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In today's video I discuss the impacts and causes of a train collision between two freight services (GB Railfreight and Freightliner) on the 5th July 2022. We look at how and why it happened and the learning points established by the RAIB.
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  • @pdjaf
    @pdjafАй бұрын

    wake up honey, new jakeso train collision video out

  • @Jakeso

    @Jakeso

    Ай бұрын

    That made me chuckle, that’s a good one 😂

  • @pdjaf

    @pdjaf

    Ай бұрын

    @@Jakeso yay thanks for pin!

  • @bob-sb2zu

    @bob-sb2zu

    18 күн бұрын

    Single manning is asking for problems like this ,safety is a secondary consideration today .

  • @pdjaf

    @pdjaf

    18 күн бұрын

    @@bob-sb2zu wdym

  • @bobp6742
    @bobp6742Ай бұрын

    I would say it was due to the same reason the colwich accident happened back in 86, the driver was expecting D197 to go green as he approached it as it always had done before.

  • @simon11235
    @simon11235Ай бұрын

    Great video!

  • @rickycunningham6368
    @rickycunningham6368Ай бұрын

    Yay Jake was waiting for this! Looks epic, you've done a good job dude :) well worth the wait!

  • @jerryhayes9497
    @jerryhayes9497Ай бұрын

    Excellent video thanks 🎉🎉🎉

  • @Sam_Green____4114
    @Sam_Green____4114Ай бұрын

    26 days !! To clear this mess up and reopen the line !! beyond pathetic !

  • @Demun1649

    @Demun1649

    Ай бұрын

    You sound like an expert. Why not start your own company, and go for the contracts? You know. PROVE you can do better. I expect you know of the shallow gullies and outflows, the extremely boggy ground, and the fact that access ramps were miles away? Oh, silly me, you wouldn't have posted that if you hadn't.

  • @Sam_Green____4114

    @Sam_Green____4114

    Ай бұрын

    @@Demun1649 Better than you that's for sure !

  • @Demun1649

    @Demun1649

    Ай бұрын

    @@Sam_Green____4114 I hate that flag. Occupied us for 800 years, but we won in the end. BLOCKED.

  • @stevem-h3562

    @stevem-h3562

    Ай бұрын

    No great surprise where Network Rail are concerned. Their contingency planning is beyond laughable.

  • @Beatlefan67

    @Beatlefan67

    Ай бұрын

    After the worst peace-time crash in UK history (Harrow and Wealdstone) there were trains running - single line - within 24 hours.

  • @droge192
    @droge192Ай бұрын

    Good vid (aside a few very dodgy spellings!). For the Train Sim section, you need to turn off "Depth of Field", which is causing the blurring of anything that is not at the centre of the field of view.

  • @1258-Eckhart
    @1258-EckhartАй бұрын

    Dear RAIB, why is GBRf allowed to have a "fatigue management" policy? And then simply be asked to "review" this? GBRf should be required to scrap trying to "manage" fatigue, and instigate policies of "fatigue avoidance".

  • @straightpipediesel

    @straightpipediesel

    Ай бұрын

    It's like mistakes. It's unrealistic and counterproductive to try to eliminate all human mistakes, you must constantly be aware of the risk and manage them. If you wanted to eliminate fatigue, drivers would have 15 minute shifts with 3 day breaks in between. Fatigue is always present from the moment you start working, you must recognize and manage it.

  • @pinza0079
    @pinza0079Ай бұрын

    I guess a second man would have probably prevented this

  • @nounoufriend1442

    @nounoufriend1442

    Ай бұрын

    Drives assistant as many female drivers now in UK

  • @russiandrivers9986

    @russiandrivers9986

    Ай бұрын

    Maybe, but he might just assume the driver knows what he's doing

  • @glenjones6980
    @glenjones6980Ай бұрын

    Some might think the driver worked a long week but HGV drivers can and often do work 84 hours in six consecutive shifts without a rest day.

