their careers going all the way into their 40s. Now, because of hyper extension and malnutrition, dancers are already injured with back problems by their late 20s.

@mariasheliaputri7678

Жыл бұрын

Omg that's so sad....

@AnnaEmilka

Жыл бұрын

I noticed that as well, the first two dancers while athletic still looked slightly curvy compared to modern-day ones. You can really see that in their legs and shoulders. I don't know anything about ballet though so I don't know why this change happened or whether it has positive/negative effects on the dancers

@tolde

Жыл бұрын

If you do not eat good you do not have strenght and power to do all that. The dancers eat goed but they burn a lot of calories during the work out. It is a myth about malnutrition. A lot of them smoke also. My daughter is a dancer

@lisawentworth6831

Жыл бұрын

absolutely! They had the more 50s kind of ideal of curves...thin, but curvy. Once Balenchine became popular, it was anorexic and athletic. I was just explaining to someone above, who is a fencer, that thought there was better support for injury and nutrition. Ha! It's an art form, not a sport, and that hyper flexibility and malnutrition we know runs rampant

@lisawentworth6831

Жыл бұрын

@@tolde are you kidding me? In professional companies, the dancers starved. Our company only allowed the women to have a handful pf candy all day while training. Of course the body needs fuel, but the person has an excellent point; once Balenchine hit the scene, the style was starvation thin and hard training. Think Gelsie Kirkland in the 70s. The 50s ballerina looked completely different from her; 50s one probably cooked dinner for her family before performance...70s was anorexic.

I’m no dancer, but after forty years of training and competing in womens sport, I’m seeing shifts over time here that mirror development across the entire spectrum of womens sport - and ballerinas are pro athletes, they’ll tell you that. Better injury treatment, nutrition, addressing the demands that women starve themselves, and better sport science in general has gotten into ballet schools like it has everywhere else and given better transitions, better power, greater ability for directors to exploit. Dance does not exist in a silo, a good company will use better science to get better dancers. As a fencer I saw the same things from 1977 to 2010, you can run tape from 1968 of any sport vs now and see this. You have better dance athletes giving better performances because they can.

@guardianfish7718

Жыл бұрын

Yes yes yes! This!

@bubble8829

Жыл бұрын

This is so true, technically. Artistry, musicality and interpretation, though - they're something else again. In those areas, some older stars had what some newer stars don't, despite technical advancement. In addition, I think there are a lot of modern dancers who would give a lot for Alicia Alonso's balance. Or Anthony Dowell's. To this day, so far as I've seen, no one can do des Grieux in Manon technically as well as Anthony Dowell did (especially the Act I solo), with the one exception of Vadim Muntagirov. Muntagirov has everything, (and it helps he's a lefty, as Dowell was).

@lonesparrow

Жыл бұрын

The progression in gymnastics in particular is pretty shocking

@sofia_aa

Жыл бұрын

I love your insight! I know nothing about sports so would have never imagined that.

@lavinder11

Жыл бұрын

Yes, but the actual artistry is missing. I see the same in the bellydancing world. Lots of abs but very little dancing.

2005 was my favorite. Her movements were so delicate and joyfilled. She becomes the character.

@desireekallenberg3235

Жыл бұрын

agreed!

Not necessarily a reflection of the dancers' skills, but the choreography over time seems to have shifted more and more from a delicate story-telling number to an athletic spinning contest (especially 2005). That said, the ballerinas do perform these flawlessly and with grace, embodying the character very well.

I am so happy to see Alicia Alonso here!!! she was an outstanding dancer for her generation.

@beatricescroggin3406

Жыл бұрын

I saw her dance many a time. Usually with Igor y... as her partner Wonderful memories

All of the dancers are to be admired for their dedication to ballet and their techniques. Thanks for the evolution. ❤❤❤

I do have to say I’m still pretty impressed how Alonzo banged out the quads like it was nothing. I’m sure that’s why she was so famous back in the day. I can’t imagine that there were any other women that could do 3, 4 or five pirouettes on pointe consistently like her during the same time period. She was definitely ahead of her time.

