My grandpa fought in the Pacific in WWII, and he met a few tribes, including the cannibals of Papua New Guinea. Always spoke well of them. He said that as long as you weren't an enemy or a member of the tribe that passed (depending on the tribe) you didn't have to worry about being eaten at all. Said they were usually pretty friendly, open to trade and obviously knew the jungles better than anyone. He also said they deserved to be treated better by outsiders.

@francisfischer7620

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. People so misunderstand those folk very different from themselves.

@Special_Tactics_Force_Unit

Жыл бұрын

@@francisfischer7620 they fucking eat people. Yes, they deserve to be judged. Harshly.

@ryanc473

Жыл бұрын

Wasn't it pretty much just a burial ritual for them? That's where kuru came from, ritualistic cannibalism of deceased family members infected with the prion, which then spread it to others (primarily the women and children, as they were the ones that would typically eat the most infectious tissues like the brain). And note, the cannibalism was seen as a good thing, a way of honoring the deceased, if I recall correctly. But again, then kuru became a thing and the practice all but dried up after the government outlawed it to contain the spread of the disease

@auntbee6993

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I studied mortuary cannibalism in undergrad and there are so many misconceptions about it. It's always stuck with me that at the same time that Europeans were condemning tribes for cannibalism, they were very much practicing it themselves.

@jcrow236

Жыл бұрын

My grandpa was also in the US navy as a gunner in the pacific by New Guinea.

Simon's amazement at people knowing the times of the tides is lovely.

@noth606

Жыл бұрын

It's not like they went to space or the moon in the 60s, oh wait...

@MAGGOT_VOMIT

Жыл бұрын

Hillery Clinton acts the same when she sees balloons. {0.o}

@dfuher968

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, u can look up tide schedules going back 100s of years 😁

@lijohnyoutube101

Жыл бұрын

I never knew that was a thing!

The rant on the British museum and the picture of the guys stuffing the tower of Pisa had me rolling 🤣

@tamarinmangold1414

Жыл бұрын

Me too! 🤣🤣🤣

When Michael Rockefeller went to New Guinea, he met a grad student in anthropology named Karl Heider. Dr. Heider was my professor when I was an anthropology major in the early 80s. He told us stories about Rockefeller while they were in New Guinea.

@drphosferrous

Жыл бұрын

What did he think happened to him?

@user-jj4ux9gj7d

Жыл бұрын

Tell stories about Michael Rockefeller. .🙏💕

@larsrons7937

Жыл бұрын

So your professor was lucky, while Rockefeller less so. - _"Heider, take care. Make sure you won't get eaten."_ - _"Don't worry, I won't. But maybe my travel companion will."_

The issue with the AI doing the "zoom and enhance" is that while the result can look amazing, it's the AI "hallucinating" details that are just not there. If the quality of a recording is too low, no amount of digital manipulation can restore information that doesn't exist.

@ETtheOG

Жыл бұрын

was going to comment something similar. When you use AI to enhance image resolution, you are basically saying we have a service that can put the image on a raster which then looks at each pixel, blows the image up in size, and put it on another raster (at least I think that would be what it does) and use AI technology to make an educated guess as to what the pixels should look like on each subsequent raster. The more you "increase" the resolution, the higher the chance the AI makes an educated guess that is wrong as to what the image should look like. The technology is there for very basic images that don't have much going on in them but want to make the image less grainy, its use to uncover whether or not an already grainy image is x or y is speculative at most and still limited to what prior examples the AI has in its database to refer to at the very least.

@tired1923

Жыл бұрын

was looking for a comment like this too. the best evidence that this technology is highly dubious is probably in a tweet where someone gives the AI a low resolution image of Obama and gets in return an HD image of a white man. AI can “imagine” a technically plausible high definition version of the image but it can’t create information that is just not there.

"Why couldn't you travel in with the photographer?" Because NatGeo photographers are HARDCORE. Seriously those people are built different. These are the people you call when you want video of the INSIDE of a VOLCANO in ANTARCTICA.

I slowed the video to .75x speed to make the enjoyment last longer and give my brain more time to process the info, but now Simon just sounds lightly drunk which makes his snide remarks 10x as hilarious

@carolyndavison6095

Жыл бұрын

I ad to slow it down also as this guy talks a mile a minute. I 'm a Southerner and speak Southern style so slowing him down enabled me to enjoy this and other videos.

@TheLithp

7 ай бұрын

@@carolyndavison6095 I put them on double speed to get through more of them.

The word "primitive" has a specific meaning in art that has nothing to do with cultural judgements or "noble savage" sentiments. "Primitive" means "first" or "formative" and it refers to art in its most minimalistic, formative state. It refers to the materials and techniques used, not the people who made it.

@jaysontryon2456

Жыл бұрын

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primitivism In the first paragraph of the Wikipedia article, it mentions the noble savage stereotype. Modern primitivism has moved away from it, but it is utterly disingenuous to claim it doesn't have roots in racist, stereotyped colonial thinking.

