London just announced end of 25 the EV sheep will be paying the same London congestion charge as a old diesel….LMAO….all these fools spent 10’s thousands in a EV….to find out they will have to pay to drive it in London…brilliant just brilliant

@plank770

4 күн бұрын

And they will be paying road tax from 2025 😂

@spice3767

4 күн бұрын

@@plank770 Yha great isn’t it…fools and there money…and all that 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@stevemartin7464

3 күн бұрын

The thing about London is what they are making is essentially a rich mans playground; keeping the schlubs and peasants out and only allowing guys who couldn't care if they pay 25 pounds a day or whatever it is in. I was in London recently and I noticed that the ratio of expensive cars to average cars has changed; the rich are being made more comfortable by keeping us poor guys out.

Buying a ev ? Big mistake. Buying a French ev ? Wtf, give your head a wobble.

@nathansmith7153

4 күн бұрын

Only if you are clueless

@focusedman5759

4 күн бұрын

That made me howl😂😂😂😂

@brucemitchell5637

4 күн бұрын

​@@nathansmith7153why so butt hurt little fella? Did you just find out what the resale value of your EV is? BAHAHAHAHA!!! 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

@scoobyflew

3 күн бұрын

It does boggle me, typically on many French cars the least reliable "parts" are the electrics! Why would you buy a car with the most reliable components removed?

I can see the Lawyers lining up in a few years. “Did you buy an electric car between 2018 & 2026? If you did, call this number now. We can help with your financial misery”.

@johnflavin1602

4 күн бұрын

If so, .......... you may be entitled to COMPENSATION. 😀

@rogerhargreaves2272

4 күн бұрын

@@johnflavin1602 that’s better! 😂

@soundssimple1

4 күн бұрын

I agree. If Manufacturers can lie about emissions and fiddle electronics, and lie about MPG figures for decades they can probably lie about EV miles capability. Just another example of an industry screwing and shafting its customers then shutting them out.

Mr Beswick you should have told the Renault dealer to drive you 290 miles on one charge to prove it wasn’t your driving

@douglasalexander4348

4 күн бұрын

Start 290 miles away and then make the dealer walk any deficit miles back to the shop.

@VincentComet

3 күн бұрын

@@douglasalexander4348 😂😂😂😂

‘Cut the cord’. Break free and ditch the EV…!

@nathansmith7153

4 күн бұрын

Screw you. My EVs WORK FINE.

The range numbers are so off I wouldn't be surprised this will end up in class action suits all over the world.

@cjmillsnun

4 күн бұрын

No different to the MPG figures.

@Stevesixty7

4 күн бұрын

It's massively different to mpg figures.

@Stormy177

4 күн бұрын

​@@Stevesixty7 How so? If you looked at the headline mpg figure for your car, multiplied it by the capacity of your fuel tank in gallons, then compared that figure to the mileage you're actually getting from a tank of fuel, you'd probably discover that your mileage was far less than the range you'd calculated. The difference being that refuelling is relatively quick and there's an established network of fuel stations, so you're very rarely too far from being able to refuel, so 'range anxiety' is not really a thing with ICE vehicles.

@WeeShoeyDugless

3 күн бұрын

​​@@cjmillsnun Nobody pays attention to mpg figures on a new ice car purchase, not really, as they know they will NEVER have range anxiety. BUT, I would wager that EVERYONE who is buying a new EV, one of the 1st (if not THE 1st) questions they will ask is " What range will the battery give?"😂😂

@DwaynePipes

3 күн бұрын

What is the level of range anxiety for these drivers During June, July and August, there were 1,582 instances of drivers running out of petrol or diesel on motorways across the country. ​@@WeeShoeyDugless

Sounds like the dealers are in denial, like lots of people about lots of hyped-up nonsense.

@ralphwindsor9113

4 күн бұрын

The political class - Labour. Tory, Lib Dem, SNP, Green - are in denial too. Only Reform and SDP have not drunk the BEV koolaid. The manufacturers went along with it too because they smelled easy bucks as everyone had to replace their ICEs. Even Autocar, for more than a century the petrolheads' weekly has lost its way. But now the revolt is under way. The buyers are wising up to all the net zero bullshit from the political and trade liars.

@jtc1947

4 күн бұрын

@ste12d.....People latching on to this GREEN NEW FANTASY are addicts of the BANDAR-LOG MANTRA! ( see Rudyard Kipling)

@stevenmoran4060

4 күн бұрын

The dealers are not in denial, they are getting big fines because they aren’t hitting the government imposed sales for EV’s each month. They know the cars aren’t the answer. I have a Renault Austral hybrid, I get just under 800 miles per 55 litres of petrol thanks to the hybrid being in use most of the time when town driving. I just turned up the recharge a couple of notches to create more energy regeneration. Only a fool buys an EV, they always quote it’s cheaper to charge at home and it is but, it takes hours to recharge to get your 200 or so range. Not exactly handy if for any reason you need to go out again just after plugging in your car is it? Whereas I can refuel in under 5 minutes every 6 weeks or so.

