"when everything is terrible and you feel like a terrible person and you think the world hates you, it's important to remember, that you have not even scratched the surface on how bad a person can be." thank you for this. please pick a more wholesome iceberg next time.

@Dragonatrix

3 жыл бұрын

Someone needs to make a Cute Animals Doing Cute Things iceberg as a detox method or something for after this.

@luxuscarnage4828

3 жыл бұрын

What's sad is how bad so many wholesome movies are. There are a few but what most people consider wholesome is torment for others. At least make it interesting so people can enjoy them. Rom coms suck. Cutesie family flicks are more for kids. I just think it's a difficult request.

@BacchusDiem

3 жыл бұрын

@@luxuscarnage4828 might i suggest diving into the labryinthian nightmare of americana known as the netflix christmas movie cinematic universe

@luxuscarnage4828

3 жыл бұрын

@@BacchusDiem I can't believe you would even suggest that kind of evil.

@ashie06

2 ай бұрын

​@@luxuscarnage4828I'd recommend some older fantasy movies like Hook and The Princess Bride, perhaps? classic comfort films for me at least :3

I love listening to you talk about movies, so maybe if there's a non-horrifying arthouse/avant-garde/experimental film iceberg out there I'd like to see you cover that.

@raddestoflads7771

3 жыл бұрын

@@talkgoodenglish7500 man, Funny Games is really good. Some fucked up shit too. That mf is what I would describe as a truly disturbing fictional movie.

@castinyork647

3 жыл бұрын

@@talkgoodenglish7500 i love funny games

@KristofskiKabuki

3 жыл бұрын

@@talkgoodenglish7500 I was thinking the same, it would be great to learn about the most disturbing movies that are actually interesting or attempting to do something other than just shock

@ConvincingPeople

3 жыл бұрын

@@Eden-xy7gk Do it! :D Maybe round up some friends who are also into crazy weird shit. Make it a real collaborative effort, get as much input as possible. I want to see this. :3

@lunah33

3 жыл бұрын

That would be great

It's very weird that so many genre nerds take horror down the winding hell road to just....upsetting p0rn. The idea that one could start with The Exorcist and end up watching Squirmfest just to feel something is wild

@loganplonski922

3 жыл бұрын

That's why I will sit happily at Level 2, happily telling everyone that Hereditary is the most disturbing movie I've seen.

@xathyrus7043

3 жыл бұрын

@@loganplonski922 I’m at level 3, I just hate movies about man torturing woman just for fun and mondo things

@merror-fx8cn

3 жыл бұрын

I actually got to the level before Gusomilk thanks to being a Rotten regular! I quit *right* before LiveLeak became a thing, which, was honestly good for my well-being?- and that's probably the only reason I didn't get into the full bottom tier stuff. I absolutely can picture myself searching that shit out. The reason I stopped was because, like, I went to college and started having friends and people who validated me as a weird edgy person in the world- and, don't get me wrong, a lot of bad shit happened to me then too, but it wasn't this ugly secret I was carrying around anymore, where the specific thing about me made me deserve it was that I was a creepy kid. And I think part of it was- I was a really traumatised teenager who loved upsetting horror *because* it felt like one of the only things that validated my sense of the world being a secretly very unsafe, highly upsetting place, and seeing gore porn absolutely felt like, the real shit, the truth of how horrible the world is, the hellish qualities of other humans, etc. etc. You know the drill. Getting away from that was good for me, but what was even better was, living with people and in places that were at least mostly safe and validating? Because May is absolutely correct, though I think the causation here can be messy- sometimes you come to gore *because* the world is being bad to you, and you want something, anything, that confirms that it's not just in your head. It doesn't actually help, at all, but that's the purpose it serves.

@Auggiekins

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, a lot of this is just…. someone’s gross porn, and I’m not sure what that something special may refers to is that makes people want to watch them outside of that context. I thought it was artistry, but maybe just…. random chance, it got found and spread as a “challenge” to try watching, or something for shitheads to send to friends/strangers.

@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick

3 жыл бұрын

Why is it always porn? Like, don’t get me wrong, that’s shit’s gross as fuck, but why is weird sex stuff always where these freaks’ heads go when they wanna make a traumatizing movie?

next up: an iceburg of all the cutest animals on earth

@al5068

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! This! So we can have our sanity spared! 😄

@arrow_of_ravenclaw5155

3 жыл бұрын

The first layer would probably be well known cute animals(dogs, cat, ect.) while as it goes down, it would be more obscure exotic animals

@amethyststudios6967

3 жыл бұрын

PLEASE!!!! WE NEED IT!!!!

@awetistic5295

3 жыл бұрын

I just found out Giant Cloud Rats exist and it made my life brighter and happier. Discovering new cute animal species is something everyone needs and deserves.

@jacksim5759

2 жыл бұрын

the mousedeer is the smallest undulate. it is sceintifically, very cute

You said “when I hit 100,00” subs” and I took actual HP damage. Been watching you for like 5 years and I forget you’re not like. A much larger channel. Wild, you really should be.

@Kate-uj9rx

3 жыл бұрын

Omg!! I've been watching since elementary and now I'm halfway thought highschool! Shes so underrated!

@celery8059

3 жыл бұрын

Seriously though! This is my favorite horror channel on KZread, such a hidden gem

@ko2vo

3 жыл бұрын

May has been doing this for so long and she is so intelligent in her film analysis, she really deserves much more attention!

@TheRainstorm97

3 жыл бұрын

I also took immediate psychic damage from hearing that

@ninamclaughlin8376

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed - she is so brilliant and prolific - and funny as hell - truly one of the best youtubers ever...

I saw someone, a total stranger, die in front of me when I was a child. I’m turning 29 and I’m STILL in therapy trying to deal with it and all the other baggage throughout my life. So the fact that so many people seek this kind of stuff out, blows my mind.

@maryfreegirl2029

3 жыл бұрын

I highly doubt those people have everything going well, but they chose the absolute worse way to cope

@SaladPizzaRestaurant

2 жыл бұрын

@@maryfreegirl2029 I would say most of them are completely normal.

@BlackSheepNara

2 жыл бұрын

@@SaladPizzaRestaurant That’s a trillion times more depressing.

