The dreaded Omega 1000 family...! 😖
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Today we have James' old Omega Automatic with the much maligned Omega 1000 family inside it. The launch of the 1000 family was Omega's first entry into high-beat movements and was marked by a lot of bad press and some birthing issues. This specific caliber is 1020 and as we will discuss, it's really not a bad movement at all.
Join Stian for a full service and repair of this very cool 70s watch as we take a few detours as always, including why Arnold Schwarzenegger was rejected by a watchmaking school!
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My dear father just turned 81 this past December, and he still cherishes this very same Omega with a greenish dial in his modest collection. It was originally purchased from a family-owned jewelry store in Pasadena, CA circa late 1973. Some of his other watches date back to the early to mid' 1960's. Also, as a matter of fact, he and I watched this video together yesterday evening, and it brought on a serene, reminiscing smile on his face. Thank you Stian. 😇
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Very nice to hear, thanks for sharing :)
The dial has the same color as every stove and fridge I had in the 1970s, so I would guess it's from late 60's or 70s.
@MrSloika
5 ай бұрын
When I was in grade school in the 70s my parents bought me my first big-boy watch. It was an Elgin with a dial that was almost identical to this one...sunburst brown. Yup, this is definitely from the disco era.
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Right on! This one is from 1974 but I'm sure they made it a bit before that also
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Disco era, baby! 🕺
@_sam_2284
5 ай бұрын
I bought myself a brand new vostok with a sunburst brown sandwich dial that gives of the same energy
The green is a reaction to the copper that is alloy with the gold, the moisture in our skin, and the oils reacts with this copper creating corrosion much like you see on copper roofing or downspouts
The green/blue color (verdigris) is a copper salt from reactions to moisture and acids (water can be an acid). Copper in the watch can be either the brass (if base metal) or the copper plating (over stainless) before gold plating. Copper is often used as a plating material in between other metals because of its ability to adhere well. That’s why you may see it under gold, chrome, nickel, etc. before you get to steel. Brass already has copper, so you usually don’t need the additional layer. Sorry for the blabbering. I worked in the decorative lighting industry for far too long and have seen lots of plating and verdigris patinas! 😅
@benkirkland5354
5 ай бұрын
And all it takes is the tiniest of micro scratches for the copper to be exposed. So areas around the bezel, the crown tube, the lug holes, threads, or any place that has some friction and has the potential to hide moisture may have some oxidation.
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for your elaborate explanation, Ben, very much appreciated! 👍
Green gue is sweat mixed with some kind of copper in the gold plating. Im assuming it's just plating and has some copper zinc tin mix
Something very special about these seventies clocks. Some of the closest to chocolate confectionery..
I have a few nos crystals for these . I got rid of all my 1001 watches. Have a lot of parts and parts mov. I still have 1012&1022 that I’m getting rid of. Sticking to 550 series, 260,300! The metal is so thin on these and as you noted the star wheel tend to blow up and plastic teeth of date wheel break. Finding metal ones is challenging. I do love your techniques & explanations
@VintageWatchServices
2 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot, Richard! If you still have a lot of 10xx parts you want to get rid of, I could be interested in buying some. You can send me a mail to info@vintagewatchservices.eu if so :)
I love that watch, everything about it, thanks Stian, as always, hope you get over the watch makers against body builders thing 😂, just kidding, we love you.
Definitely getting a 70s vibe here. Would certainly match with sideburns a leisure suit and faux gold medallion with some beads crochette and crystals tossed in.
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
I remember a photo of my uncle from the 70's in one of those white suits with the lapels on the outside and a gold necklace!
