Black Templars need not watch this video... stay strong brothers in the face of endless thirsting temptation. As always a ton of plans in the works, appreciate your viewership greatly - please do LIKE and tell me your thoughts about the representation of Slaanesh in 40K (praisethechangerofthewaysthecomingandgoingtheevershiftingtidesofthewarpandmaterialspace)

@martinpolo5812

8 күн бұрын

stop making me nervous! As an Black Templar AND Slaanesh player I can barely press the play button! :-D

@FullMetalElric

8 күн бұрын

Khorne is the most mysterious chaos god. Ey yo.... let's see how this goes.

@fuckgooglefuckgoogle-dn8wl

8 күн бұрын

I love black guys.

@alejandrorp5160

8 күн бұрын

The moment GW moved its games from being 80s-edgy-niche and aiming for a wider appeal It had to refurbish and move with the times, like they did with the SoB. Slaanesh keeps an awkward spot. The 'martial perfection' bit is Khorne's. Intrigue and seductiveness, Tzeentch. Decadence feels Nurglish. Raving debauchery overlaps with the Drukhari (which makes sense). How do you go for the latter whilst keeping It PG? AoS kinda does It, but barely. Why portraying utter carnage or body horror is OK but the mere allusion to nudity is shut down is a whole topic on its own

@alejandrorp5160

8 күн бұрын

​@@martinpolo5812Wait... WHAT?! That's kinda hawt, come to think of it

Imagine killing off a chaos god before emperors children get new models

@yougonahaveanoratime9726

8 күн бұрын

Well, they killed of an entire setting before, so wouldn't be that surprising

@ErikWarhammer

8 күн бұрын

It worked for AoS, didn't it?

@Jinkaza1882

8 күн бұрын

@@ErikWarhammer Kissing GW's ass worked, didn't it?!"

@emperorxander666

8 күн бұрын

lol my head cannon would be Trazyn threw something so his clonegirm would be the only one

@Phil-D83

8 күн бұрын

The clone flugrim held by the trazin will be released and destroy the corrupted original. Eldari god of the dead will come alive and finish off this ridiculous chaos god.

"Presenting temptation as a bad thing is a problem." - Big company tempting me to buy little plastic toys

@unfortunatesun

8 күн бұрын

If you don't see the fnord, the fnord can't eat you.

@abeerzeeshan9136

8 күн бұрын

Blud don’t buy from them they are greedy get a 300$ 3d printer and print entire armies of plastic toys

@Dark_Jaguar

8 күн бұрын

If you're being tempted into torturing others or being horrifically tortured yourself... no screw it, I'm shaming the hell out of that kink. That's NOT healthy, like in the literal physical sense.

@justicedemocrat9357

8 күн бұрын

Can I tempt you to shut up?

@1701Emperor

7 күн бұрын

@@abeerzeeshan9136 "Don't buy food at the store, buy a farm instead and grow your own!"

"The wider audience": the bane of franchises.

@AggressiveLemur

8 күн бұрын

Just gonna say, their revenue has skyrocketed the last two years, so......if you want them to be upset about their pivot....... probably not happening. 4 years my bad.

@Kingedwardiii2003

8 күн бұрын

@@AggressiveLemurquantity is never better than quality

@Uhnoofficial

8 күн бұрын

@@Kingedwardiii2003no one said it was?

@cladius3216

7 күн бұрын

You mean modern audiences

@logangodofcandy

7 күн бұрын

Modern audiences means a small minority of people that will never buy your product

Ah…so Tzeentch taught Luetin how to summon the whole Eldar fanbase

@achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233

7 күн бұрын

Tzeentch .. Tzeentch never changes ..

@milesthanx6803

7 күн бұрын

Just as planned.

@jorahtheexplorer3262

6 күн бұрын

What .... all seven of us?

@90skidcultist

2 күн бұрын

I’M GETTING THE INQUISITOR!🤬

@Archon3960

Күн бұрын

What's left of it anyway... B/

The only thing keeping Slaanesh from GW's Wrath is GW's even bigger wrath against allowing non-human characters to do anything majorly plot relevent.

@singletona082

8 күн бұрын

Simple. Have Rowboat be central to the plan to kill slaanesh. You get human character doing thing and it's grandpapa smurf so there is your ultra marines cannon sue boner groups satisfied.

@ryojimata3708

7 күн бұрын

The eldar seriously need more world building and involvement in the story especially when it involves slaanesh. Space knife ears needs love sometimes too.

@andrefasching1332

7 күн бұрын

Isnt the whole concept of Warhammer that it is told from a human perspective? Focused inwards, ignorant of what happens around.

@hedlund

7 күн бұрын

​@@andrefasching1332It is, but said human perspective was never completely static, either. Humanity reacts to goings-on.

@andrefasching1332

7 күн бұрын

@@hedlund the imperium is properly reacting to change? Since when?

The problem with depicting She who thirst in current time is that it will it WAY too close to home to people who will go thru a mental breakdown when they realise they are the villains.

@goyonman9655

7 күн бұрын

Yup Hedonism cant be diabolical

@vidard9863

3 күн бұрын

Especially as their model line suggested the presence of the alphabet soup members before the 90's....

@ExtremeEnthusiast704

2 күн бұрын

Like who?

@narceron360

2 күн бұрын

Are we the baddies?

@narceron360

2 күн бұрын

@@vidard9863 Repression can be dangerous, too. I live in rural western KY. We have everything here, but lots of stuff can only be done on the sly, so it causes problems. Especially for our elected officials, :)

Slannesh tracks with its "real life" equivalent Dionysus pretty well. On the surface, Dionysus is the "wine and party" god, but that is only a trap to ensnare mortals. Dionysus is the god of addiction and the moral degradation of the self. Hedonism is originally the fringe benefit, but becomes the whole focus of a person's life, at the expense of yourself and others. Dionysus is the personification of alcoholism and self degradation, and the decay that comes with all of that. Dionysus was forced into the Greek pantheon by pleasure cults that sprang up around the introduction of wine.

@PowerYoutuberViewer

7 күн бұрын

His followers would even be depicted falling into madness and tearing apart non-cultists in their midst in some stories

@blakewalker94

7 күн бұрын

I think he was also a god of madness. In his myths, he, more than once drives people absolutely crazy before turning them into dolphins.

@PowerYoutuberViewer

7 күн бұрын

@@blakewalker94 And his retinue of women are the maenads! Literally "the crazed/raving ones"

@psykisslove

7 күн бұрын

Presenting Dyonisus as a hedonistic god of excess and addiction was actually political propaganda, the Dyonisian cult was actually an anti-authoritarian humanist feminist philosophy that was not fundamentaly hedonistic, but instead employed hedonism as a political tool. Ironically this group did function much like a Slaanesh cult, which led to the reputation. They would invite the sons of important men to orgiastic parties and slowly indoctrinate then with anti-war anti-patriarchal ideology, causing them to go on to subvert Greek imperialism and patriarchal systems of land ownership.

@aquamarinerose5405

6 күн бұрын

Idunno if I'd quite say something THAT extreme since it paints dionysus as an explicitly malicious force. Though you're not entirely wrong. He was originally a Chthonic god with some degree of death, rebirth, and Madness under his control alongside his attachment to Wine.

My favourite thing to say in casual convo on slaanesh to rebut the "sex drugs and rock n roll god" is pointing out that cannibalism falls entirely under slaanesh. Its not explicitly violent and theres no war in it, so its not khorne. It doesnt pertain to seeking knowledge or change, so its not tzeentch. Its not stagnation or entropy, so its not nurgle. Only slaanesh could there be cannibalism for the sake of cannibalism.