@MrMusicbyMartin

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds awful and a vivid experience. But I think that’s why so many people are watching this channel - all horror films help us engage with uncomfortable and difficult feelings and memories. I had to force myself to watch Texas Chainsaw Massacre when it became available but I did because I wanted to face it, in the same way I want to face the horrors of real life. In western cultures we don’t face death very well, we don’t have good ways to deal with it. Having said that, I can’t see any defence for animal cruelty, violent misogynistic treatment of women or real snuff, or films that focus on nothing other than sadism and mutilation - and it’s horrible that there’s market for it.

@briantalbot7929

2 жыл бұрын

I think your just weak honestly my mom sees death every day at her job and it doesn't affect her in the slightest

I also want to add, because May brings this up: if you're considering doing porn with an actual crew and not just your friends, you should Google the director, the crew, the other cast members! See if there are other industry workers who have things to say about the crew! Ask your friends in the industry! This wasn't very possible before about a decade ago beyond word-of-mouth, but it's a good way to make sure you're shooting with people who at least, like, aren't Max Hardcore level jerks, or if you're not up for Lucifer Valentine's... whole deal, and just like with any other employer, it's good to know what you're getting into with a shoot. Take care of yourselves out there.

@ConvincingPeople

3 жыл бұрын

The BDSM performer Charlotte Sartre actually gave a really good rundown of this based on her own early experiences in an episode of Noisextra-a podcast mainly dedicated to noise and experimental music; she was on discussing the work of Rozz Williams-and, man, knowing who you're working for and with is *imperative* in that industry, whether it's other actors, directors, agents, crew members, the whole deal. Keep tabs and do your homework!

@DJDocsVideos

3 жыл бұрын

One could say the late 90's early 2000's have been the "Dark Age" for porn productions before that it was a rather limited set of players and these days communication works much better, so "problematic" players in front and behind the camera do have a harder time.

@dumbumbumbum8649

3 жыл бұрын

@@DJDocsVideos nah. The 70s were the real dark age.

@ziggyzombie5179

3 жыл бұрын

@@dumbumbumbum8649 The 70's was the golden age

@ConvincingPeople

3 жыл бұрын

@@RED01SEA If you're involved in sex work, particularly performance, there's a degree of security that comes from having a full production company behind you. It makes things like promotion of your work a lot easier, you often get medical benefits you'd have to pay for yourself otherwise, the money is consistent, and if you work with good people, there's a lot to be said for the bonds and trust that can form. However, that last part is the most crucial, and if that's not there…

May: "so you get a vomit enema, right?" Me, eating a spoon of Ben & Jerry's: [nods]

@giftedboi

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not necessarily saying this is an admirable trait about myself, but I think I need to know what flavor of Ben & Jerry's

@patrickt.6492

3 жыл бұрын

I ate dinner while watching this.

@octopuddle6933

3 жыл бұрын

@@giftedboi Gimme S'mores

@ruliak

3 жыл бұрын

Last time may talked about it I was eating a guacamole burger....I no longer enjoy guacamole

@markalexander3659

3 жыл бұрын

I was eating Ben and Jerry's too! haha

Honestly.....this is helping me. I am just accepting that I am a living victim of genocide...my family members are among the 751 bodies found at the residential school. I dont know how to cope with this knowledge. My existential ennui is somehow soothed by your exploration of disgusting movies.

@numanumantis5462

3 жыл бұрын

I just heard about that. I am so sorry. I hope you are granted as much healing as possible going forward even if it seems far away.

@screaminmeani

3 жыл бұрын

@@numanumantis5462 thanks. I literally don't even know how to have feelings yet...just a lot of water and jazz cigarettes and painting so far...but there are lots more bodies...blech...makes more nauseated than a Lucifer Valentine actor!!

@stickyribs6494

3 жыл бұрын

i'm so sorry, just heard about this yesterday as well. as much as investigations are needed, the coming months are going to be very emotional and difficult for survivors and their families. stay safe, take time for yourself, celebrate those that are still with you

@itsemmallright

3 жыл бұрын

This comment somehow made me more disturbed then hearing about the stuff on the iceberg. I guess it hits different when you realise it's real people.

@zozozilla

3 жыл бұрын

Same. My family discovered that my grandmother was in one of those schools until she was old enough to be sent off to families to work as child labor and she was abused constantly. She went through a lot of trauma that she tried to avoid as much as possible so she couldn’t reconnect with her culture. She always said her main regret was never learning her indigenous language. So, in her honor, my mother and I plan on learning it and keeping that going. Keep strong and keep your mental health as a priority. This stuff is so depressing and shocking and hurtful. It even hurts generations after. I hope you are well and your family is healing as much as they can.

"The truth is what happens after you die is that someone's going to be kind of annoyed they have to deal with your body. " As a deathcare worker, this line resonates with me on a high frequency.

@rotgarg5308

2 жыл бұрын

I just want to be thrown in the trash honestly.

@danielaxc2900

2 жыл бұрын

@@rotgarg5308 same but legally we can't do that. I suggest looking into body donation if you like the idea of your corpse rotting without needing burial.

@winglessfairy564

7 ай бұрын

@@rotgarg5308🥺

This series low-key traumatised me so I can't imagine what it did to you. A true soldier.

@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick

2 жыл бұрын

Like the end of Metal Gear Solid 3 up in this bitch.

MD Pope sounds more like a 90's, Vatican based medical drama.

@goodwithastain

3 жыл бұрын

You're thinking of Pope, M.D.

@ThomasShatter

3 жыл бұрын

Or documentary about John Paul II

@aisback1990

3 жыл бұрын

MDPOPE is hated because of a certain movie he has and enjoys it

@rosywhite7852

3 жыл бұрын

@@aisback1990 He has Daisy Destruction. Tell people what type of monster Tomas Cinema gore is.

@sudevsen

3 жыл бұрын

Sister,5 ccs of holy water Stat! We're losing him!

