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What pisses me off is not the seasonal structure theyve obviously copied 4-5 years late from other prominent IPs. It's how half baked this looks on paper. Like holy shit, either commit to seasonal structure, balls to the wall, or dont at all. This just looks and reads so terrible. Its like some unnamed employees took bits of aeasonal systems from other games, threw them into a blender and presented to us whatever came out on the other side after they took a dump on it. Unless Ubisoft completelly reworks each season and how it plays, literally whats stopping me building Strikers every season. Nobody needs fresh start every 4 months, and this isnt anything new either. Its just rehash of stuff weve been doing since release. Like Seasons 2.0 isnt gonna be groundbreaking, now you just gotta do it on two characters. This is just half baked, in classic Ubisoft fashion, theyre too afraid to commit.

They introduced the expertise levels and now think they are a bad idea, who makes this stuff up😂😂 but yeah the Division 3 is gonna be sooo much better…. Yeah ok🥴🥴

@Ghost_Text

Ай бұрын

It all stems from two fundamental issues. 1.The loot is overfulfilled compared to Div 1. thus less hunting for unicorn pieces. 2. Ubi shelved Div 2 and sent Massive to work on licenseware after the Faye Lau manhunt. Hence you dont have a Destiny level of staff and content So youve got a skeleton crew scrounged together by the few that still believe in the concept but have an issue to address the player gap with all the newcomers

@b3stanman946

Ай бұрын

@@Ghost_Text I agree brother. I’m tired of being strung along in hopes for a game that feels close to the division 1. I don’t believe anything they say because their track record has spoken. We may not even see a division 3 as the Division 2 will continue to melt down especially when they change it all again in about 6-8 months😂😂

@mmmyeah7

Ай бұрын

Gave up playing this game about 5 months ago played from start the lack of legendary content and no more incursions etc this game gets boring af grinding the same missions or same legendaries for 5 years.

U gotta stop with the people don’t understand it stuff we absolutely understand it we don’t want it that’s all there is to it aiming at “new players” is a bad idea for this game this far in its life because it isolates veterans out and we are the ones that kept this game relevant in anyway most new players will play for a while and move on this game belongs to the vets and we want to be treated that way we don’t like our years of getting our characters just right for them to just take them away from the new content we don’t want it how is that not clear we understand stop saying we don’t we just don’t like it the end

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

But people don't. Read through the comments and see that not everyone does. If you fully understand then you don't need this breakdown video because you know. As a vet, I do not see how this isolotes us at all. It is giving us more to do in a different way. There are some drawbacks but not that much where I wouldn't give it a go before casting any judgement. We were all new players once, they have had a lot more and are expecting a lot more. These new players and returning players will help shape the future of the game and I think this is needed more than ever right now if the current base is just going to shit on anything they do. Just my opinion. Remember, you are one person. Your opinion matters but so do others. Stop assuming everyone gets things like you and just accept some people appreciate the breakdown. I don't make this content for the people that know everything, if you knew anything about me and my community you would understand.

@BiggBlak530

Ай бұрын

@@GCROCKif 500 new players come into the game tomorrow 480 of them will move on to a different game in less than 6 months but the people that have been on this game for half a decade like u and myself good sir have been here fairly consistently now I completely understand that some people are hype for this change some vets included but seemingly it’s 100 to 1 in favor of the opposing side thus why I say it should actually be an option for you to do either in real time it should be seasons as normal for those that want to use there main and the new set up for those that want to do seasonal characters not just the last 2 weeks but in real time

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

@@BiggBlak530 Just wrote a whole reply and it seems it got lost...lets go again... Appreciate your comment but your numbers are off. I saw one poll before the communication yesterday and it had it at 2 to 1. 2 people not wanting this, to 1 that isn't fussed or excited for it. So thats a 100 to 50 split. Now, since the communication I have seen a lot more of a positive response. And we need to remember none of us have lived it yet. In regards to the "vets". I have some more factual numbers. The last few months has seen the worse concurrent players for some time, its just been about double of what The Division 1 is and I can can only guess most of that has been the hardcore and new player base. Without new players it could be around the same numbers. Yes new players will come and go, vets also come and go and its only really the hardcore die hard fans that stick. I am in this sector of course. We just want the game to stay alive. 2 years ago we had the 18 month drought where there was nothing but season repeats. If this game didn't die then it sure as hell wont now. Im not going to change your opinion, I am not aiming to but thoughts are a lot more mixed than you think and once we actually get to see this new structure I imagine it will be taken quite positive. This is not just for new players, its for vets, its for the hardcore. Like with anything, people will like it and people will dislike it. The only numbers that are going to matter are those that we see once this goes out. Until then we don't really know. But again, we survived 18 months of nothing. We will survive this if anyone is thinking otherwise.

@BiggBlak530

Ай бұрын

@@GCROCK now that was definitely a good point about the drought but during the drought the format of the game wasn’t changed to the point that your work u put in was set aside for the main story we had no story at all true but we also understood that at that point it was supposed to be the end of the game and they had to go in the lab and work so stuff out for us but all good bro your “I wrote a whole reply” tone is a little hostile for someone that wants civil talks about this stuff like I said I understand people are hype about the change but people also hate the change or at least the idea I hope it’s fun for those that will play it

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

@@BiggBlak530 The "I wrote a whole reply" was not a tone. It was a fact that I wrote a whole reply and it disappeared. So I may not remember everything I put. Like why is that even getting questioned.... And I really can't see why people think the work you have put in is pointless. They point blank state any new content is for your main like DLC etc. This is just a seasonal revamp to give you more fun. Is there drawbacks? Yes. Do we know if they are worth the change? No because none of us have seen or experienced it yet. Games on this this model do very well. They want to try it. Support them with it. We are meant to be fans of the game. Supporting them doesn't mean you have to like everything, but give it a go and share your feedback once you have all the details. The data will show them all they need to know and if the playerbase increases and people stay on the game longer, I think that is the main aim.

You will play your game the way WE want you to play it, your opinion matters not. Why do they care how fast or slow I choose to progress through the season track? The whole “level playing field” 💩 only matters to PVP, the seasons are PVE content has nothing to do with anyone else’s level.

