The Dutch Navy in WW2

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The Dutch Navy, with its long and glorious past, global commercial Empire and fleet in being, creator of the first multinational company, the VOC, was no longer a major player in WW1, nor in WW2, ranking just below the Spanish Navy. She counted five cruisers, four coastal defence ships, two training cruisers, five armoured gunboats and a modern sloop, 11 destroyers and 11 torpedo-boats, 30 submarines and a wide fleet of minelayers and minesweepers. This was still a far cry from the German Kriegsmarine, and more still, since the bulk of the navy was based in the East Indies (Java and Indonesia), the remnant and richest part of the Empire, facing an even more menacing Japanese Navy.
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  • @HiddenHistoryYT
    @HiddenHistoryYT21 күн бұрын

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  • @richardcleveland8549
    @richardcleveland854921 күн бұрын

    Terrible narration, almost robotic - some interesting information, but a lot of irrelevant photos and video.

  • @peterrees6488
    @peterrees648819 күн бұрын

    That flat monotonous robot voice was just too much for me to finish the video.

  • @dennisverhaaf2872
    @dennisverhaaf287221 күн бұрын

    You forget to mention the terrible twins the Flores and the Soemba both present at the coast of Italy and Normandie

  • @martijnm4905
    @martijnm490521 күн бұрын

    7:03 where does that weird translation come from? “onderzeeboot” simply is the Dutch word for submarine, nothing else!

  • @markjohnson8963

    @markjohnson8963

    21 күн бұрын

    The voice is so droning it's hard to listen to.

  • @MRYOUNG123451

    @MRYOUNG123451

    21 күн бұрын

    AI

  • @robertx8020

    @robertx8020

    18 күн бұрын

    Maybe he understood 'over zee boot' 🤣

  • @shad0wpk02

    @shad0wpk02

    10 күн бұрын

    Right? Onderzeeboot literally means under sea boat, aka, submarine. Nothing about home. Not sure where he got that from.

  • @kennethhanks6712
    @kennethhanks671221 күн бұрын

    The poor cruiser DeRuyter was so hampered in her design and equipment by stringent budget limitations (only seven 5.9" guns, limited AA, and no torpedoes) that she was no match for comparable ships in almost any other navy.

  • @robertx8020

    @robertx8020

    18 күн бұрын

    At least she looked good 😂

  • @Scar_tisseu-86

    @Scar_tisseu-86

    18 күн бұрын

    That's what you get, when you have poor leadership. But most info in this video is incorrect and incomplete. He let alot of info out. Don't forget who is nr 2 behind the us, in sinking tonnage Japanese vessels. And it saddens me that most of the time the dutch terrible twins hnlms flores and hnlms soemba get ghosted. They got the nickname for a reason, and managed to fire 900 shots devided over 3 guns in 4 hours. And although he was correct aboute queen wilhelmina, but she didn't want to leave the country, it was under force of military command that she sailed for the uk. While the political leader ship was long gone before the germans even crossed the border. And then I'm not even talking about the royal dutch marines at maasbruggen, and the national reserve at the kazematten at the afsluitdijk. And how the dutch ground based aa and yes the fokker d21 stood up to the german luftwaffe. All subjects that never get talked about. It was all about weak and poor leadership, from the dutch parlement. They refused to invest in the military forces. That's why the netherlands fell so quickly. And karel doorman was a rear admiral under hig admiral conrad helfrig called a ship a day hellfrich. Now why is that?