OH ALSO, whilst BDSM isn’t something I’m really into, I don’t like how extra edgy pornographers take it and turn it into something that’s just… straight up abuse. I’ve had some friends who are into BDSM and I’ve also researched the topic because, again, whilst I’m not into it really, I am a sex positive person and I find researching these things to be interesting. The general consensus around BDSM is that you or your partner should never feel afraid. You should never be in real danger. A lot of the toys made for BDSM are made specifically to be safe to use. My old flatmate bought some BDSM tape and showed me that it only sticks to itself and that it doesn’t grip onto hair or skin that tight at all, and that it’s easy to remove if need be. One of the things I love about the BDSM community is how passionate the members are about consent, clear communication and aftercare. I know extreme BDSM exists, but even then for it to be classified as BDSM it NEEDS to be consensual, safe and fun for all parties involved. Once any of those factors are lost, in my eyes (and in a lot of BDSM lovers eyes), it stops being fun and it becomes genuine sexual abuse.

@biggestastiest

3 жыл бұрын

actual BDSM participant here, sexual trauma does feed into fetishes quite often. alot of people in this community like to feel fearful, but feeling actually unsafe is a different thing entirely. yes some of us do consent to being hit or punched or whatever, however, the biggest thing we uphold is consent. consent is always key. we're degenerates, but not monsters.

@cisrot

3 жыл бұрын

@@biggestastiest aww I wouldn’t say you’re degenerates! Some people are just kinkier than others! The only people I consider to be degenerates are pedophiles, zoophiles and people who fetishise their family members. I love the consensual aspect of BDSM, even when it’s extreme (needle / piercing play, ball busting, etc). Something I notice as well is that at the end of typical studio produced BDSM porn, there’s mostly always an after scene where the actors are talking about how much fun they had whilst cuddling.

@biggestastiest

3 жыл бұрын

@@cisrot thank you :) also aftercare is really important between partners. we always make sure to tell each other they're loved afterward

@langustajableczna

2 жыл бұрын

actually do not engage in this. Why do you want to be hurt or hurt others? Why would this make you cum. A lot of women go into this bc of trauma and men love exploiting that. Disgusting

@arrow_of_ravenclaw5155

2 жыл бұрын

I heard most people who do bdsm have a safe word. If they or their partner says it, they stopped

I used to seek out this sort of stuff a LOT in my teens, it led to me becoming almost emotionally numb, and it took a toll on my mental health. Thankfully I've regained my emotions since then lol but I can still not flinch at really bad gore, but animal/child abuse still gives me that sick feeling when I see it.

@leeannlokey

3 жыл бұрын

i did something similar when i was younger and i even ran a gore page. almost nothing would get to me, but then i stopped consuming that media for awhile and now it’s like a switch turned in my brain and i cant stand really any gore. especially animals and children being hurt, i was never okay with that though. it’s so scary how young we can be and see this fucked up of shit. it’s something that can change you for forever no matter what age, but it’s just sad we were one of those who saw and sought after it at a young age.

@somethingsomething9006

3 жыл бұрын

@@leeannlokey I used to frequent Best Gore and Ogrish, then kind of Live Leaks when it was new, but at that point I started to fall out of the gore chasing. Honestly, I wish I could flip that switch with gore, because even recently I got exposed to a beheading video as a fucked up prank, and I honestly wasn't bothered. I really fucked my brain up, I'm just grateful I gave up pursuing that stuff, I have a much more positive outlook on life because of that. Like you, I was never "used" to the animal violence, it always hurt my soul, but at one point it didn't hurt as bad. Now I'm back to feeling truly horrified when animals are involved. Honestly, I do worry for kids on the internet with this stuff. There are some seriously trauamtizing things you can very easily get exposed to, even TikTok has assholes throwing around beheading videos in makeup tags. I can't imagine just wanting to see how someone does their makeup and then see someone getting their head chopped off with a machete. Preteens can easily be in those kinds of places too.

@leeannlokey

3 жыл бұрын

@@somethingsomething9006 I remember the one suicide video prank showing up on tik-tok and I looked it up and it was just so sad. It should have never been circulating the first place, let alone for a tik-tok prank.I'm glad you're in a better place though despite past traumas content like that may have caused you. Hopefully in the future there will be better ways to protect kids and teens from these types of things, or just parents taking more precautions. (:

@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes

3 жыл бұрын

Child abuse makes me cry and I'm not really in that pit anymore, but I'm still totally unfazed by most of the worst gore at this point. Stumbling upon the shotgun video May mentions at the end is the last time seeing anything made me feel something not the visuals but the scenario. Even for the toolbox recording I felt nothing. I feel like that has to do with the time separation though maybe. Luckily for myself I never ended up watching the Christchurch video. Not the goriest I would imagine, but I can't emotionally deal with that.

@somethingsomething9006

3 жыл бұрын

@@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes I'm in a similar boat, but I actually did see the Christchurch video, but I wasn't fazed as much as I wanted to be. It's hard to talk about being unfazed by stuff without coming off as _that_ person who comes along and says "Oh you've seen nothing, kid, I've seen REAL fucked up stuff!" in a beheading video. I really want to be able to be grossed out or fazed by gore, but I just can't. I've overloaded my brain with fucked up videos and images. Similarly to you, it's the emotional impact that affects me now, but the visceral gore does nothing to me. I can feel sad when I watch the shotgun suicide video because suicide is always tragic, but the gore aspect doesn't even remotely affect me.

This part of the iceberg doesn’t even feel the least bit related to “horror” it’s just disgusting obscure compilations and liveleak footage without any purpose. Thank you May for dissecting this and actually talking about the insidious effects of these sorts of videos and just how much it depersonalizes you Please do a fun cryptid iceberg

Ronnie was my friend. After it all happened, we desperately tried to get it off FB. They sent us a message saying it didn't break policy and gave us numbers to the self delete prevention hotline. That + finding out how quickly this was spread around and gawped at was frankly traumatic. Please dont look for this. He deserved better. EDIT: i'm not saying May was wrong for bringing it up at all. it's good to be aware of so you don't get hit with it unexpectedly. I meant please dont look for it to everyone watching, i sort of panic-posted and didnt think how my wording could've been better.

@jacobbelyea7945

3 жыл бұрын

Which vid is this in reference to?

@Caius1942

3 жыл бұрын

I saw it when it was being stitched into TikTok’s and jesus it was horrible. I’ve seen a lot of the stuff on this iceberg except for the very last tier, and I’ve seen a lot of the stuff apparently put in those mixtapes separately, and it was frankly one of the worst. My heart goes out to you and the rest of his friends and family.