I think it’s trash! Everyone has to start a new character just to play the seasonal stuff and the last two weeks of the season you can play it on your regular character! New players might be excited but I see them losing a lot of veterans that play this game.

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

I am one veteran that is very excited to be given more to do.

@Halderic

Ай бұрын

"but I see them losing a lot of veterans that play this game" A lot? I doubt it. What's more likely is people like you will complain for a few weeks while it's fresh in your mind, then move on to something else to complain about, yet still play and try it out when it finally arrives.

I’m in my 40s. I used to buy the most expensive option of whatever blindly. I didn’t even purchase the season pass this go around. Not sure if seasonal characters is the move to keep a player like me involved and willing to spend blindly. I mean…. For the past 6 years I was just blindly until now. I feel like no return on investment. It is what it is

Well if they're separating people in PVP by either seasonal or main characters why can't they allow everyone to do the season whoever they want and separate those main characters from the seasonal ones? The Intermission sounds like something they threw in to try and please people so instead of people coming in at the beginning of a season and then leaving they'll wait until the end to come in.

I understand what they’re doing. There is no lack of clarity. I just don’t like the seasonal character model. I don’t want to grind the campaign repeatedly, even if it is accelerated.

As same as everyone to many hours grinding to get your gear up. Between work family and everything else that comes alone and to put 5 years plus with division 1 dont really want to start over when im happy with my character I've work hard to get

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

Good news is this character will still be alive and strong to keep the grind going. Not sure why this isn't clear. Why do you think its not? What is it that you are going to miss with the change?

@bryanhowyong

Ай бұрын

Yes alive for 2 weeks. Enjoy.

We know what it is and we still don't want it no matter how many videos you guys who are paid by them to promote it I wanna finish of my grind on my expertise!!

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

You obviously don't know much. Once you watch the video I was not paid to make and take all the information on board I will be happy to discuss it further with you. Spoiler alert, you are free to finish off your expertise as you are now, there is no change in this and it was never suggested there would be. In fact, the new set up will help do it faster 👍

The only issue I have is when they say that they wanted to start everyone on a level playing field basically. The problem is that they are blatantly catering to new players. Sorry but I’ve played Div 2 since day one and it should be my choice to run the seasons with a new character or the ones I already have. Ubisoft is forcing those of us with experienced characters to start with a new seasonal character. That is very wrong!

I think this 2.0 system is dumb. You can do a lot of things to make characters stronger without breaking your system. Adding new things and keeping them balanced with the current system is not out of this world. How you keep people feeling growth is by providing something that nudges the character forward but isn’t permanent. Destiny 2 has a mod system that adds more for the season and grants builds a whole new look but is a reset and new potential when the next season occurs. Making people go to scratch and redevelop is a lack of developer understanding on what makes the game an mmorpg/looter shooter. Having your watch reset with new perks or having certain sets have a certain bonus or addictive to it while the season is live allows for builds, grinding and fun to be something everyone can look forward to. I’ll try the first season and if I feel I have gained nothing on my primary I’ll be saying good bye to division. Also, when you say “we aren’t starting over. You aren’t losing everything.” That is a twisted version of the truth. If I have to create a NEW character at lvl to interact with content I am in fact RESTARTING. When I make a Hardcore character to run through the game I have infact RESTARTED. We are making new characters and starting fresh. That is what the post you just read said. Don’t try and make it sound as though we aren’t and it is just more progression. Progression is moving forward not pressing new character. Hope you’re having a good day and I’m sorry if the comment is too long, take care.

They are still being vague about some things. Like they talk about loot being shared, like is the loot gonna all be heroic/legendary quality because i know for a fact that im not keeping subpar loot for my main character (unless its a max PFE mod). Also they talk about exploring new builds, like are they changing build mechnics for the seasonal characters in some way? If not i can literally make different unique builds for my main, therefore they are not inspiring new builds, they are just making you make a similar build to the one you use on your main except it will be more underpowered due to the games RNG as well as the loot quality and level. They have yet to give us an example on these new modifiers at all, for all we know it could be the same ones we have, but they may feel different since you havent got an optimised build or they are just being revamped. Admittedly Master difficulty does sound nice and all but it doesnt specify how difficult, i can solo all the legendary strongholds (it does take time ) is this difficulty gonna be even harder? If so is it gonna be more explosive and medic spam from white tusk enemies but with more damage? will this difficulty even use the white tusk or will it be a legendary diff version of the mission respective faction. Also i do prefer to solo content, preferably at the highest difficulty i can handle. Them stating it will be four player orientated makes me feel its gonna have no scaling but a set of fixed enemy values which would force it to be for four players. For something thats a mission, not a raid or incursion i dont know if id like this especially if it has areas that may be unprogressable without four players, ie synchrised switches or puzzles etc. Also with the master difficulty, are they abondoning the legendary difficulty formula? Will the older climax missions also get this new masters difficulty too? TBH ill still try this seasons thing but i dont feel confident these seasonal characters will be rewarding at all, unless it plays differently like the decent character where you build up lots of power over the season. Still the rewards for the main character dont sound good at all, i dont care for patches or non legendary quality loot. Unless they offer some sorta permanent reward which buffs the main characters base stats even more or gives you brand new exclusive or unique abilities it seems pointless to bother hording more non godrolled gear. Personally i like being overpowered in this game, i grinded and still grind the hardest content and difficulty for unicorn loot and expertise, i like being able to directly fight hunters and rogue agents on even footing, to be able to brute force my way through white tusk defenses. I dont wanna be forced to start a new character which doesnt have a unique set of transferable rewards at the end and be underpowered through the whole process or wait for an intermission to play new content. On a separate note, aside from my little rant, how do we know the devs wont mess up the character selection menus etc. Its become common to expect new bugs each season, how do we know that when they code in a 5th character slot they dont inadvertently delete the main one, or accidentally wipe our main stash? Ive got more of a fear of the potential bugs that will ensue with Y6S2 than starting a seasonal character which has me playing with peasant loot.

@SuperSlankyLanky

Ай бұрын

They're really going to have to thread the needle with these modifiers. To weak, and there's no point in starting a new character for them. I can also see the potential to get stuck with 2, or 3 viable builds for three months because the content is balanced around them. Hope they get it right, but I don't have high hopes.