35:34 ... and not to forget the strength of the lungs a watchmaker has, because in order to pressure test a watch he has to suck out all the air out of a glass bottle to create a vacuum. That's the reason why Reinhold Messner once was rejected to be a watchmaker, and became a mountain climber instead, because his lungs have been too weak for that. He might be able to get to the top of Mount Everest without the help of a oxygen bottle, but he cannot create a vacuum for the pressure test of a watch. But, I guess, you already know about that. 😊
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
😂👍
Stian! Stian! I finished my first watch service/fix yesterday! It was the Franken issue I asked about recently where the hands just started spinning freely 30 minutes after it arrived. I decided 'What the heck, might as well give it a whirl," Turns out it was filthy inside and I noticed the pallet cock screw was loose, so that's probably why the hands spun out until the power was gone. After cleaning and lubrication, and reassembly, it started right up. Yes!! Madonna has a song that describes my elation. Seriously tho, I totally learned so much watching your videos, some multiple times. Thanks forever man!
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
That's very cool to hear, congrats! 💪🥳
Always look forward to the slo mo.....great job again!! 1970s vintage I'd guess too....
Handsome, the watch I mean! 70s, but I’ve seen them late 60s as well. A jumper is like a cardigan, but without buttons up the front🤣. I picked up some tips here, ta!
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Classic 😎
Very nice watch Omega are wonderful watches.
Great craftmanship and great video. I think the history behind the Omega 1000-series calibers is interesting.
Reminds me of an old tube television set
I own this watch with the silver dial. Looks great on wrist. It's also the flattest watch I've ever had on wrist. Flat like paper.
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Very nice!
"Who's a good movement?... who's a good movement???" LMAO!!! Movement, stay! LOL!!! (plus many many jokes, in... high beat!) Happy new year Stian, keep up the fun part!
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
😁 Happy New Year to you also, Stavros :)
The 1010 & 1020 that followed are pretty different movements. Not Omega's best, but very good, thin, & featuring a very convenient quick-set for the day & date. I think the justifiable avoidance of the 1000 scares people off the 1010/1020. Those 1010-&-up vintage pieces can be a good buy, with some cool designs, including some integrated bracelets.
@eurovnik
5 ай бұрын
Agreed. 1020 = spectacular value.
I just got an omega 1022 in the mail today. The videos don’t do justice just how small the parts are in these things. Crazy tiny. I thought I’d be able to pull it apart no problem before it got here. I still think I can. But I’m not sure I can do it without breaking things. Bull definitely met china today.
Very cool watch.great job.😊
Another great video, thank you for sharing Stian!
Well done sir glad I found your channel just love watching a master work great job on the watch
Arnold Schwarzenegger was rejected from the watchmaking school ! 😂😂😂😂 Great watch and movement ! Always surprised about the plastic parts as Seiko there’s surely an economic reason ! Nice finish result and nice vintage watch ! Happy New Year Stian all the best for 2024 !! 🥂🎉
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Thanks, Alain, and a Happy New Year to you also :)
@alanmckinnon6791
5 ай бұрын
The plastic parts are usually there or their self-lubricating properties, or because they are "bendy" and need to be much more elastic than any metal.It's not really economic as the othe 97 metal parts still have to be made
Good job! Beautiful watch!
In jewelry, the chaton is the system that retains the gem stone.
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Thanks, great to know!
WOW! Your Work is Pure magic! Listening, and watching is so very Calming... And Relaxing.. Cheers. :)
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Thanks! 😊👍
Thank you for another gorgeous video, dear Stian: 👍👌👏. Ach, the 70s ... Where to begin? Growing up as a teenager, most things were brown and gold. The music was tedious dinosaurs first (Genesis, Pink Floyd, Yes, ELP and more elongated crap), then disco, and to crown it all: Punk. What a 🤪 🤮💩time! Also, more and more things you bought could not be repaired because you could not open them up. With hindsight the 70s might look better as more and more obnoxious stuff was to follow, but almost anything from the 50s or 60s is more beautiful and aesthetically pleasing; just think of cars, watches, furniture, art ...
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
The 70s were great in a lot of ways, although I was just a bit too young to really know at the time... But I do remember my grandmother's brown, orange and gold living room 😂
@5:56 *"Who's a good movement. Who's a good movement"* good boy!
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
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Lovely watch … and that dial! Thanks.
