Being an American player in my 50s, I absolutely prefer the big full fat sound, a loud flute, and the ability to use vibrato at will instead of all the time. I guess it’s how I was taught! I was even taught to do tone studies with and without vibrato, lol

Really interesting, I like all the styles and Jean P. Is one of my all time favorites of old. Did you know that he passed good flute down to Pahud?

Merci pour cette présentation.A écouter aussi Roger Bourdin.malgré sa courte carrière il a beaucoup marqué une génération.Pour parler de Sébastien Jacot , il possède entre autre une flûte Parmenon. Elles sont à elles seules des vrais bijoux avec une musicalité extraordinaire 😉

I used to listen to the flute players and the basic feeling was "wow" "they are top" "I will never be able to play like them". "If they play like this, this is correct. Who am I to judge them?". OK I was a teenager then. Your video help me understand the evolution of flute playing and to understand it with words in my head, not only with just "feeling". Thank you....

Fav player - JP Rampal, whom I saw in recital in NYC (and even on Long Island once) many times. Always loved to listen to his recordings, too, and he was a huge influence on my playing as I learned the flute. That said, I do believe that varying the vibrado and using it for color and dramatic effect is wonderful and a nice development over the years. Thank you for this video, I really enjoyed it!

A thing about the oldest recordings is that the musician had to sit right in front of a big horn with the needle connected to the bottom to scratch the record. It was a distinctly awkward situation for recording musicians until microphones with mic stands allowed them to have regular posture and not have to crouch over a recording device just so it could get a strong enough signal. Even these days a band in a studio, or in multiple studios playing to their bandmate's tracks though file sharing is nothing like recording a live band with a crowd. Until microphones were invented there was no way for musicians to record in a live setting. If it were anything but a quiet studio the delicate equipment could shudder or be damaged. If the musicians so much as bumped the big wide horns they had to basically put their faces into to get a lead instrument or voice tone it could totally ruin the recording medium.

@cafe.cedarbeard

Жыл бұрын

Are you sure the vibrato in the old recordings isn't the old medium's limitations? I doubt wax cylinders and the first vinyl discs were anywhere as clear as we know from the time of the late 50's onward.

@cafe.cedarbeard

Жыл бұрын

The bigger 'oomph' comes from the difference between horns with scratching needles to microphones into tape machines, that then were transferred to much better vinyl discs.

@cafe.cedarbeard

Жыл бұрын

You can hear the difference also in that the harp was as clear as the flute in the first ones that sound pretty clear. That means there was more than one mic as opposed to the single horn.

I think Rampal still remains my favourite. I grew up having referenced Galway, but as I heard him more and more, the less I became amazed at his sound as his vibrato was always the same. Rampal, as he put it, was a bit ham when it came to performing and liked to perform more than he did practice, which I like because (not a good habit, but still), which leads to some imperfections in his final performances, which I like. Not to mention his overall posture, tempos, and style is something I really like as well. It’s not blistering but it’s a little rushed at times, which I like since it goes against a lot of what teachers tell you. But having gotten back into flute recently, it’s really hard to find a teacher that has Rampal’s style and will guide you towards that style of playing. I feel like when I stopped, the general movement of flute playing was more towards that modern, clear, robust sound that I frankly no longer liked despite wanting to pursue it for years. Would love to find to a teacher that encourages playing in a style similar to Rampal.

Loved the Julius Baker "Someone to Watch Over Me"!

Normally I comment after watching a video. However, a few minutes in, and I'm already so impressed. This must have taken ages to produce! The amount of information, the edits, the amount of b-footage. Really excited to continue watching!

@TheFlutePractice

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! This was a HUGE project and only possible because we officially have an amazing editor who did crazy hours to do this. I literally took a screenshot of this comment because it will make his day!

34:03 Omg Tatiana that's me right now!!! I thought I was the only one 🥲. I could never pinpoint the reason why I can't bring myself to listen to flute music and enjoy them fully without feeling...uncomfortable...? Recently when I picked up my flute again after a while of hiatus and decided to actually be serious about playing it, well, I went to find some recordings of flute solos. And guess what, I couldn't listen to them without feeling a bit of pain inside my chest. But! But, when I went through your videos on the channel and gave myself a go, I started to understand how other people (you) view, listen, and describe those flute playings. I might not be anywhere near feeling 100% comfortable listening to flute playings, but I certainly feel better now. Thanks a lot, Tatiana!