  • @Keizerdraak

    @Keizerdraak

    10 күн бұрын

    ​@@Scar_tisseu-86all of the stuff you mention gets talked about plenty, for and by those who are interested. But the same can be said about other small countries that were fighting in WW2: all have their share of heroes, heroism and incredible (military) feats, just as the big fighting powers. The Netherlands would have fallen, just as the Dutch East Indies, even if all the plans undertaken during the second half of the 30s would have been realized. Against Germany and Japan we simply were no match. More importantly, our neutrality also meant our views on warfare and our doctrines were outdated or on the brink of becoming so; we lacked the knowledge gained by those fighting in WW1 (and other conflicts), and because of our neutrality we also had many issues gaining contracts for advanced items, parts and weapon systems other nations simply did not want to share. The Dutch ordered and paid for medium bombers from the Germans that never were delivered. Same thing for B-25s ordered to replace/prop up the bomber fleet in Indonesia; not delivered on time due to other nations paying more and being deemed more important by the US government. About those 3 battlecruisers: their design had been coming together since the late 20s. However, Dutch naval engineering and shipbuilding was not able to produce capital ships; the guns, armor, engines and certain design elements (layout of weapon systems, citadel design), as well as the (license production rights of) ammunition for the main guns all had to be gained from foreign sources- it was not surprising that none of the major powers were inclined to share their own knowledge to a neutral nation with such a strategic geographical position without strategic benefits for them. As it was, the battlecruisers as ordered in 1938, were not even completely finished in their design. The order was merely put up as to be able to show the Dutch Navy the government was serious in this regard, as not postpone the idea once more, and for propaganda purposes to other major powers- with the hope that ordering those ships might help finalise at least some parts of the deals needed to be able to really build them. As it is, I sincerely doubt any of the ships would have been realized before 1945, if at all. In fact, even the order for battlecruisers instead of full battleships already shows the Dutch Navy, government and industrial complex realized they would not be able to produce those even more intricate ships. With the downfall of battleships in Taranto, Pearl Harbour and the bombing of the 2 British BBs during the Battle of Singapore, it is highly doubtful the Dutch BCs would have had any significant impact on the war, except from becoming very inefficient, large coffins on the bottom of the sea. It is even worse, the Dutch East Indies Air Force had the foresight to invest in a large fleet of bombers, as to offset the lacking naval warfare capacity. However, whereas the bombers ordered in the early thirties were the most modern to be found anywhere on the planet, by 1938 they were already hopelessly outdated- and of almost zero value when the Japanese attacked in 41/42.

  • @geoffburrill9850
    @geoffburrill985021 күн бұрын

    The Dutch Navy was no match for the Japanese Navy, not just in numbers. Don't know how the Dutch expected to police an empire so far from home with such a small fleet, especially with the large Japanese navy near by.

  • @robertx8020

    @robertx8020

    18 күн бұрын

    They did not expect to fight the Japanese..and when you know how small The Netherlands is, there was no way a large navy was an option!

  • @FifingFossil

    @FifingFossil

    6 күн бұрын

    I suspect that 30 submarines and big ammount of minelayers can give some clue how they wanted to defend

  • @mplate1792
    @mplate179217 күн бұрын

    Aprox 11:32 ...." Singapore fell to the Japanese", the footage was of German fighter aircraft.

  • @NTSCuser
    @NTSCuser5 күн бұрын

    Thank you. As a Hearts of Iron IV player who knows nothing about the Dutch Navy I found this guide very useful.👍

  • @HiddenHistoryYT

    @HiddenHistoryYT

    4 күн бұрын

    Haha good to hear! Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)

  • @painfulorwhat8872
    @painfulorwhat887218 күн бұрын

    The commentary is really interesting but the whole story is confused by some irrelevant video with no link to the Dutch navy.

  • @davidjames879

    @davidjames879

    17 күн бұрын

    11:39 - That's the Graf Spee on fire after scuttling off Montevideo

  • @RaymonBrouwer
    @RaymonBrouwer5 күн бұрын

    Thanks for this great histroy lesson :)

  • @HiddenHistoryYT

    @HiddenHistoryYT

    4 күн бұрын

    Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)

  • @wojciechmikosz407
    @wojciechmikosz4079 күн бұрын

    De Ruyter was a beauty❤.

  • @HiddenHistoryYT

    @HiddenHistoryYT

    6 күн бұрын

    Appreciate you watching and have a great weekend :)

  • @zillsburyy1
    @zillsburyy121 күн бұрын

    dutch navy is no joke

  • @olddiver

    @olddiver

    10 күн бұрын

    Actually it always has been since the late 1700’s. Too few, poorly designed and poorly led. Doorman being in charge was a death sentence to all under his command…. Including American ships. Battle of Java Sea should never had happened… allied ships should have been dispersed and more judiciously used.

  • @rmyikzelf5604

    @rmyikzelf5604

    Күн бұрын

    The Dutch navy never was very impressive in size. The Dutch merchant fleet however...

  • @patrickpul1792

    @patrickpul1792

    2 сағат бұрын

    People say this and that but don’t realize that the Dutch country it self is one of the smallest countries in the world but still got the biggest company in the world and don’t forget , they battled for 80 years against France and to make it even better those guys dit it also against England the wordt doesn’t know how much the world got to Thank about a tiny small nation that putted THEMSELF on the map learn the history it’s David against everyone.

  • @nielsmethorst9465
    @nielsmethorst94657 күн бұрын

    O stands for Onderzeeboot which literly meand underwater boat, or submarine

  • @HiddenHistoryYT

    @HiddenHistoryYT

    6 күн бұрын

    Appreciate you watching and have a great weekend :)

  • @user-qf8ro9uj1y
    @user-qf8ro9uj1y18 күн бұрын

    i BLOODY HATE COMPUTER GENERRATED VOICES

  • @nathanshoaf6833

    @nathanshoaf6833

    18 күн бұрын

    same

  • @VoicesofWW2YT
    @VoicesofWW2YT10 күн бұрын

    great country

  • @JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe
    @JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe10 күн бұрын

    A match for IJN Torpedoes ? Capital ships do not always face off aganist each other.