@BlackTapeGrrl

3 жыл бұрын

People are fucking terrible and Facebook is the actual fucking worst worst for not immediately taking it down. I am so sorry for your loss.

@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t look for…what?

@captainsawbones

3 жыл бұрын

@@Caius1942 i'm sorry you saw it. thank you for the well wishes. i didnt realize i still had this reaction to hearing about it until hearing it in the video so i'm sorry i brought that up again for you too

I feel particularly bad about this last level and your extra mentions mostly because I am from Mexico and somebody I personally knew for many years, played in a band together even, was murdered by Cartels. Yes, in the fashion that those videos probably depict. It's one thing for people to go "Oh f*cked up videos on the internet!" but it gets very real when it actually gets close to you: this is something we had to live with. This is something we *still* have to live with to this day: Cartels killed 17 people on a mayor border city right across from Texas just a few days ago. So big disclaimer about Not Safe for Life: Just don't do this to yourself. And if you had in the past (Because yes I did watched these videos in my youth ngl) it's never ok to just keep going because you think you're fully desensitized and still an ok person: you're not, it does has an effect on you so just don't.

@DJDocsVideos

3 жыл бұрын

it is rather unlikely that one takes permanet trauma from that but it's not impossible. Death, for us is fictional as long as it's not about anyone we know in person. If it wasn't like that most people couldn't watch the news without puking there guts out. It all boils down to empathy.

@TheRainstorm97

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your story.

@winglessfairy564

7 ай бұрын

@evuniiIm so glad I’m not the only one that feels that way about the gore enjoyers. Those that do I firmly believe that there’s something off with them

I have such a weird relationship with this kinda content. I’m 23 now, almost done college, and this shit was my bread and butter in like, middle school. Like I was 13, and I thought I was the hottest shit for seeking this stuff out and not being shocked by it, or sensitive to it. Now I’m an adult, and I realize how fucked up that was, I’m way more sensitive and emotional than I ever used to be. And yet I still… I don’t wanna say “like” hearing about it, but it still fascinates me.

@gwencere9383

3 жыл бұрын

I agree! I also used to be a lot more resilient to disturbing and upsetting content, I think I wasn't processing my emotions properly back then

@sidereus95

3 жыл бұрын

I think I'm with you there. I don't think I got too deep like the stuff in this video, but I always had a love/hate relationship with horror and shocking content. Too scared of haunted houses but was into urban legends and urban exploring. I think Jess Kaldwin hit the mark describing it as cathartic.

@fengy5629

3 жыл бұрын

im exactly the same way down to the ages! i thought it didnt bother me that much back then, but i still remember it all so vividly and im terrified of actually seeing it again. i'd love to hear what professionals have to say about this sort of thing, because now compared to other people im incredibly sensitive to any kind of footage of people getting hurt at all.

@adeer87

3 жыл бұрын

Me at 15: I am so cool and different for liking gore, I definitely don’t have emotional issues 😎 Me now: Perhaps this Disney movie is too traumatizing to watch right now.

@sidvargas517

Жыл бұрын

Yessss I’m the same way! I am totally convinced that my newfound agoraphobia and social anxiety has to do with the fact that I was so into watching shit like this when I was younger and just wanting to shock myself over and over again. I used to be desensitized but now I’m super sensitive and nervous and hyper vigilant. This stuff rewires people’s brains it’s really no joke. I regret watching any of that ever.

YESSS DO A CRYPTID ICEBERG!!! Thanks for taking us on this disturbing journey, May ❤️🥺

@jeremysmith4620

3 жыл бұрын

Only if the final episode is titled "Just the tip." Why not a whole iceberg series with that title? It's a sure fire way to hit 100k!

@fullmoonsociety7463

3 жыл бұрын

That's a great idea, but it has to be a big one

@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick

3 жыл бұрын

God, my girlfriend would love that. We each watch May’s content separately, but I think I’d need to watch that with her together.

@bustedkeaton

3 жыл бұрын

Seconded

@numb3r5ev3n

3 жыл бұрын

The Yacht Rock Iceberg!

the bjork stalker, You're talking about Ricardo Lopez right? London police safely intercepted the package, the only person he killed was himself

@cookieempiress232

3 жыл бұрын

also, she was dating Goldie, not Dennis Rodman

@amoureux6502

3 жыл бұрын

I cannot begin to tell you how relieved I felt to read that the bomb didn't kill anyone

@SirChubbyBunny

3 жыл бұрын

@@amoureux6502 The thing is if Ricardo didn't leave a massive note behind that his tapes documented what he did, there's a good chance Scotland Yard and the FBI would have been too late to intercept the package. That's the scary part.

I actually got a little interested in seeing Orozco the Embalmer, as gross as it sounds I am morbidly curious about the very sad concept of it. I googled it & found out that Orozco died during the production which is even sadder... I hope he got at least 1 Frosty.

@stephhernandez7772

3 жыл бұрын

Same, that one sounded super interesting and palatable to me

@traewilson5127

3 жыл бұрын

Orozco the Embalmer was the only film that got me like, "yeah, you know what, that not only seems like a worthwhile subject for a documentary, but even potentially a piece of art that isn't just...well, damn near every other thing on this list, which is borderline worthless."

@conceitedperson78

3 жыл бұрын

Watched it. It’s actually very sober. The man is just working. The film is just showing the process unfiltered. It’s Colombia so resources are limited and an embalming is... WORK. And then Orozco dies from complications from a hernia caused by all that work. And ... a few people lament his death. 🤷🏻‍♂️ 8/10 probably the least NSFL thing in this video.

@ConvincingPeople

3 жыл бұрын

One big thing that makes me want to watch this, in addition to what everyone else has said: For as edgelordy as some of his statements have been, Kiyotaka Tsurisaki seems like a guy with something genuinely interesting to say in his work. Like, so far as I can tell, his whole thesis as an artist is that in the Global North especially, people have shunted death and the dead to the periphery of our everyday lives so they don't have to think about them, and that precludes people from having any meaningful, honest relationship with death despite it being something that happens to all of us. And for whatever reason, his brain is wired in such a way as to see what's left after people stop being alive as artistically interesting and worthy of discussion, and by presenting the dead like this, he intends to confront his audience with that dissonance and short-circuit that cultural fear of death. Is he probably a pretty fucked up dude? Certainly. But it's a valuable perspective, and I'm not sure many other people could make a film so focused on the raw *labour* of preparing the dead for burial.