Very cool historical presentation! Totally engaging - couldn’t stop watching and listening

@TheFlutePractice

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you :D passing on to our editor because he worked really hard to keep this one engaging with so much footage!

I love to learn about great flute players from the past. thank you Tateana for putting it all togreather.

Came back to listen again to this comprehensive summary of flute players over 100 years. Congratulations on such a detailed commentary and careful presentation with touches of humour. I notice my comment lauding the praises of Jean Pierre Rampal as the best flute player I have ever heard and a brief conversation, defending my opinion seems to have disappeared. Regardless of changes over the years, Jean Pierre Rampal is still the flute player I listen to, above all others. Reading the comments I can see others agree about Jean Pierre Rampal. When I was at school doing the classical flute exams, the only flute player I listened to was Jean Pierre Rampal.

32:30 sebastian jacot wrote on his own channel about the reason he had to play with gold headjoint on wood flute (the wood headjoint was in danger of cracking and he did not want to risk) and although he pulled off the performance brilliantly on that combination of instrument, he preferred the unity to combination (wood on wood, metal on metal)😊

@TheFlutePractice

Жыл бұрын

Interesting!

Thank you so much for this! I have been learning the flute for over 55 years and this a spectacular history lesson for me.

@TheFlutePractice

Жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏 glad you enjoyed it. I really enjoyed creating this and learning from it too

It is great to hear all these players. I love Hans Georg Schmeiser's playing also. It must have been awesome to study with him and just to study in Vienna period.

One player from the US is Doriot Anthony Dwyer. She became principal flute with the Boston Symphony in 1952. She was one of those pioneering women to hold a principal chair when there were not many women in professional orchestras. There is a great video of her playing Afternoon oh the faun with Bernstein conducting on utube. Such a beautiful tone.

@TheFlutePractice

Жыл бұрын

I actually want to do a video just about some of the pioneering women in flute playing and she is top of the list! Very cool life story!

@fltwwq

3 ай бұрын

Dwyer. Doriot Anthony Dwyer :)

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Absolutely fascinating! It is very interesting to hear the unique styles of flute performance over the years. I am particularly interested in vibrato....what is too much and what is just the right amount. Maybe it depends on each flutist's personal style. Excellent video. Thank you for your knowledge.

I've been playing flute for a long time. I think I'm still learning more even these days

Thank you, that was interesting (as are your other videos, the jaw relaxing one was very helpful too). As an old and (very) amateur player of the baroque flute I wonder if that revival and style had anything to do with the change in vibrato use you mention. Maybe players like my favourite Barthold Kuijken had a bit of influence too?

Denis Bouriakov,Ian Clarke,Steve Kujala and Robert Dick deserve attention ,they all gave a lot for the new flutist today*

Zu NICOLETS wunderbarem Flötenton schrieb in den 1970er Jahren eine bekannte Musikkritikerin anlässlich eines Konzertes in Berlin: "Die außerordentliche Verehrung, die sich NICOLET international erworben hat, gilt seiner unfehlbaren Stilsicherheit, mit der er sowohl alte als auch neueste Musik interpretiert, ebenso, wie der Fülle und Klangschönheit seines Flötentones." In the 1970s, a well-known music critic wrote about NICOLET's wonderful flute tone at a concert in Berlin: "The extraordinary admiration that NICOLET has earned internationally is due to his unfailing stylistic confidence with which he interprets both old and new music, as well as the Fullness and beauty of his flute tone." Dans les années 1970, un critique musical bien connu écrivait à propos du merveilleux son de flûte de NICOLET lors d'un concert à Berlin : « L'extraordinaire admiration que NICOLET a suscitée au niveau international est due à l'assurance stylistique sans faille avec laquelle il interprète aussi bien la musique ancienne que la nouvelle. comme la plénitude et la beauté de son son de flûte."

Versatility is the best way to go. You need to be good at many different styles and play many different pieces from different genres and generate many different tone colours to compete in this day and age, which you can't really tell from watching only one video of someone's playing.