@Cheeky-fingers

3 күн бұрын

Dealers are stuffed. I suspect a lot of franchises are wondering how long they can stay in business. Labour are going to bring back the 2030 ban. 5.5 years is not very far away.

I'm 57, and I can remember a science class that I was in when I was 15, and the talk was about electric cars. One of my mates said, and it sticks with me to this day, "I hope I'm gone by then". He's still with us, but yes, they weren't wanted before they became a thing. I'll never own one.

@unvaxxeddoomerlife6788

4 күн бұрын

I'm still driving a 5.0L V8 and I'm happy . I'll never own an EV.

@jhelotes5627

4 күн бұрын

I’m 59 and love my 2021 MYP. In my science classes I dreamed of a high tech future and Tesla delivers.

When they test mileage, no wind, hills, acceleration, heater, A/C, wipers, radio, turn signals, headlights, heavy loads like potting mix, passengers, so when the elderly man wants the dealer to explain. The dealer should tell him sorry sir, mileage claims on new cars are a total lie.

To me this kills the case for EVs, lousy range even when claimed and worse still on the road.

@jtc1947

4 күн бұрын

@ Charon ? I have heard / seen info that a lot of the RANGE figures are outright LIES! And notice that the EV stickers only give 1 range figure while ICE vehicles give MPG for CITY driving versus OPEN ROAD!

@mikldude9376

4 күн бұрын

@@jtc1947Let me tell you a joke , one of the world cars of the year 2024 , is an EV SUV that that weighs 2.4 tons MT 😊 , it gets claimed 250 miles or 400 k`s before you start to put family and groceries , etc , etc 😂 , and that range as it gets older is going to shrink 😂 , if theres a head wind or hills its going to get worse again 😂😂😂😂😂😂the vehicle costs over $100,000 😂😂😂😂😂 . Our 10 year old diesel SUV did a proven 1000 kilometres between fills with family in it and cost half the price 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 . These Ev fan boys want to talk about how efficient EVs are and how ICE cars engines make power and are not technically efficient 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 , the old saying ……. You cant fix stupid 😢.

@ImLivinSD

4 күн бұрын

@@mikldude9376spot on, you can’t fix stupid. These evangelists must not get their fingers dirty like ever. As I will fix anything keeping my Tahoe on the road to avoid these ridiculous 1,000+ dollar car payments for a depreciating asset that will eventually break that I am not allowed to fix and can’t unless I get an electrical engineering degree.

@oldgit15

Күн бұрын

​@@mikldude9376 What is it about the laws of physics that makes you think that they don't apply to your diesel?

I bought my EV just over 8 years ago, it has now still only done slightly more than 40 k miles, yet the battery degradation is 42%. It has never been rapid charged too much or left at 100% for long periods, which is the normal retort when degradation occurs. The fact is all EV lithium ion batteries degrade with time and use cycles. It is just what they do. I was curious about EV's, but my curiosity has now been satisfied. The result is that in my experience, EV's are just not fit for purpose, and I will never buy another EV ever again !

@paulsimpson8990

4 күн бұрын

What brand is it? Nissan leaf with the air cooled battery?

@WeeShoeyDugless

3 күн бұрын

​​@@paulsimpson8990 Doesn't really matter which model it is, degradation of the compound of the batteries is a given, FACT! It just is and no argument about it. Whether it is a tesla or a leaf, they all degrade through time. Supercharging your batter just helps it degrade quicker. So, the small difference in time you save charging shall ultimately cost you more in the long run when you need a new battery. Tell me I'm wrong?

@paulsimpson8990

3 күн бұрын

@@WeeShoeyDugless agreed 👍 but you have to also realise that because Tesla is connected all the time they gather that data and use it to adjust the bms. They have proven to be pretty robust and I am hoping that the lfp cars are even better. Mine is sitting at 4% after 74000km. If it does 300,000km before dropping before dropping to 10% I’ll be happy. Not disagreeing with you though

@BlackBuck777

3 күн бұрын

@@paulsimpson8990 agree with your opinion. Reading the other comments it's as if ICE cars are perfect, work well in the cold, suffer no degradation and cost nothing. Many years and 40-odd cars down the line I can tell you that's absolute b*ll*cks. Example - I've just replaced the knackered front suspension on one of my other (ICE) cars and that cost almost as much as an EV battery!. Don't even start me on engine troubles.. I also have an EV, I did my homework before buying and I'm very happy with it.

@paulsimpson8990

3 күн бұрын

@@BlackBuck777 bang on. I’ve had oil leaks, blown diffs, gearboxes, head gaskets, radiation’s etc etc etc etc. spent tens of thousands over the past 30 years not to mention my fuel costs. So far my Tesla has given me the least grief of any of them 👍

I have no problem with EVs and probably could make use of one on a limited basis. I just don't want to be told to have to buy one predicated upon a fallacy.

@Retirement_Life

3 күн бұрын

Exactly!

