Great video, AmorSciendi! But, when you were talking about how art doesn't "do" anything, I couldn't help but recall Brian Eno's recent explanation of art: Art is all the things we don't have to do. For example, we need to eat, but we don't need cuisine. We need to cover ourselves, but we don't need fashion. We need shelter, but we don't need architecture. Art is one of the most basic human traits, as we have been uselessly beautifying our surroundings since we lived in caves. We don't need music, but without it some of us wouldn't consider life worth living. So, maybe (just maybe) what art "does" is to make life worth living. That's a pretty important function. Oh, yeah, I'd just like to add: If Eno is correct about art, then it won't end until humans are extinct.

@AmorSciendi

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. One day I'll make a video about Brian Enos art theory. He actually has quite a lot to disagree with Danto.

@asimplenameichose151

Жыл бұрын

C.S. Lewis has a similar commentary re: the arts (or beauty - the aesthetic) not being something with 'survival value' but rather being that which gives value to survival.

@ExpectMiracles55

Жыл бұрын

@@asimplenameichose151 and therefore, back to Eno, art won't end until humans are extinct. It's in our DNA a constant need for expansion, to sublimate the human condition, a soul's quest if you will. Thank you for your invaluable insight

@drebugsita

Жыл бұрын

Makes a lot of sense! And it makes me think of Victor Frankel's book "Man's Search for Meaning," that we are meaning making creatures. Goring off of that, art is a way to transform our suffering - inherent to the human experience - into something that is meaningful to oneself, and even, others

@fromthepeanutgallery1084

Жыл бұрын

Correct: Art is nourishment for the spirit/soul.

Thanks for this. I learned a lot, and there's so much to unpack it's hard to know where to start. It seems to me that the focus on Plato and Hegel leaves out half the story. We overlook the Aristotelean idea that an artist does not simply imitate nature, but creates something new--that is, the work of art itself. And Plato never seems to entertain the notion that art might exist in the realm of ideas as much as anything else does.

@andsalomoni

Жыл бұрын

Actual art is the embodiment of an idea. Not imitation, but the physical manifestation of an idea (idea/image/sentiment, that doesn't need explanations or conceptualizations, it directly manifests itself), so I don't see contrasts between Plato, Aristotle or whatever philosopher.

@victormorgado5318

Жыл бұрын

They overlook the Romantic movement of the XIXcentury which defied the rationalism of philosophers, and which gave us expressionisn, Dada and Surrealism and even psychedelic art through the 1960s, Pluralism is not the end of the story, it is just a conventional mass trend masked by pseudo intelectual efforts on philosophical art

Thank you Amor Sciendi . . . . wow! what a fabulously clear 'gathering' of so many threads of discourse around what art is, what it does, where its been and what's here now. I read Danto's The End of Art and his What Art Is recently and was stimulated but also overwhelmed. Listening to this twice (and I will listen again) was like someone opening the door of a very stuffy room and letting a fresh spring breeze blow through. I cannot begin to express how grateful I am for the work of scholarship, compression, interlacing , capaciousness, pure scope, and brilliant communication that you've created here. You've been of true service to me (and I'm sure to many others). You are a brilliant teacher. I'll be one of your Patreon patrons as long as you're doing such powerful work.

@AmorSciendi

Жыл бұрын

Wow. Thank you so much for this. That is so kind. Really, thank you

@BailelaVida

Жыл бұрын

Wow. Big praise there, gray. Deserving, I'd agree [wouldn't condition my support this way, though..]

Thank you, what a great, insightful presentation, a very rare find on this platform. A gem indeed!

wow ! I'm instantly a fan and will DEFINITELY be checking out all your other videos. Thanks SO much for showing us the direction YT should be taking with it's entire platform...deeper examinations and LESS knee-jerk reactions.

Thank you so much for providing so much context and tying it all together, fantastic video!

Thank you for sharing your broad and rich understanding of art so clearly. I probably got more out of this video than the many years of art history classes through out my formal education.

Okay, mind sufficiently blown. A lot to take in, concisely and sincerely expressed, thank you.

These ideas have been swirling around in my brain, thank you Amor Science for contextualizing it so beautifully.

This video was so thought provoking and interesting, after watching I went immediately and joined your Patreon. Keep up the good work.