@nicoler.wunderink_2874

Жыл бұрын

@@jaysontryon2456 I agree but not bc of quoting Wikipedia. Keep your sources reliable

@gabrielhbyrne

Жыл бұрын

@@nicoler.wunderink_2874 are you suggesting Wikipedia is not reliable❓❓ If so, your breathtaking ignorance clearly indicates that your trusted sources must be the Inquirer and Fox news.

@brianlittleforest631

Жыл бұрын

How is a cited wikipedia article unreliable?

@ComedorDelrico

Жыл бұрын

"Primitive" is often used in describing Appalachian art and crafts, especially furniture. I never really did understand why.

the less scummy alternative to legacy admissions are the ones where it applies to the kids of staff, so a Janitor's or Meal Server's kids get automatically accepted or even scholarships in some.

@Uncle_Torgo

Жыл бұрын

I don't know where you got "legacy admissions" from, I've never heard of that. Most US universities with deep histories (at least used to) include a question about whether a parent had graduated in the past. That was just a tie breaker question, it didn't assure admission. I'd be interested to learn of any university where being the child of a staff member gets you admitted without more, let alone a free ride, if you barely graduated from high school.

@TheSameYellowToy

Жыл бұрын

​@@Uncle_Torgo Yeah, from what I've heard: a.) Legacy admissions aren't as common as people believe, even at Ivy League. A lot of times students at universities who are "legacy" students, are students whose parents know what looks good on an application to that school from personal experience so they know what kind of classes/extracurriculars/etc. to sign their kids up for, and/or are kids who (like my boyfriend, who was a legacy) were sent to "feeder schools". Feeder schools often have good reputations, and their teachers, counselors, and curriculums know how to tailor a child's education to be what prestigious universities want. If you're a feeder school student whose parents went to X university, you don't just get in on that alone, you do still have to make the grades and have a good application and whatnot to get in just like anybody else. While going to a feeder school does help give a bit of a leg up, it's still not a guaranteed acceptance. b.) University staff, even in lower-end jobs, often have a job perk of their kids being able to attend for low to no cost...if their kids get accepted, of course. My ex's mom worked in the cafeteria of a university and said that if my ex got applied and got in, he could attend for free because of that. Though while being an employee at the school (especially in teaching or admissions) might help a parent advise their kid on what the school is looking for in a student, I imagine any ethical university would make sure that the parent employee isn't allowed anywhere near the admissions process for their kid to avoid conflict of interest.

@jamigrey5554

Жыл бұрын

I attended a private college, just not ivy league. Our school would give the next generation of the family a huge discount on tuition and boarding

@captainpercy4369

10 ай бұрын

Honestly "legacy admissions" at the mostly larger, and often private universities isn't that much about nepotism as it is money. Yeah they want those certain kids in their school to get that sweet, sweet money. It likely means donations and contributions to the business, I mean school. Its all about money.

Bull sharks are renowned for swimming in fresh water rivers and even found in freshwater lakes if the way from it to the ocean is deep enough for them to swim in. They are able to regulate their salinity quite well. This coupled with a higher than average testosterone levels in bull sharks make a quite violent and scary shark indeed. So yes, sharks can be in rivers.

@jbrubin8274

Жыл бұрын

Facts, if it’s a delta attack, it’s definitely a bull.

@pullt

Жыл бұрын

What shark dominate salt water rivers?

@sc0ldingh0tc0ffee

Жыл бұрын

Bull sharks have been found in the great lakes.

@learningthebagpipe5234

Жыл бұрын

They are awesome, and cab switch between sea water and fresh water. They preferm murky and brackish water, and they are aggressive

@mrd1433

Жыл бұрын

They have been caught in the Mississippi up by ST. Louis Missouri.

Simon bro you are a legend 💯 never stop your random stories n ramblings 🤣🤣 I recommend practically all your KZread channels to all my friends and family. I support you and your writers fully in all endeavors 💪💪💪💪

@bobsyme3118

Жыл бұрын

Do you support Danny in his escape plan??

@decodingtheunknown2373

Жыл бұрын

Legend. Thank you.

@christinebenson518

Жыл бұрын

@@bobsyme3118 Maybe Danny can be paroled. Or Simon could start a take a writer leave a writer policy.

@taraized

Жыл бұрын

@@christinebenson518 lol!!

Keeping Simon on task must be like herding catnip addled felines.

@serephita

Жыл бұрын

catnip addled KITTENS. Not just cats.

@tyzilla358

Жыл бұрын

Keeping Simon on task is like fitting the entire universe in your pocket..........never gonna happen.

@SuperCutealien

Жыл бұрын

And just as amusing.

@JordanTracy93

Жыл бұрын

​@@serephita kittens don't feel the effects of catnip until they get older

@Gspawt76

11 ай бұрын

TangentBoi strikes again.

Between colonialism and missionaries, finding a Caucasian man living with them is not too surprising. Finding the exact missing person you're looking for in random camera footage? Let's just say, "Unlikely."