@markleeming1786

3 күн бұрын

Nobody TOLD me to buy my EV. I studied what type of car that we need at present, I think that I am over revving up the V8 at the lights and leaving two black lines along the road. I love a steady run now, no need to rush anywhere and I love my lattes. So I thought that I would try an EV, at the moment I think it is costing me in "fuel/energy" just over 1.5p per mile. On the other hand the Merc costs me around 25p per mile just on petrol. Here is something to ponder ! my EV will slow itself down to the speed limits and roundabouts etc, without myself using the brakes, does that mean the disc's and pads will last longer ?

Add to that the number of insurance write offs caused by relatively minor damage to battery enclosures requiring replacement batteries. It's going to be quite a while before I consider going electric.

@nathansmith7153

4 күн бұрын

Well thanks for trashing the planet

@OM617a

4 күн бұрын

If you keep, maintain and repair everything you possess at this time, that is the best you can do for the enviroment. Reject disposable landfill fodder.

@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC

4 күн бұрын

@@nathansmith7153 Yes, because demanding that consumers purchase unrepairable products is so good for the environment. Always lie, always project, right comrade?

@brucemitchell5637

4 күн бұрын

​@@nathansmith7153don't forget to mention the best part of owning a EV, little fella, you get to exploit forced child labour in foreign countries! Isn't that fantastic!? BAHAHAHAHA!!!! 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

@iandennis7836

4 күн бұрын

Well, just thinking aloud here but your chances of an accident are greatly reduced by defensive driving.......boring I know, but zipping about everywhere does increase the risk of misadventures.....and thinking about it, probably doesn't benefit the range, either.....

Batteries perform even less well when the weather is cold. A lot less well.

@chrishart8548

4 күн бұрын

It's not that bad probably 20-30 miles difference. I leave with 80% get back with 54% anyway after driving 100miles. Sometimes I get back with almost 200 miles still. I drove 168 miles after charging to 100% and still had 50% left.

@ImLivinSD

4 күн бұрын

@@chrishart8548agreed that is not too bad. Alas had the Govt, Tesla and all the others EV manufacturers brought their testing standards up to ICE standards and not lied so much the deception is also part of the issue. As if they lied about the Price, range, Ins, Fire, Manufacturing processes for minerals etc what else have they lied about.?

@oldgit15

Күн бұрын

​@@ImLivinSD What have they lied about?

@ammass321

14 сағат бұрын

@@ImLivinSD check up on cortisol levels after being exposed to huge electromagnetic field. They are off the charts.

The ignorance on EV is just astonishing 😮‍💨….

Once Macron is gone, the Paris accord will fall and all regulations for pushing full electric by 2035 will be cancelled... It is impossible to anyhow even provide electricity if all cars where electric, you would need 1 EXTRA nuclear power plant per every 1.5 million citizens, (which is di per se an utopia) The downside though is that used car market especially like the 911 will tank by 70 % (one third of current asking prices), but the good news is that new car prices will also fall down as consequence. The whole thing about electric vehicles was about that if you owned a petrol car after 2035, you could only purchased it o the used market from private citizen to private citizen, so not even through dealers AND IF YOU DID BUY AN ELECTRIC VEHILCE>>>> WELL YOU WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BUY ONE BUT ONLY RENT. This is all history now and by 2026, the law amendments will come in place and the whole EV BS will be gone for good.

@suecharnock9369

4 күн бұрын

I would NEVER buy a second hand EV - even if it had a dealers lifetime battery guarantee! you just do NOT know how that battery has been treated. Kerb your car - the battery might have been affected. Run over some debris on the road, or down a pot hole? - the battery might be damaged. There is no way I would want that spontaneously explosive vehicle any where near my house. There are more than enough videos out there to show these things can go from smoke to explosive flames in under two minutes. And the government is forcing disabled people to have them as disability cars!!! In a wheel chair? dont worry about getting out of hte house, the extremely toxic smoke will get you first.

@OM617a

4 күн бұрын

@@suecharnock9369 There is another issue with mobility cars all being electric, once again the taxpayer is propping up this fraudulent technology. I am glad there is help for those that need it, but it should be in a form that offers value.

@bordersw1239

4 күн бұрын

Would be interested to see your maths on an extra nuclear power station for every 1.5 million people.

@OM617a

4 күн бұрын

@@bordersw1239 I cannot speak for the original commenter, but the resting rate of consumtion for the average household is 200 watts (Boiler controller, items on standby and fridge freezer etc). The draw of a tesla charger is 11,500 watts, this is a significant increase and doesn't take into account superchargers or multi phase chargers. Edit- watts per hour.

@bordersw1239

4 күн бұрын

@@OM617a . That’s if your house has a charger capable of that output - most home chargers in the U.K are 7KW. The average daily mileage is about 20 in the U.K so for many a top up for one hour per day or one overnight charge per week.

I’d be upset if I won an EV. Electric is not the answer.

@nathansmith7153

4 күн бұрын

What is then?

@pettigrewtristan

4 күн бұрын

"Then” can act as a conjunction. It links ideas or parts of a sentence that show a sequence or a result.