@kyrakia5507

7 күн бұрын

Cannibalism can spread disease, and it does seem to fit the Nurgle theme of death of some being used to the advantage of those who survive

@velikynovgorod4358

7 күн бұрын

Cannibalism probably falls under Malice.

@markuswierer1755

6 күн бұрын

"Its not explicitly violent and theres no war in it, so its not khorne. It doesnt pertain to seeking knowledge or change, so its not tzeentch." Unless you are a Space Marine. Or maybe a Kroot. 🙃

@velikynovgorod4358

6 күн бұрын

It would probably fall under Malice.

@TheSpicyLeg

6 күн бұрын

I go further than that. Cannibalism here goes to the desire for new pleasures, and the pleasure of eating and drinking would follow the same bounds. Nor, it should be noted, is sexual desire in any way limited. Not by consent, and not by majority status. You can probably infer where cultists end up going.

TLDW: WH40k is a big brand, big brands stay away from controversial subject matter, therefore Slaanesh is too risky to truly explore.

@ianmaluk1

8 күн бұрын

My question always is, why even have it in the first place? Literally everything in the entire brand is a risk. So much so that describing even the most tame stuff in the 40K setting is innately controversial, there's absolutely no way around it without fundamentally changing the whole brand from the ground up. But I wouldn't put it past GW to Endtimes 40K soon, just like they did with Fantasy. But knowing what came out of it, it's going to be ten times worse than the first train wreck.

@everythingsalright1121

8 күн бұрын

@@ianmaluk1 because the normies cant handle a little bit of booba, d1ck and puzzy without throwing a tantrum because "too taboo" or "lewd". Because yes slaanesh is clearly only about sex and the moment you start writing about a god of excess and pleasure in a grimdark setting it turns a novel into 100% porn. Because the ork having a human breeding farm with lobotomized people for food is ok but slaanesh getting frisky is illegal. I gotta say its funny to watch from the sidelines as someone who is not afraid to talk nsfw, because *its a natural part of existence*

@Nyctophora

7 күн бұрын

True, but who doesn't want an hour plus from Leutin telling us that in lore-ful detail? That's why I'm here :D

@spnked9516

7 күн бұрын

​@@ianmaluk1 Slaanesh is a hold over from when GW was a smaller company, with a better grip on the identity of its properties, and wasn't so fixed on maximizing shareholder value. I've been saying it for a while now, but I genuinely believe 40k is headed towards an "End Times" like event that will radically reshape it's framework. One of the primary reasons I think this is because, like with Fantasy before it, GW has stopped treating 40k as a setting and started treating it like a narrative. Instead of focusing on independent, smaller scale stories couched in the setting, GW has been focused on massive galaxy altering stories that fundamentally shift, remove, or replace the framework of the broader setting - i.e. Primaris Marines, Primarchs coming back, splitting the galaxy in two, the Emperor straight up being a god that can tangibly hurt other gods, etc etc. I don't know if GW will straight up hard delete 40k like they did with Fantasy when rolling out AoS, but I can almost guarantee that 40k in a decade will be radically different than it was 5-10 years ago.

@maltheri9833

7 күн бұрын

But that's the fact of evolution. It can't just be a setting for 40 years without a single lore development happening that would be entropy for the universe and the company because they'd fail hard 🤣 Star Wars is a setting but they've settled huge plot points,settled character arcs and have gone back to make shows about different times in the setting. Why you think 40k can't do this without having a galactic aneurysm after 40 years to do so

I got here so fast slanesh hasn't spawned in yet

@pugcopter

8 күн бұрын

Well Slanesh isn’t a fan of anyone coming too fast

@thomasburfeind8431

8 күн бұрын

@@pugcopter thats crazy

@be1394

8 күн бұрын

That's because she's the host and likes to watch.

@aaronhumphrey3514

8 күн бұрын

I mean yeah, Slaanesh isn't going to be born for another 28,000 years...

@hrperformance

8 күн бұрын

​@@pugcoptervery nice 👏🏽😂

OG noise marines were painted that way as lore said they were so far gone and had immersed themselves in chasing higher highs for all their senses, that only the most garish and jarring colours would even register to them. Source: Realm of Chaos book, Slaves to Darkness. Now that was some good slaaneshi lore. ♥️

@SmokeySyn

7 күн бұрын

Wait, so like ALL of the colors except for the most garish and jarring wouldn’t register in their chaos infused brains? Would that mean they most likely see everything in an almost black and white saturation level?

@timtim6373

7 күн бұрын

⁠​⁠@@SmokeySynI think it’s more that anything less than absurd garish colors is so unappealing and bland compared to what their used to. That it no longer crosses their mind as even being worthy of consideration. It has to be “new” it has to be unheard of because they’ve already experienced everything worth doing.

@LastAphelion

7 күн бұрын

Basically us gamers that require more RGB things that don't need to be RGB

@Turd_Rocket

7 күн бұрын

I just read Shadowsword by Guy Haley. A rebelling planet suffers a coup by a nobleman who cuts a deal with Chaos, and Noise Marines arrive to help them battle the Imperium (it doesn't say they're Noise Marines nor does it mention Slaanesh, I don't think, but you can infer it from the descriptions; garish colours, insane music preceding them in battle, battlefield draped in purple mist which smells like intense perfume). At one point, the main character (who's an Imperial Guards baneblade commander) manages to surprise a Traitor Astartes and stab him through damage in his armor with a power sword. Rather than being angry or vengeful, the Noise Marine seems awestruck at having his "birth heart" destroyed, as he will never have another and it's a new experience, a new pain. He also implies it's the first time a mortal has wounded him. Rather than kill the soldier, he draws a dagger and offers to "explore" such new pains and experiences together, beginning to torture him, before the Black Templars arrive in the nick of time. I remember thinking "Okay, so extremes. They're all about extremes. Extreme noise, extreme sensation - pleasure, pain, whatever. F*ckin' hell, mate." Slaanesh and its minions are such an interesting concept for villains, compelled and driven by lust for extremes and excess. I also like how the book portrays the Imperial Guards being shocked that near-mythical Chaos Marines actually exist when they learn of their presence, and how afraid it makes them.

@Mr.Glitch

6 күн бұрын

@@Turd_Rocket That sounds like a standard Slaaneshi marine tbh, people underestimate just how messed up they actually are. Noise marines are on a whole new level. >XD

One of the aspects of Slaanesh I feel is most under explored is how empathy can lead to heightened sensory experience. The more you can feel towards others, the more outward your experience is of the reactions and emotions of others. A psychopathic sadist, in a way, has more limits as to what they can feel and what they can think of to do with 'sensory experience'. To want others, is to want more beyond your singular experiential point. To be sadistically empathic is to wish for the feelings of others to be a certain way. And therefore it is an honest desire for harmony and empathy that can cause this decent into the warp as well, through Slaanesh. You lament often in this video about how Slaanesh isn't a chaos god of war, but it is through this avenue that I think 40k can expand on it, and who better to do it through but the Tau with their 'synchronizing' helmets. The Tau are often seen as 'too positive' for 40k and while I think this makes them a much needed light to shine more shadows into the narrative, I think there is some potential here as they ARE the optimistic, empathetic, harmony loving empire. Contrast them with the hivemind like Tyranids and I think you could get a very interesting grimdark battle filled story with many metaphors and explorations of this chaos god.

I'm reminded of a Slaaneshmas comic that I read around December of last year. The Prince of Pleasure was handing out cookies to human children. Indescribably delicious cookies. The kind that you would happily murder your parents or your whole hab-block just to have one... more... taste... Slaanesh is truly the god of addiction.

@inthefade

8 күн бұрын

The idea of children being manipulated by Slaanesh is truly horrific.