@AmorSciendi

Жыл бұрын

Wow thanks so much

This was amazing. Great presentation ❤

Great ! Thank you for your time and explanation.

Wonderful, thoughtful, critical analysis. I really enjoyed! Thank you for posting! ❤

This was really interesting and offered insights I hadn’t considered before. Thank you!

Clear, educational and delightful!

Thank you for your work and for sharing your knowledge and thoughts with us.

@AmorSciendi

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment!

So many thought provoking points in this video. Thank you for sharing!!

Extraordinary. Made me think so differently about the idea of depiction as conviction, only to have the idea turned on its head. Compelling ideas here, and now I want to read more of Danto. Such resonant depth of research, related with precision and clarity. I look forward to all the podcasts. Exhilarating way to have one's ideas renewed.

Really high quality survey and analysis of the issue and relevant theory

I appreciate the amount of work that went into this video. Clearly a labor of love. It definitely taught me a few things and gave things to think about as I pursue my own vision of what art is.

@robertalexander2478

Жыл бұрын

You took the words right out me mind mon

I really enjoyed this video. Thanks!

This is great, thank you for this invaluable lesson.

Definitely thought-provoking. Thanks, and Happy Trails

Excellent Video, thanks so much for uploading!

@AmorSciendi

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Glad you liked it!

So glad I found this!

Another great video, really interesting to see how things have moved on since I studied Art History back in the late 80's

@mikesamovarov4054

Жыл бұрын

Art now is mainly a hobby, and most people in the West have creative practices. It's just lost its monetary value, infinite number of offers and zero demand.

fantastic! concise and incisive without feeling like a mere synopsis. I had been thinking in terms of every medium reaching a point where it is incapable of creating anything genuinely new (baring an unforeseen technological advancement in tools/raw materials) at which point it resorts to quotation and pluralism. This video is forcing me to reevaluate. Thanks.

Thanks for this really good reflection.

Lovely stuff. Cheers.

Well done, Amor. Instant subscriber.

Thank you for your summary. I have just read this book. Now everything is on place.

so much knowledge in a single video i love itttt

You have tied together so many of the dangling loose treads of knowledge learned over my life. This video now ranks as a one of the Top Five in my list of MUST SEE on KZread. Thank you for being such an effective teacher!

@AmorSciendi

Жыл бұрын

Wow that's a big compliment. I'm so happy you found value in it. As you can imagine this 20 minutes is the result of hours and hours of reading and writing. It's nice to hear that it added value for someone other than myself.

@oneoftheninetynine3953

Жыл бұрын

lol word salad nonsense

Really good video that covers so many things like art, philosophy, association with time (context), emotion, technical change (camera) and so forth. This video in a short period, rationally covers so many ideas rather well.

Really great video, you were able to explain complex philosophical position's in a lucid and concise way that made it accessable to a broad audience. Well done.

Great video great explanations!

Very enlightening, thanks

Wonderful video. I've always thought about how art movements have defineable time periods, but with the introduction of the internet, vasts amount of art movement microcosms are constantly being born, and constantly dying. The art world has become so volatile and so complex now that it's within everyone's hands.

@judeannethecandorchannel2153

Жыл бұрын

Wow! Fascinating! This sounds like something to be concerned about... I've no expertise in the contemporary art world. Just a love of ALL the arts (I'm a writer / poet) throughout the ages... Of course our exponentially evolvinf IT science is going to change everything. Probably destabilize. Maybe destroy art history development as we know it. If only the Geni of technology could ever be put back in the box or kept in check. It determines us when we should determine its development.

@xyan3191

Жыл бұрын

@@judeannethecandorchannel2153 It's not something to be concerned about, nor is it destroying art history development, simply because this exact thing was always happening. The reason why art history has defineable periods is for the same reason why we have defineable generations - these are periods of time affected by major events or ways of thinking that trend towards a certain style. Art of different capacities were still being made during the Baroque period, but because those things werent the popular or common thing, the era is defined clearly by the things that were popular, circulated, and taught. But thats a very Eurocentric view because ALSO at the same time, art around the world was being produced, and being popularized, in their respective groups/cultures/populations. Different movements within this current internet era can still be studied, explained, defined, but at the end of the day it allows more avenues for the common person to partake in the arts as opposed to having an aristocratic sum of money to pour into materials and education required. As far as AI goes, it shouldnt be a concern of replacing artists, but moreso that our societies arent properly set up to effectively use AI as a tool. AI is pandering and capitalizing to the masses that dont have the money or time to afford the luxury commodity that is art, and on the flipside AI is being used as a very useful tool by current artists to supplement or expedite workflow. At the end of the day, any amount of work that can be replaced or automated is detrimental in societies that say if you cant work, you starve (aka almost every "modern" human society) Art isnt an entity, but a collection of pieces that are made by people in different periods of time, and the cycle of death and creation of art movements, regardless of the scale and pace, is only healthy for the medium overall.