@traewilson5127

3 жыл бұрын

@@ConvincingPeople Yeah, as admirable as that goal is, you don't get that preoccupied with death without...how I put it...your mentality will inherently not fit in with the norm. When you've seen people vivisected and desecrated in the most grotesque ways and someone having to slap that mess back together again into something somewhat resembling a person's shape? Yeah, even watching that happen in the moment is gonna alter your mind considerably, let alone being the poor soul who does that day in and day out, as part of their 9 to 5 grind.

May! I know this video was hard for you to make, but the real talk about how a lot of shock films are actually very much propaganda is SO NECESSARY in the shock / horror / gore space, and so absent because... I guess people don't want their fun Actual People Blowing Up times spoiled by politics??? anyway thank you, A+ commentary

@merror-fx8cn

3 жыл бұрын

Also, I just want to reaffirm how much I love how you're willing to look at totally gory, shocking movies and appreciate them in the ways that a lot of us appreciate them, without turning off the part of your brain that's compassionate and political and trauma-informed! That is so rare in this space, and I really love your work for balancing those two things.

@thewinterland

3 жыл бұрын

m.error, I was about to say this too. I so appreciate May's willingness to delve into the politics of these films and not lose her humanity even after seeing this stuff. It's a different perspective we don't often get but is super important.

It's so amazing how ahead of the curve May was with her "Disturbing movies" series. She was making Iceberg videos long before they were a trend. I really love May's human approach to the matter

Imagine screening every single one of these to an audience, non-stop, and when the credits roll on the final film, simply say "The Aristocrats"

@lilo19951995

3 жыл бұрын

heh

@doofy3111

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@casperchristiansen2458

3 жыл бұрын

Literally true.

I used to visit the museum of death in Hollywood semi-regularly and they had a room just for screening Traces of Death on a loop. Do not recommend, heh

@mariabobia69

3 жыл бұрын

what is the museum of death

@daisyjoy242

3 жыл бұрын

@@mariabobia69 that's a good question

@ChicaneryBear

3 жыл бұрын

@@mariabobia69 clue is in the name, it's a museum of death

@mariabobia69

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChicaneryBear wow that was unnecessary. i got that much already, im asking more about it

@ringer1324

3 жыл бұрын

@@mariabobia69 it’s literally just a museum on Hollywood boulevard that tells the stories and has souvenirs of famous murders and deaths. It was made with the goal to make people happy to be alive.

I'm honestly really touched by your final message there. I'm having a really bad time right now and this brightened my day significantly. Thank you very much :) Spending all this time watching you and listening to you describe all this horrible shit was really uplifting. Thank you for your work. Keep making great videos and take good care of yourself.

Hey May, just as a little positive note, Ricardo Lopez' (Björk stalker) bomb letter did not actually kill anybody, the package was fortunately intercepted by the Metropolitan Police before it was delivered, so although the footage of his suicide is awful, and so is the whole case honestly, there's a silver lining in the fact that he didn't manage to hurt anybody else.

Thank you for your kind words at the end of this endurance test - it really is a hell of a laundry-list of awfulness, and it's good to remember the context we're all experiencing this stuff in. As for what to talk about in future: In terms of a palate-cleanser that's still in your wheelhouse, I think it'd be cool to see you talk about horror specifically aimed at young audiences, and how the different genre trappings are adapted for those limitations!

@Auggiekins

3 жыл бұрын

Oh that would be really interesting!!!

@PersonalZombie

3 жыл бұрын

PG horror is an untapped market for analysis! Like Bugsnax or Courage the Cowardly Dog!

update: it just kinda sounds like these people dont really like women. again

I feel like I have now experienced the disturbing movie iceberg without having to actually experience it. For that, I'm eternally grateful 🙏

Cat girl in a floral dress talking about disturbing movies is exactly what I needed today

this is the only “iceburg explained” video allowed to exist

@puffnisse

3 жыл бұрын

Clearly you haven't seen Wendigoon.

I have a lot of morbid curiosity for subjects like this and seek out people talking about them, but I'm actually very squeamish and sensitive to gore and suffering, so I avoid the actual things being discussed intensely. By the end of this iceberg I was feeling really conflicted about why I'm doing this to myself and what you said was so uplifting. Thanks for approaching such horrible subject matter like you do.

The thing to remember here is from that old Rules of the Internet thing. Rule #1 was always "There is always more and it is always worse."

I didn't understand that as a child my friends were showing me all this "end of iceberg" stuff. It gives context to a lot of things that I've had in my mind but have been too scared to seek out again. I am genuinely grateful for this video! Didn't expect to say that when talking about this horrible shit

It’s fascinating how many people dipped their toe in similar content when they were younger, myself included (the last 10min were just all horrible flashbacks). And similar to others, I became so numb to what I was watching and I realize now how much I was detaching from reality and myself. I’m also now highly emotional to those in pain, it’s so weird how many can relate and how it changed us. That being said, the internet really is a scary place and I’m glad that I just enjoy the first 2 tiers in the iceberg now, and that 3 can be too much for me now lol.

The "I don't wanna host this show no more" edit really sums up this series quite well doesn't it?

The end of this video made me feel emotional solidarity in pain, May, let’s all be active in making the world better 💜

Having watched Wendigoon's video before your series on the iceberg, I'm only now realizing how messed up a lot of these movies are, or rather what their existence implies about the people that made them. There's this fine line between art and pure unnecessary shock that so many of them cross. I really don't understand what the intention behind most of these are except for "Haha, so disgusting, horrible things on screen" and I really don't like that. I also find it funny how there are several movies on the iceberg that try to criticize the porn industry while creating something equally as exploitative.