@Prophetofthe8thLegion

8 күн бұрын

@@inthefadeoh I thought it rather amusing to imagine the little rats ripping each other apart for the crumbs…

@Ultra04channel

8 күн бұрын

​@@Prophetofthe8thLegion Found the Emperor's Children marine lol

@Prophetofthe8thLegion

8 күн бұрын

@@Ultra04channel Emperor’s Children? Do I look like one of those decadent sycophants? I am a scion of the Night Haunter! A master of pain and terror, a lord of the night!

@KidCaelus

8 күн бұрын

@@Prophetofthe8thLegion that sure is quite an *excessive* way to say you're into BDSM

I hope not. I find Slaanesh the most interesting of Chaos despite their infancy. I'm also very biased as I love the Emperor's Children and Fulgrim.

@Justadonkey

8 күн бұрын

me too, but I also love the word bearers as well. Lorgar has such an interesting and genuine personality

@Aberinkula9

8 күн бұрын

Me too. More specifically the Noise Marines - Chaos Marines first in my opinion.

@thegreatpugtato1823

8 күн бұрын

@@Aberinkula9 Same about that Chaos Marines bit. For the imperium I find the Tech Priests and Custodes more interesting than there space marines. Chaos has more risks for the individual. Not just death but too many chaotic gifts, God gets bored and eats ya, backstabbing or backstabbed yourself. Yet also Chaos has the capacity to make you immortal and have whole warbands follow you. You don't even need to be a space marine like Papa Luetin said. Chaos gives to all! The imperium just already admits your fodder in a faithful sense just to some husk on a throne that wasn't even his originally.

@beardonder

5 күн бұрын

Yeah I'm normally Chaos Undivided but if I was to go monotheist with it I find Slaanesh the most interesting. How it can feed off the other gods because anything taken to excess strengthens them. It has the potential to be the most powerful and insidious

@dektarey4024

Күн бұрын

I prefer Tzeentch (Chirp Chirp), but losing Slaanesh would be an immense blow to the franchise. Slaanesh alone provides 80% of a very specifc form of content inspiration to the fanbase. Ever seen Khorne -specific content-? Its not good.

Slaanesh suffers from 40K being sanitized for "modern audiences." It is the ongoing death of 40K as creative art in its own right and rebirth as a fully corporate commodity. In 1988, Slaanesh was introduced as the "Lord of Pleasure," an entity "dedicated to the pursuit of hedonistic pleasures and the overthrow of all codes of decent behaviour." Rather than being treated as a threat that would consume your soul, we were told that his "favoured followers litter the floors [of his palace], indulging themselves in all forms of perverse pleasures of the flesh." Slaanesh is presented as hermaphroditic with "male on the left side and female on the right," and his symbol "combines the conventional symbols for male and female." Worship of Slaanesh "takes the form of great orgies involving every vice and perversity," and all are welcome in his cults with the "only requirements [being] an unswerving dedication to the pursuit of pleasure and a willingness to explore every possible vice and perversion to this end... regardless of any conventional codes of decent behaviour or any law." Slaaneshi cultists actually had access to a spell called "Beam of Slaanesh" where a rainbow would shoot out of their fingertips and send their victims into a debilitatingly "blissful, euphoric state." Hedonistic pleasures, overthrowing decent behaviour, perverse pleasures of the flesh, orgies, perversity, pursuit of pleasure, perversion... all of these were used on a single page to introduce Slaanesh. But society's general views of such things are very different today from those in 1988, and you simply cannot have a hermaphroditic Lord of Pleasure worshipped by perverts in hedonistic orgies who shoot rainbows at their enemies. This is why Slaanesh must become a generic god of gluttony. He cannot highlight any particular act as evil or sinful lest someone be offended, but "excess" is safe. The sin is in the excess, not the act itself, and, thankfully, it is highly subjective whether or not you do something "too much." Slaanesh instantly becomes a safe monster where the intended consumer can separate their real-world actions from any implied judgement from the material-"I may do that too, but I don't do it excessively."

@georgeaird4637

7 күн бұрын

I agree this whole ‘excess’ thing is such a cop out. In the new Lord of Excess book one of the EC marines in the warband’s “awful obsession” is that he’s constantly keeping account of his stock of weapons and ammunition supplies, how lame is that?!

@westernwarhorse

7 күн бұрын

@@georgeaird4637 Slaanesh, Prince of Accountants and Lord of Logistics

@AYAKXSHI

7 күн бұрын

@@georgeaird4637 actually that makes sense if we consider astartes being soldiers made for war you also have people in real life with extreme ocd but other than that i do agree non the less

@sycariummoonshine7134

3 күн бұрын

Wow that is sad.

@ExtremeEnthusiast704

2 күн бұрын

It's a shame. And I can't imagine the culture war bullshit that would rise up if this returned.

I think there is real potential for an organic decline of Slaanesh. She is the goddess of excess and I think hedonism is a very closely linked concept to excess. As we all know, hedonism is not productive, it sacrifices the future for the present and that makes it a notable flaw. Slaanesh might have that flaw built into her by design, somewhat akin to a drug addict that is still functional, yet slowly but surely sees her life derailing. Slaanesh's very essence just seems to be somewhat opposed to focused, ambitious, productive behaviour. It could very well be that she's hedonistically living on borrowed time, from past achievements, peaking at the fall of the eldar, but slowly declining from there. Meanwhile the other gods are as steady and focused as ever, leading to them increasingly outcompeting her in then great game. Maybe there is a breaking point and it's closer than we think. With Slaanesh being as relatively young as she is, her longevity certainly isn't as sure as that of the other gods anyway. It could very well be that her existance, on a cosmic scale, is just a slight fizzle.

As an alcoholic (not using), Slaanesh freaks me out far more than any other Chaos God. The fall of Fulgrim is a sad tale that parallels the fates of many I've known, minus the Demon Prince stuff. Excess is extremely tempting for some in a lethal amount of desire.

@Skritz-mt9zb

8 күн бұрын

I'd argue that while addicts don't become LITERAL man-demon empowered by chaos, one could argue addiction certainly can make you a 'monster' in the sense your personality and relationships around you become so twisted and toxic you may as well become an all consuming creature of darkness.

@Justadonkey

8 күн бұрын

I've always hated how alcoholics anonymous forces you to label yourself an alcoholic for the rest of your days. You are more than an addiction, don't saddle your self esteem with that stigma. You can beat it and move on with your life, thats what I did. And you don't necessarily need to subscribe to religion to overcome it, you can draw the strength you need from within, or your family and friends. I havent been able to look at booze without getting sick for the past 10 years, its not always a constant battle after you quit

@TheBriarWolf

8 күн бұрын

@@JustadonkeyI’ve never understood it either, but I think there may be a difference between people who just drank a lot for awhile and actual “addicts”. I had a headache for a few days, but I’ve seen some of these guys fall on the ground shaking and puking when they stopped drinking. I’ve also not ever had an issue with “temptation”. Gotta be some difference in there.

@yourbuddyunit

8 күн бұрын

Ugh, the terrifying thought of chaos creeping in the life of addicts is genuinely scary to anyone who's struggled with addiction. As a former invisible bars inmate myself, the idea of the immaterium creeping in with every hit or sip that's a goddamn NIGHTMARE! It's hard enough to deal with, without unreality itself maliciously driving you deeper into the spirals.

@robpatterson3133

8 күн бұрын

12 years no alcohol free. Slaanesh rode on my shoulder raw back in the day with 420 an da bottle lol.