There is nothing unique about this specially that we will be doing the same grind on old missions same old activities yet they still keep saying its unique experience, i dont like seasonal character, what was the reason for expertise, if they presented this idea when WONY came out i will understand it but now no thanks if other like it good for them but its a pass for me 7k hours in this game was nice & worth it but for me its to move on.

My issue is the splitting of the community between seasonal characters and main characters. I loved being able to shepherd new players with my main, but now I can’t match with them.

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

Why cant you match with them? I think for the most part people will still be playing their mains especially those looking for help still as they will still have a ton to do.

@christopherdelrosario1854

Ай бұрын

@@GCROCK I guess I’m just saying that today if someone creates a new character outside of a hard-core character and they call for back up, I can help them but when it releases I can’t if they create a seasonal character. I guess you’re right that new main characters I can still help with. I guess I’ll just have to see how this all plays out.

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

For sure, I think these changes they are hoping more people stick around for longer so hopefully the increased player count across the whole season would help. Would be interesting to see how it does work out though so if you remember once you see how it plays out, do get back to me!

@SuperSlankyLanky

Ай бұрын

That's probably been my favorite thing to do lately. I like dropping the people under level 40 all my loot from the mission. They're always so happy to have it.

@Skitz470

Ай бұрын

@@GCROCK except from what ive heard the queues for seasonal and legacy are not the same. Thus it sounds like calling for backup/answering backup calls will not be linked. So yeah…wanting to help newbies via backup calls (unless said newbies start legacy character) wont happen.

Do you suppose that these seasonal characters are going to have a lore or story line element to them? Possibly with our main being considered rogue? Just a thought...

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

Potentially.. my thoughts are some spin off story that is not tied to the main so much. Maybe some filling in blanks. I think the main story progression will be left for the DLC and other future content.

We do understand it, we just don't want it.

@OpenWrldHeadHunter

Ай бұрын

No you don’t want it. I’m excited.

@xx-ek7zd

Ай бұрын

I don’t want this shit neither 😂

@OpenWrldHeadHunter

Ай бұрын

@@xx-ek7zd most of the community doesn’t but I keep seeing all these comments from people speaking for everyone and it’s kinda annoying. It’s like the community can’t fathom people who probably put more hours in the their main characters than they have excited to play the changes.

@nuclearvenom45

Ай бұрын

If you hate the idea, don’t play the fucking game

@zorro8027

Ай бұрын

@@nuclearvenom45 It’s this exact same mentality that ends up killing games. “If you don’t like it, then don’t play the game” Yes, that’s how it works. And since a majority of people are saying they’ll walk if seasonal characters become the new main form of seasonal content, I’m guessing the game will die if this comes to pass.

I 100% expected this. It still makes my main character which as had over 205 days put into it irrelevant apart from 2 weeks out of an 18 week season. Ill give it a look but im 99% certain ill be deleting game

Various treaties on their side presume that with your signal character, you’re gonna be free to go in and just grind whatever activity do you wanna grind the level up?

I've done my best to stay out of this conversation but here we go. I'm a veteran division gamer, with 4 agents in both games. I love making new characters and writing backstories for them. I have close to 100 agents ideas I'll never get to play, a bad habit from DMing D&D games lol. I see why people are upset with seasonal characters but I also see lots of people who in a way made a new agent each time they played survival or descent. Hell there's tons of folks who play hardcore characters and that's in its own way a seasonal cahracter. You start out level 1, no stash, no blue prints, no watch lvls and you grind to as high as you can get. The weird part I don't understand is every season people take there main agent and blow through the 100 levels on the pass in the first couple weeks. Then spend the rest of the time doing regular grinding and stuff. Well with the seasonal characters if you don't want to make one, its kind of the same thing only you do all your regular gaming with your main first 3 1/2 months then you'd just grind out the new stuff in the same couple weeks at the end instead. Now for the casual players like myself that puts a crunch on those that don't want a seasonal character and are then stuck with only 2 weeks to power through the pass. But like myself I don't always get through the 100 levels and end up collecting the exotics and named weapons and gear in the open world. Which ironically gives your main character something to do till the last two weeks. There's more I could go into but I'm sure I'm boring some folks and some have their minds made up already. All I'm saying is there's ways it can work. In the meantime I have set the backstory for my seasonal characters as new recruits my main agent has found and is training to help fight the Black Tusk, Hunters and possibly the rogues. My reasoning is current agents can either be agents for Keener or Hunters so we need fresh bodies so my agent is recruiting new agents to bolster the ranks with trustworthy agents.

I can’t wait to try the new seasons, I mean I’ve already cutdown the hours a month I play this game. So for me it’s something new to come back to . I will try it , if I don’t enjoy it ,I will just play other games while waiting for Brooklyn DLC or the Division 3

🫡Sup, Give it try respects my longtime presence in the game as a player to offer me an separate option. When I have no other alternative, that is a slap in the face. 5 years of Seasons building up this character and my relationship with it and the game is now thrown away. A New Season Day was like a 2 day Christmas. Running my 100 levels and immediately making builds with the new stuff me and my character just earned. Who did they talk to about these changes in the 5th year? Who said this was ok? Who said we were interested in this? There were all types of traditions many of us made around getting ready for a new Season. That's all gone for a new character thing I never asked for as a total replacement with what I was fine doing. 15 weeks! Why is that the way. I'm thinking no thank you. It's flat out unfair to all we have done in this D2 Community with these characters including the whole year the Devs abandoned us for the pandemic. We stayed and played with these characters. Not cool. It should be a separate option like Decent mode. Let us keep what we had.

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

I feel you on the new season day! I am going to miss that first week where I get to level 100 and I put together all these builds (to find out most of it is trash compared to the meta but it was fun anyway). I think the new format is going to give me more to do every week though and I would like to think a new season day will be far more rewarding and that then stretches across the whole season. We won't know until we see it but I remain optimistic.

I'm glad you are being positive about this. I am glad you're excited about it. I am glad you are approaching this to those who are not with a "wait, try it and see" attitude. I love this game, and I used to love the community, but I can't believe all of the negativity around something no one has even played yet. Ya, seasonal characters are a thing in other games, ya, seasonal characters have never been a part of this game before, but man, let's not completely write it off before we even try it. GC - YOU ROCK!