@astridarideout1864

3 жыл бұрын

agreed! i actually like some of the upper tier stuff, cause it's actually trying to make you think, tell a story, etc. the lower levels of the iceberg are a different kind of disturbing, in that it's disturbing that people would want to make or watch them. i've got a fairly strong stomach, but i just don't see the point of gawking at shock stuff.

@jimbogreen7029

Жыл бұрын

I feel like these are the movies that the critics who came up with the term "torture porn" accused Saw and Hostel of being

I remember being a teenager and there were posts on Tumblr of people dying at the hands of cops with captions like "you need to watch this to truly understand what's going on" and then id watch it and just be a bit of a less for a bit. I got into horror stories on KZread and there was a channel that showed like people dying, and I remember seeing one video of a guy begging to not be murdered but was murdered anyways and I very vividly remember just going "hmm im a child.... maybe I shouldn't be watching all of this.... maybe this is going to negatively affect me later in life" and now I just have very numb reactions to any sort of death i hear about which isn't a great response? So yeah its fun to watch you talk about this stuff so I can be interested but never actually have to watch any of this. :D

As easy as it is to take a nihilistic approach to this sort of thing, I'm really glad that you took the time at the end to remind everyone that the worst of life and the worst of humanity should not form the basis for our interpretation of the entire human experience. As Sean from AJJ once said; "I have seen the darkest heart of humanity And I truly believe that we are capable of good as well."

@biggestastiest

2 жыл бұрын

i can tell you that you have excellent music taste

When you mentioned human urinal stuff my first reaction was "oh come on, I thought it was gonna be really bad, that's just normal gross stuff" and when that thought actually registered, I had to take a moment to regret how low I've gotten, at 23, thinking that human urinal stuff is "not that bad". I feel old and tired. I miss being a kid and not knowing about any of the shit I've found on the internet.

@legatelaurie

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, at least some of that is consensual. The fact it jumps so quickly from human toilet stuff to gore and murder though.. The pacing in this iceberg is just - big oof

@ConvincingPeople

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, the other stuff down there is very bad for other reasons, and May did say she preferred not to give the full picture of what was going on with some of these, so I suspect there are some additional nasty aspects to that one. That said, it's an oddly organised list to begin with, and it might be down there for, as she said, the weirdness factor of realising that you know the names of particular films in that genre.

@legatelaurie

3 жыл бұрын

@@ConvincingPeople For sure. I did read a description of Gusomilk and some of the others. Some do seem like just "normal" human toilet stuff which is the weird part. I get it's an fairly extreme fetish, but alongside mixtapes with actual murder it's obviously not great paced

@sudevsen

3 жыл бұрын

Eh,its just peepeepoopoo. New parents see this all the time

Next video should be like top ten movies that make you feel warm and cozy

Another “””Fun””” fact: fubar will just randomly cut to clips from Happy Tree Friends

@xandavidson1845

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao seems like a REALLY fucked up compilation with some random shitposts in it

@cinnamorolI.

2 жыл бұрын

and the episodes i’ve seen were spin fun knowing ya and the one where nutty goes to the dentist

@crystalbrawl8294

2 жыл бұрын

The guy made it as a compilation for his mates at the pub because they asked him to do a film of all of the most fucked up shit he’s seen

@ConvincingPeople

2 жыл бұрын

@@crystalbrawl8294 That… explains so much, really.

@rainesaysdie863

2 ай бұрын

That's actually really funny

it honestly shocked me how many of these were well known and circulated amongst my school and the 00s internet

@PsyChoCoyote

Жыл бұрын

Yup same here :/

Watching this series made me have a crazy flashback to an earlier time in my internet history. I'm old as hell by internet standards, so there was a time I was an admin on a message board. It was a very innocent message board where we mostly talked about fandoms we liked, and the population was almost entirely female identifying people. It was not Something Awful. But someone joined and started spam posting in every thread they could find this heinous NSFL stuff. And because this was in the long ago, it was all still images, but still. It was all eviscerated bodies and things no one needs to look at. As an admin who was present in the moment, it was my job to chase him everywhere he went and delete these images as fast as I could, but many other young woman such as myself at that time couldn't help but see the pictures before I could get to them. I'm a horror fan. I felt shaken, because I do know real violence and movie violence are not the same, but I felt equipped to deal with it better than some others did. I did not like the energy he created in the forums that day, because everyone felt vaguely unsafe and threatened for a couple of days, even though we insta-banned him. Because consent matters. Even when we're talking about who we expose to extreme, dark media. So I'm with you, May. Watch your step on the internet, for sure. Don't get scarred for life.

@astridarideout1864

3 жыл бұрын

yeah, fb had a class action suit against them by content moderators who got ptsd from all the constant exposure to the bottom-tier iceberg type stuff www.bbc.com/news/technology-52642633

i’m reminded of my visit to The Museum of Death here in LA. i went a few months after my sisters died in a sudden car accident and felt the need to face death and come to terms with it in my own weird way. there was lots of gorey pics, crime scene photos and such all over the walls. i think Traces of Death was playing on loop at the end of the exhibits so i sat down and watched some of that jazz for a bit kinda processing everything through the filter of grief. i have no idea where i was going with this, but i guess I can understand the morbid curiosity to seek this kinda thing out. (obviously not so much the gross exploitative mess)

I really appreciate what you did here. Your comments and interventions throughout, letting your audience know that it's okay to be uncomfortable or disgusted by these things, and that one should rather spend time participating in significant things that make us healthier and better versions of ourselves. I really wish more people had this outlook in life. You deserve a fun break and completely support you if you need to take some time. Also, regarding the ideas for new videos, I'm absolutely into the cryptids video idea!!! I would really enjoy knowing what your fave cryptid(s) is(are) and seeing your reactions and opinions to the several ones that exist throughout the world!

I think we all deserve milkshakes for going through this experience together. Tell me what you want from cook out

@homolone

3 жыл бұрын

can I have a strawberry milkshake please?

@biggestastiest

3 жыл бұрын

strawberry too!

@KaitoGillscale

3 жыл бұрын

I’m gonna double up on my lactose intolerant meds…get me some choccy milkshake plz.

@GALAxy_Witch11

3 жыл бұрын

Gurl gimme that watermelon milkshake yaaaasss

@aderyn7600

3 жыл бұрын

Strawberry milkshake too please

Learning about these movies was super depressing but I think hearing about them from a cute catgirl was kind of a best case scenario.