@nobbynoris

Жыл бұрын

Mate, that white guy wasn't Michael Rockefeller at all, that was Wally. Y'know, Where's Wally? That was where he was hiding out the whole time. It all makes sense - he got rid of his woolly hat because that would have just been a dead giveaway, but he needed to keep his glasses.

@WouldntULikeToKnow.

Жыл бұрын

@@nobbynoris Waldo* 😁

@YeeSoest

Жыл бұрын

The total population is 120k or so. I'm not gonna say it had to be him but say there's one white man in a full soccer stadium worth of black people and they all do a Routine of sorts...I'd have to think you'd find whitey, wouldn't you? May there be more than ONE white man there? Sure. But not many more...and not all white people look alike enough to say"could be any white guy" for this image. I'm not convinced at all that it was him but in such a small population, I don't think it's as unlikely as you appear to claim

@QBCPerdition

Жыл бұрын

@@YeeSoest But they weren't seeing the whole population. In your example, the stadium has an unknown number of white people and at any one time, a number of people are in line at concessions.. and the guy you're looking for might not even be there, in fact, many people have told you he stayed home.

@KS-PNW

Жыл бұрын

This was a very remote tribe though

The "sea vs river" question is probably best answered as "tidal estuary". Such an inlet or fjord would be ideal for New Guinea's mangrove forests as described early on in the video. Depending on the tidal flow, the water could be salty to brackish and would definitely support sharks. A very well-known (and very badly-misnamed) tidal estuary is the Hudson River of New York. Its waters are brackish and tide-influenced as far away as Troy, NY, over 150 miles north of New York Harbor.

@larsrons7937

Жыл бұрын

Sharks have been found at Manaus, that's thousands of kms up the Amazon river.

Loved the content, but the background music was too loud this time.

@amandapatrick827

Жыл бұрын

I can't determine if audio production has just gone by the wayside with the shift in media production/ consumption, if I'm 'becoming autistic', or I'm getting old... I'm not happy accepting any combination though lol

I would dearly love to see one of your writers take on the disappeared Prime Minister of Australia, Harold Holt, who disappeared while swimming, and then had a pool named after him.

1:45 - Chapter 1 - Who was Michael Rockefeller ? 6:50 - Chapter 2 - The asmat 14:15 - Chapter 3 - Michael rockefeller last voyage 20:00 - Chapter 4 - The drowning theory 21:05 - Chapter 5 - The "eaten by a wild animal" theory 23:20 - Chapter 6 - "Killed and eaten by the asmat" theory 34:25 - Chapter 7 - Other theories ? - Chapter 8 - - Chapter 9 - - Chapter 10 -

@makinka0cp

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I don't understand why Simon doesn't add time stamps.

@user-qd8kv1nz2z

Жыл бұрын

dont forget 10:39- Simon gets censored for saying something to honest about the catholic church

Simon’s tangents are the best…”I thought it was a river” “I did a video how they were getting a disease from eating their dead..why did I bring this up?”

14:57 was a HILARIOUS edit, Aspen! And your writing was on point, Katie! Simon, your tangents are as amusing as always!

@katywatson4940

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Aspen edited this one though 👍🏼

@HavianEla

Жыл бұрын

@@katywatson4940 My apologies! You’re the Meme Mistress, so my thoughts automatically went to you!

@katywatson4940

Жыл бұрын

@@HavianEla actually I’m the writer but never mind 😆

@HavianEla

Жыл бұрын

@@katywatson4940 Ack! I just goofed it all up, sorry Katy!