@gamerdudie22

Ай бұрын

And one more thing....why is it OK for all the "haters" to blindly be negative about this, but it's not OK for those of us who love this game to be positive and optimistic? Is this change exactly what I wanted? Probably not, but am I at least going to keep playing and give it a try? Abso-f'ing lootly! I love this game!

How about put up separate seasons one for the Seasonal character and one for the Main chaaracter.

In this particular game my favorite part is leveling up getting stronger and noticing the game leveling up with me scaling up with me changing gear to fit the scaling in the game is really what this game is all about I mean it just is and that's my opinion so I'm just saying this might not be a bad thing I'm just hoping for the best

The "scout" is going to be anything weekly project. The only "different" thing is that it'll be with a new character. That's really not a new way to play the game.

It would be easier to add master level after legendary on missions or world setting to master which is between heroic and legendary. Might solve the problems

well great!!! so I can't finish this new content because I now need to team up with others?! I like playing this game solo, I don't want to be forced to play with others so I can unlock the final content!

Currently it seems only people with ubisoft partnership are liking this new change, maybe some new players will like it too. This game is a wasteland kept alive by a very loyal but small fanbase, who will be leaving. RIP The Division 2 and most llikely The Division 3 too

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

Well I dont have Ubisoft partnership of any form so that opinion is squashed. Go again

@MarkB-ft8cy

Ай бұрын

@@GCROCK i am surprised by that. You are one of the most important people in The Division community who helped keep the game alive all these years, it's baffling you're not a partner

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

Ive applied, twice lol 😂

@MarkB-ft8cy

Ай бұрын

@@GCROCK that's one more reason I won't get excited about these upcoming changes. If they don't respect and recognize someone as VIP in the community as you, they won't give two cents about us

It been a great ride but, this agent is hang up His watch

I wonder if your new seasonal character is going to be weaker than other seasonal characters that have more time to grind the game over you. Not sure id be a fan of that after putting a couple thousand hours into the game to become strong. I really hope this works, I love the game and would hurt if I had to leave because of needing to grind to be able to complete content and have fun again over respawning often because your SC is weak. Thanks for the video GC and your enthusiasm.

That's excacly what I'll do, but i have concerns, but i try to be optimistic, but there's only so much glue you can put over glue for the glue to be adhesive. What you read makes more sense than what they've put out recently, maybe because let's face it this game is complex, alot dont see what that takes. But if you've noticed the new dlc with Destiny 2, then that's what we want, a good new experience that follows the Lore on. But we'll see, but at this point no skills not working in raids, can't heal yourself sometimes, is that going to be apart of this new venture to, that's my worry, and i wouldn't worry if i didn't absolutely love this game.

If I have to create a new character I will be done. Some are attacking those who dislike it as well.

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

I know, it all needs to stop. Any form of attacking 👍

@valfoor

Ай бұрын

You should see Redit... People who are happy to create a new character are attacked. Gamers, eh.... Temperamental bunch.

I agree Main characyers are Not changing. So its ok. Trying new things is a great idea and I agree not cool to Marsh someone's mellow LOL I'm kind of digging where they're going with this and I think everybody might be a little surprised the format has to change at some point I think that they're going to try this with seasonal characters and see how it goes and change the format to the game to make it better just saying it's not affecting our main characters so I'm willing to try anything new

That first part about warlock WR is not quite true. I mean it is true that Princeton I have an existing player that doesn’t own or Lord won’t be able to go to her unless I buy warlords, but I will be able to level to 40 and get my watch, however, players get out buy the game any longer. I’m accept my way of hard copies of that they might find somewhere in the store, but if you buy it digitally on PlayStation for that, for instance there are only two options. One is called a bundle option and definitely includes Ward. The other is the ultimate addition which by the way was what I originally purchased And the normal ultimate stuff like the year one season pass in which gave you that exclusive those exclusive missions Julian so just players are not going to have to buy more large it included and right now the bass game is 999 on PlayStation if I want to spend 749 justthe game including large is 999. You buy the ultimate addition though it’s like 60 bucks discounted it’s 60 bucks which pisses me off because I probably paid $120 and I didn’t because I bought it way back when

New content.... I'm happy. Seasonal characters.... Aye, née botha... I'm on my 4th main character and umpteenth mule....

What is the point of having a main character if for each season we will have to create a new one. If for example the next 10 seasons we will get a new character per season, when will I be able to use my main one? 2 weeks per season? Basically for one year we will be able to use our main character for 6 weeks. 4200 hours in the game all that grinding to max out our gear and they just tell us that is useless now since with each new season you will have to create a new character. So create a new character, refarm again all the gear you farmed the previous years or the gear that is in that season and by the time you farm that gear, you will have to create a new character and all the stuff you farmed will be transferred to your main character but you will only be able to use them for 2 weeks. They decided to kill the game once and for all. There is basically 0 incentive now to improve on your main character since whatever you improve now will be useless in a few months.

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

The seasonal stuff will take about 15 hours from your 4 months. Plenty of time left to do anything else that you want to

@zorro8027

Ай бұрын

This exactly; what the heck did I even bother grinding my EB or Rav for if I’m not gonna be able to use the builds I have with them in the first place? If I can’t enjoy the game using the gear I worked hard to grind for, I don’t want to play the game. That’s something people just don’t seem to want to realize. It’s not just the seasonal character model, or the fact that every season we start from level 0. It’s the fact that every new season the Characters is clean slated, and thus you cannot use any of your gear until they hit lvl 40. No point in even trying to grind a strong gear set because next season it will be wiped and worthless. I’m not gonna bother playing the game, if I’m gonna have to re-farm my favorite builds every season and re-grind up to lvl 40 just to be able to enjoy my gear and MC for 2 weeks.

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

Your main stays as it is now with same goals. What is it you do now that you can't do then? Not arguing, just wondering what is so important that they are taking away from you?

@Butcher851

Ай бұрын

@@GCROCK Expertise, max gear, our current loadouts, all those you will not be able to use it in like 90% of the game as they mention themselves. Just give us the option not force it on everyone. I understand they want to change things but why force everyone to play like this, it's like take it or leave it.

