How this looks like in a real shuffle : whoever dies in the first round becoming kill target for the rest of the rounds 😂

@Traumschleier

Жыл бұрын

Confirm, that's how it's ALWAYS goes

@OldManDoom

Жыл бұрын

Yep, the healer will get salty and turn the entire group against you. Then not even try to heal you and just rant at you for the rest of the match

@UndeadAaronGames

Жыл бұрын

💯

@manthe3711

Жыл бұрын

@@OldManDoom I'm the healer, I can confirm I'm just as toxic as you said.

@Rethmaa

Жыл бұрын

@@OldManDoom report them for deranking. Did it many times this week and got 8 report back so far that they will recieve some as*beat.

Love to see a Plate wearing self healing class with an immunity shield is considered squishy. Only took Blizzard 18 years to see that this is an issue.

@BuckScrotumn

Жыл бұрын

Bro when I was young back in wrath I utterly despised Paladins. I was pissed that they literally got 2 lives with Lay on Hands 😂😂😂

@Qoozord

Жыл бұрын

Plate, cloth, does not matter. All classes are more or less the same in terms of survivability/damage. There is no RPG in WoW anymore

@User-iw8it

Жыл бұрын

@@Qoozord This isn't even close to being true, this has to be a troll comment lmao

@NotoriousIdiot

11 ай бұрын

Mate this guy is full of shit ive never had a warr or priest or shaman kill me not once

@NotoriousIdiot

11 ай бұрын

Ok so a warrior vs a priest whose cloth aint going make a diff? lmao@@Qoozord

Great Video props to the Cutter of the Video btw you allways put in insane amount of work i know how long it takes to cut good Videos..

As a lock, main I feel you missed the mark on the lock specs. You say demo is tankier than aff and destro, because it has soul link. Destro is also played with soul link. Yet destro is way easier to target and kill in solo shuffle. But why is that? I do think the placements are accurate, but for different reasons. Demo is so much harder to kill from my experience, because of the pet stun. You can assist your own survival so much, by just saving axe toss stun for moments when you get stunned for an enemy's kill attempt. Another asset for demo that makes it a less appealing target, is how it can do okay-ish sustain pressure just by casting dogs and putting up dooms. I spend most of my game just fearing and cursing the enemy, and if I get kicked on fear, I then can cast shadowflame school like hand of guldan and demonbolt. This just makes it that much harder for the enemies to line up a proper kill window. Also, it means that if they are not managing to kill me, they are not really stopping me from doing my job. Demo is not like destro and affliction in terms of the role you have. Destro and affliction have to hard cast and spend a lot of globals to min-max their damage. Their role is to mostly just do raw damage. You can focus down a destro/aff lock, and win by attrition as dampening ruins their defensives, and they still can't cast. However, demo mostly focuses around having a huge CC toolkit, a mortal wounds debuff, and mediocre burst. If you can just live and keep your pet alive, you can do your job even under heavy enemy tunneling. Even when trained by 2 melee, you can still use your toolkit to cross cc the entire enemy team while your team's other dps pops his burst. You can still get off nether portal and/or tyrant behind a pillar, to assist in pressure. TLDR: The difference between a focused demo lock and a freecasting demo lock, is not too huge. But the difference between a focused aff/destro, and a freecasting one, is huge. So u win a game by training aff/destro just by stopping them from playing and making the game a 2,5 vs 3. If you attempt the same against a good demo lock, he can still perform his role.

How in the world can a ele shamn be more tank then Affli lock?

@n0slava

Жыл бұрын

Same thoughts…

@LaxinitUp24

Жыл бұрын

I will say ele's have a lot of snares if you talent in static field and earth grab which pair well with gust of wind

@TB-tv2zf

Жыл бұрын

Yes absolutely ridiculous

@itscodyman2075

Жыл бұрын

they aren't, skill-capped is just wrong here. I hit gladiator back in MoP and took a break until just recently. They had a lot of useful information, but some stuff (like this) are just unbelievably wrong. Better to just take what they say with a grain of salt and measure it against your own experience.

Dh players don’t have targets. They just mash buttons on whatever they can see, chasing until they LOS their healer and die.