@andrewjohnstone963

Жыл бұрын

In everyone's hands brilliant just as Duchamp hoped it would be and not just in the hands of the arbitors of taste and what is fashionable Art for all by all There are far too many people especially in the last 30 years who have got seriously off with murder Tracy Emin Damian Hurst amongst many others Complete nonsense Ive came across better discoveries in junk shops and in puddles in the street Art for all not the few who take themselves far too seriously and its tedious in the extreme 😮

@rakeemkoroma2398

Жыл бұрын

that’s just the thing, i’m a young person that loves art and to me art is everywhere, when you look for it and don’t look for it. Your right in terms of microcosms, and my take on it is simply that the artist no longer is bound to a single art form, but instead can be their own, with their own audience. Essentially all i’m saying is everyone has the freedom of being in their own lane, but to not be stagnant have to be able to evolve with our times, truly reflecting their growth as a person

@andrewjohnstone963

Жыл бұрын

@@rakeemkoroma2398 Spot on young person 👌

Wow! that was great! Thank you for one of the best lectures I´ve listened to in quite a while. I learned from it. Thank you.

@AmorSciendi

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome! Thanks for taking the time to comment

Great video!

This is just brilliant!

@AmorSciendi

Жыл бұрын

Thanks James!

@grosbeak6130

Жыл бұрын

You're easily impressed.

@BailelaVida

Жыл бұрын

@@grosbeak6130 Nah. Might be you have a tendency to be easily unimpressed, gros. Just saying.. Cheers

Nice work. ❤

thought provoking video Thank you.

thank toy for the interesting video. in some point i had to slow it down so i can keep up with all the ideas...

excellent. thank you for thr review and the logic of Danto

Excellent! So much to ruminate on here…

Great talk… made me Think - and I love that. Now I need to explore ✌🏼

@pstotto

5 ай бұрын

Taurus with thesaurus...

Beautiful way of speaking, thanks.

WONDERFUL TITLE / PREMISE. I'LL WATCH THIS ASAP. I've never seen this channel before‼️ Liked and Subscribed 🙋🏼‍♀️❤️🙋🏼‍♀️💜🙋🏼‍♀️❤️🙋🏼‍♀️

I haven't heard of 'retinal art' before, but it perfectly encapsulates what I like about art (and recontextualises my undying love for art nouveau). I appreciate the philosophy input, but I'll stick to my pretty paintings, sculptures and furniture ;) Thank you so much for this video, even if the conclusions I reach are so different from yours

Well put.

Thought provoking ideas about art which I will have see again and again. One of the ideas that came to my mind is that lots of contemporary art I see to comes with, or requires a commentary by the artist or or an art critic, to explain to the viewer what the resulting painting or sculpture is about or means. There is a part of me that is feels, or believes, or questions that if an art work needs an explanation to understand, or comprehend, or appreciate it, then the artistic endeavor is more of a ‘trick” or hoax. Now I will begin to question that idea or criticism. Thank you.

many thanks/ glad to have found this talk

@AmorSciendi

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to say so

Extremely clearly explained.

Thank you very much for this outstanding lecture

@AmorSciendi

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking the time to write this comment. It means a lot to me.

Good stuff thank you!

Solid analysis, congrats

Excellent synthesis and presentation, trying to be as fair as the format allows to both philosophy & art, very informative and refreshing, much appreciated kind Sir.