@nandor_gaming

Ай бұрын

Dude. You will do the weekly seasonal activities in 30 minutes (like always) and jump back to you Main chapter 🤷‍♂️

It's disingenuous to continually say people just don't understand it, especially after the recent FAQ. It's no wonder people are frustrated with you. Also, I see plenty of the people that are for this change attacking the other side as well. Your continual gaslighting is ridiculous.

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

Again attacking me. Read through the comments and tell me that people 100% understand this? I have replied to several already that don't quite understand it. One person even dropped a paid membership thanking me for breaking it down. If you fully understand it, the video wasn't for you. Stop assuming everyone is you. Thank fuck they arn't

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

And yes, I also see plenty of people attacking the other way around. If you read my community announcement I made today I touch on this from both sides.

@SuperSlankyLanky

Ай бұрын

@@GCROCK Attacking you is not my intent. it's that you dismissing the opposing side while painting them with a broad brush I'm intending to go after. I, and many other fully understand it. If you have some behind the scenes information to show us how we don't understand it. Then please share, I would rather have a more optimistic outlook on the changes. Otherwise you have the same info as everybody else., and to say they don't understand is indeed disingenuous. looking though the comment it looks like the majority of the opposition get it. Anyway I sincerely hope everybody looking forward to it enjoys it to it's fullest,. But so far it just looks like it's not going to be for me.

@SuperSlankyLanky

Ай бұрын

@@GCROCK Should have put that in the video. otherwise it looks like you're trying to frame the other side in a certain light.

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

I am not dismissing the other side at all. Just sharing my side. Can sit here all day and respectfuly discuss stuff. Agreed I should have added it in the video too. Was too late once it had been done but went out in the announcememt. The message was clear though, have your opinion and let others have theirs without attacking it.

Refreshing current content is just the same as it has been…different ways to kill the same enemies in the same missions

Great video. They should have had a QandA session on youtube (not anti-social media, like Fakebook) a long time ago, and should do so every time they do updates to explain what they are doing, like they used to do with Hamish way back when in Div 1. And DO NOT have Yannick involved in any way with any QandA. Get somebody who is competent, actually plays the game, and who cares about the players and their concerns. I'm off to play the Elden Ring DLC and won't be back till they've sorted out their unholy mess. Cheers, Harry.

Dude did you really say they are letting you play the game the way you want too? It literally said in the statement they released that if you didn’t use a seasonal character you wouldn’t get access to seasonal content. That means any new gear or weapons released would only be available to the SC and not the main character. Now I don’t know about you but, to me that sounds like they are forcing you to play the way they want you to play if you want them seasonal stuff that you would normally get. “So Hear Is Locked Loot”, you can have it but only if you play our way 🤦‍♂️

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

Tell me, what new gear have you used the last few seasons? Because they also talk about how hard it is to create content for us with how powerful we are. Besides the Rugged Gloves I havnt used anything personaly. In fact I would say for the last two seasons we have all complained how trash everything is. The new system fixes that. And on the other side, yes you can play how you want. If you don't want to to play the new seasonal character then just wait for the loot. My guess is most people will play because it will be fun but we have to wait and see on that. Did you also see how they may make gear and amend gear for seasonal purpose? This sounds like it could be fun also

@travisclay9239

Ай бұрын

@@GCROCKI don’t use the Rugged Gauntlets because I don’t hip fire or blind fire from cover but, I do use the Palisades Steelwork on a very regular basis. And if I’m having to play a seasonal character to get ANYTHING then no I’m not being allowed to play how I want because there is no guarantee it will hit the general loot pool. No matter if I use it or not I should still be able to get it without jumping through the hoops the devs are setting up. As far as being “overpowered” who gives a damn honestly, I mean it is PVE content after all it’s not like I’m fighting other agents to finish the seasonal track.

@zorro8027

Ай бұрын

@@travisclay9239 This is what I hate about the “you just want to be OP” argument that’s going around. Do they not realize that the game is PvE and has difficulties? If you want to be OP set the game to easy and obliterate content with mid builds. This is something we understand that they don’t, Travis.

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

@@travisclay9239 ah Palisade Yeah, I use that too. Yea, it is guarenteed to hit the general pool. You just have a more fun way of getting it first now.

@travisclay9239

Ай бұрын

@@GCROCKI still call bullshit and another thing, how damn buggy do you think it’s going to be? Considering they can barely do a “major” update now without introducing new bugs and glitches (some that have broken the game at times), how do you think they’re going to manage multiple at one time. But you do you man, keep that shiny happy feeling about what’s coming. As for me after this season I’m probably out, there are plenty of other games out there.

It seems interesting and worth maybe giving it a go buuuut as we all know the devs can't do anything without breaking the game. We're expecting a DLC in January. I'm not seeing it. Should be fun

The Division 2 online community goes something like this..... Gamer - 'I have a strikers build and I can speed run legendary content with ease' Devs - 'we're introducing seasonal characters' Gamer - 'but I don't want that, I want to speed run any and all new content... Because it's my right' '

GC glad to hear you are at least somewhat enthusiastic about the new season. Unfortunetly for those of us who hate grinding this is the developers doing all they can do to drive us away from the game. I hate grinding to get my character to a level were I feel I am at least somewhat competitive. Certainly there has been a lot of effort put into this revamp but I feel it has been misplaced. The fact that with each season i will have to grind again is so frustrating I find it difficult to put it into words that be termed acceptable for general content. We will see but i feel this is another mistake similar to "descent". Descent is a waste of time as the rewards are less than desirable for my end game character. The Vindicator is a weapon i got to try it but it sits in my stash as a place holder due to its poor performance. They would have been better served to finish the new DLC and release this earlier than next year. Fix the problems with the game and release the dlc, dont punish us with an endless GRIND. That is not fun for anyone but those who enjoy boredom. This attempt at a refresh is welcome but I feel this is basically a failure. 15 weeks of grinding to allow us a 2 week stint with our normal character is frankly insulting. Here is a little cookie players now shut up and quit annoying us. Thats what that feels like. As always thanks for all you do! Irishrose

I am looking forward to seasonal characters and content I feel sorry for all the hate towards content creators blame massive or Ubisoft not people who make videos as updates to division 2 content

Losing on the seasonal characters, why are you run out to level up again but very quickly you’re ready to get new gear. They’re not going to have expertise and every player in the season it’s gonna be on the same playing chill which is going to give them the ability to make the season of the season event challenging for everyone, also going to give new players away to quickly gear up and get stuff the hand to their main character every season people are jumping a lot of conclusions about that that aren’t going to age. Well come season two.