@SlobDooku

Жыл бұрын

They got buffed too what a joke 😂

@Primal_Echo

3 ай бұрын

I'm guilty of this. 😂

I'm only a minute into this video and I've already gained 3000 rating

@nojabhere

Жыл бұрын

I lost 900 braincells after watching this video 😂

I've been looking this video for years. For the first time ever I start to understand target selection. Very nice. =) Now I'll have to try to code a "target recommendation" weak aura, since there's zero chance I remember all this in an actual fight.

Thanks for exposing my weakness to all dps!

@neutral8891

Жыл бұрын

Muhahahahah

@nojabhere

Жыл бұрын

If you pay $6.99 you can get better 😂

Just what I needed, thank you 🙏

Should make this for the regular meta comps in 3s. Will help me out alot. I struggle on what target to kill alot.

NICE! TY!

As an aff lock, I have my pet out at the start for soul link but if I’m not the focus target then I sac and go at it.

Fantastic guidelines, this was sorely needed, thank you!

@NotoriousIdiot

11 ай бұрын

This has got to be a troll comment hes well wrong

Suggestion, a nice It'd be cool if there was an info-graphic for the different class combinations

Appreciate this. One match my team decided to attack a Ww monk instead of the destruction warlock, that’s when he started blasting and one shot me. Always train the caster.

Whats the best target then for Frost Mage/Demo Lock/Resto Druid? im assa rogue

since when is frostbite on a different dr than other novas?

Shadow priest in a solo shuffle lobby with 2 dk's or 2dh's with a dk or a dh is hella fun for us

@shetookthekids484

Жыл бұрын

its just as fun melee in a spellcaster lobby, tried arms for first time since legion and first lobby was ele evoker, mage. ofc i was the focus target lol

@stormskye3578

Жыл бұрын

@@shetookthekids484 it’s a far more melee meta than caster

@LeCaptRage

Жыл бұрын

@@shetookthekids484 Might balance itself out with the new patch though.

Ty

Will this video get update after the recent patches?

what about between balance and arms?

I have never played a class that I have been a targeted more than playing my ele shaman

@gureidens61

Жыл бұрын

Try playing restoshaman, its even worse...

@LaxinitUp24

Жыл бұрын

Its really teaching me how to kite though lmao

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I play Devastation Evoker and yeah I do find them squishy... but you don't mention Obsidian Scales? We can get 2 charges of it.

I love your commentary videos mate! i was wondering if you wanna aim for solo shuffle success as resto druid what stats are you aiming for? mosly mastery for healing?

In what world are warlocks squishier than ele shamans? I don’t play either one but that just seems way off

As an extra note, I think ret paladin is probably the squishiest of the melee if there is an opposing warrior or priest with super quick MD. I had a game where a pro-priest precast MD'd my bubble so fast that my teammates called me garbage for not bubbling, feelsbad.

@NotoriousIdiot

11 ай бұрын

Are you high? please explain how please

Aff lock squishy? How about big Shield every 45 sec, Drain life soulburn shield spam, Drain Life, Drain life damage reduction pvp talent, Soul link dmg reduction, big Wall, 2 teleports, passive hp regen, more hp than others, leech, curses from being crit hit, insta dots. And probably I missed something else. Gl on killing.

@itscodyman2075

Жыл бұрын

100%, biggest clown statement of the video. Came to the comments as soon as I heard that absolute troll of a caster kill tier list.

@cawus88

Жыл бұрын

they talk about rank1 players :D not like us regular mid lvl players :D for example rank1 warrior can kill 1.8k rating lock :D otherwise :D only warlock can kill a warlock :D

nice~!😍

Not even mentioning hunters? If you can wait for turtle to end, you just root them and blow your load on them and they die. Really good ones can effectively kite for quite a while, but even still, if you catch them they die.

Uh frost dks are most likely the most squishy class. How can you put unholy dk at the top, then ignore frost?