  • @harryvandenakker4463
    @harryvandenakker446320 күн бұрын

    The reason why the netherlands surrendered to the germans, was that the germans committed a absolute waarcrime when they bombed rotterdam.This was no militairy target, and they only did it to cause many civilian casualties .Only then did the dutch surrender, knowing that the germans would go on with these horrible acts of cruelty. The dutch army although poorly armed, fought very brave and did achieve lots of casualties among the german invaders!!!!

  • @mikeholland1031

    @mikeholland1031

    17 күн бұрын

    Both sides did that. They'll always claim that there was some military target there but we all know.

  • @doctorandusB

    @doctorandusB

    14 күн бұрын

    Indeed. And not to forget The Netherlands were attacked without a declaration of war by the Germans which is also a grave violation of the Convention of Geneva (so a warcrime). When the Japanese did the same thing to the Americans at Pearl Harbour The US was furiuous but fortunate to be strong enough to be able to get a revenge.

  • @mikeholland1031

    @mikeholland1031

    14 күн бұрын

    @@doctorandusB normal for them. the US was the only country they actually declared war on.

  • @MikeHart84

    @MikeHart84

    10 күн бұрын

    The Germans couldn’t win on the ground in Rotterdam because it’s the home of the Dutch navy seals ( Korps mariniers ) That’s why they decided to bomb Rotterdam from the sky . 😢

  • @ACF1901

    @ACF1901

    7 күн бұрын

    Britain and the dutch destroyed Rotterdam to prevent the Germans from using it as a base, then they rewrote history.

  • @HiddenHistoryGaming
    @HiddenHistoryGaming15 күн бұрын

    lets go!

  • @anonymusum
    @anonymusum6 күн бұрын

    I can´t understand the choice of vids. I mean, Nelson, Ark Royal and the other British capital ships were not involved in the battle scenarios of the ABDA at all.

  • @chandrachurniyogi8394
    @chandrachurniyogi83946 күн бұрын

    for some reasons the Dutch navy has always been on the back foot, probably more confused than Hitler & Mussolini combined . . . the same Dutch navy back in the 1840s - 1890s was a tour-de-force not to be underestimated . . . by 1940s the Royal Netherlands Navy was literally unrecognizable, no longer what it used to be once . . . a figment of it's former self . . .

  • @HiddenHistoryYT

    @HiddenHistoryYT

    6 күн бұрын

    Appreciate you watching and have a great weekend :)

  • @chandrachurniyogi8394

    @chandrachurniyogi8394

    6 күн бұрын

    @@HiddenHistoryYT u have a great weekend as well

  • @mikeholland1031
    @mikeholland103117 күн бұрын

    Seemed to be mostly Canadians that got the germans out while the US and British armies were rushing to take Berlin.

  • @HiddenHistoryYT

    @HiddenHistoryYT

    4 күн бұрын

    Thanks for watching and have a great week :)

  • @rmyikzelf5604

    @rmyikzelf5604

    Күн бұрын

    Yes, although rather irrelevant to this video

  • @JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe
    @JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe10 күн бұрын

    Who came up with this ABDA arrangement? Dutch commander in overall command?

  • @oddballsok

    @oddballsok

    2 күн бұрын

    that was when both the yanks and the tommies BAILED OUT on the East Indies both on heavy equipment (b17s flown away) and on military and political will (both Brits and Yanks were NOT prepared to invest in defenses on Java Island...imagine the 100.000 british troops CAUGHT in Singapore..and what they COULD do in Java ?!?).Dutch were left to their own devices..MUCH LIKE IN 1940 !! That is the gratitude you get for declaring war on Japan BEFORE the yanks and brits ...for sending dutch planes over to defend malaya ..for sending out those dutch submarines (britain : NONE!) that have ACTUALLY WORKING TORPEDOS (idiot yanks)...and MacArthur sending not ONE marine to liberate a foothold on Java...

  • @dennismoore1924
    @dennismoore192421 күн бұрын

    This thing is LOADED with Royal Navy footage. Not worth watching.

  • @ALVAMA93
    @ALVAMA9310 күн бұрын

    Royal Netherlands Navy is the correct term...

  • @HiddenHistoryYT

    @HiddenHistoryYT

    4 күн бұрын

    Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)

  • @terencewinters2154
    @terencewinters215412 күн бұрын

    Dutch lost it all but were the only navy to get japanese compensation post war. Didnt or couldnt put up much of a fight. A dependent naval force like poles and french. Japan wanted to expand in indian ocean to link with germans in middle east . But never did due to U.S. keeping them occupied in austrailia.