Wow to Gillian Murphy. She was mesmerizing.

The second is my favourite. She is perfectly coordinated with the music..

@marajade13

Жыл бұрын

Yevteyeva. She is perfection.

It’s fascinating to me that with the evolution of pointe shoes, more pointe work has been incorporated into these numbers.

Alicia Alonso’s turns!!!🩰👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@IfeelMT

Жыл бұрын

Interesting… I expected the dancers to be more impressive over the years and while flexibility extension fluidity and technique might have some gains over Alicia … Alicia is the only one who accomplished 5 pirouettes 👏👏👏👏👏

@isabelaandzico

Жыл бұрын

@@IfeelMT I was a very young girl and had the honor of dancing a bit part with National Ballet of Cuba 🇨🇺🩰 right before Dame Alonso passed. I was so little but in awe of the fact that she’d be brought on the stage by wheelchair ♿️ with the curtains down for final bows, but she mustered the strength to stand up and bow like the Prima Ballerina Assoluta that she was without the audience ever knowing. Never let them see you sweat. I’ll never forget and vowed to dance and live like that, like everyone is watching. Brava!🇧🇷🇵🇹🩰

@qtpiefuuurrrever

Жыл бұрын

Her posture was better and her moves more graceful and carefree than the newer ballerinas. Which is crazy because she is visibly weighing a bit more than the younger ballerinas so you would think she’d struggle more. I noticed the newer ballerinas also have a more bony and muscular look that makes their moves look less easy-flowing and more mechanical and rigid. The two earlier clips of those ballerinas were very magical on the eyes, looked beautiful.

@isabelaandzico

Жыл бұрын

@@qtpiefuuurrrever да 👏🏻 пожалуйста, I appreciate having been coached by Ирина Колпакова and other primas from mainly the Большо́й . Their artistry, epaulement, everything down to the fingertips was addressed. Yes, I’m more of the bony and athletic type (naturally) but that didn’t matter to me or especially my Ballet Mistresses and artistic directors.🇧🇷🇵🇹🇷🇺🩰

Osipova is a genius in a class of her own for the past twenty years (and I suspect her greatest years are coming to a close). Alonso was forty-seven when she did this performance. More importantly, Alonso was not filmed while dancing the variation on stage at a theatre or during a performance. This was a ghastly, made for TV, dumbed-down version of Odile, it was photographed terribly, it wasn’t a proper dance floor. Filming dance back in the 1960s and 1970s was a nightmare. It was very difficult, the equipment was awful, the technical ability was dreadful. That’s why we are missing so many, many great performances. The Russians filmed everything always so we are lucky to see so many minor ballerinas we would have never seen in the west.

@claireschweizer4765

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!! I had really wondered about this!🖤🖤🖤

@melissatranfield4054

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think her greatest years are coming to a close, she’s only 36. Sarah Lamb and Marianela Nuñez are in their early forties and still exquisite. She’s hitting her prime now with the maturity of her technique and acting ability. I predict she’ll have her own company when she does retire from performing as often (hopefully not for a while yet). Alessandra Ferri is 59 and still performing brilliantly for the Royal Ballet.

@An_Gold

Жыл бұрын

And who prevented to film major dancers in your country? I even do not know what to think of your comment. There are really many, many wonderful ballet dancers in Russia, we are lucky that some of them were filmed. Filming was always expensive, so if a ballet dancer was filmed - that was the reason for that.

@An_Gold

Жыл бұрын

@@melissatranfield4054 I agree, perhaps the best years of Osipova are coming to end. After all, 36 for ballet is quite a number, the body possibilities have limits, unfortunately.

@valerina01

Жыл бұрын

@@An_Gold that’s not what she wrote. Quite the opposite, actually. Your other comments above are very confrontational too. Quite unpleasant to read.

Каждая балерина - мастер и хороша по-своему. Сравнивать сценическую и студийную запись не совсем корректно. Кроме того, они танцуют разные редакции этой вариации. С удовольствием посмотрела все четыре исполнения.