@ryanwars1789

Жыл бұрын

Because nobody plays frost really. Ive ran into maybe 2 frost dks over 100 games.

bro i feel like locks never die :D

If you think Affliction lock is squishy you are sadly mistaken 🤣

@ziggs123

Жыл бұрын

One kick and gg

@Apotheosis1113

Жыл бұрын

Pre nerf maybe

Putting Elemental in "mid or neutral" without explaining anything is just a big joke. Devastation might be similar but excluding that, Ele is the biggest glass cannon I've ever seen in my PvP experience. Ele's biggest defensive is running away and you can pick Many roots to achieve this, but melee uptime and utility in DF is insane so it's DEFINITELY still a "squishiest" target. Running also means no damage outside of flame shock. Edit: And don't speak about self-healing to me! No ranged/caster outside of spriests and warlocks have any. The mail classes do next to zero self-healing compared to the busted melee of DH/DK/Warr. Which makes no sense.

@creepcracker

Жыл бұрын

stop crying like a girl and man up

@MrZeuz666

Жыл бұрын

@@creepcracker Stop having a sub-par intellect

@adrianocorsi2864

Жыл бұрын

true

@jaimeperry7326

Жыл бұрын

I agree with this completely ... I want to play Ele because the crazy damage is fun but to suggest it's less squishy than my Affliction Warlock sounds crazy to me.

@MrZeuz666

Жыл бұрын

@@jaimeperry7326 Precisely. I've mained it forever. We actually had at least double the defense in SL, compared to everyone else who got more defense in DF. 🤦‍♂

Shuffle = First one to die is a punching bag.

The main target is the one that says ragnaros after the name

@FABBYFLAME

Жыл бұрын

i never understood this ragnaros thing

@1845net

Жыл бұрын

@@FABBYFLAME Most of the community regards players of the ragnaros server to be really bad at the game. It usually holds up.

@TheUnone

Жыл бұрын

@@1845net Most of the community regards are from Ragnaros* YEP

@rellik8746

Жыл бұрын

Ive met someone with scarab lord and 10glad mounts from Ragnaros, they have some good players

@1845net

Жыл бұрын

@@rellik8746 I mean, every server has good players. Moonguard has gladiators too, but that's not what they're known for.

DH falls so fast, just slow and nuke.

yeah dunno about this list. every solo shuffle im in on my mage or rogue its just train the mage. they die super fast and melee uptime is way too high.

Put out a video about the importance of purging BoP the amount of games I have lost because a shaman casts lava burst at full hp on a BoP’d target instead of purge is absurd. Sometimes people with a purge have the audacity to ask me why I dont shatter it as well… when we dont have a priest… they want me to trade the 3min cd that is the only thing on our team able to get rid if bubble and block for a purgeable ability.

Please do same list but for 10.0.7

i want to give it my all in this mode but the wait time is just too much

@jaimeperry7326

Жыл бұрын

play a healer

Сегодня играл арену 3*3 и против нас попался матчап аДК, ДХ и рДру)))) И кого фокусить?))))

There is data to suggest that affli lock is one of the tankiest dps, after unholy dk

@jamesferguson9890

Жыл бұрын

No shot lol

@Hashquatch

Жыл бұрын

It’s not even the tankiest warlock spec what

@brandenwatt

Жыл бұрын

It is if the lock knows how to get good soul burn, soul rot drains off

@madsolsenmed

Жыл бұрын

I play affl lock main, no matter if i have a war/dk training me i can survive for dumb amount of time xd This list is scuffed

@jaimeperry7326

Жыл бұрын

@@madsolsenmed I agree, I'm back after a long layoff so I suck at PVP ... I can survive a crazy long time on my warlock (any spec) as compared to any other caster.

I know ass rogue is the meta for rogues but I've always loved sub for its survivability.

@Kevin-nr9hp

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, don’t say “ass” rogue though, right? 😂

@AVB40000

Жыл бұрын

@@Kevin-nr9hp I know what I'm saying lmaooo

I love how they compared dmg in bear form(which is basically non existent), with SUPER-MEGA-UNPLAYABLE debuff to damage in warrior's def stance in -10 % 🤡

@CaledonianCraft

Жыл бұрын

20% ^ 10% less damage taken 20% less damage output. I believe that is being changed in 10.0.5 to 15% each way though.