This is a long comment, but I swear it's interesting and relevant!! So, my dad visited exactly there in the early 1990's, sent on the dime of Mobil, who were funding his geology degree by getting him to map the kinds of rocks and flag possible oil deposits. There were heaps of helicopters, which enabled them to go over mountains to very, very remote areas. Now my dad is a tall man, standing at 6'4" to 6'5", and he has blue eyes (his ancestry is 100% Swedish and Norwegian) but dark, very tight wavy/ curly hair that grows into an afro if left to its own devices. His undertone is also kind of olive-y, so he also tans to a very deep, "nut brown". He is also a very gentle, soft spoken man, unless he's doing public speaking, but he's not at all one to yell. He had to return to NZ because he had caught dysentery and malaria at the same time, and as I was very young at the time, he made the decision after nearly dying to return so that he didnt catch something else. He had lost so much weight he was under 8 stone and looked like a living skeleton, with his very a deep tan and his head shaved because of the heat, and my mum walked by him and actually screamed when she realised it was him because he, in typical male fashion, han't told her how ill he was. That all aside, this is what he said about his interactions with the Asmat: - they were very impressed with him because he towered over them all, and because he showed deference to the leaders and brought gifts of food (he was advised to do so) and greeted them in their language (which is what his Asmat guide taught him to do) - they kept offering him "wives" (who knows if they were meant to be permanent ones) and were disappointed when he said he had one at home, until he showed everyone her picture, which apparently made the men nod and say was "a good choice wife" (he said that "good choice wife" was what the chief/one of the leaders who knew the most english said of his own wife, pointing to their home) - he saw no women in the group, only men, which the guide told him was tradition - they gave him spears, a mask, and a bowl that we thought was a hat for years until we finally had it appraised and learned it was actually a bowl into which males would ritually e*aculate to have the young boys drink to "become men" 😟 I can't remember anything else, but the main thing dad got from the translator/guide was that he said they seemed more deferential to him because he was so "large" (i.e. tall and muscular) which he said was not the common response, so infer from all that what u will. That aside, there are a couple of things to consider from the photo that we can look at that tell us whether or not it was Rockefeller or, at least, a caucasian male. - Michael had male pattern baldness. If you look at the darkness that deliniates the hairline, it is similar - there is white over his brow that is more likely to be the face paint that is seen on other men, but it does appear to project a little from his brow at the angle glasses would, with discolouration to the left of the facial profile/the usual profile outline, in a way that only glasses do, but we cannot see the thick frame which Michael's glasses had, and is also difficult to say if it is just a photo artefact. It could be also a combo of a few things; glasses plus paint, or just paint, with no glasses and a camera artefact from the film, or even something else altogether, like goggles bought or bartered for. Personally I think they are indeed ome form of glasses, after enhancing the photo with a modern AI tool for what its worth, (and I'm tempted to put my 10,000 word research on this I did for fun somewhere on the internet but I'm not sure where!!) but I cannot be certain if they were _Rockafeller's_ as we cannot be certain it is him or some other man with glasses, which is not unexpected as eye health was beginning to be accessable in the country by this time, even if it was uncommon still - the man is unlikely to be native Papuan and albino, as you would expect such a man to have blonde, not white, hair. Blonde hair in fijiians and some native papuan groups is actually an individually evolved trait, and not that uncommon, but seeing other albinos from these racial groups, to have skin that pale, the hair just wouldn't be that dark, which we can clearly see at his groin and head - likewise, though some men paint almost their entire body white, we know that's not the case due to how the sun is illustrating his body, reflecting as skin, not white clay, which is more matte. - the men around him seem to be wearing clothes, but he isn't. Could that be his european genetics making him less able to cool off in the heat due to absorbing too much sun? If you compare other men's skin lightness to him, there are no others which suggests he is not light due to interracial children, which, during colonial times, was often the result from white colonists capturing and assulting native women (a practice which I'd argue continues till today, but now the dub-con is due to power differences, not so much straight abductions, though thay does also still happen, in many pacific islands, and bride-capture between different islands in the pacific happens to this day). - lastly, I think we have to look at height. He seems to be about a head taller than the men around him, if you carefully take into account their different levels within the canoe, and the distance, angle etc, he still looks like most men come up to his nose or jaw. If the average height of a Papuan man in this tribe is 5'5" to 5'7", and Michael Rockefeller was no more than 5'9", it seems more realistic, but if he was well over 6 foot I think it definitely rules him out. Whilst I think that his hairline, body height, physique and shape suggest it _could_ be him, it could just as easily be any other caucasian man who jumped ship or abandoned colonial forces to live with them, as this was incredibly common, all over the pacific. For what it's worth, the seeming nature of Rockafeller seems respectful and I can imagine him integrating and avoiding death due to his sincere desire to cohabit, and this saving his life as true human emotions can pass language barriers, so I do think it's genuinely possible, but from a scale of chance, the likelihood it's him is not high, just from statistics, but due to the points above, we can neither rule the case that he integrated out either.

@justkittensbeingkittens5892

Жыл бұрын

This was definitely worth the read

@sophroniel

Жыл бұрын

@@justkittensbeingkittens5892 thank you haha

@trainskitsetc

Жыл бұрын

Did he use the bowl before knowing what it was? Maybe to store some nuts in while having a beer?

@thepartysjustbegun5557

Жыл бұрын

@@foreverbeloved8956 Aww C'mon you didn't want to write a ten page thesis in response? 😁

@TheToasterPirate

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the read.

There are several species of sharks capable of living in freshwater. The scariest one is the Bull Shark! In case someone else has mentioned this, I apologize, but in July of 1916 several young men were attacked in New Jersey. Regardless of what you call the section they were attacked in, the water ranges from salt, brackish to fresh. The Bull shark(s) in question traveled the system never mind the conditions. Bull sharks have been found in several river systems in the U.S.A., they have even been seen almost as far up the Mississippi river as Memphis Tennessee. They have also been found living in freshwater ponds after hurricane season caused flooding, which would have washed them into the freshwater pond and left them there. So, Simon, Sharks + Freshwater = real thing!

So glad I get to watch these as the video editing is awesome and so bang on. Thanks to the whole crew in the production, top rate

Regarding the dutch names, they are dutch translations of biblical and/or ancient names. In current times they are sort of still used, but shortened. My name is Paul, but my passport name says Paulus. I have two more names. My official initials are PHW. Nobody (including me) uses my full name. 'Cornelius' would probably be called 'Cor' by his friends and family, 'Hubertus' would be called 'Huub'.