The Green gunk = Verdi Gris, so at some stage the watch was owned by a Copper !. 😁
Uninformed guess: 1972. Pity, that Omega stopped producing their own movements after this series. And quite remarkable to see the impact of "bad press" even on watch manufacturers. Lovely and informative video, as usual. Thank You, Stian.
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Thanks, Jochen! And close guess, it's from 1974 :)
Good restoration. Nice timepiece
Your voice soothes me
Very interesting narrative.
Amazingly excellent filming. You are so talented!
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Thank you very much! 😊
Tack!
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Takk skal du ha, Lennart!
Bow Wow Wow Wow. Very interesting . I will never own a day- date watch, when I cannot remember the day of the week I will be past caring about my watches.
Excellent my friend can’t wait for the next.
Hello, and a happy new year! I have a 1021 and it is a chronometer !+-6 sec per day ! Now when I herd this black secret about Schwarzeneger I understood why he was Governor and actor ! :) :)
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
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Arnold is one of my favorite actors) I didn't know that he also had a craving for watch repair!!! This is a pleasant discovery for me! ))) If I ever see him, I will say - I wanted to look like you, I also pumped iron, but could not achieve results, but for that we have common hobbies! 🤝⌚😊 It is possible that Arnie was not accepted to watchmaking school because his hands usually shake after training. ) The more I see plastic parts in Swiss watch mechanisms , the less I have complaints about the developers of Seiko and Orient mechanisms , which also have similar plastic elements. 😌
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
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Nice Stian! Lovely movement and great tips!
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Thanks Dayton and I see your channel is growing nicely! 💪
@IShootWatches
5 ай бұрын
@@VintageWatchServices Thanks Stian!
oh my what a beautiful watch love the dial in this
Hello Theon, happy new year to you all. The green "stuff" is usually oxydation with copper,couldnt see the omega case being copper, maybe a certain amount of copper in the alloy when the case was cast. I always enjoy your videos/commentry, and this time the dogs as well. Stay well.❤😂 Mike.
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Hello Mike, Happy New Year to you also! Stian 😉
Beautiful job, Stian. It looks MUCH better after service than it did before! There seemed to be a lot of small, "fiddly bits", as the Brits say.
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Thanks, Frank! Yes, this movement isn't the best to work on, unfortunately...
1972 AD! And, I was pleasantly surprised by your "Les Paul®" guitar reference. If I may suggest, a sunburst finish of that tone on a guitar, I have seen referenced as "Tobacco Sunburst" in some cases. Keep up the good work, please.
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Close! This one is from 1974 but I'm sure it was made in the years just before that also. And Tobacco Sunburst sounds spot on 👍
Nice different movement than the basic fellas.....
I have my dad's old TV case Constellation with 1001 movement. He destroyed it by continuing to wear it once the acrylic cracked. Water got in, the silver dial turned green and the case back screws are rusted in place. What a waste of a really nice watch.
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
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I just turn on and immediately hear, 'The Canon Pinion Killer.' Heavens! Oh Mein Gott! We need that dramatic music - dun-dun daaahhhh ... Help, run for the hills. Is the CPK still at large Stian? Who's going to protect us? I know, those munificent and chivalrous Watchmakers - the veritable men (and women) of heavy metal on their way to the Watchmakers' convention; diverting from your voluminous French Champagne fueled festival of debauchery to go forth on an altruistic and quixotic slaying of the vile terrible CPK. And think, all to protect the great hoards of unappreciative entitled plebs wearing low cost quartz watches. You guys are in my awe....
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
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I love the looks of that style watch
Awesome
It has the kind of case shape that was introduced in the early 1970s, so I’ll go for 1973. Green gunk is usually a copper salt… Tiny little screws make the movement feel fragile…must have been designed by Boeing 😚. They didn’t take into account how big and strong watchmakers are 😉😂 Very nicely done as always Stian 👍
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Pretty much spot on! This one is from 1974 but they surely made it in the years just before that also. Nice Boeing reference 😁
Stian I can’t believe that you needed cosmetic assistance to get into the movie’s the management must have been laughing when you actually looked 30 and said “ I’II be back “. What no reports of trouble in paradise ! .