@taschayaro7743

Жыл бұрын

Абсолютно верно!

@wildpendulum

Жыл бұрын

Само видео сравнивает не балерин, а партию Одиллии.

@Outlander_

Жыл бұрын

Вообще четыре танцовщицы это мало , чтоб сравнить . И потом , а почему Плисецкой нет в этой подборке ? Самый прекрасный и известный русский "лебедь" . У нее Одиллия тоже хороша .

@akunamatata777

Жыл бұрын

Видна тенденция к упрощению партии. В последней версии больше половины элементов выброшены, либо заменены на упрощенный аналог, что никак не красит партию, выглядит скупо и неинтересно.

I love the element in Alonso's version of going across the floor en pointe on one foot ~ I don't know what this step is called, but it was delightful and clearly required strength, technique and control while appearing light and airy. I'm sorry it was omitted from all the other versions. The progression over time seems to go from a certain delicacy to a more assertive athleticism. A reflection of changes in the broader culture.

@zvezdoblyat

Жыл бұрын

I miss grace and elegance in ballet and gymnastics. Athleticism has a time and place but modern gymnasts and ballerinas seem to only show athleticism :( P.s also figure skating

@Matreshka03-86

Жыл бұрын

я тоже за этот элемент!

@elladeon

Жыл бұрын

I wondered if anyone else would mention that! Her dance was overall a little less fluid than the others, but that sequence was amazing.

@tessie7e777

Жыл бұрын

Considering that Alonso was 47 when she danced that and had been partially blind since 19 years of age, she did amazing!

@stephaniecarrow4898

Жыл бұрын

@@tessie7e777 That certainly makes her performance ~ and this element ~ even more amazing and remarkable!

Gillian Murphy's is SO underrated!!!!

@user-kw4lx3pt2z

Жыл бұрын

Не сказала бы, по-моему она очень известна

Oh how I love Natalia Osipova! I saw her for the first time at their graduation concert. She is as amazing! So skilled and charismatic 😍

i really like the arm movements of later versions, how the dancers start using their whole upper bodies and how they almost glide across the stage

Евтеева в данной подборке настоящая Богиня! Её танец полон магии👏👏👏 Осипова, конечно танцует безупречно, но за её атлетизмом теряется женственность🙄

@user-my6ed5no5x

Жыл бұрын

меня она тоже поразила своей утонченной женственностью.

Все четыре балерины в партии Одилии прекрасны но балет тоже меняется совершенствуется получила истинное наслаждение

For Odile, I give Alonso 10 out of 10

my name is Odilon. It is a rare male version of Odile. Odile is french, but Odilon is more common in Mexico. They have the same name origin as teh name Adele, and they all originate from "Od" which means strength and fortune, and comes from Odin.

@raccoonchild

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a Fae name

@zzzcocopepe

Жыл бұрын

@@raccoonchild I know right! It sounds like Oberon

I actually preferred the very first one. I'd love to see it in the outfit in the last performance. but the more technical the moves got the more motion sick I became... but I'm really glad to see that changes are made as time moves on. there are many choices

In the first dance the choreography has pauses where I can see the shape of a bird in the pose. The modern choreography is constant spins and the arms are always acting as wings, so I can’t see the long neck poses.

@karinec.8037

6 ай бұрын

yes, same feeling for me, I like when there is variation in the rythm, giving more sense to the move; dance must express something, not be just a performance... whatever the talent of these dancers.

Six pirouette on the point for the one and only Alicia Alonso

@user-fw8oh1si7o

Жыл бұрын

Семь

The sequence done by the first ballerina is no doubt my fave

Не только исполнение, но и хореография отличаются оч сильно. у всех.

Gillian впечатлила больше всех, волшебство и воздушность. Спасибо каналу!

Gillian Murphy' arm movements is perfection.

Gillian Murphy has ALWAYS been my favorite...such a haughty temptress...& her arms are very swan-like...

Как прекрасна всё-таки Евтеева, какие красивые у нее ноги!