@AmorSciendi

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for leaving this comment. Warms my heart

Interesting video, but I find it sad that, as an artist who has lived and breathed art as a career and otherwise, that absolutely nothing I love about art is even remotely addressed in this video. I appreciate you sharing the views of these philosophers, and your explanations of their philosophy, but nothing could be more far removed from the thoughts and life of an actual artist. In my opinion at least. Someone who paints, someone who sketches, someone who sculpts with the aim to develop their skills, to create something beautiful and meaningful to them, to tell stories with their art and reach people with their chosen form of expression… the lens through which an actual artist views the meaning and purpose of art is removed from this discussion entirely.

@AmorSciendi

Жыл бұрын

Can't fit everything into every video. This was a video about theory, not practice. I have another video called "art is a process" that focuses on Michelangelo's slave sculptures. That might be more of what you're looking for.

@Strange_Logik

Жыл бұрын

@@AmorSciendi I’m not saying that I think you should have included more. I’m saying that, in my opinion at least, all of the philosophers and their 2 cents each all add up to a bunch of dudes trying to fit something they didn’t understand into their lines of logic. Whether using philosophy to try to tear it down, or build it up, it all sounds like the words and wisdom of people who never actually did it or understood it.

@hugholiveiro2081

Жыл бұрын

AGREED!

@scarletohara6743

Жыл бұрын

Art is wordless. Your lecture is words. Perhaps Danto was the contemporary equivalent of Warhol in art history/philosophy etc.

@timetobenotdo

Жыл бұрын

You’re mixing or confusing the discussion of craft with the discussion of the philosophical and academic discourse. And yes, it is an opinion about the thoughts and lives of artists, to politely say the least. For centuries, an immense amount of time and energy has been given to mining the intention, motivation, composition, subject, and so on in order to channel source into the work or arrive and something that really pops or sings or disrupts, etc. The academic discourse was natural and necessary. Competitive inspiration and motivation was/is a major force in human history. If you are a gifted and engaged mathematician you must understand the pillars upon which you stand. They don’t come out of the blue running through the halls exclaiming, “Look what I have discovered!” Only to have an well studied individual look at them and say, “Dude, Pythagoras discovered that centuries ago.” But the discourse of art, int this respect, is not open like the sciences, and does seem to have run its course. Some would/could say that philosophy as a discourse is over as well, but I don’t agree. Not with integration and exponential development of info tech. Anyways, this is what is, at least for a while, “over” with art. Has been for a min. So, yes, enjoy your craft! I just took up oil painting last year. Amazing! X

Hey! You taught at Ross school! Fascinating video, gave me a lot of pause. Thank you.

@AmorSciendi

Жыл бұрын

I did. What's up Sergei. You still making metal sculptures? Your senior project was legendary

Great work.

Thank you for this vidéo ! It is liberating . I am not crazy to enjoy both ancient art and modern art in very different ways 😊

Excellent video.

I’m so glad I listened to this throughout. I found myself strongly disputing where I thought this was going initially, but it’s marvellously tied up at the end . Thank you. I absolutely agree that the schism comes from the chemical plate process, and the birth of photography. Hockney was done some invaluable exploration in this field I think. So I found myself grasping for a quote from Nietzsche at the start, which admittedly may not be as purposeful as I first thought, but I still think it demonstrates in some regard the self actualisation that art has undergone - “Had we not approved of the arts and invented this type of cult of the untrue. The insight into general truth and mendacity that is not given to us by science. The insight into delusion and error as a condition of cognitive and sensate existence, it would be utterly unbearable. Honesty would lead to nausea and suicide. But now our honesty has a counter force that helps us avoid such consequences. Art has the goodwill to appearance, as an aesthetic phenomenon its existence is still bearable to us. And art furnishes us with the eye and hand, and above all, the good conscience to be able to make such a phenomenon of ourselves “

@AmorSciendi

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for leaving this. I hope you found it useful/interesting enough to check out some of my other videos.

"The only excuse for making a useless thing is that one admires it intensely. All art is quite useless.” OSCAR WILDE

@mikesamovarov4054

Жыл бұрын

Art is a great hobby and has healing effects. But yes, it's worthless in the marketplace. Almost all westerners have creative hobbies, but there's zero demand for the art pieces. Art is horrible as a business! Art is superb as a hobby!

@ALSeth-Storyteller

Жыл бұрын

@@mikesamovarov4054 Indeed. But the reason I posted Wilde how brilliant and simple his insight is towards art.

thanks, this video really with my presentation in philosophy!