There is an episode of Stargate that has the SG-1 gang get interfaced with an AI that enhances their bodies to the point where they start to basically let all their intrusive thoughts win. Starts with them enjoying their lunch and ends with them trying to shock themselves with defibrillator. The AI craves new experiences and also gives them the ability to survive some of these experiences. Most of the people I know have seen this show and this episode so I just tell them Urgo is how Slaanesh starts, Hellraser is how it goes, and Lovecraft is how it scales up.

@inthefade

8 күн бұрын

Hellraiser is a good film reference for Slaanesh

@justicedemocrat9357

7 күн бұрын

OMG that's exact same thing happened to me when I smoked meth.

@Grabthar191

7 күн бұрын

@@inthefade I thought so too. The cenobites being Slaaneshi demons or proto-demons. Like Pinhead says, "Explorers, in the further regions of experience. Demons to some, angels to others."

I absolutely love the Luetin videos that go go from WH40k lore (past and present references) -> modern day issues and shenanigans -> pop culture references -> philosophical theorising -> mentioning of other WH40k youtuber (mostly Bricky ❤😂) and then circiling back to the future of the WH40k lore and culture. Please keep making these fantastic videos no matter how long they take and how long they become in the end. PS: I still heard Dark Origins Part 5 mentioned in the video 😆My absolute favourite series on the channel and looking forward to the day when Part 5 is released ☺

Former heroin and meth addict here (6 years clean), those self-indulgent desires always start so small and so slow, until before you know it, you're doing things you NEVER thought you'd ever do. When people see people banging drugs on the street, they always imagine that they'd never ever do such a thing. But the real horror is that most of those same people saw and said the same thing. I know i did. But there comes a point where the satisfaction of the high is all you have left, you lose everything else.

@Dr.Instabil

4 күн бұрын

As an Addict myself,i think because of our lived experience we have an insight Into slaanesh few others have

@Nyctonaut

4 күн бұрын

@@Dr.Instabil And it really is a ritual. The sickness, the pickup, the anticipation, the preparation, the relief, and the counting down again until the pain comes back. 'Round and 'round and 'round we go. You do become a sort of fanatic or cultist. It changes your appearance and your personality. It leaks from your insides through pimples and sores. It warps your mind and wraps itself around your soul deep deep down with its hooks embedded in your very being... lol, very "grimdark." Even all these years later, that demon on my shoulder rears its ugly head and screams to be satisfied, and I fight every single day. Luckily, I've got new "rituals," and those seem to be working! 💪 Life is good. Stay strong, my friend.

Next up: will the Dark Eldar get sanitized?

@hcolider2817

7 күн бұрын

next: the warhammer for kids book series is the new direction of warhammer writ large

@georgeaird4637

7 күн бұрын

They’d have to actually write Dark Eldar lore in order to sanitise them, so they’re safe imho

@Sercotani

4 күн бұрын

@@georgeaird4637 as a Deldar fan...I'm so goddamned sad right now on how true this is lmao. but hey a recent book featured Dark Eldar (Da Big Dakka, also features Orks!), and they feature very prominently in Rogue Trader (the CRPG video game by Owlcat). There's some bits of fun for us still...Also a new Lelith Hesperax book that's set post Vect dying and getting resurrected, hell yea.

@zawarudo1041

3 күн бұрын

when collab with paw patrol then?

My wife and i often refer to "feeding slaanesh" when were getting hung up trying to make something perfect

@rowdyzack5914

8 күн бұрын

Your wife and I call it something else

@tomtommerson6320

8 күн бұрын

​@@rowdyzack5914 feeding Nurgle?

@nickcarroll8565

8 күн бұрын

⁠@@tomtommerson6320well they do have get antibiotics when they are done

@sblower9410

8 күн бұрын

@@rowdyzack5914 that escalated quickly

@rowdyzack5914

8 күн бұрын

@@sblower9410 she always does

I firmly believe that Slaanesh won't be sidelined. They had the perfect opportunity to start the process with It being sent to horny jail in AoS, but signs are pointing towards It escaping. I know they're technically separate settings, but I believe GW would use AoS to test the waters if they planned for this sort of change. Also, I can see plenty of ways to keep the horror of Slaaneshi worship without being distasteful, even if it's just as simple as keeping the worst off-screen and letting imagination do the rest (a pretty classic horror technique).

@Ultra04channel

8 күн бұрын

I think going full on Hellraiser would be a better idea. After all, this is the series that brought us the daemonculaba.

@leadpaintchips9461

8 күн бұрын

@@Ultra04channel And every discussion around that story is either "Look how screwed up the setting is! Honest!" or "That book is just stupid, even GW doesn't want anything to do with it and the Black Library has a pretty low bar."

@AYAKXSHI

7 күн бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@leadpaintchips9461 i think the problem with the daemonculaba is the meme’s and the fact people say the iron warriors made it even tho it was created by a subsect of the dark mechanicum that specializes in bio technology

@carsandsports123

13 сағат бұрын

I agree except for the fact that the horror being imagine being a consistent tool. Not you, but I feel like many new age puritians are fine with the gore of khorne or the body horror od Tzeetch but want to hide from slannesh. It's laughable imo

As a sisters collector, (1st army almost at 1k points) i think slaanesh is important to my faction as the only one of the chaos gods a sister has fallen to, i think its one of the more interesting C gods

@TheSimpleMan454

4 күн бұрын

*cough* Khorne *cough* twice! *cough*

@countswagula6150

Күн бұрын

@@TheSimpleMan454 good man, now report to the inquisitor for possession of heretical knowledge

>people talking about how slaanesh is too NSFW >Nurgle showing constent grotesque imagery of maggots, gore, and vomit inducing infections I think modern media has far more hormy demons than anything even resembling something nurgle would show. Sure, weve seen zombies but, nurgle would make modern zombies grimace because hes so much more than walking dead people.

@sterlingdavis8244

8 күн бұрын

Amazon seems more accepting of gore than nudity/sexuality that isn't male focused given how The Boys adaptation has been going.

@peenwienerstein2

8 күн бұрын

Some people (eg way, way too many) are way more upset by the biological realities of their own bodies and their sexual urges than they are diseased entities. That isn't meant to come off as reductive, but I mean every word I say.

@Igor369

7 күн бұрын

Yeah, it is baffling how you can't slip a little more than usual of a boob but a video of people drinking liquid smoke and cutting to them suddenly violently vomiting without any censorship is apparently ok. I am speaking from experience.

@logangodofcandy

7 күн бұрын

Amazon and the boys? Sexual degeneracy and drug abuse is a cornerstone of left wing people in the west. Amazon is representative of relatively average people

@djbeema

7 күн бұрын

​​ the boys presents an interesting case, because imo it has presented tons of male nudity/sexuality implicitly combined with gore/violence. And actually shockingly little female nudity and sexuality by comparison (at least directly shown vs implied). This has carried over to Gen V as well. Part of me always wonders if this out of fear or as a reaction to the long tradition of hyper-sexualizing women in these types of media, or of the show is actually trying to say something with it.

Imagine wanting to sideline this character in an age of hedonism and self pleasure the likes of which Caligula could only dream of. F'ing clown world.

@blam320

7 күн бұрын

The shareholders were looking in a mirror when they saw Slaanesh, and decided they didn’t want fantasy to reflect reality.

@ZacHawkins42

7 күн бұрын

@@blam320 Hah!

@narusawa74

6 күн бұрын

Right!?!

@TheSpicyLeg

6 күн бұрын

On the contrary, that’s precisely why they must. Modern society is infatuated with removing all limits, shattering all taboos. However, the pleasure is always temporary, and requires ever-greater excesses to relive. This ends in pain and horror. Just ask anyone bed-ridden from gluttony how happy and content they are, and they’ll tell you the only pleasure they have is from eating. That’s Chaos. In other words, it would hit way too close to home for modern people. The soulless, empty existence of excess. Reminding people of the pain and loneliness in their escapism is not a good idea.