Евтеева-прекрасна!

@okssym33

Жыл бұрын

Евтеева в представленной четвёрке - лучшая. Осипова - мелкая кривляка, переигрывает. Как по мне она не дотягивает до примы балерины по всем параметрам. Лучше бы Захарову в пример показали.

Alicia is a diamond ❤

Alicia Alonso is absolutely stunning!

@cathryncampbell8555

Жыл бұрын

What amazes me about Alonso is that she was *Blind* -- and yet she kept on dancing.

@raissa39

Жыл бұрын

Agree she radiates charm and there is very little difference technically between her performance the most contemporary ones.

@valerina01

Жыл бұрын

I agree. She impressed me the most despite the not so great choreography.

@beatricescroggin3406

Жыл бұрын

I am old enough to have seen Alicia Alonso dance. She usually partrned with Igor Youskevitzl4bo5z

@beatricescroggin3406

Жыл бұрын

Me again their Giselle made me cry.

I couldn’t tell in what way they were different but I liked the first one. Somehow it felt more dainty.

I think what I noticed most was the shoes. The blocks on the two earlier dancers' shoes (Alonso and Evteyeva) are noticeably smaller than the ones on the more modern dancers'. I think it lends a lighter feel to their performance and likely makes it more difficult to remain en pointe. Also, just my two cents, but I prefer the sets of chasses in the earlier performances than the bourrees tournant. It suits the character/music better.

У второй балерины больше присутствует русская школа балета, пластика , взмах рук, как взмах крыльев , больше одухотворенности в танце. Это действительно лебедь на сцене.

@user-qy4ov8dp5y

Жыл бұрын

Защо смятате, че руската школа е по-духовна от френската, английската, италианската или занзибарската? Важното е да има високо майсторство на изпълнение без значение от националната принадлежвост. Поздрав от българския балет!

@mariakihl2583

Жыл бұрын

@@user-qy4ov8dp5y Вы не совсем правы.Я согласна,талант и мастрество не зависят от национальной принадлежности. Но понятие "балетная школа",будь то русская или французская существует официально в мире хореографии. И русская школа балета,которой почти три сотни лет,по праву считается одной из сильнейших в мире. "Школа балета" значит традиция,свод правил и методик преподавания искусства классического танца.

im kinda sad that the later versions did not have those foot flick thingos that Alonso did toward the end of her dance. Aside form that, each one was very captivating i loved watching this. edit; thank you for the video imma go watch more of them hehe

Even though I love Ballet, I don’t have a very educated eye on what to look for. I would love videos like this where the two dances are being performed side-by-side so it’s easier for me to see the differences.

Murphy is beyond of art.

I find Elena Evteyeva extremely pleasurable to watch :).

Brava Alicia!!!

I am surprised I never heard of Murphy before. And I find her quite amazing

@l.alexandra5871

Жыл бұрын

She’s with ABT and has been for a very long time.

@lasylphide-s5j

Жыл бұрын

You need to see her in the movie Center stage from 99 she does quite a lot of dancing in it. It’s a favorite movie among ballet fans

@GabrielleduVent

Жыл бұрын

imho her Odette is one of the best, if not the best, out there. Her Odile is more a seductress/hot girl than someone evil... the best Odile I've found so far has to go to Monica Perego. Awful costume but she really, really exudes evil with the variation. it's the original Odile variation, though, not the Mischievous Child.

@mysticpurrrrfection

Жыл бұрын

@@lasylphide-s5j I will look it up thanks

@RachelG1979

Жыл бұрын

The full ballet is on KZread just look it up

Its incredible how Alicia was partially blind and how she could do this

Alicia just whipping out a quintuple pirouette on not-so-supportive pointe shoes (0:15) like it's the easiest thing in the world 😍 You should do this same video with the other version of the Odile variation (the sinister sounding Russian version with the oboe)!

@antonyakubovskiy1887

10 ай бұрын

Русская не версия ,а оригинал. Это русский балет

Gillian Murphy is exquisite!

the dancers in black and white were truly incredible. idk but their artistry was something amazing.