I'm on Xbox Series X & I'm gonna try it out this September or October. plus the division developers are gonna get feedback that will be in division 3. I'm excited for giving the seasonal characters are chance that will be different from our main character builds. Great point @GcRock

@alfredthibodeaux2414

Ай бұрын

Same. I'm curious about it; we'll see how it goes. 🫰

So GC how do you feel about expertise? Do you think this was a waste of time, especially for people that work 40 hours a week?

@PonyGummidge

Ай бұрын

U don't need expertise for anything in the game...it's nice and helps but not needed

@diemellz

Ай бұрын

Definitely wasted time

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

I still havn't worked on expertise 😂😂 But yeah, not wasted at all. New incursion/raid comes and I am using my main with all the expertise to tackle that. So I don't see why this is an issue personally.

@goodregs

Ай бұрын

@@GCROCK Q: Will there be any new content for the main non-seasonal characters? A: Non-seasonal characters will continue to have access to all existing game content, including both WONY and the upcoming DLC. Right now, there are no intentions to introduce another Incursion or Raid.

@justinsaiyan5587

Ай бұрын

@@diemellzis it? Does the current seasonal content really require you to need to have grinded your expertise? Or does the endgame that we currently have that isn’t going away take better advantage of your expertise? Why does a change in how you play the seasonal content take away from your grind?

While I am not against the new Seasons 2.0, I just dont trust ubisoft no more. Between Heartland, Brooklyn DLC, Division 3 whispers, etc, it just feels like they are stringing along the D2 playerbase as long as they can. And Season 2.0 at this point in the game feels like they might just be doing it to extend playtimes artificially by forcing players to spend 3X as long grinding out a manhunt since we will have to start from zero. Maybe I'll try D3...if it isn't a pipe dream, that is.

This would maybe make sense if they added actual content. This is just another way to get you to grind it out again. What challenge? Its the same content just making you start over. Manhunt by another name is still a manhunt. Come on. Be as "positive" as you like but, a spade is still a spade. Its still the same content. More people would be playing Descent if this was a popular thing. Can't wait to see how this bombs so hard. Immersion happens when I can follow the story as is. Not dismissing all the time I put in to have to rush through a 2 week window? That's straight up disrespectful to the community as a whole.

#Notificationsquad I'm still stoked for seasons 2.0. Even moreso after the FAQ came out

No players are not going to have to purchase the expansion because they can’t find the game at all what you would normally call the standard edition on PlayStation comes with the war large expansion. You can’t buy it any other way any longer they took that out of the shop I had food they’re doing that everywhere you buy the game electronically, I think they said so but that was one of the things that they were going to do was aluminate kind of a various version choices that make it simple game plus sword, ultimate addition, plus sword goes to the two choices now so new players will by default and warlords

Question for the haters, and this is real, not sarcasm. What would you (realistically) want them to do instead of this? We all know seasons are incredibly boring, and people have been asking for a rework for genuinely years. As soon as they try to rework it, it gets shut down immediately before people even really know what it entails. They don't really have the team size to pump out DLCs every two months like everyone wants (myself included), but it seems like anything less than that gets shut down before they're even done saying what it is.

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

Make more fresh content like a new map, new incursion etc. Thats the jist I am getting.

@eliterusher1649

Ай бұрын

If the main take for this year is seasonal characters make the experience optional and make the rewards unique, not just accelerated XP for a main character that has nearly everything. Like I don't see why I'm gonna transfer subpar gear over to a character stash with exclusively godrolled gear. Like a good reward for completing the seasonal character would be a godrolled crafting bench for the remainder of that season (yes I know it's a bug) And give some content for the main character, the fact that the Chinese version of the game is getting legendary Potomac and Lincoln missions plus the abyss game mode whereas we are getting underpowered for each new season for equality feels like a kick in the nuts. They could give us resistance or a new faction or new enemy types for existing factions which would spice up gameplay and strategy. The whole issue is the rewards for spending my time doing these Seasonal characters just aren't there.

@InHellsBackyard

Ай бұрын

Fixing bugs that have been around for years now. At this point, they could have added heartland as a season, and people would pay for it.

here is problem i see with people are having. We look at it oh farmed expertise for no reason and wow we get to use main for season content 2 weeks out of the season. that pisses off veterans players. The want use Main characters with our favorite guns like ourbouros. My opinion this is cost lot of players to leave until the new DLC comes out next yr.

The main issue for me and clan mates is that the season track can only be progressed on a seasonal character (SC), so any new gear/exotics etc will require one unless you're happy waiting over two months to blitz it on your main. Manhunt progression is a bit vague. Seems like that can also only be progressed on a SC, culminating in a climax mission but then they said that same mission can be tackled on your main. So you don't need to do all the leadup to the final mission and can simply do it and that's it done? Tbh 95% of what I do now has nothing to do with seasons nor the manhunt. I'll pick and choose and do the minimum to get the track rewards then back to whatever. it's really only the season track progression that I take issue with.

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

With you on this. I was hoping the track could still be worked on account wide like it is now but by the looks of it, it will be seasonal character only. I guess there will be some drawbacks and this is definitely one.

Sorry, people are acting tough for you voicing your option. I hope you're right and that it's a fun new way to play the game. I disagree with your belief that they'll do even half of the things you believe will come out. These are the same people who released a video saying the mosquito was the most used weapon and the aegis the most used gear set. Further, they are they same ones that ignore almost all feedback from PTS and fix bugs that are a benefit to players within days (craft station, etc) and leave other bugs that have been there for years (fragile armor, etc). This just shows me how out of touch they are with their player base. All that said, I agree with the giving it a try. Just extremely low bar. Thanks again for the good viado

With work and family, some of us don't have the luxury to grind for 15 weeks with a seasonal character and worse, wait for 15 weeks to use your non-seasonal character to access the Seasonal content during the Intermission Period. Basically making your main character a side character. At this point of the game's life cycle, it should have been optional. I sincerely appreciate the devs' continued support on the game - but this is just heart breaking. But I am gonna try out and see how it goes. Based on the information shared as of now, not ecstatic.