@ZacHawkins42

6 күн бұрын

@@TheSpicyLeg That was my (not very concise) point as well, thanks for clarifying.

"You won't get me, Slaanesh!" *Proceeds to crawl away slowly... glancing over my shoulder to make sure he/she/it is chasing me*

New Luetin video as soon as I sit down to start making new terrain? Emperor Protects 🫡

It is a shame that a lot of franchise dilute into safer material in order to chase the casual market profit. It seems like a lot of these companies don’t believe that there’s an audience smart enough to make profit off of? Maybe it’s just based on laziness on the companies, part, like a drawing with very little detail and shading but still can be recognizable. Either way it makes me personally sad in the grand scheme of things.

@Gogglesofkrome

8 күн бұрын

It's not about chasing a casual market, but rather controlling the narrative. There is a reason that this is a multi-institutional, industry-spanning, cross-cultural sort of effort that only seems to exist exclusively in publicly traded media. The reason they are banning fan content is explicitly because they want to possibly induce dramatic change in how warhammer is seen and portrayed. EG Genderbending entire factions, Slaanesh being removed or made "good", or other similar bizarre changes.

@Mickekzon

8 күн бұрын

Never underestimate the power of "won't somebody think of the children?" types.

@Ultra04channel

7 күн бұрын

​@Gogglesofkrome Seems less like Slanessh is being "made good" and more like they're being slowly erased. The shareholders obviously wish to remove She Who Thirsts, but they can't or the fans who enjoy the grim-dark would get angry. But they also don't have enough mass market appeal to make up for the mass exodus that would inevitably occur, so they're stuck. It's sad, really. I don't want some corpos robbing the setting of one of the most interesting factions.

@Gogglesofkrome

7 күн бұрын

@@Ultra04channel I didn't think they actually were trying to turn slaanesh good, I was just trying to give example of the fact that it looks like they really want to change the quality for the worse

@Mickekzon

7 күн бұрын

@@Ultra04channel capitalism ruins everything. It's basic principle is dehumanising everything and turning it into materialistic profits. Scourge of the world.

It's crazy that morality breaks down all over the world, but a mans tabletop game has to dial it back at the same time.

@anon2752

6 күн бұрын

Yeah its wild, casual sex and giving in your desires of all kinds is so commonplace in reality now. Cant have it depicted as a bad thing in a fantasy setting though.

@TheSpicyLeg

6 күн бұрын

@@anon2752To know who rules over you, simply find out who you’re not allowed to criticize. Chaos is an unintentionally accurate portrayal of immorality. Did you ever notice how the Imperium is judged? It is always couched in the same principle, that the Imperium places limits on people. Be it directly or indirectly. The only moral commandment we have left is that there must be no moral commandments, no limits. Showing Chaos - the terminus of excess - would naturally cause people,to question whether some limits are actually good. Maybe some limits to personal expression and desire are good.

@nicoruppert4207

6 күн бұрын

Everything is and has been quite over sexed for quite a while now. At least for as long as I've been alive it's been that way. Whoever GW put in charge of 40k must just be built different, like a cabal of prudes who like writing about women getting flayed by the night lords. 40k is fucked up and disgusting a lot, but Slaanesh is weirdly left in the dust there.

@farkasmactavish

4 күн бұрын

Morality doesn't "break down", because it's subjective.

I don’t see how people don’t get the point that Slaanesh is more that just zekz, drugs, and rock and roll; or how the druchari’s actions feed slaanesh. They are totally dedicated to slaanesh, feeling joy in the torture and degradation of others. Heck, letting your enemies feel like they’ve killed you only to crush their elation (ala azrubael vecht) and bask in their despair and your elation…that’s 100% feeding slasnesh. It’s more than joy and zekz

she who thirsts has seized the black library. the prince of pleasure has taken the golden throne. they will swallow it all.

@Gogglesofkrome

8 күн бұрын

"The Greatest Trick the Devil Ever Pulled Was Convincing the World He Didn’t Exist"

@maintaint3003

8 күн бұрын

Some drunk chick has subjugated an African-American library? Prince of Wales got a golden toilet? Who's _they_ tho?

@justicedemocrat9357

7 күн бұрын

Your mom will swallow it all hehehe.

@justicedemocrat9357

7 күн бұрын

@@Gogglesofkrome The greatest trick your mom ever pulled was the reverse cowgirl hehehe.

@logangodofcandy

7 күн бұрын

That's pretty sad. It isn't much of a trick

People forget that Slaanesh's domain is six of the seven deadly sins. They forget he encompasses desire in so many aspects. He is subtlety, the slow fall. Yet people just see the character as silly daemon god big booby waifu.

@leadpaintchips9461

8 күн бұрын

Ayup, and frankly I want more exploration of that. More lore of people chasing the non-BDSM aspects, and frankly more models showcasing their followers chasing those alternatives. We need more Noise Marine like models, where it's about something else.

@Dampfaeus

8 күн бұрын

But she can be silly daemon god big booby waifu if you want. As long as you give her your soul.

@si2foo

8 күн бұрын

yes but the most potent and east forms of emotion is RAGE and PLEASURE. hence the Sadistic bdsm warriors. the problem is that 10% of the Shares of GW are owned by Idealog companies who try to force these stupid changes which ultimately destroy the franchise. which is why i look at companies that are public as being the least pro consumer there is.

@cultist1762

8 күн бұрын

@si2foo You can still depict things like Greed, Envy, Sloth, Pride, Gluttony, it doesn't have to just be Lust. Showing a single aspect make him little different from Khorne. Lust alone is boring.

@michaldimitrov3233

8 күн бұрын

Boobs are a must. Any aspects of life which don't revolve around boobs make me lose interest immediately. There's a bunch of elections coming up, with supposedly generational consequences. But nothing about boobs. Not interested.

Slaneesh is taking over 40k as a franchise

Slaanesh might bring about too many questions and mine fields for GW due to the amount of zim/zers kicking about currently.

@farkasmactavish

4 күн бұрын

Transphobia! This drinking game is gonna kill me...

@Peter-by3ox

3 күн бұрын

@@farkasmactavish ahhh dear dear are your fee fees hurt?

@farkasmactavish

3 күн бұрын

@@Peter-by3ox No, I'm standing up for the people whose rights you oppose.

@ExtremeEnthusiast704

2 күн бұрын

Rent free

@quirinaled2752

2 күн бұрын

@farkasmactavish You mean you're standing up against the imagined slight you read into the original comment. No-one says what you've claimed they did, yet here you are charging in as the white knight to save all trans people, who have to be victims in order for you to be the heroic defender. You're a joke, as it's much of the discourse on this subject. Why not find something you can be consistently and rightfully outraged about, like climate change.

I'll be listening to this from start to finish, but I can pick up where this is going; Slaanesh is my favorite chaos god, not because of the "uwu sexytime" that people have attached to them, but because their "gift" and how they work is terrifying. Excess in things that give you pleasure. It can be anything. Making money? Get a job. Not enough. Build a company. Not enough. Build multiple companies. Not enough. Rob someone. Not enough. Start *redacted* people to take their money. Not enough. More more more. Even if the whole world has to go down, you still want MORE. Characters are pushed to further and further extremes to feel a better pleasure about the things they enjoy or are obsessed about, and they'll go to any ends in order to get it so it's just an eternal snowball speeding downhill, picking up all of the worst and most gruesome of things in order to get there, and if they have to destroy themselves to get that pleasure they'll happily do it because they're so insanely obsessed with that feeling. It can start as small and insignificant and maybe even feel and seem happy....but before you know it you're driven into performing the most gut wrenching, heinous, acts in order to chase a deeper pleasure. Excess in the most extremes. Excess to the point of being truly terrifying. Of COURSE it will be hard to stay with that and show it and tell stories about it with a wide audience who doesn't understand or refuses to accept that this is fiction....but horrific evil in stories is what makes "bad guys" good and multi-dimensional instead of flat and boring. I wish people, creators, etc. would stop losing sight of that.