I understand that Alonso's performance was edited and the others were one take, but she was so mesmerizing. She was giving face and it felt like I was watching a story unfold as opposed to a dance performance. All 4 dancers are stunning and amazing.

I play classical music but have never been able to really appreciate ballet. By seeing these performances back to back and reading the comments of those who really know ballet, I can get a better sense of how different airs are conveyed and I'm looking forward to seeing my next ballet with this education!

I want to see grace, elegance and story telling together with alignment to the music and beautiful lines. These came from the earlier dancers. The most recent dancer slung her arms and legs around as if she were in a gymnastics or acrobatic performance. Sometimes less is more. In these examples less is much more

@janaselle8063

Жыл бұрын

Ох! Как вы правы! Была рада прочесть ваш комментарий.

@lynlyn9850

Жыл бұрын

So true. Watching the later dances I can recognize that they had a lot of good technique, but I still feel more captivated by the first 2 dancers.

@user-qy4ov8dp5y

Жыл бұрын

Споделям вашето мнение.

Murphy absolutely the best! What a dancer!

Gillian Murphy is one of my favorites in this role. So glad you included her.

The third one looked soo effortless amazing

Ta wersja z 1968 roku podobała mi się najbardziej 🌹🥳💞

Elena was like a music doll 😍😍😍 soo beautiful clean and elegant

@user-kw4lx3pt2z

Жыл бұрын

Сравнение с куклой не очень лестно, она здесь именно по-женски очень соблазнительна🙂

Gillian Murphy's facial expressions are sooo nasty!!! Not to mention those Craaazy extensions! 🤩 I love it!!!!🖤🖤🖤😈😈🖤🖤🖤

@avesraggiana

Жыл бұрын

I disagree. Murphy falls in and out of the role of Odile. Is it Odile, or is it Gillian? Wait, is it Odile again? You can see it in her dancing how how Odile falls off her face, and she’s back to being “oooh-I-tawt-I-taw-a-puddytat!”-Gillian again.

@amobaleiasassassinas

Жыл бұрын

@@avesraggiana I never expected to read something like this but it does make sense

Джиллиан лучшая! Идеально передала и исполнила образ! Ее руки - изящные, гибкие, лёгкие, почти невесомые - дают ощущение парящих крыльев! Браво! Это прекрасно!

@user-ph1yf5zc1q

Жыл бұрын

А мне как раз не понравились руки и какая то заторможенность в их работе. По музыке руки уже должны быть подняты на позицию а такое ощущение, чо предплечья до последнего момента провисают. Это какие то доли секунды, но мне почему то это чувствуется

@user-ke1tf5op8s

Жыл бұрын

@@user-ph1yf5zc1q на мой взгляд у Осиповой здесь волшебные руки

@user-ir8is3wy8t

Жыл бұрын

@@user-ph1yf5zc1q Вы все правильно чувствуете, но это как раз и создаёт эффект ее танца, несколько декадентского или даже мистического свойства, это завораживает, порочно обольщает. Не просто очень хорошая гимнастика как у Осиповой. Искусство - это не про правильность, это про другое!

Gillian murphy was my favourite, to me her arms were perfect, she was silky smooth in her movements, I cant deny the sheer capacities of Osipova, but to me its just like in iceskating showing their physical prowess takes a bit from the art/the message. I personally would love to see Osipova in very strong roles like an evil queen or something of the sort, I'm going to search for that, and it's very interesting to see the little changes

@babayaga3098

Жыл бұрын

Yes exactly! I got light airy flowy vibes from Murphy and evil Queen vibes from osipova, both are amazing but Murphy embodied this role better

Каждая последующая Одилия прекрасней предыдущей!

What a treat! Thank you so much! I looovvve the inky darkness of Osipova’s interpretation.

So impressed with Gillian Murphy! Her athleticism and grace were extraordinary.