@Inttallity

Жыл бұрын

@@CaledonianCraft You telling me prot is getting buffed? if so blizz are 🤡's

@CaledonianCraft

Жыл бұрын

@@Inttallity Aye defense stance for all 3 warrior specs is being changed to deal 15% less damage, take 15% less damage. It was previously deal 20% less damage, take 10% less damage. Arms warriors are looking spicy with the upcoming 10.0.5 changes that's for sure! Ignore pain making a comeback, improved chance of mortal strike proc's and this tweek to d stance is going to make them a killing machine.

Genuinely wondering why this is what people do now. Back in my old wow days, where i was relatively solid rating, it was ALWAYS target the healer, NO MATTER WHAT in 2s, and most often in 3s. I dont understand why things are the way they are now as far as target priority. Could someone explain it to me like im a 4 year old?

Didn't even see it and I'm loving it already

One of the only things I agree with here is how squishy assa rogues. Targeting any lock is a waste of time.

I have literally more things to slip away than mages as a BM hunter, and its squishy? I mean yeah if you're attacked and you got nothing you're pretty much dead.... but scatter shot/binding shot , trap, tar trap, steel trap, disengage, turtle, exhiliration, survival tactics, feign death..... ?

You forgot to talk about enh shaman?

@mrbigotes9974

Жыл бұрын

Well, Enh is really Just RShaman but always targeteable. They do not have exclusive defensives for their added risk of being meele, they heavily Die to cleave dmg, and their defensives is really a worse SI for druid.

ret bubble is a 3.5 min cd and lasts 0.2 sec, some will say "oh but when you are low hp and bubble you need to be far away to not be dispelled since you also have so high mobility" ret is such a joke trolled by all including blizz :))

Gotta disagree with fire mage ranking. Once I got most gear up to max I feel invincible lol, alter time is sooo OP once used correctly, with the displacement and 3 blinks, plus shield FB and blast wave you can chain it to only having around 12 secs of downtime, also knowing typical burst of other classes I'm simply at full health, healer hardly has to worry about me lol.

no shot that demo isnt the tankiest of the rangest classes LOL you have wall + gate + tp + soul link + healthstones +70k more hp than the other classes im biased I literally play demo and even I can admit it is absurdly tanky for a caster

3:00 Dk has 17% of damage reduction when he is under 35% og health in pvp, and death strike is over nerfing in pvp too, you can see rextroy's video talking about that

@keonepatterson327

Жыл бұрын

Just bc it got recently nerfed doesn't mean it's not strong still

@ziggs123

Жыл бұрын

DK players are the most delusional players ever

@gersonrr6274

Жыл бұрын

@@keonepatterson327 I didn't say that they are not strong, I'm just correcting some points of the video

@Mounthuapleb5890

Жыл бұрын

@@ziggs123 can't disagree there. More tanky than rets though. 15yrs and ret paladins haven't changed..unfortunately.

Waddling like a penguin is how we ride, baby

Where is the full video lol?

11:45 the title says "melee recap" and not "healer recap" :P

SPriest was so fun and now i feel so much pain vs meeles. U cant kite them, u cant burst them.....kick stun reflekt ....its just time for reroll

@Marruisz

Жыл бұрын

I feel you brother. Warriors outside their burst does way more dmg than spriest during burst now.

this is the most important tier list because Solo shuffle is basically a game of smear the ____ if you know what i mean. Who's the mark. That's who we killing lol

how is affliction squisshy when they do like 15k hps

Season 6 vids?

As a pally i was already focused but with this video... 😢

@kiillinit

Жыл бұрын

lol I feel your pain brother

Another thing that's horribly scuffed about the logic in this video, you gave the example of ele devo on a team and say you should focus the devo. How about no? An ele shaman has great peels for their team. Root totem, static totem, earth shock>frost shock roots. They have off-heals, and if left alone will be able to get hexes off and spam purge if need-be. I would never waste my time dumping on a devo if there's an ele on the enemy team, not even once.