@bigmatt2896

4 күн бұрын

V8'S​@@nathansmith7153

@brucemitchell5637

4 күн бұрын

​@@nathansmith7153what's the resale value of your EV, little fella? BAHAHAHAHA!!!! 😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

@owainbennett663

4 күн бұрын

@@brucemitchell5637 Nathan is right. Electric has range issues (at the moment) Hydrogen is cumbersome and not that readily available. Fuel will be come more expensive and is toxic. What is the next step ?

You can get stress for free, why would you want to pay for it by purchasing a battery powered car?

I retained my petrol car at the start of all this and as it is a Toyota it is still running perfectly. I have no plans to change until the current nonsense is resolved

Looking to the future I can see a lot of EV's being 'stolen' or 'trashed' if you catch my drift. This is not a suggestion nor offering an exit plan for some, But I really think with the Insurance Premiums on EV's being thru the roof, I think the Insurance industry are already ahead of this. That's also why all us petrol and diesel folk are paying thru the nose with renewal premiums being up 40 to 50% on last year. The NON EV drivers are already paying the cost of the failed EV EXPERIMENT. We have ALL been shafted.

Mate has just taken delivery of a polestar 2 he phoned me after travelling 50 miles his words this is the absolute pile of excrement

@paulsimpson8990

4 күн бұрын

Why would he buy a Chinese EV? Should have bought a Tesla

@derekferguson385

2 күн бұрын

@@paulsimpson8990Tesla’s are ugly. ☹️

An EV instead of my straight 6? No thanks!

Nothings going to change with manufacturers claims about range/mpg…. How can you drive around a test track at a constant 56mph and come out with some super duper figures that is not reality . I run a van and have yet to see a review of a electric van with it fully loaded , like in the real world ,

@chrishart8548

4 күн бұрын

We have electric vans a work they have to charge to 100% just to get the 100 miles in the summer and that an empty van. I did 74 miles in my car and still had 229 left. Electric vans just don't work.

only good for MILK FLOATS MATE

@Dherkin_McGhurken

4 күн бұрын

Milk Floats and the original Cyber Truck the Hammerhead Eagle i-Thrust aka Geoff.

@dave710

Күн бұрын

​@@Dherkin_McGhurken Fork lifts

Like your opening example, similar experience with my Renault Zoe and my replacement MG5 second generation. Stated range is not the actual range . Summer range is not maintained in the winter months when temps drop to 0c to 10c. Car garaged overnight. This is blatant misrepresentation by the dealer/manufacturer. My driving style is old git in Eco mode. We need a class action for each offending manufacturer.

@oldgit15

19 сағат бұрын

Off you go then. All you have to do is disprove the industry standard WLTP formula and show it to be deliberately misleading. Or you could try to understand the laws of physics.

@kjh789az

16 сағат бұрын

@@oldgit15 So helpful. 🤪

When the manufacturers come up with the idea of ev's, do they think " how brill an ev" and then go off like a bolted horse into the future and realise years later that a horse would go further.

@nathansmith7153

4 күн бұрын

Because in the hands of intelligent people they work JUST FINE.

@yarrik701

4 күн бұрын

​@@nathansmith7153, yeah, they do take quite a bit of maintenance and care, but if you need to get from point A to B, horses will get you there just fine. XD

@brucemitchell5637

4 күн бұрын

​@@nathansmith7153where does the electricity come from to charge the battery in your EV little fella? BAHAHAHAHA!!!! 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

@oldgit15

19 сағат бұрын

​@@brucemitchell5637 You might want to take more water with it. Just an idea.

A bad solution to an imaginary problem.

and if you can’t charge at home….

Electric cars are a waste of money, and they are dangerous. I live in Tasmania, Australia, and if you own an electric car, you are shit out of luck when it comes to changing . On a trip to Western Australia, we came across 20 electric cars on the side of the road with no battery charge left in the car.

How can he call himself a engineer when he gets a EV?

@davefitzpatrick4841

4 күн бұрын

As an engineer he'd be aware that EVs are just from a physics perspective far more efficient with energy, and ICE car wastes 70% of it's energy producing heat and noise and with around 2000 moving parts ( that often go wrong) whereas an EV is around 90% efficient at using energy with only around 20 moving parts.

@SuperBartet

4 күн бұрын

@@davefitzpatrick4841 Well you are not a engineer that is a fact. You just don't know what you are talking about, and stating a load of false facts. Everything you say is wrong, you are telling porkies or just believing the propaganda you have seen on the net.

@haydnlawrence8167

4 күн бұрын

Just like some doctors took the new flu jab .

@bunsw2070

4 күн бұрын

EVs use more energy then ICE cars and are worse for the environment (unless you found and electricity Fairy). They also are 2 to 3 times more likely to breakdown and are very difficult and expensive to repair. But if you want to keep getting your boosters, nobody can stop you.

@paulsimpson8990

4 күн бұрын

I’m a mechanical engineer and my Tesla model 3 gets the exact range as advertised over 74000km. His only mistake was buying a Renault. The issue is that not all electric cars are created equal and Tesla has a 10 year jump on most of them when it comes to efficiency, functionality, technology etc. Car companies have had 100+ years to copy each other so the engineering is pretty similar these days although a Kia is still a long way behind a bmw when it comes to efficiency. No different for EVs, brands vary

What was Mr Beswick thinking? He must be driving in winter which is not covered by the car's specs. He should know that an EV's range falls in cold weather.