I really appreciate your knowledgeable commentary on the selected flute playing. Although the old recordings could be partly at fault, my tastes agree with yours in appreciation of the nuanced colour and vibrato. We're probably both influenced by the prevalence of the changed aesthetic, but there is no doubt, it is gorgeous. Thank you, Tatiana!

That's Andras Adorjan in the Kuhlau quintet video

@TheFlutePractice

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I thought so too! The video had the names in the other order which confused me but what a gorgeous sound!

Thank you for putting this video together it really confirmed my preference for the French "school" of flute playing

Very fun video, thanks! There's a great documentary on the Internet Archive called The Flute in Jazz: Window on World Music you might be interested in watching. Wide variety of techniques. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the difference between classical and jazz players. There are so many ways to approach the instrument.

I subscribe to the 'less is more' style. Vibrato added for shimmer and colour at the discretion of the flutist.

Thanks for doing this video - absolutely fascinating to go through the evolution of flute playing! And for me, nobody can beat Rampal, his sound is just the meltiest, huggiest sound I've ever heard anyone produce on the flute. Just utterly unique!

@luvmyrecords

Жыл бұрын

A box of cylinders that were recorded atop the Eiffel Tower was found several years ago, and many of the records still haven't been played or transferred digitally. Among those recordings is at least one by Tafenal, though we don't know yet if it is playable. Early wax cylinders are prone to mold, and if mold takes over, nothing can be done. Broken records CAN be saved, but it is a laborious process. I'll keep trying to find out what progress, if any, has been made.

20:13 the flutist in green cloth is ransom wilson and the flutist with glasses is andras adorjan😊

@TheFlutePractice

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!!!

What a great video! Loved it. Thank you so much!

In case it hasn't been said, Ranson Wilson, I believe, is the man in the green sweater. I've seen him perform duets with Rampal. Quite a wonderful flutist.

Julius Baker, my hands-down, all time favorite for his tone.

@TheFlutePractice

Жыл бұрын

Absolute treasure! So much color and life in it!

@fltwwq

3 ай бұрын

To be honest, I don't think anyone today can beat or come near to matching the beauty and absolute fluidity of Baker's tone, color palette and controlled vibrato in any register.

@fltwwq

3 ай бұрын

...save for Jeanne Baxtresser, Baker's prize student, a giant in her own right.

Great video! Thanks for doing this.

Thank you for all the work putting this together! Love it.

@TheFlutePractice

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

What a wonderful video ❤

Thanks for this extremely interesting and informative video!! The stylist evolution of flute playing over the years is quite fascinating. One tech note: sometime the music bed underneath your speaking segments is a bit loud and makes it more difficult to understand your words. Otherwise, a terrific video!!

The most famous Nicolet's student is of course, our beloved Emmanuel Pahud 😊

@TheFlutePractice

10 ай бұрын

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They are all great players

Your channel is a new discovery for me, and such a joy! I learned to "play" the flute in the mid-70's, and like you, never really enjoyed listening to flute music. I also never really learned how to practice effectively. I don't know if I was a lazy teenager or if no one ever told me to "play that one measure over & over & over until you get it right"..... so I never got really good. Thankfully, I was in a wonderful wind ensemble in high school where I was exposed to good music and good friends. Now in my winter years of life, I've picked it back up and I enjoy practicing and learning now what I didn't learn back then. My fingers don't move as quickly, so my technique will never be as good, but I have more patience, expressiveness, and joy. I can even eke out Widor's Romance movement of whatever that piece is....(LOL) I'm hoping that I can gain some practical and musical insights from you. Thanks so much. BTW I love your accent and your sense of humor. Keep up the excellent videos.

Perhaps the shift in vibrato is due to the newer flute design and scaling of the flute resulting in a different musical sound.