@neva_nyx

Жыл бұрын

I knew someone named Cornelius. He's roughly 20 years old and goes by "Korn". Shortened names or nicknames are probably as old as naming each other.

Although he seems to forget it a couple of minutes later (lol), Simon does say that Michael's overturned catamaran was in the ocean, not a river. But they were "crossing the mouth of the river". The most important detail (also forgotten by Simon within minutes) is that they were at least 2 miles from shore. Swimming in the ocean is extremely difficult. I once had to be rescued by lifeguards and I was less than a quarter mile from shore. Even with a life jacket and the assistance of a trained life guard, it was hard going to get back to the beach. Keep in mind, Michael had been clinging to the side of an overturned boat all night, so his arms were likely very tired and he was sleep deprived. If he'd lost his jerry cans or a shark bit a chunk out of his leg, it's reasonable to think he drowned.

@pippishortstocking7913

10 ай бұрын

One Jerry can was found on the island.

No one ever asks who the guy in the footage could be. It always ends with "it's not Rockefeller". Well if it's not him then who the hell is it?!

@jameshagan2832

Жыл бұрын

It was me

@erraticonteuse

Жыл бұрын

Some native with albinism.

@Guy-cb1oh

Жыл бұрын

It was Simon.

@laurenmp7486

Жыл бұрын

@@erraticonteuse skin is too dark to be an albino, also albinos have white blonde hair.

@JM-ij1om

Жыл бұрын

@@laurenmp7486 there's another video where the glasses are more visible on him. He's definitely a white man.

I think that was him on the canoe, that beard has a very similar jaw line as the photo where they are running in a circle around him. That was pure joy on his face

Interesting note. When I was a child, I spent a lot of time at my grandmother’s house in Arkadelphia, AR. In the den (a sort of sitting room with fireplace) there were big windows, and the lower sills were of very nice polished white granite. The rest of the house was plain brick, and not at all rich or fancy. As an adult, after grandmother passed away, I asked my dad about those sills. Turns out my grandfather, a bricklayer like my dad, had helped build a “house” for Winthrop Rockefeller up near Petit Jean, and was allowed to keep some granite off-cuts. When he built a new house for his wife, he used those as window sills. Must’ve been the buildings at Winrock Farms he helped construct; it was constructed in 1953 or 1954, which would be about right. And if you look at pictures of the place today, the main building uses this white granite as the decorative top-courses throughout. True story.

@JamesAnderson-dp1dt

Жыл бұрын

Btw, Winthrop was brother to Nelson, apparently, and thus Michael’s uncle.

Simon: idk, I don't think sharks live in rivers Me: "miles to shore," Simon. This was no mere creek. And Michael was worried he'd be "washed out further to sea." Meaning there was a sea somewhere close.

@ComedorDelrico

Жыл бұрын

He also says that they were in the ocean. But they were crossing the mouth of a river. But they were also miles from shore. It's a bit confusing.

Amazing how the British Museum gets hate, but not the Turkish Archaeological Museum, Pergamon Museum in Berlin, and others.

Listening to this video I thought the phrase "Eat the Rich" several times

Just plain interesting. And Simon's telling of the story is so enjoyably entertaining. Thank you sir.

Seriously, please start using annotations for links to referenced videos/channels as they are mentioned throughout the video, otherwise great work and I always love your channels Simon :)

As grainy as that photo is, it does indeed resemble Micheal. I like to think that he chose to live with them. The other pic of him where he is surrounded by the tribesman is such a good photo. He looks so happy, so enthralled...I hate to think that he was murdered a short while later by the same people (assuming it was the Onatsej in the pic, I can't recall now.)

The tribe that got the disease from the prions was from PNG too Simon. I think now many would not want to talk about it as they are Christian and their current religious practices are very different. I'm from Oz but PNG is just above us and we have quite a bit of history. Maybe you could do an episode on the Kokoda trail and the fuzzy wuzzy angels??? 💓

@francisfischer7620

Жыл бұрын

Yes!!

@DanniSoRude

Жыл бұрын

"Fuzzy wuzzy angels"???? I'm thoroughly intrigued

@shellshell942

Жыл бұрын

@@DanniSoRude It's a nickname given to the PNG locals from WW2 that would rescue injured soldiers from insane circumstances that ONLY they could and did. The footage showing them carrying the men out of the jungle is crazy.

@DanniSoRude

Жыл бұрын

@@shellshell942 most definitely wanna see this!

I have worked with many Dutch people in my life and I'm living close to the German-Dutch border. I can confirm, these old-fashioned, latin-esque names like Cornelius, Hubertus or Augustus are not uncommon. But still, more common Dutch names are simple names like Jan, Jacob or Geert. Edit: I also met a Wim before , it's basically their shorthand for Willem/William

My friend is a missionary to PNG and just a few years ago, he was visiting a tribe way back in the jungle and was offered to see a man's "pig" which was a 6 year old boy kidnapped from a neighboring tribe.