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

Its 15 hours across 15 weeks. I get you, I have many friends with families and jobs. I was that person before this was my job. I never even had time to game for years. I don't think 15 hours across 15 weeks with the option of more is that bad at all.

@jithinmanohar1094

Ай бұрын

@@GCROCK I hear you G. Gonna try and see how it unfolds.

@billy_cross5580

Ай бұрын

Trying to be dude and that’s not it’s gonna take you less than 15 hours maybe more if you’re slow then I’ll you’re not that good at leveling up like the title says wait until you can try it before you judge it. Anything else is ludicrous something case and tell you actually put it in your mouth.

@billy_cross5580

Ай бұрын

Trying to be dude and that’s not it’s gonna take you less than 15 hours maybe more if you’re slow then I’ll you’re not that good at leveling up like the title says wait until you can try it before you judge it. Anything else is ludicrous something case and tell you actually put it in your mouth.

@billy_cross5580

Ай бұрын

Oh please it’s quite evident and I haven’t even been playing the division for years. It’s quite evident to me that the seasons are set up to give balance to something that has not been balanced for a long time eliminating all the advantages that players have putting everybody on the same playing field, letting you play through the season standard gear Shape, watch levels or whatever a higher rate go through the season climax and then absorb all the shit you gained in near me there’s nothing that says you can use your TV but you’ll be playing against other people with their name if you’re playing seasonal character TV beetle only be against other people who don’t have expertise Simply creating a playing field opportunity quite frankly for people to create new characters and level them up without being at a huge disadvantage and without taking 40 or so hours wrapped up in all of this is other things like the stream lining of character progression eliminating all the stupid ridiculous things like world tears Allowing everybody to level up to 40 whether they have more or not allow everybody to get a watch watch allowing new players to experience more large because you can’t buy a game anymore without war lord comes in the game comes in the ultimate dish. it’s doing a bunch of things and quite frankly all of it is good for the game for the franchise because right at the moment the franchise is dead. The only people that are playing at our venture players, nobody wants to join

Ah, circle the wagons....Vondoom, Rouge G, GROCK activate and hype this junk up.

Don't call people whingers for not liking the thought of it

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

Im not, I am calling the whingers, wingers. You know, the ones whining and attacking the devs and throwing their dummy out like "I quit this game even know we haven't tried it yet". They then attack anyone that has anything positive to say and pick at anything they can even though half the stuff they ramble on about is answered in the communication. It works the other way too with people attacking anyone with a negative opinion. Its all a bit silly. Anyway... Nothing wrong with any opinion that is shared in a respectable way. That is not what I am calling whinging. That is very much encouraged!

4:25 the whole reason why they should have left the game alone! Game is old as

This is a waste of time for veteran players what's the point this won't make it better it's the same grind.This is a boring ideal it's still going to be the same thing just with another character having to grind all over again lol this won't make what we've been doing that much better.Its the same content nothing new.

How tf are you gonna say people don’t understand

I’m excited for this change honestly. I don’t have the investment level as a lot of you so for me this gives me way more options on how I get to experience this game. Grind my main or try a fresh grind with a seasonal character. Having the seasonal character be able to make progress towards on an account wide progression to me feels very good. I wish intermission was 4 weeks but I’m glad I can take my main into the seasonal content at the end if I decide to. I just recently picked the game back up so I have a TON to grind with my main. Being able to decide how I experience this game for where I am in my progress is exciting to me.

I, for one, can't wait for these changes to come. It's great they've started really investing in the game again, and are trying to refresh the way we play.

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

Nice to see some more comments inline with my thoughts. Fully agree and my only complaint, we needed this years ago!!

@docevil7327

Ай бұрын

@@GCROCK Indeed, it would have been nice to have that earlier, but, as you pointed out, the game was initially abandonned by Ubisoft, and I think that's only through a healthy base of dedicated players, and communities such as the one you've built, that they realised there was enduring love for the game and decided to bring it back from extinction. I'm happy they're gonna be able to introduce new things without breaking the whole mechanics of the game thanks to seasonal characters. I'm also happy we'll be forced to play it with fresh builds and guns, and I hope it won't simply be a case of recreating the current meta builds on the seasonal character but truly forcing us to come up with new builds.

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

You are right. I think the point that they are able to do different things with a seasonal character on a seperate server may be getting overshadowed. This is the bit that excites me the most. I don't want to get too ahead of myself but lets just go full flow... Imagine they bring what every single fan wants.... snow! This could be a type of modifier they are talking about along with others. They won't but that I guess is the potential. Having this seperate server they can reset every season allows them to have fun with it too. They can go against the norm with this. Maybe even repurpose stuff on the server, open up Kenly and make it something people want to do. Possibilities are endless. It will be good to hear what they do for the first season and then onwards on upwards from there.

@docevil7327

Ай бұрын

I don't think snow is coming to the game, I think it would be much more work than we think to make it happen, but I agree it would be great. In Div 3 I hope they'll have 4 seasons, with new technologies it's feasible and will actually be in the next Assassin's Creed. I'm really curious to see what these modifiers are, especially because they said it wouldn't be feasible in the main game... a survival modifier? :D And yes, they could repurpose the whole map... I want season 2 already! LOL

I understand it and it’s shit

Thank you for taking the time to break it all down. After listening to this latest post decided to Sub appreciate all you do. We diehard are not going anywhere because what other 3rd person looter shooter does what D2 dies. PEACE

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

Appreciate the sub! Thank you

Speaking for myself every season on destiny2 you have to grind levels and i enjoy it. Div 2 new take on this is interesting. As i just started playing on PC as well, I'm enjoying the grind. I believe we are prepping for DIV3. They need more information for the future. As far as feedback im not going to say the content is going to good or bad until i try it for myself. As we are all different, what i like about the new content dropping may be different from other persons and vice versa. In short love division from the books to the game 1 and game 2. One last thing. We need to remember that they were done div2 after the fay lau manhunt. They listened to the community and have been doing a mad scramble to keep us happy. This is the new vision of a new team trying their best to keep it going.