RIP holy pallies 💩

the only problem with SS are the queue times, hell noooooooooooooooooooooo

Cape & helm showing

You keep mentioning armour type like it has mattered at all since MoP 😂

Taking a guess before watching: train the blue

@cordneystewart2314

Жыл бұрын

As an rsham....that seems to be the general consensus

@this_smitty23

Жыл бұрын

All the fotm eles put an exclamation point on this.

@michaelalbano3459

Жыл бұрын

@@this_smitty23 personally still playing enh, and resto if friends need a healer lol

@cordneystewart2314

Жыл бұрын

@@this_smitty23 I main ele, but the queues are some bullshit so I'm learning resto

@this_smitty23

Жыл бұрын

@@cordneystewart2314 I literally did the same thing on my Evoker. I can't play 8+ hours a day to climb shuffle as dps.

*cries in hunter*

I didn’t hear any talk on survival

Putting warlocks in squishiest is a joke Right ? … Right ?

@Lachofig

Жыл бұрын

not really, lol focus them and you'll win almost 90% of the times you go against them. No mobility besides their tp

@Psikick4

Жыл бұрын

100% a joke. 1500 solo shuffle take.

@SonOfABitch777

Жыл бұрын

I'm 1600 right now and new to arena in general, so I might not know what I'm talking about, but I play a demo lock and effectively act as a tank in solo shuffle. Almost every game, all the damage and cc is focused on me, leaving my healer and dps buddies to do their things with near total freedom. My win/loss ratio is in the positive, so I must be doing something right, right?

@Lachofig

Жыл бұрын

@@SonOfABitch777 thats why, once you get to 2100 as a warlock youll be grilled cheese for most comps lol. Trust me when I see a lock I get a relieve and know ill win the match lol

9:04 ;D

sry but since this release evoker is unplayable. At 1k shuffle rating people just train evoker down while healer is figuring out what to press against heavy cd usage. Thanks for letting warrior and dh players know which target to chose. We love it 👀

Ratedbattle grounds guides

Holy hell these u.i. are crazy how can ppl play like that

Mage is not tanky. Ice Block gets dispelled or shattered, and so does alter time.. they are easily trainable. Idk how you can say they arent!

@pagecreator6545

Жыл бұрын

git gud scrub

@kiillinit

Жыл бұрын

Now imagine being a mage with 1 ice block, 30 sec forbearance, and zero mobility. That's a ret pally.

@andytheindividual3862

Жыл бұрын

@@kiillinit yes, I main one. And their damage is wayyyy easier to get off I'd say!

Just train the blue

This is the very first video I’ve ever seen that mentions locks being squishy. With all the mobility, I can say, good luck. Silly! All three specs should be where Mages are.

Healer tier list says melee

i am watching this while leveling assassination with passion shame on you guys

Shadow Priest is more tanky than Mage. Especially in Solo Shuffle with no coordination. Mage needs lots of coordination from his team, Shadow Priest does not need as much.

@ziggs123

Жыл бұрын

Clueless, mage is the only caster probably that can actually kite and decide whenever he wanna take dmg or not. Watch some r1 arcane/ frost mages, they are the most tanky caster by far. Root slow cc also counts for being tanky.

@sabotage7773

Жыл бұрын

@@ziggs123 you are not getting his point, in higher rank games that you refer to, there is actually good coordination and player understanding of their cooldowns and spells (e.g. dispells / shatters etc). That means that if the team is good its easier to kill a mage because SP defensive options are just plain walls and passive dps reduction as oppposed to lets say alter time which can be countered

@ziggs123

Жыл бұрын

@@sabotage7773 okay you a right, skillcap rank1 players are all wrong. Maybe you should apply to make the guides and teach them some lessons

@sabotage7773

Жыл бұрын

@@ziggs123 no rank 1 player ever said this in the context of good team coordination. As I said, if you play poorly against a mage it has a lot of crazy utility but if you exercise skills well he is a lot squishier. It’s just pure facts and you don’t have to have 3000 cr to see that

Mage is the tankiest lmao? over warlock? Now thats rich! lmao

@Lachofig

Жыл бұрын

they are way tankier lol. warlock ports and is a sitting potato, mages never stop moving and so dmg while moving.