2:30 Well yeah, by the time Standard Oil was broken up in 1911 JDR and his companies would have had a net worth of over $1T in 2022 dollars had he not given most of it away. He was still a billionaire after all that in 1916 dollars (first billionaire). His kids still inherited the equivalent of multiple billions. When he died in 1937 despite trust-busting gov't lawsuits and giveaways his wealth was still 1.5% of the entire US GDP (today that would be the same as having a net worth of $315B, Musk still has a ways to go before that is surpassed). I think Biographics already did a JDR episode.

@absollum

Жыл бұрын

He also got richer when they broke the company up because he then had stock in all of them.

@erraticonteuse

Жыл бұрын

@@absollum Came here to say this. They broke up the companies, but they just made the billionaires into trillionaires.

@99EKjohn

Жыл бұрын

​@@erraticonteuse another note, standard oil only had approximately 60 percent market share before the breakup, down from a high of about 90 during the Mexican American war. The companies formed from standard oils breakup ended up immediately having about 90 percent market share again. Unintended consequences have to be considered before getting government involved.

Our good family friend was close to Michael while they were in the Army. Michael served about 6 months, our friend served 4 years. He told us Michael was one of the best humans he had ever met. He believed that if Michael came into his fortune, he would change the world for the best.

@oneoflokis

Жыл бұрын

Then whatever his fate, it's a pity, isn't it?! 😏

@thepartysjustbegun5557

Жыл бұрын

Wow not the review I'd expect of a Rockefeller I'll tell you 🙃

I absolutely love your videos Simon but I’m constantly blown away about how much stuff you do not know.

The Coast Guard will tell you this, in the case of a capsizing STAY WITH THE BOAT! Forest Rangers will tell you this, if you get lost and do not know where you are SIT DOWN IN A VISIBLE PLACE AND WAIT THERE! Don't swim for shore, they found the other guy! Don't keep walking if you do not know where you are going! You will end up hopelessly lost, and you can die of exposure and dehydration in the inside of three days! Just sit tight! Someone will find you!

These stories would be very short if Simon never kept side tracking lol

@Jerseydoosh

Жыл бұрын

See, now I have to re-watch this and time just the story parts just to find out the difference.

@makinka0cp

Жыл бұрын

@@Jerseydoosh please, let us know

@miketobias1821

Жыл бұрын

I 109% agree. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

Omg Simon’s commentary on this episode is on fire! I’m in stitches

Absolutely LOVE the upbeat tangent music. Great touch, Jen 😄

The mystery of what happened to Michael Rockefeller will never be solved without remains for DNA testing. If he was living with the tribe he would have been seen by the priest. Excellent episode it covered multiple theories and was well written by Katy.

Last time I was this early he was still alive

@duncancurtis5971

Жыл бұрын

He was stewed with peppers spuds and a side of rocket salad 🥗 😋

Do a video on the Jameson whiskey heir who bought a girl to be killed and eaten by cannibals as he watched so he could make watercolor sketches please.

@aphishoutofwater7019

Жыл бұрын

That's horrific

@comettamer

Жыл бұрын

Ok, yeah that definitely needs to be an episode of either this or the Casual Criminalist.

@erraticonteuse

Жыл бұрын

@@comettamer Be more of an Into the Shadows episode, because I don't think it was technically a crime. It was just imperialist bullshit

@sciencenate

Жыл бұрын

Very cool

@IanAlcorn

Жыл бұрын

That was partly debunked. He didn't buy a slave to be killed and eaten, but he did witness the tribe do it to a girl.

The jokes and manic energy were brilliantly on point in this one Simon, you need to get woken up early more often ;)

A lot of Papuans did convert to Christianity, and so there is also a desire to not be thought of as "those people who eat people" for that and other reasons. This makes it harder to research locally too. Which I can understand.

Some sharks can travel up rivers. Though I don’t know how common it is. I imagine not very. I live along the Mississippi River in the middle of the US, not near the coast, and I have heard stories of bull sharks getting up near here before. Also, my final project in Biochemistry in college was on prions. I agree, they’re terrifying.

@stonedfacekilla

Жыл бұрын

Very common actually. Bull sharks have been caught in lakes around Dallas tx.

Awesome video! It's a very interesting case. I am not sure which theory I think is the best fit, but I certainly think he either drowned or was killed. Talk about a guy out of his element. Thank you Simon, Katy, and the crew (editor's name is behind the icon at the end so I couldn't see it) for the video.

Terrific episode. I vaguely remember his disappearance when I was young. Fascinating history.

I guess it gave a whole new meaning to Oysters Rockefeller when they got to his nads.

@emmaofdragons2720

Жыл бұрын

OMG.... 😅🤣😂🤣😅🤣🤣 Today's GRIN , for sure !! Loooool..... still laughing...

File this one under "What Could Possibly Go Wrong?"

I love Simon's rants and tangents, they are a solid 50% of my enjoyment of watching besides the wonderful topics. Please keep being your self.

@larsrons7937

Жыл бұрын

Really? That sounds like a morbid joke.

Simon, Simon you had me rolls with laughter. I do so enjoy your narrations with the tangents.