Thanks for adding the little uplifting note at the end of parts 2 & 3, it can be hard to remember that good things exist too and the fact that this stuff is out there doesn’t take away from that. Take care, May!

May, thank you for making this series. Your personality really adds so much to the experience of hearing this information. Other icebergs are informative but also less personal and in my opinion your added charm makes this format even more enjoyable. (Not to put down other creators' iceberg work, they still put in the research and make great content from it) I would love to see you cover even more icebergs once you find some of topics you genuinely like.

im really fascinated by the fact that im watching this as a 29 year old, realizing how much of this shit i knew about, first learned about, and havent Thought about, since i was like... in middle school?? like in the last video, i was all 'oh i remember girl in concrete, i read a manga about that... when i was 15!!' what was going on with the world in 2006. i hope kids these days arent as immersed in this type of thing now as we were back then.

The Bunny Game was not about a girl dressed as a bunny, she's a pr0st1tute that gets captured and tortured by a psycho truck driver and I remember HE put a bunny costume on in one scene and omg it was creepy af. That chick should have gotten actress of the DECADE lol

You had me dry heaving on the treadmill today. An old man looked at me like I was a freak. 10/10 best video

geez oh man i can tell this was really heavy to talk about. i admire what a positive and grounded view on life you have even after seeing so much of this shit, like you said its important not to fill your little cup up with all this horrific shit. take care and do something fun for yourself now that this is over, i hope you feel better and are doing alright in general may!!

Amazing video, I really needed this series. Having watched the Wendigoon videos at time I almost felt afraid or confused by his detachment from the subject material. No shade on him I am sure it was disturbing to him as well, but you really helped convey the actual pain and suffering it takes to even watch one of the films on this iceberg.

As someone who gets upset and emotionally destroyed by fictional horror movies…I couldn’t even step into this iceberg. Thanks for doing this so I definitely don’t have to

it feels weird to say "thank your sacrifice" but truly i do appreciate the deep dive and your careful and thoughtful summaries. this was a very fascinating series and fed the horrible little gremlin of morbid curiosity that lives in my head. im looking forward to binging through the rest of your channel . but most importantly i wish you all the best and hope you have a kind and gentle period of rest and recuperation after putting together this series. ❤ take care

I love this so much. Your input for all of these movies is so interesting and puts a lot of new perspective to things I've already seen. Thank you for watching most of these atrocities, it must have been emotionally exhausting.

I really liked your message at the end of this video, we often forget just how cruel the world can be and it’s people like you who show what others won’t that make the difference. I randomly found your channel and I’m really glad I have. Thank you for all that you do!

It was really fascinating to go down this rabbit-hole with you. Definitely brought back memories I had long forgotten, but interesting nonetheless. But I really appreciated your advice in the decompression section. Framing it as colors which influence our perception of the world but not define it is excellent. Really great advice. Thanks for the effort May, I hope you can relax with something less soul searing.

Fantastic series! As someone who was pretty familiar with all of these films, I actually learned a lot I didn’t know. Great work giving actual context and backstory instead of just a run down of content. Best video I’ve seen on this

I really appreciate how you presented everything with care while being as honest about the content as possible-as well as your sense of humor throughout as the topics got harder. Your closing was also wonderful, the send off that we can always live life better is an uplifting reminder after how heavy the topics/content of the films got. Thank you for this series.

This was such a great series! I'm glad that it got recommended to me. The way you discuss things is very entertaining, and I appreciate you providing so many details. I was recommended another series like this and it very quickly broke down into "I'll get demonetized so I'll just tell you its bad" which was- uninteresting.

"Spooky- ooky, ding-ding-dooky." Wise words from a true philosopher warrior. :D

Honestly thank you for mentioning the specific videos that come up in the mixtapes towards the end of this iceberg. I've watched both your series and Wendigoon's vid on this iceberg and sometimes I consider letting my curiosity get the better of me, but knowing some of those videos are in there, some of which I had the misfortune of seeing before, stops me. So just... thank you for helping me stay safe because at a certain point seeking this stuff out can become a type of self harm

@yourpalfred

2 жыл бұрын

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PLEASE take a good break or self-care day after doing all of these videos, May. By talking about these films without graphic visuals, you're saving so many people from unknowingly finding and watching them.

ty for talking about these!! whenever i hear things and ppl say “don’t watch these” it just makes me want to watch them even more, i’m glad i didn’t otherwise i would’ve been super traumatized.

i just found your channel today after getting reccomend the first part of the iceberg and I already love your content. that speech you gave at the end genuinely made me tear up. i loved every part of this iceberg and I'm gonna be bingeing the rest of your content, cant wait to see more from you :^) definitely subscribing!

I've been going through the ringer right now with a dying family member and when I tell you that your words at the end really helped a lot I mean it. They're probably gonna stick with me for a long time especially with my future work with the deceased. Thank you ❤️

I watched all 3 of these, with ads all the way through. Massive respect for keeping these monetizable somehow. I hope you're seeing that revenue cuz I appreciated this series ❤️

I was trying to listen to this while exercising and I had to stop moving at squirmfest because I physically could not hold my body up any more. Seriously, take care of yourself after this one, May. Edit: Wow, that ending was so beautiful! Thank you so much for making this, and for writing that amazing ending.

Been here since the beginning. Gotta say I’m so happy to exist in the same world as you. Your thoughts on creating and movies are pure gold.

Thank you May for what you said at the end. It made me cry. It’s weird that a video going over the worst depravity a person can inflict/endure contains something so profound. That’s why your channel is the best ❤️.

Honestly so much apreciation for going through all this horrible awful shit just for our entertainment. Your one of the best movie review channels on this site and u deserve so much more recognition considering how much u put yourself through for us

The intro: Why are we still here, just to suffer?

When it comes to Snuff R73 the people who made it did get arrested for distributing CP. Snuff R73 most likely is the name of the group and not the video as per the title card. So the CP video is most likely a different mixtape from the group.