Flute playing has evolved a lot... However, i feel like the older recordings tend to sound more bright, fast and energetic sound... maybe is something about the accoustic characteristics of the scenarios, or something technical about the style of recording, microphones, etc. Anyway it depends on the tastes of the listener, and of course is it not the same to hear a playing in rel life rather than a recording on youtube and pc speakers

I was so amazed on Jacot’s control and beautiful playing on his KZread video playing Anderson study 3 op15. He’s playing in his home and not on a track or anything and sounds amazing

Hubert Barwahser, former Principal Flute of the early Concertgebouw Orchestra, is my all time favorite player. His beautiful tone and exceptional articulation is fantastic as his hs musicality and phrasing. Fortunately he recorded a fabulous live Mozart concerto and the Mozart flute/harp Concerto with Mengelberg and the Concertgebouw as well as other recordings from the 1930s through the 60s. He generally played on a full wooden flute.

20:30 Andras Adorjan, I love his playing.

27:59 I learnt this piece Love it so much

10:49 totally with you there😄 thta must have been a robot of marcel moyse, and not real human🤣🤣 moyse and his robot practiced 40 hours per day, put together🤣

@TheFlutePractice

Жыл бұрын

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Your flûte culture are very interesting. Thank’s a lot for you video. Perhaps the style and the vibrato of flûte playing change because the breathing are very different, more deep? I discover with you the American way of flute. Do you now the French flutist Sophie Cherrier, Michel Moragues, Juliette Hurel, Frederic Chatoux? A genius Corean flutist Yubeen Kim?

I love this!

George laurent and james pappousatkis they play Boston Symphony

Still waiting for Clara to show up in one of your videos!! And maybe Chiara Tonelli? Good to see Demarre and Sebastian on this list ❤️

@carjamash

Жыл бұрын

Also thanks for introducing me to Carol Wincenc! Gorgeous tone

Doriot Dwyer?? The first woman to become Principal Flute of a major US (world?) orchestra. Incredible rich and projecting tone.

@hellbooks3024

3 ай бұрын

She was a very intelligent and interesting interpreter.

What a great review. And thank you for articulating some things I sensed but couldn’t identify about more modern playing (though I never didn’t like older styles). My favorites: I will always revere Sir James, I grew up with him as my inspiration-and his playing still inspires me …always! I’ve recently fallen in love with Pahoud’s style. That tone! . And I love Jasmine Choi and wish she made the list. I think she’s brilliant.

@TheFlutePractice

6 ай бұрын

She is fantastic. I think she was on my list but we had quite a few in that same time period. I do want to do a full ‘women in flute video as well’. I think there are some pretty cool stories there!

...James Galway spend 6 years in Berlin Philharmonic orchestra from 1969 to 1975. To Karajan's surprise and dismay, after a period of some disagreement, Galway decided that he would leave to pursue a solo career...

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I wish you were playing excerpts of more than a few seconds.

@TheFlutePractice

6 ай бұрын

Me too! Stupid copyright 😤 I believe we put all the links in the description though (I hope we did!!!!)

@davidmdyer838

6 ай бұрын

@@TheFlutePractice ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification.

Is consistent vibrato synonymous with continuous vibrato

Denis buriakov????

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Is that Q from Star Trek?

You studied at mdw? 😮

@TheFlutePractice

Жыл бұрын

I did 😁 only for a short time but learned from Schmeiser for many years!

@hellbooks3024

3 ай бұрын

Though- none of Baker’s student play as well as he did. None.

So Moyse had some throat tension? Really though?

Jean Paul Rampal = best flute player of all time.

@hellbooks3024

3 ай бұрын

I don’t see why anyone would make a statement like that.

@CHRISSSJ8

3 ай бұрын

@@hellbooks3024 I have been playing flute since I was 5 and I have been playing professionally for a long time. Classical, Blues. Jazz, Pop. I have listened to many flute players and Jean Pierre is the best I have ever heard. When he plays, it is as if he is connected to the universe. James Galway has excellent technique but Jean Pierre Rampal's flute playing has something very special that I have never heard in anyone else.

@fltwwq

3 ай бұрын

In his early recordings find his CPE Bach concertos (a, Bb and G) with Karl Ristenpart and La Sarre Chamber orch. Truly spectacular - I have never heard fast tonguing like this, esp. in the a minor, and clean virtuosic, stylistic playing such as in this recording. Do NOT confuse with his remake (heard on radio in mid-90s), definitely not the same quality, where he indulges in playing as part of the G major slow mvt cadenza, the Brahms 4th symphony last mvt's flute solo (!!!??) which left me scratching my head.