  • @nounoufriend1442

    @nounoufriend1442

    Ай бұрын

    Its more the shift pattern that causes fatigue , six straight days is hard but ok as you keep your sleep pattern

  • @Sam_Green____4114
    @Sam_Green____4114Ай бұрын

    They crashed because one train hit the back of the other train !!!! HARD !!!

  • @trainspotter446
    @trainspotter446Ай бұрын

    A couple of issues: it'ss not just GBrf that has to do a brake tes. it'ss all FOC's and TOCs'. Plus, you mentioned 4E11 being 66729 which yes that is correct, then you said later on in the video 4E11 was being hauled by 66739.

  • @nedseagoon5101

    @nedseagoon5101

    Ай бұрын

    Signed, Mr P Dantic.

  • @AndreA-ke2id
    @AndreA-ke2idАй бұрын

    Seems like complacency is the culprit here ?

  • @alistairkewish651
    @alistairkewish651Ай бұрын

    Not quite a head code but a classification of the type of train, according to what materials it is carrying ..each derives from a class…

  • @nedseagoon5101

    @nedseagoon5101

    Ай бұрын

    No, he’s correct. It’s called a headcode. The first number denotes the speed of the train. 4 - 75mph. 6 - 60mph or less, down to 45mph.

  • @gwrydd
    @gwryddАй бұрын

    home from work get to chill and watch new upload

  • @Maverick_31
    @Maverick_31Ай бұрын

    What’s the minimum crew size for freight trains in the UK? Is it just a driver or is there a conductor as well?

  • @nedseagoon5101

    @nedseagoon5101

    Ай бұрын

    One. The driver.

  • @Maverick_31

    @Maverick_31

    Ай бұрын

    That’s a massive problem. There should always be a minimum of 2 crew members on a train.

  • @nounoufriend1442

    @nounoufriend1442

    Ай бұрын

    @@Maverick_31 Use of freight guard (conductor ) and second man (drivers assistant ) ended in the mid 80's in the UK

  • @Maverick_31

    @Maverick_31

    Ай бұрын

    @@nounoufriend1442 Jesus what moron allowed that lol. As a conductor for a freight carrier in Canada, it’s essential having a 2 person crew. There’s just too much at stake to leave that kind of responsibility to a single person.

  • @nedseagoon5101

    @nedseagoon5101

    Ай бұрын

    @@Maverick_31 £££ talks loudly!

  • @Trevorharris-tp7tm
    @Trevorharris-tp7tm13 күн бұрын

    😮trevor Harris

  • @XDFRailRoadCooler
    @XDFRailRoadCoolerАй бұрын

    Nice video game. Can I have ago please.

  • @Trainspottinkid
    @TrainspottinkidАй бұрын

    Hello good video

  • @arthurmatthews9321
    @arthurmatthews9321Ай бұрын

    A 12 hour night shift at the end of a 50 hour week is not only dangerous it’s illegal. We have a maximum 48 hour working week in this country.

  • @neiloflongbeck5705

    @neiloflongbeck5705

    Ай бұрын

    Unless the worker signs a Working Time Directive opt-out, and then they can work for more than 48 hours.

  • @lolzlolz102

    @lolzlolz102

    Ай бұрын

    Working Time Directive is averaged over 17 weeks (26 in some cases). Either way the hard limit for the company is max 60 hours per week or 72 hours if overtime included.

  • @PeterChapman-rg6gr

    @PeterChapman-rg6gr

    Ай бұрын

    Do we? Are you sure about that?

  • @DOCTORDROTT

    @DOCTORDROTT

    Ай бұрын

    not illegal. rail staff can work 11.5 hour shifts for a max of 12 consecutive shifts. With a priviso with permission to run over that in an emergency situation. You have to have a 12 hour off duty between shifts. Worked that for 35 years with no issues. " Hidden report " Train drivers may be "on duty " for 10 hours but actual driving can be as low as two hours . One roster where I was based, book on. take a train to the docks for unloading. two mile trip, wait four hours for unloading. Take empties to another yard 35 miles away. Taxi back to base. Book off.