@AmorSciendi

Жыл бұрын

So glad I could help

very good. very clear

this is a good- BUT THE EMOJI PAINTING BEHIND YOU I CANT

@AmorSciendi

Жыл бұрын

It's so good. I have a video about it

love your video

Excellent summary and analysis. The fact that you closed with a viewpoint is also appreciated. Posters don't always do that. So thanks. That said, a few questions: 1. You say philosophers "relegated" art to expression and emotion. Is emotion also a form of truth inquiry? Can truth only be found or discovered by the application of reason, not intuition? Can something "feel true", and be true, even if one cannot explain it logically? To further this, can a full grasp of a given truth be reached with reason only, absent a feeling of that truth? 2. Art had no reason or utility. This is the narrative philosophers tried to dump art into, unsuccessfully you argue, by stating that it was impotent. But before we get to your conclusion, which argues, correctly one could say, that philosophers failed in this nefarious attempt. Does emotion have a role in the utility or use of an idea or happening or person even? What moves a person to act? Is it not feeling? Reason can and perhaps should provide the structure within which an action is taken, a movement made. But is it not feeling that provides the fuel for that action? Are they not like dance partners, switching leads depending on the time and place of the dance, but dancing most cohesively and beautifully when they are joint/move as one? 3. Perceptual equivalence: how do we know what something really is, is it by its closest or most accurate physical depiction whether in repose or movement? Or is it by searching for a glimpse into its inherent or intrinsic qualities or values? Its nature? The Portrait of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde, for example, examines this. What was the most accurate depiction of Dorian Gray, according to that tale. In other words, does art posses in addition to its "mimetic properties" as you put it, revelatory potential? 4. Pluralism. If this is where art, or at least the progression of Western art (paintings and sculpting mostly, as you point out, but perhaps even other forms of art like music and literature, as I think you imply), is this not to suggest that in the overarching debate about where Western art is progressing toward, Friedrich Nietzsche has won over Friedrich Hegel? For rather than Hegel's historical dialogues between different ages & cultures, where Western art appears to have ended at is Nietzsche's Perspectivism. The view that there is no one direction in art seems to draw from Nietzsche's there is no absolute view of truth, all viewing is attached to some perspective. So did he seed contemporary art? Once again, this is an excellent summary and analysis. Thanks for making and sharing it. I have subscribed.

Thank you!!!

Good video🥰!

Thank you for this, this is art ❤

That was incredible

you are just brilliant! thank you, fantastic

@AmorSciendi

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Thank you.

Thank you

In a nutshell: Danto argued that art has historically been defined by its ability to represent or embody certain aesthetic qualities, and it has gone through various stages and movements throughout history. However, with the advent of modern art and the rejection of traditional aesthetics, Danto claimed that art had reached a point where there were no longer any essential criteria or boundaries that could define what is or is not art.

@fixsationon7244

8 ай бұрын

Its a reflecton . Always has been. If there's some person who has been moved by something created by someone its artistic. Its magical. Because art isn't just visual. Its our culture.

@lordbunbury

7 ай бұрын

@@fixsationon7244You’re talking about one object or one experience. Danto is talking about art and its history in general. He’s not saying that nothing can be art. He’s saying the opposite: anything and everything can be art, and if anything can be art then there is no more story, no more history of what art is, or can be.

Just an outstanding video that earned you at least one Patreon sponsor, eager to check out your other videos. Sounds like Danto had an experience with the Brillo boxes like the one I had in Marfa Texas many years ago. Donald Judd has a bunch of stuff down there, and I don't know about now, but at that time there was a community of Minimalist and Post-Minimalist, whatever the difference is, artists exhibiting all over this little town, true believers far from New York and dreams of winning the big prize. I was confronted with art that was so close to nothing, but that also did have some sort of visual appeal, not just conceptual...haven't stopped thinking about it since. It's a wonderful thing when art actually startles your eyes open. I do wonder from your description what Danto thought Warhol had added, why he didn't think art stopped with Duchamp. Maybe because it wasn't Duchamp who startled him that day.