@rosywhite7852

3 жыл бұрын

R 73 is basically a rip off of MDPOPE and the story is that the creator of MDPOPE was found to own a copy of Daisy Destruction which got him banned and his mix tapes shunned by the community.

i just found your channel and i’m obsessed with the way you speak you will DEFINITELY get so many subscribers keeping this up i’m shocked you only have 100k right now

Paused the video to say I discovered you and your channel with this series and I'm loving it, you are great! and I wish you the best, also that hug was unexpected and so warmed my heart.. Now I continue..

Small thing: It's the Toy-box tapes, not toolbox. That being said, this series is super fantastic and a really interesting analysis of everything. I'm very glad you did them, and I hope you can do something softer soon. Doing a series on Cryptids actually sounds super fun and I hope you can do something like that.

@railloki

3 жыл бұрын

I know the toy box audio exists, but there were actually a pair of serial killers called the toolbox killers, who recorded audio of their victims, including the clip mentioned in the video. The audio was played during their trial and some people in the courtroom left while it played, which you can find video of, but I was under the impression it was lost.

Hearing the description of Orozco the Embalmer reminds me of my uncle who was a coroner and mortician. He was always so upbeat but frustrated. My dad used to go on body pick ups with him and he used to do his thing, jump back in the hearse, and ask where my dad wanted to eat. My dad didn't want to eat.

@xtinenockels7398

Жыл бұрын

I was a mortician for almost 10 years; you get used to an awful lot, and it takes something to get to you after awhile. I used to eat lunch in the embalming room because the corpses were my quietest coworkers.

I am so blessed to have rediscovered you, and to see how thoughtful and responsible you are when covering these topics. It's a dark world out there, but you are colouring it a little brighter. 💖

A ghost or cryptid Iceberg sounds all kinds of fun! I thank you for having gone through this iceberg for us, it was truly a peek at how art can slide into Depravity until there is no longer any semblance of art left.

that part at the end really made me feel better about a lot going on right now. Thank you May, for being a source of entertainment and inspiration these last few years. I came out to my family as a trans woman about a week before your "the truth" video first released, and since then, I've seen you as a guide of sorts. Whenever i felt like giving up, or giving in, or like my existence as a woman wasn't worth the trouble, I could always see that you are power and beautiful, and how far you had come, and continue to go. It made me feel like I can go far, too. And I have. Thank you so much May, keep making such cool videos

I don't comment on videos often, but I went down the horrible shock video rabbit hole back when I was a teenager, and I remember having the same experience of surreal disconnect you described. While that definitely changed me as a person, the biggest thing it did was send me off to find happier media. I was hoping to find something meaningful and transgressive with a lot of the grimiest things I watched, and instead I found a lot of things that felt empty to me. Thank you for putting that experience into words better than I ever could, because I hope it'll save some poor idiot like me out there a lot of time. Also, thanks for adding films to the list in the previous video- you brought up a lot of things I was confused about not seeing on the list!

I'm so glad that you did this series. I'm fine with anyone not wanting to talk about, or host chats or reviews of some of the more horrible stuff talked about here, but things like this can't just be ignored or swept under the rug. That will just give those movies the chance to gain notoriety that they shouldn't have because they're so taboo. I also think they should be discussed so that people just getting into this kinda stuff know that some stuff is just trash, and not worth supporting, or potentially scarring or depressing yourself really bad.

Re worms, fish, human waste, etc being put into people... That seems very dangerous? Like it would in the very least put a person at risk for a bad infection.

@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick

2 жыл бұрын

I guarantee that quite a few of the people involved have gotten dangerously ill, if not dead.

@crystalbrawl8294

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think any of the people in these films are concerned about danger

"Genki Genki is basically fish *orn" Troy McClure has entered the chat.

Had to take a break and blare a Tarja era Nightwish album just to feel somewhat sane again. May, you are a goddess among humans for these three videos dissecting this... Thing of an iceberg. Props to you, girly. Props to you.

Thank you especially for the colors analogy you made at the end! I had trouble trying to express how our life experiences, while they can shape our own existence, are not the final words to existence at large. I might just end up word for word copying what you just said instead lol. Thanks for the video Nyx!~

I agree with people asking for an arthouse/avant-garde/experimental film iceberg sorta thing, especially if it relates to horror movies. Maybe you could even make your own and do a video on it if one doesn't already exist. A horror movie iceberg that goes from more well known stuff to more obscure stuff would be cool, but stuff that you think is actually worthwhile and interesting.

I watched a collection of Mondo films years ago at a documentary festival. Many people walked out. Props to you for even researching the lower levels. This has been a terrible time, but I'm grateful for your frankness and discretion. We can't turn our back on the dark. I would like if you would review the new movie Censor, about a censor of "video nasties" in Thatcher's England and how she deals with her childhood trauma. Something light.

I've watched your disturbing movie lists so many times this past year I've lost count. They're strangely therapeutic, even though I know it was hell for you. Thank you for the content. You're a huge reason I made it through 2020.

@Vampireprice

3 жыл бұрын

Please make a fun iceberg video that saves your soul.

I'm glad I went on this journey with you May. I'm not glad about the journey, but I'm glad that it was led by you.

Faces of Gore is the worst, just due to the narrators voice sounding like hes getting off on whats on the screen o-o Havent seen FoG since the very early 2000s and it still occupies a really f*cked up part of my brain. Some of this kinda stuff will stick with you for a lifetime unfortunately. ColdRaven is the only one strong enough to review Fetus Munchers 1+2. Hes a very brave soul

@DJDocsVideos

3 жыл бұрын

Watch it again, it breaks the spell.

@BloodylocksBathory

3 жыл бұрын

Oh gosh, someone else said it. The narration is the absolute worst, ranging from the shitty delivery to the dismissive descriptions, lol who is he to judge??

Your humor made this list so much more bearable. Thank you!

Just found you're channel watched the last two. Subscribed on part two and literally minutes later you upload pt 3? The Cat Ear Gawds hath spoken 🌟

so many regrets for watching and collecting tons of these movies years ago. so glad I found this amazing channel and can enjoy your content!

Buried in the Sand is pretty messed up. I actually found it at a damn Big Lots of all places years ago. you hit the nail on the head with your description of it. love the channel btw! my best friend turned me on to your videos and I love them! 🙏🏻

@Nauseousrap

2 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah big lots lol