@Luetin09

8 күн бұрын

and this is overall my point. We never get any illustrations of the true potential horror of Slaanesh, that someone would drive themselves to a truly insane scale of excess to devote themselves to Slaanesh - but its never that - its never as creative or interesting - its always, Emperors Children polishing their armour and feeling tingly all over.

@BearPawSwipe

8 күн бұрын

I love Slaanesh as well! Indolence is my favorite part. Just imagine that...in a galaxy where everything is awful the worst thing you can do is rest.

@KyokujiFGC

8 күн бұрын

@@Luetin09 Yeah, you brought up a good point in the video, which is that the actions of the Slaaneshi demons and traitor legions should, in theory, make the Drukhari look tame. And with how horrifying something like the haemonculi already are, there's no way GW is every going to risk depicting -- or likely even describing -- something so horrific. There wouldn't be enough trigger warnings in the world.

@MagnusArchitectOfFate

8 күн бұрын

Yeah, totally agree. Slaanesh has an incredible potential for incredibly horrific consequences of mortal desires, but almost no one even tries to examine those subjects. Tzeench may not be the most popular chaos power as part of storytelling, and is also far from reaching his true potential, but at least not to that extent. Thankfully, quite a few writers attempt to dig into his complexity. Hope that both of them will shine more in the grim future) Edit: grammar mistakes

@t_k_blitz4837

8 күн бұрын

@@Luetin09 I thought that the depiction of Fulgrim's descent, as well as the artist on his ship, I forget her name, was pretty effective; his growing feeling that nothing was ever good enough, that the slightest perceived flaw in anything was intolerable, that his technically flawless sculpture was in fact flawed because it lacked soul, the horrifying reality of what perfectionism *really* means when you let its hooks dig into you, so deeply that they pierce your heart, AND WILL NEVER LET YOU GO: You will never be contented, you will never be comfortable in your own skin, you will NEVER have the one thing that you crave: ENOUGH. I love what you're saying here, though: That horror needs to be illustrated at the mundane level, too, because it is so incredibly pervasive, and a major, MAJOR contributor to the misery that we experience in our own world and lives, at all levels, from the most power-mad CEO or megalomaniac, to the most innocuous unhappy child.

Hey hey people, Tzeentch here

@venga3

8 күн бұрын

I heard that.

@jacobharding2731

7 күн бұрын

Khorne - "not interested Tezench,, busy watching slanesh wrapping a mortal around a stripper pole. (Not in a sexy way)

@Guaguadeath

4 күн бұрын

Ah fellow Tzeentach enjoyer I see 👀 what a man of culture

Slaanesh is basically the god of our current time. Dont want to portray it as a chaotic villainous god

I wouldn't mind the Ynnari's big plan succeeding but only half-way: the Eldar souls are freed, but Slaanesh isn't killed or sealed away. I'd like there to be more focus on Slaanesh, more depth, but I will always have Eldar, and just Xenos in general, ahead of everything else in terms of enjoyment and what I want to see more of. My knife ears need a win for once

@ExtremeEnthusiast704

2 күн бұрын

Same. I was thinking about this, too. The Aeldari desperately need a win already.

@Archon3960

Күн бұрын

I need an honest answer. Is there really so few Eldar fans in the 40k community? If so, then yeah, might explain why GW isn't doing anything with them. ;/

You know... Having read or listened to I dunno, 300 novels, short stories, audio dramas etc... I don't remember a single sex scene in 40k that was anywhere near as explicit as the rather tame sex scenes in the Dune books... GW/BL are clearly terrified of getting the Bad Sex award...

@Ech_The_Sentiant

3 күн бұрын

-Still waiting for nurgle x Tzeentch romance novel. GW you can’t hide from me you filthy cowards-

@Archon3960

Күн бұрын

@@Ech_The_Sentiant Hahaha... _*spontaneous combustion just as planned*_.

@Archon3960

Күн бұрын

That, or it has something to do with the authors... x)

KZread- Luetin09 has a new vi... Me - I AM WATCHING IT RIGHT NOW

@Majorfuckinghero

8 күн бұрын

@@Prof.Pwnalot are you just incapable of anything mildly fun/joking?

@devlad

7 күн бұрын

Due to the nature of the warp, I was watching it before it came out

I love that you used Idiot of the East's Slaanesh drawing, his comics are hilarious and I do love that rendition of her.

Let's hope it's not the end of Slaanesh in 40k, there's little left beyond it.

In a galaxy filled with death & war...heaven forbid there be a sexy crab daemon god rizzing everyone up!

@fguocokgyloeu4817

8 күн бұрын

Sex bad, murder and xenophobia good. Apparrently.

@desertmammoth3159

8 күн бұрын

Or swearing. Heaven forbid anyone screams F as their insides get boiled by alien technology.

@rickkcir2151

8 күн бұрын

But remember, Daemonculaba are A-okay.

@serioserkanalname499

8 күн бұрын

Tyranid munition eats you from the inside out? Average tuesday. There might be a nipple somewhere? BURN IT ALL TO THE GROUND AND MAKE IT LAME!

@Aberinkula9

8 күн бұрын

​@@rickkcir2151And Death Spectres, apparently.

This is one of your best videos, Luetin. Your remarks are well thought out, thought provoking, and entertaining. Thank you for digging into these facets of 40k.

Cegorach vs Slaneesh with the laughing god getting the last laugh to save his people is the most poetic end. I could see the Khan and the yellow king's pocket dimension have ties Cegorach.

"The flame that burns twice as bright, burns half as long." -- Lao Tzu

Thank you for explaining my exact thoughts on Slaanesh in far better constructed detail than I ever could. I would love a novel detailing the darkest reaches of who I consider the most terrifying entity in all of 40k

@victorrosenheart8036

8 күн бұрын

I am erotica writer, I could do it, but Games Workshop would shoot me before hiring me XD

@leadpaintchips9461

8 күн бұрын

@@victorrosenheart8036 Frankly the darkest reaches of Slaanesh have nothing to do with erotica. Sex is the easy reach, not the darkest. It's more like breeding in OCD into whole populations as a primary trait. Generational trauma. Corruption of basic biological functions and drives. Frankly, having a Slaanesh corrupted world be chaste because all of their focus is on something else, overriding the drive to breed, is much more disturbing.

@victorrosenheart8036

7 күн бұрын

@@leadpaintchips9461 That’s the fun With Slaanesh! Endlessly possibilities! Sex is one root, and it would work. But, we could do your idea! Everyone just spending the whole day drinking or something.

I came back from a shitty shift, have to get up in an hour or 4, then this guy drops a vid of an hour long, obviously I set my priorities straight and watch it! very gratefull none the less

OMG... I'm lying in a hospital bed recovering from a hip operation thinking, God I really hope Luetin drops a new video so I can just relax and block everything out. And then boom...there you are. Your definitely my apothecary of choice.

@beardfistthegoldenone7273

8 күн бұрын

Find something to laugh at if you can. That's how I kept my sanity after a major surgery. Family guy kept me going xD

Vox in the Void has a great story about Kharn and the world eaters attacking a Slaanesh daemon world, definitely recommend it if you want a more nuanced portrayal

@BearPawSwipe

8 күн бұрын

Such a good suggestion!