  • @chris_3636

    @chris_3636

    Ай бұрын

    Two of the shifts were rest day work, which are optional as far as I'm aware, so the driver had more than a little responsibility for the fatigue element. Freight train drivers are on £60k+ a year, so how much is enough?.

  • @nigelkthomas9501
    @nigelkthomas9501Ай бұрын

    Just because a train rarely stops at a certain signal doesn’t mean it never will! The driver should’ve been paying more attention. His fault entirely. Very lucky he wasn’t injured or caused far more damage.

  • @22pcirish

    @22pcirish

    Ай бұрын

    I know this particular driver very well. Please delete your very wrong comments.

  • @nigelkthomas9501

    @nigelkthomas9501

    Ай бұрын

    @@22pcirish Why? I speak as I find. Any driver screwing up to this level is obviously not paying full attention. Imagine if this had happened on the ECML proper! He could’ve caused carnage; and he’d probably be doing time, if he survived!

  • @22pcirish

    @22pcirish

    Ай бұрын

    @@nigelkthomas9501 you couldn’t be more wrong.

  • @nigelkthomas9501

    @nigelkthomas9501

    Ай бұрын

    @@22pcirish That’s your opinion, and reluctantly I respect it. You could offer me the same curtesy, but doubt you will.

  • @22pcirish

    @22pcirish

    Ай бұрын

    @@nigelkthomas9501 What I know about this incident (which is rather more than is put into the RSSB report) I will keep to myself.

  • @njhtrains
    @njhtrainsАй бұрын

    speaking about 66729 in the vid, last October I caught it at Didcot Parkway, which was on the same day I caught 56301.

  • @retiree1033
    @retiree1033Ай бұрын

    Did the driver suffer any sanction for this? It would seem to be scapegoating if he did.

  • @leeowen4989

    @leeowen4989

    29 күн бұрын

    Why would it be scapegoating? Dude had 3 separate warnings that the line ahead wasn't clear and still drove a perfectly working train up the arse end of another....

  • @DOCTORDROTT
    @DOCTORDROTTАй бұрын

    I worked 12 hour shifts in the rail industry 11 days in a row, driving 300 miles a day, working as a rail engineer on call outs on wagons and locomotives. Drivers on £60,000.... engineers paid £36,000 a year

  • @robertbarnett9939

    @robertbarnett9939

    Ай бұрын

    So why didn't you get a job as a Train Driver then?

  • @BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne

    @BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne

    Ай бұрын

    £60,000? More like £100,000 for freight. I just can't understand why more people (like yourself) don't try to become a train driver instead of bemoaning what they earn.

  • @nounoufriend1442

    @nounoufriend1442

    Ай бұрын

    @@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne £100k you would have to work hell of a lot of rest days to earn than on freight

  • @gdwnet
    @gdwnetАй бұрын

    10:08 guarantee. Please fix the typo.

  • @max10sheets01
    @max10sheets01Ай бұрын

    When did the TPWS system get converted to Magnetic operation???? That must have been a huge project!

  • @masonsmainlineroblox

    @masonsmainlineroblox

    Ай бұрын

    started as magnetics

  • @Alan-ln3ls

    @Alan-ln3ls

    Ай бұрын

    TPWS is radio-based, while AWS is magnetic. Two different systems.

  • @masonsmainlineroblox

    @masonsmainlineroblox

    Ай бұрын

    @@Alan-ln3ls nope

  • @masonsmainlineroblox

    @masonsmainlineroblox

    Ай бұрын

    @@Alan-ln3ls it is two different systems, but is magnetic

  • @Alan-ln3ls

    @Alan-ln3ls

    Ай бұрын

    @@masonsmainlineroblox Yep. The TPWS grids transmit a radio signal (several different frequencies are used) which is detected by an aerial on the train. Nothing to do with permanent magnets or electromagnets - that's AWS.

  • @organisten
    @organistenАй бұрын

    For goodness sake, you do not say "both drivers were not injured", you say "neither driver WAS injured"!