@AmorSciendi

Жыл бұрын

I have always wanted to visit Marfa. The description of Judd's work in Ben Lehner's novel 10:04 is inspiring. Some of the best art writing I've ever seen. My first answer to you question about Duchamp and Warhol is, as is my usual, I don't know. My second answer is that the difference is that Duchamp's ready made's often changed the object in some way (hang the shovel from the ceiling, turn the urinal on its side, put the bike wheel on the stool). He takes something that already exists and changes the context within which you're seeing it. Warhol saw the brillo boxes and then recreated them in his "Factory". So he's actually trying to create optical equivalence with the production, and making the clear link between daily experience and artistic production. I hope that makes some sense. Thank you so much for the Patreonage, and I'm sorry this comment took so long. I was traveling and didn't want to respond on my phone.

@pstotto

5 ай бұрын

That artist Bobby Peru, he been to Marfa, exhibited all over that town...

the best content on youtube!

@AmorSciendi

Жыл бұрын

Wow. That's high praise when The Assignment and CJ the X exist. Thank you

@mikesamovarov4054

Жыл бұрын

Where? 😂

Nice video on describing Danto's book and influence. The narrator here reflects greatly on Danto's book, especially within the philosophical viewpoints. I enjoy reading Arthur C Danto's After the End of Art, if only that I need to open to a random page every few days, and read his excellent art and related philosophy vernacular. I keep a glossy soft cover copy with me at all times, in my business valise, that a lady friend gave me some years ago. She had many handwritten footnotes on the pages. Also as a somewhat accomplished artist in the technical field of scientific and astronomy art, which my works have been published by NASA many times, I can't help but to think of a phrase I saw some years ago in the local newspapers during a big art event here in Portland Oregon. Art is not a product, it's a process. I find many people discussing it as only in the post process, as only a product, to either sell or critique. I see very few artists or commenters here, that are perhaps not artists, as to why they may only speak of art as if only a completed project, but very few mention the process of producing art.

One issue I had during the majority of the opening was your varying use of the word 'art' to mean either visual art or art as a general concept. For example, Plato may have opined that 'art' is a reflection of a reflection, as you put it... but he also thought (like Confucius) that music shaped the fabric of society and he had all kinds of opinions about the exact musical rules that should be followed to promote certain emotions and values in the minds of the general population. When you bring poetry and jazz into the mix and re-emphasise how certain philosophers had no time for 'art', I legitimately do not know whether you are referring to visual art (sculpting, painting) or everything. Apart from that, I very much enjoyed this. Thanks very much.

@user-gu9yq5sj7c

Жыл бұрын

When Sciendi or anyone says the word art I don't just think of one kind of art like just visual. Unless they specify. I think of all art, such as music or video games too.

@AmorSciendi

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for engaging thoughtfully with the essay. Near the end I address how Danto's explanation really only deals with visual art, and even more specifically, only painting. Do you have any videos that deal with these kinds of sweeping art theoretical concepts that focus on music? I was thinking of doing an episode on Susanne Langer's philosophy of art which would deal much more with music.

What a great discussion

@AmorSciendi

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

Loved it. Subscribed. Not sure agree with Danto, but I do agree to the extent of your final comments: pluralist, stimulating and provoking thought - yes; but having ended in philosophy... apples and oranges (says metaphysicist) Even had a bit of a problem understanding how he gets to that conclusion, the Hegel-Warhol thingy.. I'm afraid seems a bit contrived (to me), but actually loved the rest of his argument - and yours! Thanks for that. Cheers.

Well, this is as good as it gets in youtube.

excellent!

good video ... educational ... the fact that we have both artists as well as philosophers (and politicians etc) trying to 'make an impact' on other people's lives is a good thing no matter what ... but when one group tries to *totally* discredit another group, then we certainly have serious problems there that particular group(s) better deal with ASAP before it's too late, or disasters could (and have) happen(ed) as history is the best witness to that ...

Great vid my dude. I'd love to see a video where you expand on the thoughts you close with and investigate where the holes in the approach is. As an artist I'm deeply concerned with all of this!

After watching this very well done video and chewing on the content for while.... philosophy is like dating someone long distance online and playing head games for your whole life and sitting in shadows trying to understand shadows. Art feels like love, joy, peace, sunshine, a happy marriage, children playing, loving pets, a garden in the backyard, birds singing, and sparkles on crystal clear water. I don't think they mix well without it being a mental tail chase of depression and anxiety and mania that I just can't waste time on or I'll create nothing for no one and end up in a hospital hahahaha. Thanks for the video! I learned a lot as I overthought my overthinking that was overthinking what I overthought... until I couldn't think anymore and just decided to love

@danieldonaldson8634

Жыл бұрын

If art feels like that to you, how do you rank Goya's Black Paintings, for starters?