As a Dutch person called Cornelis, I can confirm we all have great names

"why am I on so many tangents" I was expecting a "Stick to the script, fact boy."

I LOVE your British Museum: collection of other people's stuff video!

Interestingly, his Father, Nelson Rockefeller suffered a somewhat similar fate. He had a heart attack and died while being eaten by a personal secretary/aide.

@francisfischer7620

Жыл бұрын

Very funny.

@erraticonteuse

Жыл бұрын

There was a French president who died of the same fate. They said of him "He dreamed of being Caesar, but instead he was Pompey." That's funny when you know that the French spelling "Pompé" means "blown".

Slightly worried that after talking about cannibalism for 20 minutes, now Simon is feeling hungry! Run Danny run!!! Remember, you don't have to outrun Simon, you only have to run faster than Sam!

@ComedorDelrico

Жыл бұрын

Yes, that was hilarious. Simon: *talks about cannibalism for 20 minutes* "I'm quite hungry, I can't wait to have my breakfast!"

I think Katie is underestimating just how big the sea is. People have gone missing in tall grasslands. To say that his body would definitely have shown up after getting eaten by a croc is ridiculous. For the killing version: why then and there? He had been there for months, was known by those people, other explorers and missionaries were also there and also white. It just seems so random. Appeasing the spirits is of paramount importance, why wait two years to happen upon a whiteman washed up in the tide?

@ComedorDelrico

Жыл бұрын

I agree about the ocean. A lot of drowned people have never turned up. There's no reason to think his body would've ended up on the island. It could've just as easily been swept out to sea. I also feel that Simon is vastly underestimating how difficult it is to swim in the ocean. It's extremely strenuous. He was miles from shore. Even with jerry cans for flotation, I'm not sure I could swim for miles in still water, even if I was fully rested. Michael was fighting the ocean waves and he'd been clinging to the side of a boat all night, so his muscles would've been extremely fatigued. As for why they wouldn't have eaten him earlier, it's likely because he was always with the other tribe. To kill him, they would've had to also killed or fought off all the other tribe members he was with. When they came across him on the beach, alone, exhausted, he would've been easy to overpower.

@ Decoding the Unknown, Simon, you are awesome! I hate that I just found this show lol. I had so much fun listening to you and haven't laughed this much since I can't remember when! Thank you for making my night so enjoyable ❤

The British museum jokes are so funny and true hahahaha

America doesn’t really have a “posh” accent anymore. The closest thing we have to a posh accent is the old Hollywood accent that Carrie Fisher had in the original Star Wars trilogy, but no one talks that way anymore. These days accents are mostly regional and you can sound more “proper” by not using slang words but that’s about it.

@allisonbergh4429

Жыл бұрын

I think the closest we have to “posh” would be the east coast Ivy League thing as immortalized by Thurston Howell III on Gilligan’s Island

@LaurieAnnCurry

11 ай бұрын

Boston Brahmin is pretty close

My family was on a tour of remote mission outposts in the West Papua in very early ‘90s.. villages up mountains accessible only by aircraft.. met a few tribes connected to a former culture of cannibalism and former cannibals themselves.. at age 11 it was mind blowing

What a way to start my Tuesday morning chur Simon bruv 🤙

So the author went deep into a place where nobody will ever check his work and was told exactly what will sell the most books?

@TheUglyFish

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, i don't understand why people put so much faith in this guys (and the priests) account. It's all word of mouth.

@StoneInMySandal

Жыл бұрын

You probably think you’re being skeptical huh?

I’m sure there are wonderful people in the Azhmat tribe. And, I agree that referring to them as primitive is wrong. They are the height of fashion, elegant society, and revolutionary culinary delights

Simon! My guy... Lol! THIS is why I love all your channels! You are so down to earth, and it seems you really enjoy what you do/the people you work with! It shows in the way the copy is read, the graphics are done and the humour is just top-notch! Um... as for us Americans and how we would be "Posh"? The word would be Bourgeois (pronounced "BooJee" - don't ask! Lol!) and I live here in the US and I don't even know how it would sound! 😂 Like Thurston Howell, III I guess? From Gilligan's Island? 🤷‍♂ Lmao! Oh, man... you and the channels you have are awesome! Tell Katy she has a fan and all of you keep up the good work! Peace & Long Life, bruv! 🖖😎

@emmas3367

Жыл бұрын

Btw bourgeois is actually the full word (pronounced boor-zhwa) that the slang term bougie (boo-zhi) comes from. It comes from the word referring to the middle/upper middle class (bourgeoisie). These terms were popularized during the French Revolution to describe the ruling class (in contrast to the proletariat). So the pronunciation isn’t actually that surprising for the shortened slang term if you consider it’s French roots. The more you know!

@cotati76

Жыл бұрын

@@emmas3367 it’s always driven me nuts when people say boo-zhee.

@emmas3367

Жыл бұрын

@@cotati76 why? I find the evolution of language super interesting, and the fact that we can trace the origin of our slang terms is cool to me. Language is always evolving, and I find that interesting instead of annoying!