@user-kw4lx3pt2z

Жыл бұрын

Атлетизм здесь не к месту( ее руки в этой партии бесподобны

@tonyaustin4629

Жыл бұрын

@@user-kw4lx3pt2z Natalia Osipova (2018) was the best.

Evteeva had perfect technique, besides artistry and musicality. No one today can compare to Soviet ballerinas.

@flonoiisana4647

Жыл бұрын

Sylvie Guillem.

@anastasialenkova-molchalin5874

Жыл бұрын

She’s retired and was never close to Ulanova, Plisetskaya, Makarova, Kolpakova, etc.

@flonoiisana4647

Жыл бұрын

@@anastasialenkova-molchalin5874 She's retired and was far better then all those you named.

@anastasialenkova-molchalin5874

Жыл бұрын

@Flonoii Sana I disagree. I think she was more of contortionist than ballerina, of course many don’t agree with me. Ballet is subjective of course, unless we’re talking about technique (which would mean 1960s-1990s Vaganova graduates are the best obviously).

@flonoiisana4647

Жыл бұрын

@@anastasialenkova-molchalin5874 We have to respectfully disagree.

I liked the 1967 & 2005's performances. I like the way the 2 ladies did it. Everyones was lovely just btw.

I like the first one because how elegant those kick were

This is an awesome video.❣️ I do think that every epoche is important to understand where these beautiful pieces come from. And every ballerina here, has her own unique style. But true, although this is a very demanding part.... You can tell that this isn't a big deal for Osipova....She dances it with such an easyness.. maybe this is the secret why it looks so beautiful. But of course all ballerinas here belong to the ,, Creme de la Creme " 👌🏻❣️

Osipova fantastica! La vedrò mercoledì in Giselle, non vedo l’ora ❤

@Marta44339

Жыл бұрын

Beata te!

@sebumpostmortem

Жыл бұрын

😍🙆🏻‍♀️🙆🏻‍♀️🙆🏻‍♀️🙆🏻‍♀️🙆🏻‍♀️🙆🏻‍♀️😍

@todd-ut9sj

Жыл бұрын

うらやましい😂

i’ve always loved baller I but I didn’t know the names of the dancers. Having watched all four I really enjoyed watching Elena in 68. It really feels like you are watching someone who has just connected with the joy in the energy of dance and she dances like there is no one else around. Plus the lines of her body and feet are just absolutely amazing. I feel like the ones that came after it’s almost like a competitive endurance sport. I don’t feel the connection to the music or the character as much. But like of all things it is personal choice

Елена Евтеева понравилась ,наверное из за пачки 60 годов ,от которой мы в детстве сходили с ума ,она мягче и пышнее ,очень романтический фасон

И в 1968 Евтеева, и в 2018 Осипова выше всяких похвал. Русский балет браво, браво, браво! Спасибо!

@user-kw4lx3pt2z

Жыл бұрын

Осипова великолепна, но эта партия не для ее темперамента(

Осипова Наталья !!! Без слов !!! Самая потрясающая танцовщица современного балета!!!

@tanikN

Жыл бұрын

Вы, типа, не видите, что в классике она вообще никакая? Недаром ей в Большом только девчушек-попрыгушек давали танцевать. Даже на фоне других исполнительниц в этом клипе она выглядит плохо, а уж если мы вспомним про Лопаткину и Захарову...

Thank you for this side by side processing over the years. Each dancer's natural body gets to show some expression in this peice and i like that. Um 47 years old!!!!! I have two years to work on this;)

Alisia Alonso was the best. Incredible!

Алисия выполнила все сложные технические элементы с лёгкостью. Сложнейшее прохождение на пуантах, на одной ноге, остановка и помахивание ножкой , согнутой в коленном суставе - это что- то невероятное. Остальные балерины даже не пытались сделать этот элемент !

Their movements are absolutely mesmerizing, I now understand why people like ballet

My favourite is Plisetskaya😍 But Osipova is good too👍🏻

@user-kw4lx3pt2z

Жыл бұрын

Согласна с первым предложением

Es el poder de su interpretación artística que a las cuatro las hace incomparables. Cada una en su época, con sus recursos técnicos, enriquecen cada variación.