@abrahamhunterart2318

Жыл бұрын

@@danieldonaldson8634 Well, I can't speak for Goya about his art. I was just speaking for myself.

Great video. I am an artist, I am not dead. Have you read the book, Art and Physics: Parallel Visions in Space, Time and Light by Leonard Shlain? It is about how artist see it first then science follows, ie. first Giotto then Galileo. Its a great read about the parallel developments of Art and Physics. Thank You!

@warrencoutts9800

Жыл бұрын

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@mariabaca3941

Жыл бұрын

Yes, have read all of these books leonard Shlain is amazing. Enjoyed this video as well.

@HkFinn83

Жыл бұрын

This is more evidence that art is dead. If art was a vigorous and meaningful discipline, it wouldn’t need a book about how if you squint a little it’s kinda like physics, a real living and powerful discipline.

@kyleschaffrick3845

Жыл бұрын

​@@HkFinn83horrible take lmao

@csmrfx

10 ай бұрын

Technology precedes art in society. Artists just suffer from narcisism, they are just the elites that futz around playing with new medias. First you need the new medium! Then you can use the new media to express different ideas - Resulting artifacts just contain the novel thinking that follows from new technologies.

Very interesting indeed. I am an artist as well. It is giving me things to think about and new reasons create.

@mikesamovarov4054

Жыл бұрын

How much $ did you make selling your original art pieces? Art is a great hobby, but selling is practically impossible. Most are stuck being teachers, not actual artists.

great lunch companion...interesting😎

I paint, and acquired a degree from an art school thirty years ago. Though I do, in fact, read and enjoy philosophy, it has nothing directly to do with my painting, and the remark that conceptual art "looks like philosophy" made me smile. This touches upon a central criticism of the contemporary "art world", that it's easy to mimic process or content by being inscrutable. Of note here, the word "like", which can be a synonym for "pretension". Secondly, though Picasso couldn't stop Franco, nor did anyone else, so why pick on art? Thirdly, I've always wondered why painters have to justify their work, while poets and musical composers are not only allowed to engage in, but are even celebrated for their capacity to obtain lyrical sophistication. When I was in school, the word "beauty" was banned, and the worst pejorative imaginable was "decorative", which of course rendered painting, per se, somewhat difficult. I eventually overcame my naïveté by realising that everything in this world is a business, and the "conceptual" was the ideal golden vessel for reification, richly rewarding. What exactly is Jeff Koon's talent, what his contribution to human society?

@BailelaVida

Жыл бұрын

You make valid comments, robert. I agree with most of them completely. In summary a bit bleak and cynical, though, don't you think. Where's the facet of celebration of art. Of Life..? Just asking..

@robertalenrichter

Жыл бұрын

@@BailelaVida It's a deeply meaningful activity for me. Society is cynical, not me.

@mikesamovarov4054

Жыл бұрын

How much money did you make selling your original art pieces?

@leststoner

Жыл бұрын

Beauty will again!

Really useful thanks, I wonder how known Luhmann's Art as a Social System is in Art Theory

Interesting play on words. The end of art. To what ends will it go? No end is final. Art marches on, signifying whatever the artist and audiences want to signify. We make it all up.

That was really good.

@AmorSciendi

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

Wow ❤

As a contemporary artist myself this video very concisely the argument I have against most “retinal art” in how it is a product and not an artwork

you are right: contemporary art is blatantly about philosophical issues and often is straining for self-importance. Your explanation has softened my attitude, or sometimes cynical predisposition, to seeing what a museum considers important "art". Much contemporary art is not really about a "retinal" vision at all- like Duchamp proclaimed to abjure. Nor is the art presented even visionary... sometimes nothing more than hyperbolizing current ideologies in our faces-- but then perhaps that what it always was, as you pointed out? ! Having revealed that bias of mine, I realize that I also am bored with mimetic art, and despite my likes or dislikes, am more often captivated by the effrontery of both the museum and the "artist" or social commentator-cum-"artist". thank you for this broad sweep of an evolution of art. Truly. thank you.

Underrated video

@AmorSciendi

Жыл бұрын

Thanks