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
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Nice! I look forward to seeing / hearing more about George Daniel's escapement that Omega adopted. I met him once (at a Worshipful Company of Clockmakers dinner), and I have had the pleasure of chatting with Roger Smith who now has George's Workshop on the Isle of Man and produces his own beautiful hand made watches.
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Wow, very cool! I hope to get my hands on a co-axial in the not too distant future.
@gori277
5 ай бұрын
@@VintageWatchServicesA shame that I already had my De Ville GMT 4533.40.00 serviced less than a year ago as I’d love to have you service one of my watches despite the distance.
With that color of dial I would say early 1970s. 1971-3 or so.
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Great guess! This one is from 1974 but I'm sure they made it in the years before that also.
Yes
1975 VINTAGE,,,,,,,,GREAT VIDEO
@GrandpasPlace
5 ай бұрын
Beat me to it, I just dropped on off at the watch shop that is just like this one and it is a 1975.
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Right on! This one is from 1974 but I'm sure they made it in the few years before and after that also
+1 on the Les Paul burst vibe! 🔥😎
The cased must be brass underneath the gold. It corrodes and the green residue is called verdigris. Of course you know that. You only ask, so folks add comments for the algorithm 🙂.
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
My question was actually genuine, as this case is made of steel. Base metal cases were used by cheaper brands in cheaper watches, never by Omega. I know the verdigris comes from copper but didn't know where that copper would come from in a case like this. Another commenter with a background in decorative lighting and he said the makers would sometimes use brass plating under the gold plating, which would explain the verdigris.
My TV-screen Constellation is from '72. I'm surprised; this 74 model looks older actually. I was in awe of the design back then. Not so much now. Omegas prices these days seem a bit inflated IMO. Especially compared to their sister company Certina.
Beautiful watch. I just bought a seiko that is similar in shape and size.
Really nice inaugural video for the new year, Stian. Very interesting movement. Quite a contrast to the 500 series. There's a three wheel train from the crown wheel to the ratchet wheel, which seems a bit overdone. Is that to ease the winding force due to the heavy tensile strength of the mainspring?
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
It's really a design choice, given that there isn't really space for a larger crown wheel. But the movement does wind quite smoothly, indeed.
Greetings from the 70's !
Copper oxidation is the reason for green gunk
In the seventies, Omega was advertised for Nasa and it goes to the Moon; it was expensive, only business people could afford the amount to buy it. The owners they don't know how to use it neither technitians, to repair it! That's just one opinion that I have in my memory!
After 10 minutes I'm still laughing ! I hope that will be the joke of the year !
Takk for video, har akkurat skrudd på en Tudor 2414, ikke så stor den heller :)
I still wonder why you don't power down and take the balance kuk out first. Sure some works wheel will fall out but, it rained men, it can reign working bois too.
14:00 green comes from copper most likely
Lenny Beige's day-to-day watch? I'd say 1970 and I don't really have good vibes from the designs of that period. The "purest green" comes from Sir Percy in "Blackadder" (the second). ps Dogs featured in Blackadder (the first) episode: "The Queen of Spain's Beard" where Edmund is attacked by a pack of dogs,so be careful out there. pps "Agayen pleece".
Just started to watch the service. You asked how old it is, I will guess early 70s. My Tissot tissonic tuning fork and a few other of my watches from that era have that distinct 1970s square shape. Have you serviced any of the tuning fork watches on your channel before? The sweep of the second hand on a 300 or higher vibrations per second watch is something magical, espeically when you think it was a 60s product.
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Never did a tuning fork watch, no :)
@user-uz1yv2oc9v
5 ай бұрын
Would you like to have a go at one? I have several, the tissonic needs a new date wheel, might even have the aftermarket replacement here too @@VintageWatchServices
I’d say the watch is from 1973-1974. The green color in the gunk probably comes from PVC in the crystal breaking down. PVC slips were popular in coin collecting for many years, until it was realized that the PVC was breaking down, leaving a green residue on the coins, which cannot be cleaned off.