Наша Наташа Осипова гениальная балерина!!!!Вокруг нее танцует даже воздух.Браво Наташа! Мы тебя очень любим!

I was already amased that dansers could perform so that even I (with NO ballet knowledge what so ever, I just enjoy seeing it) up under the ceiling on the cheapest seats, can see Odette and Odile’s different personalities! Seeing the same dance lined up like this leaves me flabbergasted 🤯

Всё не то. Технично ,четко, но не то. Кто видел Майю Плисецкую в роли Одилии,тот поймёт.В ее исполнении столько душевности,жизнелюбия, любви.Она жила танцем.Сердце замирает,когда смотришь на танец Майи.А тут не ёкает,совсем. Не хочу никого обидеть,это только моё субъективное мнение.

Советы по балету,весело про руки ,мимику,па головокружение, шум!Это в прошлом ,а ныне шоу,от которых мухи дохнут!!!

Elena Evteyeva bravo!

Osipova has the best musicality and dynamic contrast

@heikization

Жыл бұрын

You mean Murphy

@user-ir8is3wy8t

Жыл бұрын

Откуда Вы это взяли? Какая музыкальность?!!😯

No one beats Osipova! She is always incredible. There seems to always be a lively intelligence behind her eyes and smile. Lovely video. Thank you. ❤

@user-kw4lx3pt2z

Жыл бұрын

Это не лучшая ее партия(

Все балерины прекрасны!

Mesmerizing...

Волшебно!❤

Osipova so lovely and definitely the temptress..

Gillian Murphy 2005 beautiful, precise, graceful

Alicia Alonso !!!!!!🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩

Simplemente magistral Natalia OSIPOVA....... No hay comparación, técnica, carisma, talento interpretativo, contextura, estatura y belleza 👏👏👏👋🇨🇱

@GradKat

Жыл бұрын

I agree!

@janaselle8063

Жыл бұрын

Осипова не балерина, а гимнастка.

@user-ir8is3wy8t

Жыл бұрын

@@janaselle8063 К сожалению такое сейчас сплошь и рядом. Многие зрители не понимают искусство, только спорт.

@user-kw4lx3pt2z

Жыл бұрын

Просто эта партия не ее. Для меня она лучшая Жизель современности

Oh wow! Odile is one of my favorite ballet characters! A difference I observed was the changing head pieces (; Nevertheless, though this is considered as canon, there are also some alternate versions with the different music from the Pas de six. It's hard to imagine that Odile wasn't interpreted as Black Swan before the 1940es (though, Petipa had introduced Black Swans into Act 4...), but it seems like intended by Tchaikovsky himself (;

@user-qn9ij8gm9k

Жыл бұрын

Вы правы. Одиллия не лебедь. Она - демоница!! Я не знаю,отчего в мире пошла путаница с тем,что она черный лебедь.

@felicity1877

Жыл бұрын

@@user-qn9ij8gm9k I think the main problem are her swan movements- with those she is pretending to be Odette. Also Odette is not a swan on stage, but rather hinting her swan enchantment with her movements. This is the other common mistake and often target of parody. Swan Lake gets constantly mistaken with "The dying swan" - actually Odette's "classic, but actually modern" swan tutu is based on Anna Pavlola's dress, and so there the tradition is from. Plus, "Black swan" is probably more poetic than the darker imagination of a demon. Yet, there is also "Arrival of black swans" a piece by Richard Wagner, and it reminds me also greatly of Pas de Six No 2 (Andante con moto), and Odile's instrument is also like Odette's the oboe, which is fitting to the whole swan connection....Which means, that Odile is also not a black swan on stage, but black swans are also associated with demons (There's also an opera by Siegfried Wagner: "Realm of the Black swans").

Jaka gracja jaki wdzięk ☺️🌹

Osipova truly looks like a swan with the way she moves. Incredible

@user-kw4lx3pt2z

Жыл бұрын

Вот уж лебедя я здесь не увидела, при том что Осипову я обожаю