@lostheboss7938

Жыл бұрын

@@Lachofig Idk man I dont think its simply true. a hunter can 100-0 a mage with double tap aimed shot.

@Lachofig

Жыл бұрын

@@lostheboss7938 lol. im guessing youre around 1600. your profile picture and that comment said enough

@ziggs123

Жыл бұрын

Mage is by far the tankiest caster when you have some brain. But 1600cr facetanking everything wonder why they die

@lostheboss7938

Жыл бұрын

​@@Lachofigyou are one to talk about profile pictures lmao

I have some corrections, Locks never die and mages die instant.

@fmalch1209

Жыл бұрын

Are you smoking some shit? Locks are paper.

@cawus88

Жыл бұрын

cause good mage need too much gametime and experience ... but any1 can play with warlocks that OP shields....just stand where u are and spam shits :D and shields :D

Weird all the 1400 players keep telling me how OP rets are atm.

You should really adjust the price. 20 USD a month when most of the content for WoW is here on yt...Bring back the 5 USD sub and make it WoW only. I don't play the other games, so you can charge those players whatever it's worth but currently WoW arena content doesn't justify the cost for the entire package. That said, this video is great and so is the content as usual.

In lower ratings it’s also a good idea to Focus the one that has less Health 🤣

People dont even communicate, I mean what are they even thinking ?? Do they even plan to win the game or not ? if you do then the least you can do is say which is the kill target.

Its a hard ret life

There is no easy killing a Warlock right now

@fmalch1209

Жыл бұрын

Found the 1500 champion. Locks are paper.

@DankMemes-xq2xm

Жыл бұрын

@@fmalch1209 Double lock is terrifying though.

How about offering a $6.64/month trial that doesnt require you to pay there entire year to get that price? If you offered 3 months at the discounted price I would likely continue as a member paying full price but the way you tease the price makes me doubt your validity. Too bad.

me watching this as guardian druid. thinking.

DKs might be tanky against casters but not against melee… especially frost DK. You can’t just lump the two specs together. Unh has much better self healing but frost has almost nothing and melts against melee.

@obscenedougie7982

Жыл бұрын

Frost has more cc and defensives, they’re actually tankier but with less healing

@Psikick4

Жыл бұрын

It's so funny seeing this excuse from dks saying they're squishy vs physical... You realize most dps have a lot of their dmg as magic? Yeah, Frost isn't OP like unholy, but other than arms and ww there's no true physical counter to DKs.

@seejay6360

Жыл бұрын

@@Psikick4 Well I don't play DK I play Disc and WW sooooo there goes that narrative xD

@sametkucukcolak4157

Жыл бұрын

As an arms warrior, dks are easy peasy for me to kill :)

It would be great if someone could create a spreadsheet with all this information, so I can keep it open while playing solo shuffle.

You reasoning on hybrids being less killable because of their self-healing options is so flawed it's embarrassing. If an ele shaman spams healing surge (somehow not getting kicked lmfao) you will oom at about 220-250k healing. A warlock gets way more value from dark pact alone, an instant cast ability. Furthermore, they have soul leech which provides just as much healing as earth shield (When spec'd into stronger earth shield) with no need to re-cast it after 10 hits. Also, healthstone is another 100k+ instant heal, they have gate AND port, plus drain life which does LOADS of healing if need-be. It's actually so scuffed that it draws the question of whether or not Skill Capped is even playing this game anymore?!

I accidentally queued as rdruid instead of boomy, did not have a good time.

@leogon1548

Жыл бұрын

Healers in general are not having a good time unless you’re evoker but even then.

@Psikick4

Жыл бұрын

I'm a dps main and I have a great time healing in SS. My 2s healer partner tells me I'm crazy, but I really do enjoy it.

@leogon1548

Жыл бұрын

@@Psikick4 Its called being a masochist

thats all people do in solo is heal and stun its bs they really need to knock some of the healing down all pvp is like that in wow and has been for years it got old along time ago.

ok

Warrior is entirely unkillable. Litterally THE tankiest class of every single class. Except for a monk running away, but thats not 'tankiness'

Warlock squishy? 🤣