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Great guess! It's from 1974 👍
I go to the gym to get strong like watchmaker 😃
Buenas tardes Stean, he visto todo el video del OMEGA serie 1000, para desmontar el cañón de minutos es mejor introducir por la parte inferior un pasador de 0,4 m/ m o un engrasador que tengas mal, se le da un pequeño golpe y sale enseguida es mucho más correcto, me gusta mucho la lavadora ELMA con esta máquina tienes medio reloj reparado, un saludo desde Barcelona ESPAÑA.
From the plastic I'm going to say it's from the mid to late 70s early 80s. 🤔
The green color is verdigris ,copper corrosion
Late 60s early 1970s because my dad had a constellation from 1971 of the same case.
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Right on! This one is from 1974 but I'm sure they made it a bit before that also
Tobacco Burst
Anyone else notice the jar he puts in the ultrasonic cleaner is not the same jar he puts the parts in? The jar lid he puts the lays in days ELMA RED 1:9 and the one he puts in the ultra sonic says ELMA 1 TO 9?
I have an Omega shaped like that with a beautiful purple dial. It’s actually a Seamaster. It’s at my watchmaker’s now being serviced (a little past due). I typically bring it in every 4-5 years… is there a timeframe in which you should have them serviced?
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Every 4-5 years is perfect 👍
Green is copper compounds from salts in sweat.
I like your channel....By the way are you scandinavian?
@VintageWatchServices
4 ай бұрын
Yep, I'm Norwegian
@user-ru3lw5lb3l
4 ай бұрын
@@VintageWatchServices Long time ago I worked with Norwegians on cruise ship...good people👍
When servicing a vintage watch (something where keeping original parts doesn't matter) Are any of the parts considered wear and tear items and should be replaced regardless if the part is broken or not (ie. Main spring and barrel) to help maintain longevity of the watch?
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
You'll have to replace or repair parts which are worn, indeed. The good thing about vintage watches is that they were made with much better materials than today's watches, meaning that they last decades longer.
General question please..watched an early video on a Zenith 2562 Surf. The setting wheel/intermediate wheel at the end of the keyless works has a bevel to one side...is the orientation of the wheels bevel up or down when in place...thanks
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
In most cases the bevel should be down, but for instance on the ETA 2824 it's actually up. If in doubt, put it down.
@darrylmcmahon6604
5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the clarification
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
@@darrylmcmahon6604👍
Happy New Year 2024! How hard would it be to find the balance wheel spring for a Cortébert CAL451 (AS1250) movement? Dad’s watch’s balance wheel adjustment is completely at Retard or (-) most likely due to myself having it destroyed when I was a kid… I’ve sourc3d the main spring which was replaced and the watch is running like new, albeit, with the adjustment completely at Retard.
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Happy New Year to you also :) You'd need to find a balance complete, as finding only the hairspring is very difficult and would also require you to vibrate it to the balance.
@rbruce63
5 ай бұрын
@@VintageWatchServices Indeed! I should have pursued the trade as watchmaker instead of watchwrecker as a kid! There’s an AS1250 on eBay but they’re asking good money for it! I guess I’ll let it go!
Conan the "Tweezer Geezer"?
1976? I'd guess copper in the gold alloy used in the case?
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Close, 1974! Apparently there might be brass plating underneath the gold plating, which might be the source of the verdigris
hi 1972 lol look nice
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Good guess! This one is from 1974 but they made it in the years before and after also 👍
ta taa😂😂😂😂
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1970's vintage?
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Right on! This one is from 1974 but I'm sure they made it a bit before and after that also
70s
Late 60s
1976
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Close! 1974 :)
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1970
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Close! This one is from 1974 but they certainly made the design in the years just before and after as well.
From 1970s
I'd say 1974.
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
Spot on!
1974
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
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I think it's from 1974
@VintageWatchServices
5 ай бұрын
You, sir, just won the internet! It is indeed from 1974 🍾🏆
@RalonsoF1
5 ай бұрын
@@VintageWatchServices Hehe..nice! Thank you! 😊👍👍