  • @HiddenHistoryYT

    @HiddenHistoryYT

    6 күн бұрын

    Appreciate you watching and have a great weekend :)

  • @erikjohnsen5154
    @erikjohnsen515419 күн бұрын

    Bueller... Bueller... Bueller...

  • @gordonfrickers5592
    @gordonfrickers559218 күн бұрын

    Terrible narration ruining an interesting script. By 6.50 I'd had enough.

  • @comentedonakeyboard
    @comentedonakeyboard18 күн бұрын

    Leave it to the Germans to invade their WW I unsinkable blokade runner.

  • @TRHARTAmericanArtist
    @TRHARTAmericanArtist20 күн бұрын

    Don't forget to commemorate the men killed and wounded on the USS LIBERTY attacked by Israel June 8, 1967 in a deliberate attack by fighter jets and torpedo boats. The Gallant Liberty refused to die. Thanks HH for all your hard work.

  • @cathybrind2381

    @cathybrind2381

    15 күн бұрын

    What's that got to do with it? Although I do agree that it was scandalous how they got away with attacking a US ship no matter what intelligence it might be collecting. Wouldn't dare do that again?

  • @TRHARTAmericanArtist

    @TRHARTAmericanArtist

    15 күн бұрын

    @@cathybrind2381 I posted on the anniversary of the attack so people would never forget.

  • @richardschoot6136

    @richardschoot6136

    8 күн бұрын

    Your last sentence disgusts me.

  • @TRHARTAmericanArtist

    @TRHARTAmericanArtist

    7 күн бұрын

    @@richardschoot6136 you disgust me...

  • @robertcameron2808
    @robertcameron280821 күн бұрын

    That navy was sent to the bottom by the mighty Japanese navy.

  • @MangoTroubles-007

    @MangoTroubles-007

    21 күн бұрын

    And Indonesian pirates stole the steel and metal from and desecrated all those Dutch ships sunk that are war graves

  • @None-zc5vg

    @None-zc5vg

    19 күн бұрын

    ("...were war graves...")

  • @DerekChristopherNordbye-go6oo
    @DerekChristopherNordbye-go6oo7 күн бұрын

    Those Royal Dutch sailors, man for man, in my opinion, are the best in the world!! Nothing against my fellow American sailors.

  • @HiddenHistoryYT

    @HiddenHistoryYT

    6 күн бұрын

    Appreciate you watching and have a great weekend :)

  • @SeattlePioneer
    @SeattlePioneer21 күн бұрын

    The Dutch were completely unable to defend their colonies or even their home country. What LOSERS! After WWII, liberal American policy was to accept the Marxist condemnation of "colonialism, and this resulted in more than a hundred "independent" countries, of which few can defend themselves against neighboring predators. That has left the American World Empire and the US Navy as the DeFacto policemen of the world, a job at which the United States is overextended and can only be maintained ---sort of--- by enormous amounts of debt by the United States. It's not sustainable and the American World Empire is going to break up under that strain before too long.

  • @Xzeria01

    @Xzeria01

    21 күн бұрын

    My dude, The Dutch Empire was bigger than the whole US before the USA even existed..... Some of your first cities were built by Dutchmen. Why do you think New Amsterdam is called that?

  • @dirkhartman9572

    @dirkhartman9572

    21 күн бұрын

    What about Pearl harbour bro, You have to think further, do you really believe USA's biggest naval base was so unguarded that hundreds of planes can just fly in ans bomb with no warning, just like israel and Palestina now, Israël have the best high tech border defence force in the world, and yet some arabs with toyota hilux just drive hundreds of kilometers into cities.. i dont know but that complete war really pops up some question marks

  • @SeattlePioneer

    @SeattlePioneer

    21 күн бұрын

    @@Xzeria01 There certainly was an era of real Dutch power in the world, but not in the XXth century when Dutch power could not defend the home country let alone it's colonies The United States is suffering from acute imperial overstretch these days. It's a very common problem for imperial powers.

  • @SeattlePioneer

    @SeattlePioneer

    21 күн бұрын

    Yes, the United States was certainly caught with it's pants down 12/7/41!

  • @user-tp1bi6of3v

    @user-tp1bi6of3v

    20 күн бұрын

    @@SeattlePioneer The Chinese are becoming an imperial power as well, they too will suffer the same fate, as they have stuck their noses in Africa, south Central Asia and have plans of going into Mexico (if not there already) and South and Central America (just look at the "fishing fleet" near the Galapago Islands).

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