  • @Midlandstransporthub

    @Midlandstransporthub

    Ай бұрын

    Both mean the same thing, stop being such a pedant

  • @droge192

    @droge192

    Ай бұрын

    You're picking up on that, and not the spelling of "garuntee" ? 😄

  • @organisten

    @organisten

    Ай бұрын

    @@Midlandstransporthub No they do not. Both do not mean the same thing. This does or that does! Which is another meaning to NEITHER means the same thing. Both drivers were not injured; only one of them was. This is different from NEITHER driver was injured. So no, they do NOT mean the same at all.

  • @user-zr5yj1od5q

    @user-zr5yj1od5q

    Ай бұрын

    @@organistenI quite agree,alas,grammar is not what it once was

  • @normanbridge8924
    @normanbridge8924Ай бұрын

    aah but did the train driver lose his job?

  • @DOCTORDROTT

    @DOCTORDROTT

    Ай бұрын

    no

  • @droge192

    @droge192

    Ай бұрын

    They'll never lose their job through accidents like this - unless their is a *willful* negligence or act. For example; drugs, alcohol, Taking a wee out of the door, with your bag in the DSD pedal, headphones with music on, etc, etc. The closest the driver would have come to deregistration as a train driver here, was not performing the running brake test. But his Union will have got him out of that one, on the fatigue litigation against GBrf. Those were some insane shifts. He should not have been permitted to work *both* of those rest days. I dare say he's learned his lesson and will be more cautious at *all* yellows, double yellows and flashing yellows!

  • @22pcirish

    @22pcirish

    Ай бұрын

    @@droge192I am an ASLEF member and you are talking absolute rubbish.

  • @nigelkthomas9501

    @nigelkthomas9501

    Ай бұрын

    @@22pcirish ASLEF: Absolutely Selfish Lazy Egotistical F*!

  • @nounoufriend1442

    @nounoufriend1442

    Ай бұрын

    @@droge192 Lack of a running brake test had no bearing on this incident , we had incident with coal train , no running brake test done first driver knew of no brakes was at cautionary signal (train had not been piped up ! ) No continuity test done as these trains run 24 hours under an enhanced brake test , train passed signal loco derailed on catch points

  • @trevorcheers9137
    @trevorcheers9137Ай бұрын

    Is this a lesson in english grammer or an explanation of a rail accident

  • @1258-Eckhart

    @1258-Eckhart

    Ай бұрын

    *grammar

  • @SprinterPlayz
    @SprinterPlayzАй бұрын

    0:42 that’s 66799

  • @Jakeso

    @Jakeso

    Ай бұрын

    I know. I sourced images from people who allowed me to use their images and none of them were the units in question however I didn’t think it really mattered at the end of the day.

  • @droge192

    @droge192

    Ай бұрын

    @@Jakeso - agreed. It was a great video!

  • @TheRedFloofball_Foxy
    @TheRedFloofball_FoxyАй бұрын

    spelling mistake at 5:10 “reopned”

  • @Battismore-Blue

    @Battismore-Blue

    Ай бұрын

    I bet your fun at parties

  • @droge192

    @droge192

    Ай бұрын

    and 'garuntee'. That was my favourite.

  • @droge192

    @droge192

    Ай бұрын

    @@Battismore-Blue *you're 😄

  • @user-ws9er6ww1y
    @user-ws9er6ww1yАй бұрын

    Jake, the content of videos like this are too important, and educational, rather than entertaining ...... they are too important to have a garbled voice=over. Whosevers voice that was, needs to admit they ain't a voice professional. Don't spoil such a good video, with well-researched content, by giving it an undecipherable (at times) commentary.

  • @beeble2003

    @beeble2003

    Ай бұрын

    Does reading the RAIB report count as "well-researched"? I mean, obviously, it's not badly researched, but when all the information in the video is contained in a single document, I don't think there's cause to praise the quality of research.

  • @SirReginaldBlomfield1234
    @SirReginaldBlomfield1234Ай бұрын

    The spelling in the captions is atrocious. 🙈

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