I run both an EV and an oil burner. If I had to have only one, it would be the oil burner hands down.

It’s refreshing to hear a Scottish voice which is not negative.

Not have ev even if free

@reer5340

4 күн бұрын

if it was free, I might actually.... 🙂

Its amazing. I do the calculation with a normal drive for me (about 280 miles one way) with no super chargers available en route and inevitably the comment is "most people only drive 30 miles a day!" Great. For everyone else who actually needs the transport the EV just won't cut the mustered. It gets worse considering charging limitations. Most homes cannot support charging an EV or would require extensive upgrades to do so. This push to turn everything into an EV is just madness.

Well my Scottish friend I have seen this story somewhere else before and I had to have a smirk when I first heard it. Now I live in Australia (originally born and bred in Sussex) and frankly this story is so true to what is going to happen out here as the distances as you may appreciate are much greater than in the UK if especially you live in a rural like I do in NSW. For example my regular shopping trip is an 80kms plus (50 miles) and that is often twice a week. Now if I want to travel to say Sydney my trip would be a round trip (plus any distance travelled while there) of 800kms (500 miles)!! That would cause me so much anxiety about the range and given the lack of charging infrastructure out here simply could make one completely certifiable. If it is of any interest or comfort to the old country our current government out here is hell bent on net zero and this EV insanity and frankly the whole issue is a hideous nonsense.

It amazes me how so many ev drivers protest and complain on this channel, it adds so much weight to the pro ice perspective. If we were wrong why would they bother? Nobody approaches flat earthers to convince them that the earth is a sphere.

@oldgit15

19 сағат бұрын

It's called 'challenging drivel', and it's done so that anyone seeking actual facts in order to make an informed choice can find them.

@OM617a

17 сағат бұрын

@@oldgit15 You mean for balance? The whole planet is spinning out pro EV rhetoric, it turns out they are so good they are going to be mandated to force people who want a new vehicle to buy them. On a level playing field with fair taxation the market would sort it out with no need for draconian laws.

Surprisingly despite all that negative news...the monthly SMMT figures are out today. Diesel sales down, petrol sales down, BEV sales up, PHEV sales up. HEV sales up. The message isn't getting through.😢

Serves him right for buying a French P.O.S...EV or not... The problem ive got is that driving isnt fun anymore, theyve sucked the enjoyment out of it. I used to drive for a living, im now office based and I now despise it when ive got to cover a route if a drivers off sick.

Maybe in 25 years with a different battery technology and nuclear power stations, but there again, perhaps not.

I have been around a long time, 7 decades long in fact. On a technical note, all these battery cars seem to have the "touch screen" in the middle of the car, you know where the radio/8track used to sit in cars made back in civilised times. At about the time I am recalling, some folks bought new fangled miniature tv's to sit on their dashboards. The result was a lack of due diligence road safety wise. TV's were banned in the front of cars! So can someone explain to me, if, as shown, taking your eyes off the road to watch Benny Hill chase some scantily clad lasses around a field is a bad idea, how come on these monstrosities you have to spend so much time looking at a tv screen in order to select all the functions that were on handily placed switches, accessible without taking your eyes off the road

E V stands for Educational Vehicle as one of these is a real education in trying to get around.

EV'S =sH1TE

Try telling the government. Net zero will be forced upon us .

@nathansmith7153

4 күн бұрын

Because you are trashing the planet - DUH.

@wideyxyz2271

4 күн бұрын

No it won't. We are in charge, not the government, and the sooner people realise that the better things will be.

@Baz_R

4 күн бұрын

@@wideyxyz2271 My thoughts exactly. In the unbelievable events we ALL stood together and said no to something, what could they do.

@iareid8255

2 күн бұрын

Sooner probably than later, the government will find that net zero is not possible with their policies.

My dealer tried to get me to go electric when I renewed my Motability contract I did manage to get a 1500 cc diesel out of them, once the sales man got to know me better even he slated the ev market saying much the same as you highlighted in this post the salesman had a petrol over electric company car and he would only run his company car on ....... PETROL, thank's for your video your highlighting the pitfalls of having a ev.

The thing that amuses me about electric cars is that we are told that they work best between 20 and 80 percent so that’s 20 per cent off your expected range before you set off

On the flipside of the depreciation there are some genuine bargains to be had at the moment, if you can live with the range and charging hassle.

@keithhooper6123

4 күн бұрын

£70,000 new ,3 year old Jaguar F Pace EV, now £26,000. Ex lease. Who can heard that sort of depreciation? Not many private buyers.

@wideyxyz2271

4 күн бұрын

If you can live with the range and the charging hassle, why the fek would you need a car in the first place?

The claims are based on flat road at temperatures around 26 C, in other words ideal conditions for EVs. Compare that with Scotland ...