I'm gona try it first then decide. Always amazed me people that know everything and never done it.

No one speaks for me, I don’t base my fun off of others opinions. It’s my game and I enjoy it with or without anyone. I always look forward to new content. Don’t knock it till you try it, I say.

I don't get the hate to grind, while we've been grinding for 5 years. We've been doing the same content for 5 years, and when we get something newish we bitch about it. Since strikers and st elmo's, where is the need for another build. When you have your main, stash and 2 mules full of great pieces, optimization, expertise level 26 etc. there is nothing a developer can do to keep us happy than set us back in power, because everything else they do will be easy in a few tries, or just to difficult for newer players. In essence, we, the veteran players, created the need for seasons 2.0 by playing a 50 hour game for 2500 hours.

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

With you on this. Really looking forward to being challenged again. Not just by difficult content but actually having something fresh to play and build around. Yeah, same old map and missions but a fresh way if doing it. I had enough of do these control points, do these bounties a long time ago.

No thanks 🤢🤮

Modifiers like ghost Recon breakpoint raids similar to that i guess

People losing their minds before even experiencing the very thing they are pissing and moaning about is very on brand though. I have no idea if I'll like it or not, though I will once I actually try it.

Listen the way gaming is goin now its rough to get a rite balance game,,i stop plyin the division over 3-yrs now because it's just copy n paste content,,mission are the same enemies spawn the same ,,n everything is just the same ,just as in Warframe am awaiting the first Descendant 😮

I love how people are saying this will kill the game. The game has already lost quite a few people due to lack of content. This is something new they are trying. If you don't like the idea, dont make a seasonal character. This wont kill the game. Diablo 3 has been around since 2012, and still has a strong following. They use this same seasonal method. Diablo 4 is out, and the majority of people play seasonal characters. Saying this is going to kill an already dying game is quite foolish. If you don't want to make a seasonal character, then don't. You can keep playing your main that has nothing left to do, and it wont affect that character at all.

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

I need that 100 emoji for this comment

@kedriad2558

Ай бұрын

Lol

@zorro8027

Ай бұрын

Is there anyone else that sees the irony of the premise behind this comment, the last two sentences of this comment, and the reason for major backlash of the community? No? Just me?

I can’t wait to play it

Im in....i mean what am i gunna do, go back to destiny 😂😂 Im excited to try it and to see what they have in store for us😊

@zorro8027

Ай бұрын

Tbf destiny is popping off rn compared to the division. Elden ring DLC is right around the corner too😂

Let the beat ROCK!

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

You beat my pinned comment, talk about notification squad!

I was pretty on the fence, but after hearing more about it, im good with it. Im nearly 10k SHD and level 26 everything. Content is so easy. It will be nice to have a challenge and then it all goes back to my main character anyway. Ppl that are agonst it crack me up. They have no problem grinding out another character on WONY 30-40 for a resource mule but then suddenly season 2.0 is problem 😂? These ppl will be back.

@justinsaiyan5587

Ай бұрын

I’m excited for it too. I just picked the game back up and started a fresh character on Xbox and hit 40 last night. I have soooo much I wanna do on my main so having the seasonal character be able to transfer over xp and loot still to me feels like I’m working on my one main character but instead of just farming the end game now I get the option to farm with a fresh season with new modifiers and loot. To me it’s more options. It still to me feels like the way I wanna play this game continues to work on my entire account wide progression and to me that feels awesome. I’ll continue to work and min/max my main but each season I’ll just have fun and experiment with the modifiers and new loot that will probably take advantage of it. Also PvP and the DZ should be fresh and exciting again! I totally understand why vets may not like change but for me and how I wanna play this game this sounds interesting and exciting

@Butcher851

Ай бұрын

The problem is not so much creating a new character, the problem is they are not giving you any other choice, people are pissed because you are not giving them an option but you are forcing them to do it without even asking. You could create a new mule character which is 10 levels basically then get rid of it and play on your main and you could that WHENEVER you wanted because it WAS UP TO YOU, now they have taken away that option it's either take it or leave it. With this system is you create a new character and you are stuck with it, you cannot go back to your main until the last 2 weeks, then when the season finishes boom the new one comes and your main character is useless again because you cannot use it until the last 2 weeks of the new season and so on and so on. Just give the option to opt out of this and you will see how many people will choose a seasonal character. The vast majority by far I believe will opt out. The way they are implementing this is basically you will be able to use your main character 6 weeks per year. The rest you are stuck with a new character per season.

Honestly I'm looking forward to it, to throw shade on them trying stuff is just petty. After all they were just going to walk away from it.

Some players like to play same content for centuries others demand respect to logic. I align with the others. Fool me once shame on me the rest you all know it.

@PonyGummidge

Ай бұрын

Sounds like u will be moving on to another game then

@shadysaad1989

Ай бұрын

@PonyGummidge already installed few games had them on my pending list and will be trying the new game Descended dropping in July with few freinds. I am a hard-core Div player no doubt but now is the time to just play the update which doesnt take much then jump to other games till the DLC drops but I am disappointed from the devs. Even the npcs are sick and tired of playing against us after 6 years.

@PonyGummidge

Ай бұрын

​@@shadysaad1989fair play

@shadysaad1989

Ай бұрын

@PonyGummidge too bad pvp is dead in div 2 would have played a bit. Can't seem to find committed players since PVP DZ is bad in div 2.

This game is dead and i don't know why people crying about this.

@GCROCK

Ай бұрын

Because its not dead and people care. I could go on and give you some very promising stats of the game from the last season alone but feel the time spent would be wasted

@nuclearvenom45

Ай бұрын

Go back to call of duty big crybaby

I’m excited for it about time they change the seasonal content it has gotten very stale

So many crying are like, "Massive is garbage! STOP GIVING THEM YOUR MONEY!!! I'm done with D2, I'll see you guys in D3." 😂😂😂☠️☠️☠️