@rogershaftly6976

8 күн бұрын

Also "All the Gods are Dead" which is a 3 part series about a Slaanesh cult taking over a world that's amazing

@Ransetsu

8 күн бұрын

What's the story called?

@pinheadlarry8031

8 күн бұрын

@@Ransetsu The Wrath of Khârn.

@AliceBowie

8 күн бұрын

After the Emperor's Children dropped the ball on Terra and just grabbed as many slaves as possible and took off, the other traitors have hated them.

I remember when it looked like they were getting rid of Slannesh in Age of Sigmar and replacing him with the Great Horned Rat. It didn't work and they brough him back. Trying it again would be a huge mistake. Especially now with how on gaurd players are after the Femstodes crap.

Slaanesh is already much more 'family friendly' than it was back in Slaves to Darkness in the late 1980s. That book had plenty of boobs etc and I was lapping up the naughtiness but mostly the general, shocking horror of it all as a 14 year old.

@toaaxxon123

Күн бұрын

yeah a child should not be exposed to that kinda content

This is why I rate you above all the other 40k creators. Your explorations and expansions on how things are perceived always gives me a better perspective with which to view subjects and narratives within the setting. Your content always manages to expand my view in new ways that I deeply appreciate.

In the book "Never Let You Go", there's a scene where the young-teenage protagonist is singing whilst holding a pillow and dreaming that it's a baby of her own. A "teacher" walks in and is frozen in pure horror - not for invading this private moment, but because she knows there-and-then that the humanity of this moment will be stripped from her as the society has already planned to take her organs. She will never know her own children, she will never have what many might even call a "mundane" future to look forwards to, she is but a thing. Luetin is right - you can express profound emotion even in the most trivial of scenes.

@drew460

7 күн бұрын

*Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro

Nearly 2k views within 10mins - Congratulations Luetin, it fills my heart with joy when i see your fully deserved success! Just basically stay that great guy, that's what and who we love!

I had a similar problem when trying to make Slaanesh chaos knights, Khorne is easy, nurgle equally so. But I essentially concluded that Slaanesh was (and this is very much head cannon) - A twisted sense of "Regality" appearing as the most beautiful and extreme thing in the room, being the most eye catching - An addiction to chasing the dragon, one upping yourself each time - To increase the overall amount of extreme experience in the galaxy - "Idol worship" seeing a sense of righteousness in pushing the limits of ability or understanding in a particular obsession (lucious in sword mastery, fabius bile in weird experiements) Some other great examples are the description of human beings first experiencing the laer temple for the first time in Fulgrim The way people describe being touched by Witchers in the witcher book series, perfect way of incorporating sensation into the lore without pissing off James Workshop in a way that would fit Slaanesh

Really enjoy the "Uncomfortable Problem" in his section. Great dialogue about 'spicy' content and the almost backwards hidden crusade against it. Well done Luetin.

The truth here is that GW doesnt want to engage Slanesh anymore because they are hunting the mythical "wider audience" while at the same time the hobby became popular enought to be noticed by newer "fans" who want to see it changed to suite their political goals. To that end you see them using phrases like "grimderp" to undermine the setting.

@inthefade

8 күн бұрын

Even older fans use the term Grimderp because they find some stuff too ridiculous. Personally, I think the galaxy is big enough to have every worst and most awful story actually happen in it somewhere. 40K is good when it is part over-the-top satire.

@Aberinkula9

8 күн бұрын

But "grimderp" DOES occur when writers within GW want to be depict something too horrible without solid ground that it becomes ridiculous. Example: Grey Knights sacrificing Sisters of Battle and bathing in their blood to fight daemons when they didn't need to.

@christianschulz1443

8 күн бұрын

@@Aberinkula9 yeah i heard that example to many times

@joaomachado1775

8 күн бұрын

I would suggest touching grass. You are starting to sound like TheQuartering.

@farkasmactavish

4 күн бұрын

pOlITiCaL

Earliest I've been here for a video. As always, thank you for the excellent lore videos and for the Luetin Sleep Club 👏

Perhaps that’s why Vashtor has been introduced, he’d be a more commercially safe 4th Chaos God

@Archon3960

Күн бұрын

Unless... wait, OH MY GODS, IT'S BE'LAKOR WITH A STEEL CHAIR!! (Wouldn't that be hilarious if we get a three-way battle between Be'lakor, Vashtorr, and Malice for the title of 5th Chaos God? ^^)

Listening to this, I'm reminded of that scene where Veck is psychologically torturing a prisoner by refusing to finishing his story with this man and the man starts to panic because of this due to the fact that this story might explain why he's in this situation and Veck is titilated by the fact that this man will never know ending as he's tortured forevermore. It's one of my favorite examples of the Dark Eldar emulating Slannesh in most vile and twisted ways that doesn't involve rape or sex or whatever. Veck is literally getting off to the fact that he knows and his victim doesn't. It's a wonderful example, imo.

The Fourth Kind really messed me up. Hit sorta close to home as at the time I would often have weird sleep disturbances that I later learned was seizure activity. The idea of the Filthy Xenos being right up there with the Primordial Annhilator as biggest enemies of mankind is, I think, Is right on the money. The movie Fire in the Sky gives me the creeps as well. The scene when he wakes up on an alien ship, in a completely incomprehensible setting and situation (zero g) is not what I would call a fun experience. I always think of the pair of eye glssses floating there, sans owner…that always gets me.

Slaanesh is too problematic to be grimdark… I wish we didn’t have to keep changing things to make people who never cared about it to begin with happy.

@playerone9824

8 күн бұрын

Yes yeeeess!

@rjfrantz539

8 күн бұрын

Preach

@FutureBoyWonder

8 күн бұрын

Gotta make things marketable for stuff like Hollywood

@deathrabbit8710

8 күн бұрын

Yeah, I feel like they want to get rid of Slaanesh just to make the universe more appealing to the mass market. Super sad, super pathetic.

@jasonking6499

8 күн бұрын

Your just mad that that 40k grown beyond you

You are the best! I love listining to your detailed stories. Keep it up! :)

As a recovering addict I can say there is pain in wanting so without ever getting enough, exstacy in glimpses and bits that are short moments of relief in the torment you feel. Don't hate the addict, they already do that enough by themselves..

My hometown is burning to the ground, and there's nothing I can do, save penance to the Emperor and lashing myself to normalcy with Lutein

@justarandomname420

8 күн бұрын

You could make Smores.

SLAANESH lore really have me feeling like a real addict they say should be feeling high but ,,,,,

the greatest trick Slannesh ever pulled was convincing the Warhammer universe he had been destroyed

Excellent video. I did not expect this deep an exploration, but it is quite thought provoking.

Thank you for the upload Luetin! Been watching you for years now and every video is a banger

I love the imagery and extent of slaanesh things when you actually get to see them or really think about how really fucked up they are. It's something that's almost taboo to touch on in any way that does it justice because of the extremes of it compared to anything else it feels like.

@logangodofcandy

7 күн бұрын

Real world people that would worship slaanesh would never acknowledge that anything they do is extreme or unreasonable. Hellraiser type stuff would be a Tuesday afternoon to them.

The film Seven could be a really great template for the exploration of the nature of Slaanesh. It shows very little by way of graphic content, but shows enough to stimulate the viewers imagination, which will always conjure far more horrific imagery than can be put on screen. A crime story that follows an Inquisitor investigating ever more serious and brutal crimes, seeing that progression from perhaps a sudden crime of passion into something much darker and giving rise to a Slaanesh cult, but while using the same model of suggestion and hints that Seven did could be a utterly gripping watch. I'd also be fascinated to have a "Final days of the Eldar" where Seers see what will come to pass but are ignored or dismissed. One of the tragedies of the Star Wars Prequels that I think gets overlooked is that fans know what Anakin's fate is. similar tale where we see various Eldar figures desperately trying to prevent the Fall could be a a good watch. I think Chaos can be depicted in its full, untamed horror, but only if writers are clever with their techniques. No, we can never put the full horror onto film, but that would lessen the impact of that horror. The terrors not seen are the ones that scare us the most after all.