I filled up with diesel, the gauge said "900 Klm unitl enpty" 100 Meters down the road it went to "700 Klm until empty" Should I burn the vehicle and get compensation ?

If you are stuck with an EV and have paid 50% of your vehicle loan. Check your finance agreement. There normally is a clause that allows you to terminate the agreement and return the car if you have paid the first 50%. This is called a voluntary termination. I have done this in the past, and it didn't affect my credit score.

Imagine if he had a lead foot and into a headwind. What would he get, 75 range? EVs got a long way to go.

@owainbennett663

4 күн бұрын

He probably did, but we will never know the real facts.

Wait until a long vold period comes; see what the range is then. But why buy? Expensive, heinous depreciation, heavy insurance costs, range anxiety, did I mention range anxiety ( how does one seriously plan a long trip?), charging issues etc, etc….just why?

The quoted mileage on a full charge should be how far you can get carrying a family of 4 in the dead of winter with the heater on, lights on, wipers on and radio on. When I can get from Newcastle to London without stopping under those conditions then I'll consider one!

I have just bought a 2.0 tdt Passat with 46k on the clock and drove it down to Cornwall from Glasgow. 10 hours without out refueling and a 30 minutes stop. 250 miles range still left in the tank. Beat that ev lolvers.

I find it fascinating just how bad an EV is outside a very narrow use case. What is even more interesting is how the enthusiast EV owner make so many excuses for their car’s obvious limitations. Yet there are now numerous stories like this from disgruntled EV owners who believed the lies they were told. I live in rural Western Australia and I can assure you EV’s are an abysmal choice if you want to do any country driving to anywhere other than Perth. I have had EV drivers trying to tell me that an EV would be just fine for how I use a car. They find it impossible to believe the paucity of charging infrastructure away from the major highways. They also don’t want to accept that the electrical infrastructure in rural WA just won’t cope with a huge increase in demand. EV’s are like Ducatis from the 1970’s a niche product that the overwhelming majority of consumers consider to be completely unsuitable for their needs. But don’t tell a fan oy that.

Heres one from Australia. From Sydney to Tamworth is 400km. My 4ltr ford falcon will easily cover this distance in approx. 5 hours(with a 30 min break for toilet/food) and still have about 150/200kms left in the tank. This is driving at the posted speed, 110 kms on motorways and 100kms on open road. I have not heard of an EV that manage that distance in one bite. This is on main highways. More outback roads and you may well be looking at 2, 3, 4 hours between garages who will not have EV charging points and are unlkkely to get them put in any time soon. This is food for thought in a county like Austrslia.

How can anyone in this day and age, be unaware of the pitfalls regarding EV's.? The frightening thing, is that these idiots are actually allowed to vote!

There will need to be a massive technology leap to make electric vehicles work

How can you not love a Scottish accent :)

I’ve got a Mini Cooper s 5 door. Spent the last four days driving around North Yorkshire for a birthday trip. Drove almost 420 miles on a full tank. Not bad for a 2 litre with a 9 gallon tank. When an electric car can do that for real around the same size vehicle I’ll consider it. Otherwise I’ll leave it thanks.

I'm Keeping my 17 y/o V6 as long as I can. The range has not decreased over time. On a Melbourne to Sydney run (900 km appx 9.5 hrs) I know that I'll get l 700+ km, no matter what the weather is doing, it takes 3 minutes to refuel no need to worry about where the next refuel stop is. With 4 up and a 100kg electric wheelchair in the back. Try that in an EV

I just read that Thai EV drivers are finding it difficult to get insurance. Insurance companies don't like the very high repair costs of EVs. In a country that has some of the most dangerous roads in the world, and consequently many accidents and repairs, this is a valid reservation. These things get through tyres twice as quickly as ICU cars, and eventually, you're left with something that has no residual value. No thanks.

All of these range estimates are nonsense. They don’t account for how vehicles are being used in the real world. When they create those range estimates they want to sell the car and tell you you’ve got as many miles per charge as possible. Not ‘please turn off the heaters and drive in eco-mode to get the max range of the vehicle when driven conservatively’ but realistically when you’ve got two kids and a boot full of shopping and you’ve got the heaters on as it’s a cold winter morning and then you look at your range estimate, no wonder it’s half. 😅 when they can do 1000 Miles per charge I’ll be happy, as I know I can sacrifice 100 miles of range a day to use the car as an actual car.

Even the full claimed ranges are inadequate for my uses. Only 2/3 would be hopeless.

I think the chap lived in the Peak District with all its lovely steep hills.

The company I work for bought a couple of EV Citroen vans. It's windy and hilly here and we're lucky if we can get 50 miles from fully charged. Fkn rip off.

If you live in London or any other big city, have a space to charge the vehicle and use the car for short commuting or shopping, then EV's make sense. For the rest of the 99% of us they are as useful as a chocolate teapot.

Driving style? Like when you put your foot on the accelerator?

WTF electric cars were never going to become the mainstream.