@tranzphaziktorpedo

Жыл бұрын

@@emmas3367 I am aware of the term and its roots. 🤨 Humor (n.) the quality of being amusing or comic, especially as expressed in literature or speech. The more you laugh...

@emmas3367

Жыл бұрын

@@tranzphaziktorpedo ??? I wasn’t trying to offend you lol. I was just sharing a fact that I found interesting. It seems to me like you’re the one here taking things a little too seriously…

"That's the spirit!" Jenny, I love you 😄😄😄

enjoyed, thank you

I don’t really know, but part of me hopes that he joined the local people and lived a happy life there with them protecting him, and him working hard as part of the village. It’s definitely the happy ending I like! Lol

I'm only a couple of minutes in and this episode is already single-handedly saving my monday...

interesting fact: there are sharks that can change from fresh water to salt water and vice versa. Bull Sharks will swim in the area of mobile bay in alabama for a few days while slowly adjusting to the fresh water content of the Mobile river and then swim up stream to where the Mobile river meets the Tennessee-Tombigbee Waterway and up the Tennessee River. We have had shark attacks, although rare, as far as Muscle Shoals though none fatal. They also do so in South America and up other rivers including the Mississippi River.

You need to edit like this All the time. Was GREAT

Wait, why wouldn't a shark eat an entire body? There are PLENTY of examples of shark attack victims where no parts of them are found.

Hello Simon and everyone. How's your Monday going?

Even Google knows that the metric system is better than imperial, and they're an American company...

Hello from KZread. I rate you, the researchers, and writers a 10 out of 10.

How does Simon get his day started? With a story about cannibalism before enjoying a bowl of Magic Spoon's latest flavor: Soylent Green.

@LaurieAnnCurry

11 ай бұрын

A flavor fully endorsed by Frazer Heston……

I think it’s possible that he lived with them for a while and then died from illness. He probably was eaten but not initially.

Good video 👍

I'm John Titor, and last time I was this early, Simon had done his first RAID ad. oh wait I'm early for that as well? oh you wait its a GLORIOUS ad break

This is one of the very few conspiracies that I am torn on. I feel this video left a lot of the story unsaid. Though the mystery still remains.

Katy Watson? THE Katy Watson? Wow. Smilesandsmiles. I AM privileged to listen to this script! Thanx 😊

Simon this episode had me rolling on the floor laughing... Definitely not laughing at the poor gentleman that lost his life but how you made light of certain things great episode can't wait for the next.

For a posh mid-century American accent, watch almost any Audrey Hepburn movie. They used to teach that accent at Harvard and Yale. It’s almost certainly the way, Michael Rockefeller spoke.

"My dude, they shot five people and the Asmat are pissed off." Not an exact quote, but that was hilarious.

Bull sharks have been spotted as far north as St Louis. After swimming from the gulf of mexico up the Mississippi river.

@armygirl85fuckhitler74

Жыл бұрын

I'm in St. Louis and HATE this fact!!! They've actually been seen in Alton north of St. Louis too!!!

@timbrwolf1121

Жыл бұрын

@@armygirl85fuckhitler74 It's a good thing we don't swim in the Mississippi anyway 😅

I thought of bull sharks as soon as I heard the word"mangroves". I also thought of crocodiles stowing their meal under water to consume at their leisure. Cannabals on land? Whatever species, I think it's likely he met a horrible end.

"I'd never ever ever ever call my kid Hubertus but uhh....I like it" 👌

It would be nice to see a side-by-side comparison of the photo of Michael Rockefeller kneeling and the photo of the guy who might have been Michael.

Hubertus and Cornelius are both old names and aren't used in The Netherlands anymore either unless you're named after a great-great-grandfather or some such (and even then it would be your birth name on your passport, not what people actually call you). The modern equivalents would be Bert for Hubertus and Cor or possibly Nelis for Cornelis. Wim of course is short for Willem (anglicized as William) made famous by the likes of Willem of Orange.

Cornelius Whistler sounds pretty badass though, Simon. 😎

If he jumped in the water, saying "I think I can make it" my money is on him being wrong, & not having reached the island, rather than anything else. Sharks, perchance..? They would take a tired, floundering human if the circumstances allowed. Edit: saltwater crocodiles look a much better bet, and that stock footage showing a group together shows how enough of a body could disappear quite easily.

I am only 3:31 in......but i can tell that, after attempting (pretty hard) to listen to other KZread-ers/podcasters go on and discuss this story, i am *really* (and finally) going to enjoy SOMEones' version of it. It's the mixture of history&humor, perfectly balanced. 🤘ThAnKs🤘& 🍻ChEeRs🍻

simon is particularly sassy this episode 😭 love it

US: Wouldn't the sharks or crocodiles have eaten him whole? Simon: No, I think they would have spit that part out. Ba dump-dump.

Jen, you outdid yourself on this one!! Brava!

Primitive is by no means an insult; it refers to underdeveloped and ancient civilizations.