For literally all the reasons you suggested, I've like speculated that Games Workshop is looking for a way to kill off Slaanesh and replace them with another chaos god (i.e. Vashtorr). Maybe leave trace amounts of influence, but Slaanesh is already one of the least thematically represented gods anyway exactly because of how difficult it would be in a way that wouldn't just create needless controversy, even if you don't go the lewdapocalypse route. A lot of people also suspect some kind of endtimes events like in fantasy warhammer that transitions the universe into a different state and many thought the splitting of the imperium would be that, but hey maybe it will be, with a literal light vs dark imperium now eternally fighting each other. One backed by an empowered Emperor and his reawoken/returned primarchs and the others empowered by Bile's new humans, the dark mechanicus, and Vashtorr's addition to the chaos Pantheon to replace Slaanesh. This would also allow the eldar to have a second wind and refresh as a faction too as some of their former power returns, maybe do something with infinity circuit souls being reborn into like super eldar of some kind or something.

Lunch break plans made! Looking forward to the lore!

Slaanesh is fundamentally incompatible with WH40K's PG-13 rating. You're never going to get the full fat descriptions of what the Chaos gods are actually like nor what their followers really get up to (or even look like) beyond a given writer using their single "fuck" per book to throw something out. I'd also argue the price point is equally incompatible with that rating as well but that's a whole different discussion.

Desire as the death of duty is clearly a theme I think GW/Black Library writers will always want to have in the locker, so I'm not convinced we'll see 'The Death of Slaanesh' (Tm). To say nothing of the way that the theme of debauched excess can be used a mirror through which our own society can be satirised. I think, like much of 40k lore first devised in the 1980s and 90s, it is already in the process of metamorphosis to remain relevant to a modern audience, and no doubt as with any such change some people will appreciate that and others will not.

Luetin I have been watching your vids for 8 years or so now. You never cease to impress or entertain me. Cheers from California.

1:20- Exactly what a tzeentch supporter would say.....INQUISITOR!

Video out before bedtime, must wait

The idea is to make 40k more and more marketable and consumed by the general public. "Grimdark" is being filtered out to just be a general power fantasy sci-fi

@inthefade

8 күн бұрын

That is the main reason why Ultramarines rub me the wrong way. They're authoritarians, kinda, but nothing like the grimdark of the rest of humanity. It's safe.

Pride month was an absolutely CHOICE time to release this video.

@ExtremeEnthusiast704

2 күн бұрын

Why? Are you worried about the people you hate?

@carsandsports123

13 сағат бұрын

​@@ExtremeEnthusiast704Projection much

I have always said Slaanesh is possibly the strongest Chaos God. The god of “EXCESS”, all things to excess. Not just torture and sexy time, but also the more esoteric ideas. The Khornite warrior that reveals not just in slaughter and blood, but his own ability for it. The Nurgle worshiper, feeling the pleasure of the plagues she spreads, or a sorcerer who basques in the complex scheming of his plots. Those acts of excess are what draws the attention of She Who Thirsts. But over all yes. I do agree that Slaanesh is more or less the idea of how subtle corruption can start.

@Ultra04channel

8 күн бұрын

I like this interpretation. Even in the Total War trailers, you can see the Slanessh daemon immediately get interested when he sees a Khornate warrior tearing through his forces with ease. Not fear, not "Ah yes, a worthy opponent", it's intrigue. A bit of pleasure too. But in the end, Chaos is all feeding each other more without even realizing it. The excess of the other three feeds Slanessh, the wars waged by them feeds Khorne, the underhanded schemes to take over planets feeds Tzeentch, and the inevitable decay caused by every last destructive action feeds Nurgle.

I WILL SINGLEHANDEDLY RESURECT SLANESH! **opens incognito browser**

@Aberinkula9

8 күн бұрын

[Browse all DeviantArt]

@olgagaming5544

3 күн бұрын

You have a mission, brother! Stay strong!

I think the reference to Saw isn't a lowbrow choice. Jigsaw/John Kramer's philosophy totally vibes with Slaanesh and feels like a Drukhari flavored heroic bent.

Cant wait for slaanesh to be toned down so we can have anya taylor joy play them in a live action. Jack Black as Nurgle, the rock as Khorne and Ryan Reynolds as Tzeench..maybe Kevin Heart as Abaddon

Fundamentally if GW wants Slaanesh to be seen as something other than the god of sex, they need a new set of mainline combat units for their daemon army that isn't "sexy demons with crab claws". Perception starts with the miniatures. If Slaanesh is all forms of pleasure, all forms of excess, then you'll need to portray the gluttony and greed in the miniatures as well.

Unfortunately, this is the one thing I feel will probably happen due to Amazon's intervention. I don't like it, but unfortunately, Slanessh is something the general audience would complain about. I do hope the fourth chaos faction isn't removed, but removing the grim-dark from the far future is certainly something that the corpos running the show would do to drive engagement and sales.

@BESTGINGEREU

8 күн бұрын

This would cause the death of 40k as we know it.

@BigPapaE

8 күн бұрын

Biggest reason there hasn't been an update on the Amazon show I think

@theoldman5896

8 күн бұрын

​@@BESTGINGEREUThat's their goal

@ErebosGR

8 күн бұрын

*Slaanesh is something Americans would complain about.

@theoldman5896

8 күн бұрын

@@ErebosGR Slaanesh is simply a far-too-accurate representation of the average woke Amerilard, so they consider it offensive.

I have a feeling sleeping to this might change me. Also, thank you Luetin. You sound like safety.

Happy Slaanesh Month everyone!

It is going to be a beautiful horror to behold the destruction of this franchise as GW desperately seeks mainstream approval.

Seeing Idoloftheeasr's art had me giggling and I was very surprised to hear a reference to Soren. The true horror of Slaaneshbis something worth exploring and I hold out some hope for interesting story. We'll see.

Being ok with extreme violence and being very prude about sexuality is a very American problem.

Luetins desire for more detail in the descriptions is truly slaneshi

It's almost like 40k began as a niche franchise and it's extremes aren't very suitable for mainstream.

Always a good day when a new Luetin video is posted.

I just laid down and was looking for something to listen to, thankyou Leutin you absolute legend xx

@BearPawSwipe

8 күн бұрын

Indolence takes you! Enjoy the coast.

@user-nu7xc4wp1h

8 күн бұрын

Nice name lmao

Well Slanessh is so much more terrifying and also easier to depict actually. It is excess. Like a planetary gov who addicted of tobac wants to get even better product, or a priest being too much devoted to the Emps leading a Slaneshi corruption, or a kasarkin captain being too pridefull of doing their duties, or a manifactorum worker having way to enjoyment producing ammo for the guard. It can be the most subtle or the most obvious things. But when depicting it they go all for s.x sells and then act like they are the victims of public media. Yes it is also a part of it, no it doesnt needs to be that much s.x gore. Actually almost everything in Imperium lies in the domain of Slanesh and Tzeench, like Inqusition can/(head canon) is a breeding ground of Slanesh and Tzeench corruption.Thats perhaps why we dont get to see legendary Inqusitors kept alive with gene therapies and etc. If they depict Slaneesh and its corruption as what it is and what it can be then there wouldnt be any reason for GW so stay away from Slanesh content.

I heard in 2024 Slanesh came to Earth. He just happened to come to Eurovision, took notes and left inspired.