This has got around as this case was mentioned on M GUY EV news in Australia

@paulsimpson8990

4 күн бұрын

When there is only one story it tends to get reused a lot 😂

Nithing to with EVs, but a few years ago I had a twin cylinder motorbike. Twice something broke in the engine (can't recall what) and the garage said it was my fault as I didn't know how to ride a twin (it wasn't my first twin). The bike was off the road for weeks until it was found that it was a manufacturing issue affecting certain bikes. Fecking garages! 😡

No it is Mr Bestwick’s fault, he bought a milk float but is attempting to drive it like a car. Firstly as little as 60% of the battery range is an available for driving: never let it fall below 20% and never charge beyond 80% if you want to preserve the most expensive part of the vehicle (the battery). Best mileage will only be found at very low speeds. Stick to the 20mph zones and you’ll be fine!

Volvo has dropped the XC30 Electric thing . Things are coming to a head - Oh dear !

What I would have said to the Garage is right let's charge it up and go for a drive because you are calling me a liar.

I had to make the choice in late May full EV or other, I live fairly rural West Highlands , every week for the last 4 weeks we’ve had road long closures due to accidents with some diversions being in excess of 100 miles, with an elderly mother on the east coast decided EVs not for me, well the ones I could afford were not for me.

@chrishart8548

4 күн бұрын

100mile diversion that's insane. Good job it's not a 20mph limit that would take over 5 hours. If I had a 100 mile didiversion I would probably book a hotel

@hozzer68

4 күн бұрын

@@chrishart8548 yep those big mountains whilst nice to look at are a real bugger to drive round 🤣

Interesting. I bought a Kia eNiro 3 years ago. Kia claim a range of 455km. I regularly exceed this and have had no problems. No way would I go back to an ICE car- each to their own I suppose.

Thank goodness for sub titles.

Don't they normally recommend charging to 80% and not going below 20% as it effects the longevity of the battery. So on a car with 280miles range, it's really only 224miles if charged to 80%?

@tonymaloan

3 күн бұрын

You have only reduced the top 20%, the bottom 20% is also 56 miles so 168 ? If it is cold it will reduce further, if you use heat or a/c etc. down again.

EV's, an illogical solution to an imaginary problem. These toy cars are not ready to replace ICE vehicles and may never be.

Ev's the biggest scam of the decade so far.

What people need to realise is, the tech that's in these EV cars, the companies have had it for at least 50 yrs. I'm sure they have far more advanced tech that could easy be made available so everyone could drive an ev with the same standards or better than you get with a petrol or diesel. However, due to greed and control, this won't happen.

@chrishart8548

4 күн бұрын

What tech do you think they have. The batteries are best available with current technology.

Have you noticed the tendency to double down on the lie by EV promoting companies, governments, consultants and anyone with 'skin' in the game?

The only person I know who actually has an EV plus investing in a home charger is actively unhappy with it. The 3 years are up in a couple of months and so is their use of a BEV, it's going back. Another person I know was ordering an EV because they'd swallowed the lie that EVs are becoming inevitable and it fits their short distance local travel - and already has a charger for the other half's plugin hybrid - but àfter talking to their friends & neighbours has cancelled the order and sticking with the diesel. Partly because they do multi hundred mile family trips several rimes a year to widely geographically dispersed family. No electric can do that. Not one. On the other hand I have met two users of Teslas who do low mileage commutes (less than 100 miles return) never doing long trips and have the space and money to have chargers at home. They're perfectly happy. Personally i'll never drive one. For a start how can it even be legal to have to take your eyes off the road to scroll a menu on a control panel for basic functions like lights and heating when it's illegal if you do that on a phone for entertainment? By the time I've found out where to turn off the stifling heater I've crashed into the vehicle in front, or worse a baby/child or elderly or disabled person. Doesn't bear thinking about (yuk 😮🤬)

@paulsimpson8990

4 күн бұрын

I do 1000km a week in my Tesla for a total cost of $10

@warringtonminge4167

4 күн бұрын

​@@paulsimpson8990 I'm sure there are lots of happy EV users but I can't see me doing it. I can't be arsed stopping on command of the battery instead of my bladder, nor loading up a dozen charge company apps so that when the car decides to go into battery emergency mode I can use the next stop - if I can find it. At least with my two ICEs if I run out there's a gallon can in the boot and I'm on my way whatever the conditions. Besides, now I'm a pensioner, I will never be able to afford a BEV, nor the £1000s for the home charging stuff. My two proper cars will see me through and because they already exist I won't destroy the planet by having a whole new BEV manufactured to replace them.

@paulsimpson8990

4 күн бұрын

@@warringtonminge4167 I’m 50 and my Tesla is the 17th car I have owned and all of them were ICE. It is probably the best car I have ever owned to be honest. Comfort, handling, quiet, cheap to own, reliable so far. Modern ICE cars in comparison are expensive for what they are. Petrol here is over $2 / L and the servicing costs are high even though I have typically always serviced my cars myself.

Someone recently said we will look back in 20 years at EVs like Betamax

@markleeming1786

3 күн бұрын

Possibly, and then again we may look back at the old CRT Tv's and compare then with todays TV.

@keithward233

2 күн бұрын

Could be . But I don't see its the answer unless we build more power stations as we are supposed to all get heat pumps too . Or the car numbers drop . Oh and upgrade the supply network in the streets to cope with the demand.

My dirty diesel just passed emissions test so it can't be dirty can it.

Hello guys, I need some help. I am looking for a car (I will put the details below). I wanted to know if it is a good option (I don't understand anything about cars, I know some DSG gear boxes have problems, but I don't have the knowledge to know if the gearbox in this car might have a defect and that is why I am asking this question, thanks in advance!!). Audi A3 Sportback 2.0 (1 968 cm3) TDi DSG 140cv 2007/04 190.200 km

Lithium ion batteries were designed for small devices like mobile phones and laptops, even then after a couple of years of use their capacity has degraded, which is one of the reasons they are still used in mobile phones as it gives a good a reason for people to throw them out and buy a new phone every few years. Putting thousands of lithium ion batteries in a car with many of them wired in series so if one goes dodgy you've then lost a load more in that same series, is the worst idea anyone had. You then end up burning a lot of power on just carting the weight of the batteries around. Do people really think their car uses green or renewable energy? What is most likely, when you buy your new EV and plug it in to charge, do they immediately erect a new wind turbine or add a dozen more solar panels to the solar farm for it to get green energy, or do they just ramp up the gas fired power station to compensate for the extra draw on the grid?

Not to mention the loss of freebies coming soon, including free LEZ going next year and RFL coming next year....all on top of charging fees at public chargers.

@stulop

4 күн бұрын

Congestion charge in Dec 2025. Rfl will be payable by April 2026, as we will all renew for free for the last full year next March.

Its sad, sad that the way Evs have been touted has been too hyped and it simply isnt realistic. If EVs had been slowly introduced and made simple and convenient to start with, looking for niches where they may make sense (I'm not sure where those might be), then the disapointment and anger would be less, I just feel that there has been a rush into EVs where the people pushing them have wilfully ignored the obvious shortcomings and have then tried to cover those by doing things like giving unsustainable subsidies. The motor companies are victims here; they are caught between a rock and a hard place as they are forced to try and hit ridiculous targets,.

The next government is completely fixed on EV's and will make life very difficult for us fossils who can see that whilst this this is not the ultimate future, EV's are not the answer. I have just bought a new BMW M340d and this does 48 mpg day in and day out with a tank range of 600 miles. Even my BMW dealer said don't buy an EV (he knew I wouldn't anyway), but dealers are being forced to sell the EV 'dream' because of government policy and it is failing. They fail on every level including range, repairability, insurance cost, massive and instant depreciation and they are a fire risk. Case made and closed. Wake up out there!

I suppose EVs are alright under certain conditions, such as the majority of trips being short or within town. But in my case an EV would be impossible. I'm often over at my sisters, a 500 kilometre drive that takes about 4 hours. With an EV it would be a 6 to 8 hour trip. Or this coming weekend we're off to Munich from Berlin, a 7 hour drive in our ICE. How much longer would that take in an EV?

I think European governments are slowly making it too expensive for poorer people to run petrol/diesel cars, with higher road tax and ridiculous rises in insurance they will eventually force people out of car ownership.

Didn’t someone manage to sue Audi for mis representing the mileage range on his secondhand EV ? EVs are a mobile phone on wheels. Remember when an iPhone 6 was cutting edge ? Anyone think In 5 years time EVs will have a poor battery and no support for updates on the software ? The new models will also make the old ones worthless.

I still have not had a problem with our EV, We only do more than 150 miles in a single journey a few times a year, but if I was going to drive to Yorkshire and back every week, I would have bought ICE. At present a 90 miles journey costs us about £1.40. I do hate to pay the 69p KWH , just like ICE drivers hate to pay £1.80 a litre on the motorway. I suppose one charge at 69p and nine charges at 7p averages out at about 7.5p per KWH. So if diesel is £7 a gallon ! I can do 450 or more miles per £7. One of the reason that the "range" does not match up is the fact it is not wise to run the battery "dead". My EV " may " do 250 miles on a single charge, but I would be a fool to run it past 220, I remember seeing the drivers walking along the A roads with a jerry can in hand ! I think it will be another year before I look at replacing the EV, if it was tomorrow I would get another EV, but I will have to see how things are next summer. It may be OK for some to laugh because EV's will be paying TAX next year, they may also add an extra 10% tax to petrol/diesel or find other ways to tax the motorist.

I hope some of the EV evangelists watch this video. Most buyers have paused their EV enthusiasm.

A new EV start up is being built in Scotland, the first car is called the EV Haggis

Battery degradation seems to vary a lot: apparently the original Nissan Leaf didn't have temperature control to keep the batteries cool when charging, so their batteries degraded quite quickly. And, to be fair to my local BMW dealer, they did say that all they could guarantee of my i3's range was about 60% (115 out of 180 claimed miles) in all conditions. Usually it gets about 160, so fine as for short distances.

I get 200 miles for £3.75.

EV cars are sh17e.

My Tesla is absolutely crap. Not sure what I was thinking. I only get 316 miles. But boy does it go . . .